Water Cooling Estimator Spreadsheet

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11-25-2009, 12:44 PM
Vapor

Please remove my testing from your spreadsheet. I vehemently disagree with your methods of estimation and as such, I would prefer my data to not be included with your estimator.

I feel my data can stand on its own....if someone wants to know how a block scales with flow, my data says it plainly with no mathematical BS. If you want to know how blocks compare, my data says it plainly with no mathematical BS.
11-25-2009, 01:41 PM
Hondacity

its on a second spreadsheet and not on the original one...but anyways..thanks andreaBZ

yeah...different cpu...hmmm i'll check it out and see the numbers..thanks again AndreaBZ
11-25-2009, 04:34 PM
CedricFP

This spreadsheet is quite useful and fun to play around with. Though I wouldn't make purchasing decisions off it alone.
11-27-2009, 01:38 PM
AndreaBZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondacity

its on a second spreadsheet and not on the original one...but anyways..thanks andreaBZ

yeah...different cpu...hmmm i'll check it out and see the numbers..thanks again AndreaBZ

:up:
12-05-2009, 05:26 AM
AndreaBZ

Update Fans Spreadsheet ...... Noctua (140 mm ) NF-P14 FLX

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12-19-2009, 10:45 AM
AndreaBZ

Spreadsheet with many Water Block " BIG "
Version 1.0 2010 ......... Happy new year :D

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Cpu block Marked (MLL) = Martin's Liquid Lab

- Intel Core Q6600 @3600 1,47V

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Cpu block Marked (HES) = HESmelaugh

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=224976

- Intel Core i7 920 @ 3.7GHz, 1.28V

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Cpu block Marked (**) = Other sources from the Web

- Intel Core i7

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Cpu block Marked (Average) = Average between the marked (HES) WBs and the marked (* *) WBs

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Alphacool Yellowstone ( HES)
Aqua Computers XT D.I. ( MLL)
Aqua Computers XT D.I. ( HES)
Danger Den MC-TDX ( MLL)
Danger Den TDX ( MLL)
D-Tek Fuzion V1 Stock ( MLL)
D-Tek Fuzion V2 Stock ( MLL)
D-Tek Fuzion V2 Stock ( HES)
EK Supreme ( MLL)
EK Supreme ( HES)
EK Supreme (**)
EK Supreme (Average)
EK Supreme LT ( HES)
EK Supreme LT (**)
EK Supreme LT (Average)
Enzotech Luna REV.A ( HES)
Enzotech Luna REV.A (**)
Enzotech Luna REV.A (Average)
Enzotech Sapphire Rev.A ( MLL)
Enzotech Sapphire Rev.A ( HES)
Enzotech Sapphire Rev.A (**)
Enzotech Sapphire Rev.A (Average)
Koolance CPU 350 ( HES)
Koolance CPU 350 (**)
Koolance CPU 350 (Average)
OCZ Hidroflow ( MLL)
OCZ Hidroflow ( HES)
Swiftech Apogee GT ( MLL)
Swiftech Apogee GTZ ( MLL)
Swiftech Apogee GTZ ( HES)
Swiftech Apogee GTZ (**)
Swiftech Apogee GTZ (Average)
Swiftech Apogee XT (**)
Thermalright XWB-01 ( MLL)
Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 ( HES)
Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 (**)
Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 (Average)
Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 LC ( HES)
Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 LC (**)
Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 LC (Average)
XSPC Delta CPU V3 ( MLL)
XSPC Delta CPU V3 ( HES)
Ybris ACS (**)
Ybris Eclipse ( HES)

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(Thanks to Martin and HESmelaugh that kindly have sent me the detailed data of their tests.)

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This section has been improved.

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In this section it is possible now light RPM and CFM ! :cool:produced by the fans.
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V.01 2010 ... Happy new year ... Beta test Download :
http://www.coolingtechnique.com/down...andrea-22.html

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01-10-2010, 05:29 PM
AndreaBZ

Spreadsheet update
Version 01.02 2010 .......

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News:

it is possible to select the unities of measure now

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renewed graphics

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01-29-2010, 05:23 PM
GunterFalstaff

is there a way for me to modify this to allow more than 2 radiators? otherwise, great work :)
03-11-2010, 04:40 AM
AndreaBZ

UPDATE
V.03.2010

Adds a new laboratory pomp(24 volts) tested by
oolingtechnique lab (CTL)
http://www.coolingtechnique.com/rece...anso-pd31.html

Sanso PD 31

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Improved the mathematical section (the spreadsheet now manages the equations of 3°)..... more precise

Download in the first page

:D
03-14-2010, 03:09 PM
AndreaBZ

Update V.03.04 2010
I have corrected an error of formulation of the spreadsheet.
The preceding version is wrong!
Sorry but the spreadsheet it becomes complicated more and more.:D
05-22-2010, 12:24 PM
AndreaBZ

[Update V.05.2 2010

NEWS :
Radiators
- Aquacomputer Airplex Revolution 420-360
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- Coolance CU1029 H
- Coolance CU1020 V
- EK CoolStream XT 360

WB
- Koolance CPU 360
- EK Supreme High Flow

Reservoire
-EK-Multioption 400

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Nuovo sistema di selezione componenti :
New system of selection component:

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05-28-2010, 10:13 AM
mav2000

This is just awesome...super stuff and thanks a lot. Helped me to make my decision.

