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11-06-2008, 01:11 AM
C-N

Quote:

Originally Posted by namegt

nice "C-N"
DFI UT P45 T2RS
your settings for 600fsb?

Post 51 on the last page http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&postcount=51

Quote:

Originally Posted by namegt

DFI Lanparty UT P45-T2RS 10/28 BIOS

http://namegt.tistory.com/attachment...13e76597BU.zip

Cool, where did that come from & have you got any change log?

Quote:

Originally Posted by namegt

DFI UT P45 T2RS my first post

Unstable and difficult to raise the BIOS FSB

Looks like you are doing fine so far.

Its not so free to run like the P35 but the power is in there it just takes time & tweaking to squeeze it out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by politenessman

got my q9550 e0 today and stoked it up in the ut p45. absolute nightmare. unstable even at default, random power downs, bsod, black screens. checked cpu in another mainboard and it (q9550) is fine. checked my e8500 e0 in the p45 and it (lp ut p45) was fine. looks like these boards may ( or my board, at least) have issues with 45nm quads, or 45nm quad e0. its in the machine now and this is the third time i am trying to post this, it keeps on bsod'ing or random warm restarting. i ahve been over it and over it since 4pm. its about 2:40am now.
tried 4 types of ram, another psu, still ng. anybody else have a 45nm quad on this board?

I cant believe it wont even run at stock there must be something very wrong there. My guess would be GTL's & VTT but you're the one in the driving seat the Guinea pig even :D I hope you work it out as it's a quad I will ultimately be running in this board.
11-06-2008, 02:26 AM
namegt

"C-N" Thank you. ^ ^

"Cool, where did that come from & have you got any change log?"

Here it is. 10/28 BIOS
http://cfs14.tistory.com/original/4/.../4912c55599394

http://namegt.tistory.com/attachment...13e76597BU.zip
11-06-2008, 03:16 AM
Peter Burg

Does anybody have 45nm Quads for testing? DC is kinda boring ...
11-06-2008, 03:20 AM
terroristone

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Burg

Does anybody have 45nm Quads for testing? DC is kinda boring ...

i've been watching this thread to see how the quads go, im itching to get the dfi p45 t2r but for once im going to hold off and see how well they go with quads....come on guys get ya quad benches up.
Andrew
11-06-2008, 03:24 AM
namegt

FSB600 x6
http://cfs13.tistory.com/original/12.../4912d31555c46

Hard FSB600 x6 ...

In DK P45 PLUS easy FSB600
BIOS is the problem?
11-06-2008, 03:35 AM
C-N

Quote:

Originally Posted by namegt

Hard FSB600 x6 ...

In DK P45 PLUS easy FSB600
BIOS is the problem?

Nice, does 1028 make fsb easier than 1007?
11-06-2008, 03:43 AM
namegt

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-N

Nice, does 1028 make fsb easier than 1007?

1028 than 1007 easily and help me, the FSB's
And yet, is low.

"C-N"
I just wanted your 1028 results.
11-06-2008, 04:16 AM
C-N

I wont have time to try 1028 properly for a couple of days & I have to work all weekend too so maybe it'll be next week before I get round to pushing 1028 hard enough to tell you if I can find any benefits.
11-06-2008, 04:51 AM
Peter Burg

You can check my thread out at forumdeluxx.de

there are some people who tested the UT P45 with 45nm Quads, but for those 2-3 people it's a) their first DFI ever and b) the first DFI since the Ultra-D. Theye are overwhelmed with the tons of settings with this board and the open GTL structure.
Well, I have to get this mainboard, otherwise we won't have any good results :P
11-06-2008, 04:59 AM
C-N

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Burg

Does anybody have 45nm Quads for testing? DC is kinda boring ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Burg

Well, I have to get this mainboard, otherwise we won't have any good results :P

He he well you just said what I was thinking but didn't have the balls to post seeing as I don't know you lol.

I look forward to your results my friend :)
11-06-2008, 05:45 AM
Peter Burg

Get some balls :D

This is my rig atm, I can use the watercooling parts for the UT P45 as well :)

http://www.sysprofile.de/id24990

Cheerio
11-06-2008, 05:54 AM
nidecker

@namegt: where you have find that beta 1028? Can't find it on dfi site :confused:
It's secure? stable?

I've some trouble to stabilize e0 >550fsb (cpu gtl set to minimum) even if I can boot at 600, but really not stable.
Try this evening on a little e8200 c0

:)
11-06-2008, 08:42 AM
politenessman

i am having real problems running a q9550 e0 on this board. have narrowed it down to the mb, as the quad runs fine on my other 2 boards. also, my e8500 e0 runs fine on the dfi p45. so i dont know whats going on with it right now. i put about 8 hours into swapping things in and out and it still randomly warm restarts or bsod at default everything. i have been running dfi boards since nf2 infinity, and have only run dfi and biostar since the ultra-d. (present msi in secondary rig is a fill-in)

does anybody out there have a 45nm quad that they can drop in this board? not that it makes much difference, but i would like to know if its my board or all/most/many/some of them.
11-06-2008, 09:28 AM
Peter Burg

Did you make a CMOS + RTC Clear after putting a new CPU in it (after the E8500 I assume)?
11-06-2008, 04:24 PM
namegt

Quote:

Originally Posted by nidecker

@namegt: where you have find that beta 1028? Can't find it on dfi site :confused:
It's secure? stable?

