So in theory one could add a thicker o-ring to lift the top off of the crosshatch pattern for increased flow? This would be an interesting test and could provide an alternative for people with weaker pumps maybe?
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Yes, but then you lose performance as you get flow over the top of the block.
Don't get me wrong here, it works with weaker pumps just fine, its just better with one with good head pressure.
Im actually running mine at the moment purely using convection with a quad at 3GHZ (9650) and once the water starts to convect load temps were mid to high 30's under Linpack. Water in the res was 20C and CPU idled around 29 to 32C.
Who needs a pump ;) LOL
I am going to rebuild the workbench to promote convection flow to 4 blocks for 4 boards and just use the pumps to cool the water in the reservoir, and then only when the water temp rises to high.
Most people have a DDC or D5 (or a few with an iwaki!) so I don't think it should be too much of an issue. I don't see many people using the db-1 in multi-block loops.
Looks nice, and I'm in the market for a new block. The good old apogee GT is getting long in the tooth.
Quicks heads up that i think both the boys have the block in hand and MSRP is $39.99
$39.99? very aggressive pricing there :up:
Yeah nice starting price.
tony how did this block act when chilled.
Im looking for a block for my chiller, and its down to this or the new XSPC Rev.3
But i remember you using it, and you seemed very happy with it. So Tony your honest advice, how is it on a chiller?
Damn that is cheap.
I was lucky enough to find a used Ek Supreme for 40 shipped a while back so thats what I upgraded to.
Very good price indeed. Even at that price, it still comes with all mounting hardware, a backplate, and barbs right?
I may have found a block for my backup rig.
It has a heavy base, I took mine to -5C or so on the TEC chiller and it did real well. The top material specs are -10C maybe a little better, so don't go to cold.
Im using 2 here with convection cooling and they do real well with that also, so heat transfer is good.
2 back plates, 1 dedicated 775, the other universal. ( we are sourcing a new 775/Nahelem backplate) 2 top hold down plates (again a new 775/Nahelem will be available soon also) 4 barbs, 2x3/8 and 2x1/2...washers, Freeze compound sachet and hold down springs etc..
You should need nothing else, what is in the box covers everything bar nahelem at this time
wow +850 for the price.
at $40 theres no way i cant pick this up to play with
any stores have 'em yet?
if it was in a case yes, fact is im using a 14gallon res here that also has a 230V march ubber pump (29ft pressure) in the loop although the pump is not powered at the moment...just CPU heat causes the water to move.
I have decided to redesign and alter the loop to be 100% convection with enough capacity to cool 800W spread over 4 CPU's.
When I get going i will take some pics ;)
HTPC will use one of the new HWlabs crossflow rads with the capability to be convection and pumped...dependant on load and CPU temps.
Any I dea what the price will be in the UK? We typically pay what the US pay in dollars circa £40?
I shipped em UK air mail, which means they will arrive USPS to you, i did this as i have had a few issues with UPS shipping the past 2 weeks. Martin...let me know the min it arrived please.
The USPS lady was good to me today.
How about some pictures for starters...
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9576/ocz1ff6.jpg
And will it fit 3/4" compression fittings you might ask...
With room to SPARE!!
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6484/ocz2ub2.jpg
Cheers!
Martin
That is sick, hell yeah!
I like how many XS users, especially Martin, take better pictures than the ones produced by the manufacturer. It looks TOO good!
I want this block; my Fuzion V1 is good and all but I wish I knew about stepped bases being better than bowing and all. And $40... wow!
Thanks!
I love my camera toys almost more than my testing toys..:)
I was thinking of you guys..;)
*want*
And I don't even use the compression fittings :shocked:
Hell for that price, I may just use it in my future Windows Homer Server box lol.
-yonton228/timmy
So my Photo skills are not good ;) LOL
I know a manufacturer in Taiwan (not BP) who makes compression fittings, would you guys be interested if OCZ were to offer these also?
I can also get quick connects in plastic and stainless...these something you looking for?
Let me know what you want, I will judge interest and if its workable I will get it ;)
Nice pics Martin:up: If the test results looks good then i will surely buy one for watercooling my HTPC.