Edit: Is it possible to check with AP18's in the fans...
07-27-2010, 03:26 PM
AndreaBZ

Update V.06.01 2010

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07-27-2010, 03:47 PM
Martinm210

Thanks for the estimator!
I always like tools..:D
07-27-2010, 11:42 PM
Hondacity

wooot new blocks....

keep updating this :D

thanks Andrea
07-29-2010, 12:52 PM
Ketzer7

Thanks for the update Andrea.

Small question:

Would it be possible to update your spreadsheet to include calculations for up to two CPU blocks per loop/system, and also allow up to 4 GPU blocks per loop? Right now it seems to only allow one CPU block and two GPU blocks per loop. Unless there is a way to work around this I haven't seen?

Martin's old spreadsheet was pretty handy in this manner because it allows for two CPUs and up to 3 GPU blocks. With things like the SR-2 and Quad SLI out there now, I think it would be valuable to make loop estimations that include 2 CPUs and up to 4 GPUs. I don't know if it's possible, but it would also be cool to have serial vs. parallel flow calculations for the GPU blocks. What do you think?

Thanks.
02-20-2011, 11:49 AM
AndreaBZ

:welcome:
Watercooling Spreadsheet update !

Versione : 2011 V.01 (beta test)

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RPM > CFM Fans selected

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RPM > Decibell Fans selected

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If the noise of a fan is 39 db
the noise of 3 fan is :
Total decibell = 10*LOG 10(N°fans *(10^(decibell single fan/10))
Total decibell = 10*LOG 10(3*(10^(39/10)) = 43,7 db

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05-04-2011, 05:57 PM
AndreaBZ

:welcome:

Watercooling Spreadsheet update !
V.08 2011

Download in the first page

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06-19-2011, 05:34 AM
AndreaBZ

The latest version of the spreadsheet contains an error:
The Water Block Tested by CoolingTechnique Lab (CTL) give incorrect results.
For this reason I decided to radically revise the formulas for transposition
between tests on CPU and tests on thermal simulation (CTL)

Difference of temperature level between Matins Liquid Lab (MLL) - (i7 2600 k @4,8 ghz 1,392 vcore)
and CoolingTechnique Lab (CTL) - thermal simulation at 300 Watts :

The ∆ T (difference between CPU temperature and water temperature) of MLL is given by:
[C°/W (thermal resistance) IHS CPU + C°/W TIM + C°/W Water Block] * Watts.

The ∆ T (difference between thermal simulation temperature and water temperature) of CTL is given by:
[C°/W (thermal resistance) thermal simulation + C°/W TIM + C°/W Water Block] * Watts.

The TIM C°/W and The Water Block C°/W MLL and CTL are the same.

I calculated that the difference between the thermal resistance CPU IHS MLL
and the thermal resistance thermal simulation CTL is : ∆ C°/W = 0,14067006

Then the difference between ∆ T MLL and ∆ T CTL to 100 watt is : 14,06 C°
to 197 Watts is : 27,712 C° (1,406 C° x Watts) !

In addition to this ,after the following test CoolingTechnique Lab (CTL) on fans in PUSH PULL
I have reviewed the spreadsheet formula

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delta T (normal Fans) = 1.3 x delta T push pull at 500 RPM
to go down to 2700 RPM : delta (normal Fans) = 1 x delta T Pusch pull Equal performance

Radiators:
to simplify the abbreviations of radiators:
3 x 120 = Radiator with 3 120mm fans
2 x 120 = Radiator with 2 120mm fans
1 x 120 = Radiator with 1 120mm fans
3 x 140 = Radiator with 3 140mm fans
3 x 140/120 = Radiator with 3 120mm or 140mm fans
etc.

The radiators marked with * are extrapolated
with the simple formula = 3x120 radiator = ( 2x120 radiator + 1x120 radiator)
not the highest accuracy

A big update coming soon
06-22-2011, 05:23 PM
AndreaBZ

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07-03-2011, 06:55 AM
AndreaBZ

another little update ..... V.34 20011
:welcome:

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