I've some trouble to stabilize e0 >550fsb (cpu gtl set to minimum) even if I can boot at 600, but really not stable.
Try this evening on a little e8200 c0

:)

DFI 1028 BIOS is not on your site.
I went to Google search through the 1028 BIOS.
The stability can not be held responsible for the 1028 BIOS.
11-06-2008, 04:30 PM
namegt

DFI wait for the official BIOS is ...

UT P45 T2RS who have memory problems?
What memory?

According to the results of my test OCZ-7200, Kingston -5300, ST-6400, 6400Hz
There were no problems.
11-06-2008, 05:06 PM
politenessman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Burg

Did you make a CMOS + RTC Clear after putting a new CPU in it (after the E8500 I assume)?

i did a cmos clear. many times, in fact. why would i have to reset the real time clock for a new cpu? i am kind of floored that i cant just drop in a q9550 and run it at default. one of the above guys mentioned gtl's and vtt but nothing, with the possible exception of vdimm should have to be changed to run a cpu a stock speed. i didnt have to adjust anything on my 750i board to run the q9550. hated to do it, but i ordered an asus (my first asus in about 5 years) p5q deluxe last night to cover while i rma this dfi. and if the asus runs and oc's well, i might just get a refund on the dfi. out of the 4 dfi boards i have bought this year, 2 of them had to be rma'd within days. they were not doa, but this board and the lp dk x48 i had would not run stable for more than a few minutes. the lp ut p35 was great (was hoping this board would be its successor) and the lp dk p45 was ok, tho. but since the nf2 infinity, i had never had to rma a dfi board until this year.
11-07-2008, 03:24 AM
terroristone

you win some you loose some, i had to send my dfi p35 ut back for rma, it :banana::banana::banana::banana: itself after about 8months and took out a set of ram and 2 raptors with it, i've always had dfi boards and will continue to even tho their RMA service take way too long.
Andrew
11-07-2008, 05:28 AM
Peter Burg

I just bought the UT P45 :)
11-07-2008, 05:41 AM
C-N

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Burg

I just bought the UT P45 :)

Get it open then & crack open a fresh tin :D

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m..._whoop_ass.jpg
11-07-2008, 06:46 AM
kitfit1

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-N

Get it open then & crack open a fresh tin :D

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m..._whoop_ass.jpg

Me thinks he may need more than just the one tin :D
11-07-2008, 10:10 AM
politenessman

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitfit1

Me thinks he may need more than just the one tin :D

yes me too. i put the e8500 e0 back in, and it was fine. removed it, cleared all 3 jumpers (cmos, rtc and "cant boot") and the easy clear (press power and reset microswitches for 4 seconds.) then re-installed the q9550. still ng. if i really pile on voltage to everything, it will remain up at stock settings for a while. but then i will click a link or something and boom, warm restart. but with all default except vdimm (2.00v), wont even post most of the time. or die on forst post screen.
11-07-2008, 11:36 AM
Peter Burg

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-N

Get it open then & crack open a fresh tin :D

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m..._whoop_ass.jpg

It's comin' from Germany to Austria, hope it doesn't take that long. It starts it's journey tomorrow :)
11-08-2008, 10:39 AM
RNeon

I have now the T3RS and i cannot get 500MHz FSB. I hav tried so many settings. With my old T2RS it was so simple. whats wrong now. Please help
11-08-2008, 11:44 AM
SNiiPE_DoGG

Quote:

Originally Posted by RNeon

I have now the T3RS and i cannot get 500MHz FSB. I hav tried so many settings. With my old T2RS it was so simple. whats wrong now. Please help

where did you pick up the t3rs?
11-08-2008, 12:02 PM
RNeon

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

where did you pick up the t3rs?

here!!!

http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_i...-P45-T3RS.html
11-08-2008, 01:01 PM
Kris

Just got my P45! Now if my Q9550 would show I could have some fun!
11-09-2008, 07:45 AM
politenessman

well i got my p5q deloox and the q9550 overclocks terrific, 4ghz plus. so it was either my ut p45, or all ut p45 that are not too good with the 45nm quads. but as the ut p45 overclocked my e8500 e0 very well, i am thinking that this may be across all the boards. have to admit, the asus suprised me, overclocks great, great bios, integrated software, is well, elegant. it all works (v64), the layout is great. diamond flower international back for refund. will try again with x58.
11-09-2008, 10:30 AM
Exedy

the top of nb heatsink is removable to fit a HR 05 like UT X48?
11-09-2008, 11:09 AM
politenessman

nope.
11-09-2008, 11:13 AM
VOID WARRANTY

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-N

I dusted of my old SS last night & gave her a bit more stick :D

560fsb is where all the action is on my board ;)

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...ncy5625X95.jpg

so even across the board read write and copy bandwidth...im loving the results you guys are geting with this board...seems to be scaling well on every level :up: keep up the good work soldier,s
11-09-2008, 02:06 PM
PolRoger

5 Attachment(s)

What is up with these low voltages?!

Two weeks ago I was impressed when I could finally run my HyperX (D9 GKX) on my UD3P at 500fsb 333 latch with 5/6 divider at DDR-1200 using around 2.1v.