I WANT QUICK CONNECTS!
However plastic ones look ugly (from what i've seen so far) and stainless well... its steel :s
But after seeing it used by some people and the ease at which it allows changing of blocks/hardware without having to drain the loop, I simply must have them in my next rebuild.
As for compression fittings well.. the more the merrier :) Especially if you can bring the price down.
I seem to remember them being either plastic or stainless, there may have been Nickel plated Brass also...im checking.
Tony, we're always interested in new bits. :D
I'm not a fan of compressions, so I withhold opinion there.
As for the quick disconnects, got any shots, are they flow restrictive at all?
F-Yes! Nickel plated QDC would be awesome.
What about these? http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...product_id=708
and yes, it's from the devil
EDIT but from the Koolance thread
EDIT http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=176690Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaskar
looks like they aren't that good
in general
If you can make them at least as good as Koolance, made out of nickle plated something and be priced competitive with Koolance compression then I woud definitely be interested. The Koolance go for $9 a pair, but are a gray color and I would like the silver look. Also, having some 90 degree swivels would be great too.
Also, a NB and SB block to match the CPU block would be great. Some acrylic tops in the mix also for the "BLING" factor. Oh, don't forget the GPU blocks, FC and GPU only. We need as many choices as possibly and if the quality is as good as your ram then we will have another quality vendor for w/cing.
Utnorris
Quick connects will always have some restriction...you have to except a little rough with the smoooth LOL
That's a pretty block!
I'm fine with the restriction... if you could however off those nickel plated brass ones instead of plastic/SS then you have ALL my QDC money :)
I don't understand why the QDC couldn't simply be made LARGER to the extent that the restrictive part is 10mm or so (most barbs having an ID of 10mm, which is less than the 1/2" ID of the tubing anyway). I know they might get BIG, but maybe the large style could only be used for things like external radiators and watercooling setups.
Regarding VGA and chipset blocks it depends on what the uptake on this block is like....the design is easy to port though so manufacture would be quick
There is a limit to what the bulk of people like and would buy...we have to look at the whole market when deciding on a product...pleasing a few helps but I need to please a wide audience. So you not minding a large quick connect may not reflect what the market wants...i buy 1000 and sell 100..not good.
Also...t304 or t316 stainless would do no harm to your loops guys...it may also be cheaper. Copper and copper based alloys still look to be quite expensive
.Sorry about multiple posts...forum here to me is slow and quoting is playin up
Ok Tony, love your work, but seriously, lets consider some things:
1 - Acrylic does not crack if done right. EK, DD and various other water cooling brands use it and they do not crack. Cracking is typically because someone over tightens their barbs, uses alcohol, or it was just poorly made.
2 - FCB, really wish you would reconsider this, but I understand you have to sell to the market demands and a universal block is in higher demand. So two things, make it so the barbs when attached sit above the card, makes for routing the tubing easier. And second, make one that is acrylic, :D. Seriously, :up:
Thanks,
Utnorris
A bit off topic, but I have a comment on the OCZ Freeze.
I got some in the mail today, and did a fresh application on my Q6600 @ 3.81ghz 1.53v (Fuzion V1, D-5 at 5 setting, MCR220, YL Medium w/ 1 3/4" shroud)
Lowered my temps 2C from Shin Etsu.
Nice :up: I've got a new favorite TIM.
I can't remember what it's called now, but there is an electro acid dipping type process that will turn stainless into a mirror/chrome like finish. My older brother used to work in a stainless fabrication shop, and he was always bringing home these artsy chrome like stainless goodies.
It may not be as hard and durable as chrome plating, but it's really nice..
stainless can be machines or polished to mirror...done it may times in a past life (10 yrs ago) LOL
If it has to be nickel plated brass then i will make sure thats what it is...you guys will just have to pay thats all.
On to the debate regarding full coverage VGA blocks, I really don't think that's the right path for OCZ, its to part specific for us which means lower volume. The only way I can get costs down is to hit the market with a universal block and maybe come with our own version of a uniplate...i actually know who makes the units you guys like already.
We will have to wait and see how this CPU block does first