Well the UT also has a very nice 333/800 divider... I first tested two sticks which worked but then I tried 4 sticks D9 GKX at DDR2-1200 but with mostly default voltages! Used fine clock delay: 3-3-1. I Ran Prime blend for six hours when I stopped and took this screen shot.
11-09-2008, 08:32 PM
nugzo

My UD3P died yesterday and i came to this thread hoping for some quad results.... No such luck, well theres been some bad luck. Maybe i'll order 1 and try.
11-09-2008, 08:35 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by nugzo

My UD3P died yesterday and i came to this thread hoping for some quad results.... No such luck, well theres been some bad luck. Maybe i'll order 1 and try.

did it take your ram with it :rofl:
man i wouldnt buy that board for 50$
i lost so many d9 on gigabut boards n so many gigabut board rmas
no more gigabut 4 me
11-09-2008, 08:46 PM
nugzo

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

did it take your ram with it :rofl:
man i wouldnt buy that board for 50$
i lost so many d9 on gigabut boards n so many gigabut board rmas
no more gigabut 4 me

Yes it took 8gb with it. My 1 day old 4gb 2x2 gskill 9600's (that the egg is back out of stock of) and 4gb of gskill 8800.
11-09-2008, 09:31 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by nugzo

Yes it took 8gb with it. My 1 day old 4gb 2x2 gskill 9600's (that the egg is back out of stock of) and 4gb of gskill 8800.

damn shame
well i lost 6 sets of ram to gigabut boards so ...
gonna be tough to get more of those
11-10-2008, 04:31 AM
C-N

@ PolRoger I'm impressed very nice :up:

:rolleyes: Wishes he hadn't sold all his GKX now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nugzo

Yes it took 8gb with it. My 1 day old 4gb 2x2 gskill 9600's (that the egg is back out of stock of) and 4gb of gskill 8800.

Ouch mate I feel for you there I'd be wild if that happened to me.

Edit: @ PolRoger forgot to mention the board overvolts the RAM slightly .05v on my DMM, also the Prime shot shows 48~56k try custom 4096 for an hour rather than small fft's that just test the CPU cache.
11-10-2008, 06:42 AM
PolRoger

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-N

@ PolRoger I'm impressed very nice :up:

:rolleyes: Wishes he hadn't sold all his GKX now.

Ouch mate I feel for you there I'd be wild if that happened to me.

Edit: @ PolRoger forgot to mention the board overvolts the RAM slightly .05v on my DMM, also the Prime shot shows 48~56k try custom 4096 for an hour rather than small fft's that just test the CPU cache.

C-N: I have a DMM could you tell me where I could take a reading of the actual DIMM voltage? Do yo think the VTT and MCH/NB might be overvolting as well?

I've also been testing my Powerchip IC Reapers... using the same 333/800 divider and similar low voltages... so far I've managed 8.5x470 DDR2-1129
with my 4GB kit of PC2-8500 at 1.95v and 8x500 DDR2-1200 with my 2GB kit of PC2-9200 at 2.0v. VTT and MCH/NB were both at default.

DFI seems to have found a real sweet spot with the default voltages settings and the 333/800 divider but when you raise CPU vcore to get higher overclocks and then offset it with VTT/NB and GTLs... it becomes much harder to find that nice balance of stability.
11-10-2008, 07:28 AM
C-N

Quote:

Originally Posted by PolRoger

C-N: I have a DMM could you tell me where I could take a reading of the actual DIMM voltage? Do yo think the VTT and MCH/NB might be overvolting as well?

Look at this post http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...35&postcount=1 or use the empty cap pad near the motherboard screw you cant quite fit because the heat pipe from the SB to NB runs over it.

I couldn't really answer for the rest of the voltages as I've not attempted to measure them. I wouldn't be too bothered if the VTT/NB voltage was 0.05v over though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PolRoger

I've also been testing my Powerchip IC Reapers... using the same 333/800 divider and similar low voltages... so far I've managed 8.5x470 DDR2-1129

That'll be the PC2-8000 kit ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by PolRoger

DFI seems to have found a real sweet spot with the default voltages settings and the 333/800 divider but when you raise CPU vcore to get higher overclocks and then offset it with VTT/NB and GTLs... it becomes much harder to find that nice balance of stability.

And thats why you love it :D
11-10-2008, 09:48 AM
PolRoger

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-N

Look at this post http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...35&postcount=1 or use the empty cap pad near the motherboard screw you cant quite fit because the heat pipe from the SB to NB runs over it.

I couldn't really answer for the rest of the voltages as I've not attempted to measure them. I wouldn't be too bothered if the VTT/NB voltage was 0.05v over though.

That'll be the PC2-8000 kit ?

And thats why you love it :D

C-N: Thanks for the link... I don't have the PC2-8000 kit just the 4GB Reaper kit of PC2-8500 and the 2GB Reaper kit of PC2-9200.
11-10-2008, 10:26 AM
C-N

Quote:

Originally Posted by PolRoger

C-N: Thanks for the link... I don't have the PC2-8000 kit just the 4GB Reaper kit of PC2-8500 and the 2GB Reaper kit of PC2-9200.

I dont think they are Powerchip.
11-10-2008, 12:23 PM
Razor_Blade

Must have DDR3 version!!!!! I just harassed Mobopro; they said that they are going to check up on getting it and a release day.
11-10-2008, 01:11 PM
SNiiPE_DoGG

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor_Blade

Must have DDR3 version!!!!! I just harassed Mobopro; they said that they are going to check up on getting it and a release day.

I was gonna do that but then the Avenger got a confirmed release, I would rather have my 2 x 16x slots tyvm :D:D:D
11-10-2008, 03:04 PM
kitfit1

Finally got round to getting my UT P45 up and running today. It's the same cpu i had in the P35 in my sig, only using 4x1gig of OCZ PC9600 Flex instead of 2x1gig. On the P35, 2 sticks were running at 510x10 on the 5:6 divider putting the ram at 612fsb. As you can see from the screenie below, going at 556x9 at the moment.

http://ocidb.com/sites/default/files...x9.preview.jpg
11-10-2008, 06:24 PM
PolRoger

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-N

I dont think they are Powerchip.

I thought the new 2.1v revision Reapers were using Powerchip IC... What do you think they are using?
11-10-2008, 08:56 PM
jdmR

comparing this to the dk version, is the dif in price worth it? it'll be my first build and was lookin forward to the dfi dk p45 t2rs or the jr version.
11-10-2008, 10:06 PM
mrcape

I'm real curious about the DDR3 version of this. Have yet to see a P45/DDR3 that can get ultra high FSB like RE, that would be sweet.
11-11-2008, 01:17 AM
C-N

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

I was gonna do that but then the Avenger got a confirmed release, I would rather have my 2 x 16x slots tyvm :D:D:D

You don't have to convince me to buy the latest all singing thingys but you won't see the difference. 2 8x slots at PCI-E 2 have the same bandwidth of 2 16x PCI-E 1 slots & as far as I know nobody has maxed these out yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitfit1

Finally got round to getting my UT P45 up and running today. It's the same cpu i had in the P35 in my sig, only using 4x1gig of OCZ PC9600 Flex instead of 2x1gig. On the P35, 2 sticks were running at 510x10 on the 5:6 divider putting the ram at 612fsb. As you can see from the screenie below, going at 556x9 at the moment.

Looks good, How you getting on with the board? you like it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by PolRoger

I thought the new 2.1v revision Reapers were using Powerchip IC... What do you think they are using?

Interestingly you are correct, they are powerchip same as the Reaper X 8000's but what is interesting is OCZ have revised the voltage spec of the 8500 kit to 2.2v max which is what threw me & made me question the IC's

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmR

comparing this to the dk version, is the dif in price worth it? it'll be my first build and was lookin forward to the dfi dk p45 t2rs or the jr version.

For me personally the answer is yes but the difference is actually nothing I can show you!!!! I have a DK a DK Plus & this board the UT P45. The plus is running 24/7 as my work station at 4GHz DDR 1000 with 4GB of RAM & Vista & its sweet. The std DK has been to the gates of hell & back benching on phase just for fun & the UT as you can see in this thread has had a good run too. If its numbers you are after they are all as good as each other. If its high speed stability the UT wins for me, thats really the only way I can split them up. Oh just thought crossfire is a bit tight on the DK's & the 2nd card covers the floppy connector too where as the UT is fine plenty space.
11-11-2008, 02:56 AM
DJSUB

any result on UT P45 T3RS?

thanks :)
11-11-2008, 03:16 AM
maxxx

Quote:

any result on UT P45 T3RS?

@DJ: waiting for your results mate.... :D
11-11-2008, 04:53 AM
emoners

@DJ & maxxx: grabe na upgrades nyo pre ah :p:
11-11-2008, 05:20 AM
maxxx

@emoners: am just getting the T2RS. It will be here tomorrow. Hope more folks can show some results with a Q9650/E8600...
11-11-2008, 05:29 AM
DJSUB

@ maxxx
i'm probably getting the T3RS but the problem is i still don't have money to buy ddr3 3gb kit mems :rofl:
11-11-2008, 09:52 AM
jdmR

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-N

For me personally the answer is yes but the difference is actually nothing I can show you!!!! I have a DK a DK Plus & this board the UT P45. The plus is running 24/7 as my work station at 4GHz DDR 1000 with 4GB of RAM & Vista & its sweet. The std DK has been to the gates of hell & back benching on phase just for fun & the UT as you can see in this thread has had a good run too. If its numbers you are after they are all as good as each other. If its high speed stability the UT wins for me, thats really the only way I can split them up. Oh just thought crossfire is a bit tight on the DK's & the 2nd card covers the floppy connector too where as the UT is fine plenty space.

this will be mainly a gaming rig, but not games that are too demanding. mainly counterstrike source and team fortress 2. these games are more processor based and from what ive seen on both reviews on the dk and ut is that the ut gets better fsb. but then again i dont know if i'll need that high of a fsb for these games.
11-11-2008, 01:37 PM
C-N

@ jdmR

I think any of the boards will be fine & will do what you want no problem.
11-11-2008, 02:05 PM
jdmR

thanks c-n. one last question for anyone who has a xigmatek hdt s-1283. is there any problems fitting the heatsink either way?
11-11-2008, 02:40 PM
kitfit1

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-N

Looks good, How you getting on with the board? you like it?

So far i'm likeing it a lot. Running 4 sticks of ram is very trickey, but is more than doable and will probably get easier once i fully understand the change in settings from the P35. As with all DFI's since the NF2 days, once you've got the ram side of things sorted the rest is plain sailing.
11-11-2008, 03:51 PM
nugzo

Aite i just ordered one of these to try out while my Gigabyte is @ RMA. ordered just now overnight so i'll probably get it Thursday. My quad did 515 FSB stable on the gigabyte ud3p. lets hope this DFI is as good. I'll post my results as soon as i can. Untill then, Any high fsb quad templates would be greatly appreciated.
11-11-2008, 07:55 PM
maxxx

Quote:

one last question for anyone who has a xigmatek hdt s-1283. is there any problems fitting the heatsink either way?

I have an S-1283 on the P35 UT and fits well. It should fit with this board. Layout looks similar enough.
11-11-2008, 09:47 PM
jdmR

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxxx

I have an S-1283 on the P35 UT and fits well. It should fit with this board. Layout looks similar enough.

both ways? horizontal and vertial flow?
11-11-2008, 10:08 PM
maxxx

@jdmR: I have only tried the horizontal direction. But I think it should fit. Gonna test when I remove the heatsink this weekend.
11-11-2008, 10:13 PM
jdmR

@maxxx

thanks, let me know :D
11-12-2008, 01:57 AM
DJSUB

@ RNeon

any new result with your UT P45-T3RS?
do you still have problem running 500fsb and above?

please post your bios template & we will try to help you :)
11-12-2008, 04:55 AM
RNeon

Hello,

thank you for trying help but i have changed to T2RS. No any chance to run 500FSB. Maybe it´s better with new Bios version but i cannot wait so i´ve changed.
11-12-2008, 05:17 AM
DJSUB

Quote:

Originally Posted by RNeon

Hello,

thank you for trying help but i have changed to T2RS. No any chance to run 500FSB. Maybe it´s better with new Bios version but i cannot wait so i´ve changed.

it also happens to me with lanparty JR P45. but when i saw some reviews
on the net, i found adjusting the bootup clock to 400 will fix my problem running 500x8fsb.

before selling my lanparty jr p45 i did 626x7fsb on air cooling. no setfsb & clockgen, straight boot from bios to windows :)

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/6...ghtbootdw0.jpg
11-12-2008, 06:28 AM
jdmR

wow, thats one hell of an matx board. nice numbers sub, now im thinking about that board!
11-12-2008, 06:39 AM
DJSUB

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmR

wow, thats one hell of an matx board. nice numbers sub, now im thinking about that board!

i think the UT P45 is better than JR.
i saw C-N's post, the memory bandwith is comparable to UT P35.
and the best on it can do same clock as my JR P45 on aircooling 626fsb ;)
11-12-2008, 07:22 AM
jdmR

for my needs, the jr p45 would be enough. its a smaller version of the dk p45 but the highest fsb i've seen on the dk p45 is 480. you think adjusting the boot clock will work the same way for the dk?
11-12-2008, 09:26 AM
DJSUB

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmR

for my needs, the jr p45 would be enough. its a smaller version of the dk p45 but the highest fsb i've seen on the dk p45 is 480. you think adjusting the boot clock will work the same way for the dk?

i think that's quadcore thats why 480fsb only.
i didnt test the max fsb quad on JR p45 but in UT P35 i did 493fsb on air last year :)
about the boot clock maybe it should work but try to tweak GTL.
11-12-2008, 09:42 AM
C-N

@ jdmR

Both my DK's do well over 600 easy.
11-12-2008, 10:59 AM
nugzo

I must have 500fsb for my quad or UT is sold as soon as UD3P gets back. Kinda hard to go down. We'll see tomorrow.
11-12-2008, 10:50 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by nugzo

I must have 500fsb for my quad or UT is sold as soon as UD3P gets back. Kinda hard to go down. We'll see tomorrow.

why not just get a refund for it
i had 4 gigagut boards die in a matter of 6 months last year
3 p35c-ds3r n 1 x38-dq6
i'm surprised the last p35c-ds3r is still alive 1 year later:rofl:
11-13-2008, 05:28 PM
nugzo

Mine came in today. Installed board and it wouldnt post. power supply just beeped over and over.
Then i remembered, a few years ago i had a DFI 680i that did the same thing with this power supply.
Apparently early revision Enermax Power supplies do not work correctly with DFI Motherboards.
Google confirmed this. I was able to get it to occasionally post by removing the floppy PCIE power connectors,
per DFI forums. Now it posts 60% of the time.

So far i havent been able to get this quad to boot higher then 450fsb. :mad: This bios is so intimidating.
Sooo many different or different named adjustments, I dont really know where to start.
I started with C-Ns dual core template as a baseline and modified and adjusted from there.
Not much luck. I wish there were some more Quad users with this board to cheat off of :rolleyes:
Some high FSB ABS files would be awesome. :yepp: I'll keep playing with it for a few days till my UD3P gets here,
Maybe i'll have some luck by then.
Which thread could i read to get me more knowledgeable with these bios settings, Does the x48, p35 or others have the same settings?
I'll check em out and see.
11-13-2008, 07:02 PM
Jor3lBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by nugzo

Aite i just ordered one of these to try out while my Gigabyte is @ RMA. ordered just now overnight so i'll probably get it Thursday. My quad did 515 FSB stable on the gigabyte ud3p. lets hope this DFI is as good. I'll post my results as soon as i can. Untill then, Any high fsb quad templates would be greatly appreciated.

Hey Nugzo I'll keep my eyes closed on this one as I want to run my Q9650 at 500x9 for 24/7 that is impossible on my DFI X48 (485fsb limit).

Post your results as soon as possible :up:
11-13-2008, 07:05 PM
Jor3lBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by nugzo

Mine came in today. Installed board and it wouldnt post. power supply just beeped over and over.
Then i remembered, a few years ago i had a DFI 680i that did the same thing with this power supply.
Apparently early revision Enermax Power supplies do not work correctly with DFI Motherboards.
Google confirmed this. I was able to get it to occasionally post by removing the floppy PCIE power connectors,
per DFI forums. Now it posts 60% of the time.

So far i havent been able to get this quad to boot higher then 450fsb. :mad: This bios is so intimidating.
Sooo many different or different named adjustments, I dont really know where to start.
I started with C-Ns dual core template as a baseline and modified and adjusted from there.
Not much luck. I wish there were some more Quad users with this board to cheat off of :rolleyes:
Some high FSB ABS files would be awesome. :yepp: I'll keep playing with it for a few days till my UD3P gets here,
Maybe i'll have some luck by then.
Which thread could i read to get me more knowledgeable with these bios settings, Does the x48, p35 or others have the same settings?
I'll check em out and see.

That's pretty bad new for me.

Those you pointed have close BIOS try to peak on the X48 Thread.

Keep GTL Ref Settings around 67% VTT for the Q9650. Also don't be shy on NB volts.

See if RGones Template help you with the Quad:
http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showpos...2&postcount=14

If you can make 8x500 pretty sure you'll get too 9x500 or more...
11-13-2008, 07:11 PM
DJSUB

C-N & praz are the masters of DFI boards. try to ask them :D
11-13-2008, 07:41 PM
chuchnit

This board is looking really nice. I just wish more people owned it with some Quad action. This may be my next board once I scrounge the funds.
11-13-2008, 07:46 PM
nugzo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

That's pretty bad new for me.

Those you pointed have close BIOS try to peak on the X48 Thread.

Keep GTL Ref Settings around 67% VTT for the Q9650. Also don't be shy on NB volts.

See if RGones Template help you with the Quad:
http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showpos...2&postcount=14

If you can make 8x500 pretty sure you'll get too 9x500 or more...

Thanks. I just finished trying this one. its with different ram so maybe that was it. kept freezing on first post screen about 1/4 down then nothing. i'll try your link now.
11-13-2008, 07:54 PM
Jor3lBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by nugzo

Thanks. I just finished trying this one. its with different ram so maybe that was it. kept freezing on first post screen about 1/4 down then nothing. i'll try your link now.

Hummm, it should work :confused:

If not go 1.603vtt with GTL's:
1/2-140
0/3-130
NB GTL -110

See if passes the Post Screen.

On my DFI_X48 it posts 500x8 but hangs in post screen also. P45 should be a breeze do.

EDIT: this vtt setting is only for Nugzo (the guy knows what his doing) to boot 500fsb I don't endorse/utilize or recommend this as 24/7 setting.
11-13-2008, 08:20 PM
nugzo

Wouldnt even post with those settings from your link. Only thing different was some ram timings. just booted at 475 and am in windows now with all dram on auto and gtls at .670. headin back to bios :) thanks!

Is it me or does vdroop enabled not work? i drop from 1.41 to 1.36 when i load up.
11-13-2008, 08:56 PM
Kris

Disable vdroop for it to work. Welcome to the DFI bandwagon!
11-13-2008, 09:32 PM
Jor3lBR

P45 vs X48

Quote:

Originally Posted by nugzo

Wouldnt even post with those settings from your link. Only thing different was some ram timings. just booted at 475 and am in windows now with all dram on auto and gtls at .670. headin back to bios :) thanks!

Is it me or does vdroop enabled not work? i drop from 1.41 to 1.36 when i load up.

It's actually working fine as Intel wanted it to work. That option gives the processor an 'escape valve' under load, causing the vcore to drop naturally. Vdroop Explained.

That option should always be on on a decent OC. Your quest for stability will start with that option disabled, when 24/7 settings reached you should turn that option ON and bump vcore up a little until you regain stability.

I can Windows/SuperPi/Browse etc with 485x9 on my DFI X48 but I wanted more after seeing 500x9 on Gigabyte's 1/4 of the price cheap value mobo.

I'm hoping you'll get there with the P45! Once you get used to the BIOS it will be easier.

Right now my 24/7 settings are Q9650_4234Mhz_470x9_1.32vcore on the DM_1177MhzDDR2.
http://i33.tinypic.com/919xr8.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/11cco02.jpg
11-14-2008, 01:18 PM
PolRoger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

It's actually working fine as Intel wanted it to work. That option gives the processor an 'escape valve' under load, causing the vcore to drop naturally. Vdroop Explained.

That option should always be on on a decent OC. Your quest for stability will start with that option disabled, when 24/7 settings reached you should turn that option ON and bump vcore up a little until you regain stability.

I can Windows/SuperPi/Browse etc with 485x9 on my DFI X48 but I wanted more after seeing 500x9 on Gigabyte's 1/4 of the price cheap value mobo.

I'm hoping you'll get there with the P45! Once you get used to the BIOS it will be easier.

Right now my 24/7 settings are Q9650_4234Mhz_470x9_1.32vcore on the DM_1177MhzDDR2.
http://i33.tinypic.com/919xr8.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/11cco02.jpg

Jor3lBR- Thanks for the advice and link about the vdroop.

Do you know offhand if vcore voltage is actually being throttled back and showing a lower value in BIOS with vdroop enabled... i.e. the actual vcore being applied to cpu is the higher value that is shown in the bios when vdroop is disabled? This is not so much a concern to me at moderate overclocks but I think it might be a factor when and if you are pursuing more aggressive voltage overclocks.

I'm also curious about you PL6 memory overclock... how much voltage are you using on your GSKILL's?
11-14-2008, 05:13 PM
Jor3lBR

Vdroop and Straps

Quote:

Originally Posted by PolRoger

Jor3lBR- Thanks for the advice and link about the vdroop.

Do you know offhand if vcore voltage is actually being throttled back and showing a lower value in BIOS with vdroop enabled... i.e. the actual vcore being applied to cpu is the higher value that is shown in the bios when vdroop is disabled? This is not so much a concern to me at moderate overclocks but I think it might be a factor when and if you are pursuing more aggressive voltage overclocks.

I'm also curious about you PL6 memory overclock... how much voltage are you using on your GSKILL's?

Hey Roger,

When Vdroop is Disabled the value showed in BIOS is the valued applied to the cpu without any drop on idle or full load.

When Vdroop is Enabled the value showed in BIOS is the max voltage cpu is giving and will be reduced under energy saver mode (if your using C1.EIST etc combined with Vid Special Add) or under full load. This is the ideal for the cpu longevity and even stability.

If you're going for Benches Disable them all, if you're going for 24/7 first find all settings you want with Vdroop Disabled, then turn Vdroop On and up the vcore a tad by a tad until you regain stability and thats all you will need to do.

Regarding the GSkill's PI I never gone above factory specifications yet (2.1v) these mem's are just crazy stuff (that's why so expensive) in fact to run Memtest 3.8 stable they only need 2.05-2.08 @ 1178Mhz with 266/667 divider (that is a tricky one in DFI), if you use the 333/800 strap they can run 1200Mhz comfortable with 1.83v :up:
11-15-2008, 09:56 PM
namegt

Good morning!
My E8400 test for a long time ...

http://cfs15.tistory.com/original/25.../491f7bc3e1204

DFI Lanparty UT P45 T2RS OC

TEST PC

cpu E8400
M/B DFI Lanparty UT P45 T2RS
RAM OCZ 7200 SLI 1x2
VGA x700
POWER ZM 750-HP
11-15-2008, 10:00 PM
namegt

4.5G OC

>CPU Feature:

Thermal Management Control.......... - Disabled
PPM(EIST) Mode...................... - Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal.................. - Disabled
CIE Function........................ - Disabled
Execute Disable Bit................. - Disabled
Virtualization Technology........... - Enabled
Core Multi-Processing............... - Enabled

>DRAM Timing:

Enhance Data transmitting........... - Fast
Enhance Addressing.................. - Fast
T2 Dispatch......................... - Auto

>Clock Setting Fine Delay Press Enter:

DLL And RCOMP Settings.............. - Auto
Ch1 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 3
Ch2 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 3
RCOMP Settings...................... - Model 1

Fine Delay Step Degree.............. - 70ps
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - Relaxed
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2396ps]
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2396ps]
Ch1 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Current[268ps]
Ch1 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Current[268ps]
Ch1 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Current[268ps]
Ch1 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Current[268ps]
Ch1 Command Fine Delay.............. - Current[394ps]

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - Relaxed
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2066ps]
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2066ps]
Ch2 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Current[48ps]
Ch2 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Current[48ps]
Ch2 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Current[48ps]
Ch2 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Current[48ps]
Ch2 Command Fine Delay.............. - Current[394ps]

Ch1 Ch2 Common Clock Setting........ - Relaxed

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto
.
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto

Flex Memory Mode..................... - Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL)............... - 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)............ - 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)................. - 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)............... - 15
All Precharge to Act................. - Auto
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC).............. - Auto
Performance Level.................... - Auto

>Read delay phase adjust Press Enter:

Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto

Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto

Write to PRE Delay (tWR)............ - Auto
Rank Write to Read (tWTR)........... - Auto
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)............. - Auto
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)........ - Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD).......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)......... - Auto
ALL PRE to Refresh.................. - Auto

>Voltage Settings:

CPU VID Control..................... - 1.375V
CPU VID Special Add................. - Enabled
CPU VID Special Add................. - Auto
DRAM Voltage Control................ - 1.9v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage............. - 1.55v
NB Core Voltage..................... - 1.25v
CPU VTT Voltage..................... - 1.2v
Vcore Droop Control................. - Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control............ - 3.60v
GTL+ Buffer Strength................ - Strong
CPU GTL 0 REF Volt.................. - 0.6250
CPU GTL 2 REF Volt.................. - 0.6250
CPU GTL 1 REF Volt.................. - 0.6250
CPU GTL 3 REF Volt.................. - 0.6250
North Bridge GTL 0 REF Volt......... - 0.6250
North Bridge GTL 1 REF Volt......... - 0.6250
FSB Vref............................ - 2A

Genie BIOS Settings:

Exist Setup Shutdown................ - Mode 2
Exist Shutdown After AC loss........ - Enabled
AC Shutdown Free.................... - Enabled
O.C Clock Fail Retry Counter........ - 1
O.C Clock Fail CMOS Reloaded........ - Disabled
CPU Clock Ratio..................... - 9
Target CPU Clock.................... - 4500MHz
CPU Clock........................... - 500
Boot Up Clock....................... - Auto
CPU Clock Amplitude................. - 800mV
CPU Clock0 Skew..................... - 0ps
CPU Clock1 Skew..................... - 0ps
DRAM Speed.......................... - 333/667
Target DRAM Speed................... - 1000MHz
PCIE Clock.......................... - 101mhz
PCIE Slot Config.................... - 1x 1x
CPU Spread Spectrum................. - Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum................ - Disabled

http://cfs15.tistory.com/original/29.../491f7bc331f30

http://cfs15.tistory.com/original/36.../491f7bc320dbe

http://cfs15.tistory.com/original/31.../491f7bc349244

http://cfs15.tistory.com/original/29.../491f7bc35f1d1
11-15-2008, 10:03 PM
namegt

BIOS links

http://namegt.tistory.com/attachment...13e76597BU.zip

For more information on Nice, 1028
11-15-2008, 10:11 PM
jdmR

maxxx did u ever find out if it fit both ways easily
11-16-2008, 01:43 AM
maxxx

@jdmR: Sorry mate, still haven't had the chance to do so.

@namegt: any description on this bios?
11-16-2008, 08:28 PM
JimmySVT

C-N i'm pretty new to this board and have a few questions, and you seem to be the go to guy for DFI boards, i'm currently looking a building a new rig mainly for gaming. I am wondering if you think the p45-t2rs plus or the p45 ut will be able to run a e8500 cpu at 500 fsb 24/7 at around 4200 mhz, also do which board do you think would be better for gaming and such, i've also looked at the gigabyte ud3p but don't know if i can put that much faith in a board that costs that little to last very long at those speeds
11-16-2008, 10:17 PM
jdmR

is there anyone else running a p45 t2rs that can confirm if the xigmatek hdt s-1283 will fit for horizontal airflow?
11-16-2008, 11:12 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmySVT

C-N i'm pretty new to this board and have a few questions, and you seem to be the go to guy for DFI boards, i'm currently looking a building a new rig mainly for gaming. I am wondering if you think the p45-t2rs plus or the p45 ut will be able to run a e8500 cpu at 500 fsb 24/7 at around 4200 mhz, also do which board do you think would be better for gaming and such, i've also looked at the gigabyte ud3p but don't know if i can put that much faith in a board that costs that little to last very long at those speeds

from what ive seen so far its a solid board
i thought the dfi ut p35 was best but the ut p45 is as good and will be better with a few bioses
me2 i dont put faith in no cheap ass board
i've had 4 gigabut boards die on me in a matter of 6 months n they were not cheap 225$ for p35c-ds3r 300$ for x38-dq6 "2007"
both my dfi board been doin 500fsb+ n all good:up:
11-17-2008, 03:38 AM
C-N

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmySVT

C-N i'm pretty new to this board and have a few questions, and you seem to be the go to guy for DFI boards, i'm currently looking a building a new rig mainly for gaming. I am wondering if you think the p45-t2rs plus or the p45 ut will be able to run a e8500 cpu at 500 fsb 24/7 at around 4200 mhz, also do which board do you think would be better for gaming and such, i've also looked at the gigabyte ud3p but don't know if i can put that much faith in a board that costs that little to last very long at those speeds

Jimmy I think its fair to say I have a slight sweet spot for DFI boards :rofl:

IMO both the Plus & the UT make 500fsb easy & should have no problem maintaining the speed with a dual core. I can’t comment on the Giga as I've not had one recently but the DFI is a quality board & runs very decent clocks on super low voltages & for that it gets my thumbs up.

One last thing that I feel I should point out is there really isn’t a very large boost in bandwidth when you drop the multi & pump the fsb up anymore. I used to love fsb but to be honest you can near as dam it reclaim any performance you may have lost by staying on the native CPU multiplier & tweaking the memory out a bit more.

I guess what I'm trying to say is the boards are so flexible you can near as dam do what you like either run high fsb on a low memory divider or run low fsb on a high memory divider the outcome will be very similar which should cater for just about every hardware combination.
11-17-2008, 04:51 AM
Peter Burg

It's not final yet:

http://www.abload.de/thumb/4000mhzdhn4.jpg

But it took me the same voltage to get it stable at 3,8Ghz on the UT P35. I hope I get those 4000Mhz stable!
11-17-2008, 05:10 AM
C-N

@ Peter Burg download & use the SG application from the normal non Plus DK P45 to make the mod skin appear properly.
11-17-2008, 05:24 AM
Peter Burg

Yeah I know, was kinda lazy to do that at 1 am ^^ But it shows the correct results, so who cares ^^
11-17-2008, 11:02 AM
C-N

Forgot to mention I loaded up the 1028 BIOS the other day & couldn't tell any difference from 1007.

I also had a play with 4 X 1GB sticks of ram & the board loved them, I could hardly tell the difference between 2GB & 4GB!!!

600+ fsb was just as easy with 4 x 1GB sticks

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/610X64GB.jpg

I also ran an hour of prime using 4096k with the same settings as my overclock I already posted in this thread.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m.../4GB1H4096.jpg

The only changes to my previously posted OC are as follows. (Note lower VDIMM & VNB Needed :D thanks to tweaking the skew's.

Code:

>Clock Setting Fine Delay Press Enter: DLL And RCOMP Settings.............. - Auto Ch1 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 2 Ch2 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 2 >Voltage Settings: DRAM Voltage Control................ - 2.17v NB Core Voltage..................... - 1.322v >DRAM Timing: Performance Level.................... - 8 >Read delay phase adjust Press Enter: Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Enabled Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Enabled Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Enabled Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Enabled Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Enabled Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto
11-17-2008, 11:34 AM
PolRoger

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmR

is there anyone else running a p45 t2rs that can confirm if the xigmatek hdt s-1283 will fit for horizontal airflow?

When I first tried to install my Xigmatek on the UT it was hitting the NB heatsink so I changed the orientation to be top to bottom instead of side to side. My Xigmatek would fit both ways on my LP JR P45 but that heatsink is a little smaller. It may be possible do some modding but I've not looked further at trying to make it work.
11-17-2008, 01:17 PM
Peter Burg

Nice results, C-N!

I am running prime custom right now @ 4000Mhz, 1024k, 8k, 10k passed, 896k just started. Man, i love this board but I also hate it, took me the whole day to figure out the right GTLs. But, I have to admit, it clocks better than my UT P35, with the P35 only the 3,8Ghz were stable at the same voltage, and I also tweaked with GTLs ...
11-17-2008, 01:54 PM
Jor3lBR

X48>p45

:down:

Quote:

Originally Posted by nugzo

My new one came in today. That DFI is comin out fast as it can. Couldn't get past 475 FSB with it (UT P45 T2RS)

This is bad news... Can't really believe why DFI continues to fail to OC Quads... Don't they know that Quad-Cores are out for some time now :shrug:

I'll pass P45 and probably will be getting Foxx_Avenger.

Shame as I'm a loyal DFI customer but if you don't support my favorite processor there is not much I can do.

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