ok,, lol sorry, ahh its not as loud as my cpu fan, or case fans..
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ok,, lol sorry, ahh its not as loud as my cpu fan, or case fans..
Very cool board.
Can't you use clockgen to monitor pci-e speed and rivatuner to monitor real gpu speed of the 9600's?
I see people hit 4ghz on air (for tests, not daily usage) with q6600's on a 680i a1 board... can it be done on this new 750i?
your new name tag is much better :D
and thanks for those infos! :toast:
the 9600gt stuff sounds weird tho...
Will the Ultra 120 extreme fit on this board with the fans facing out the back or will the NB heatsink+fan block that?I will have this board tomorrow now im worried im gonna need another H/S
Hi
I made the review of the mobo with that cooler (thermalright extreme 120)
you have a photo with the cooler installed on the mobo (Hardwre photo) in the review :
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=184096
:up:
The fan controller of the board is pretty sweet aswell. You can set it up in many different ways. I totally forgot to take pictures of the BIOS. Will do so in the evening, after I insulated the board for single stage. I will test 2 9800 GTX or GX2s on the board to see if those cards have similar issues as the 9600 GT.
I put a 6cm fan on the 780i NB (SmartCooler LFM 1560MV) attached it with two strips... cools way better and less noise...
http://users.pandora.be/OAP/SLI%20003.jpg
The Antec Spotcool works a treat I've been told.
Anyone testing this board with a Q9450? I'm definitely buying this board soon, but need a good CPU to run it with.
The 45nm quads top out at 450-490 MHz on booth P35 and 780/790i. From my experience the 750i is equal in terms of overclockability and performance to 780i.
On good air or watercooling. Cooling is not that important when it comes to FSB walls. Most CPUs have the same FSB wall on air and watercooling. It only changes when you go subzero - at least from the testing I have done.
Too bad I came home from work late, so again no BIOS pictures, but I am almost done with the insulation of the board and I have a 9800 GTX here for additional testing. For more info on the board, have a look at mascara's review: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=184096
Some pictures of the setup, my single stage and the top of the Cooler Master 1,000W PSU reflecting my desk =)
Fr3ak, i asked this in a diffrent thread, so I apologize for posting this twice but I really wanted some more opinions.
Would you recommend this board over an equally priced p35 and x38? Even if someone doesn't have any intention for SLI atm and doesn't know if he wants to SLI in the future?
That is a difficult question. If you have no intention of running either SLI or crossfire, a cheap P35 board will do just fine. I haven't seen a single board that cannot do 500 MHz FSB with the right equipment. So far mainboards with Intel chipsets have been less troublesome for me in regards to overclocking, but I have to admit, Nvidia did a really good job on the 790i. The 750i impressed me aswell. So far I didn't have any weird booting behaviour. It is completely different to 680i. For me 750i and P35 are equal, so I cannot recommend one over the other. At some point, it is a matter of price, as P35 boards are cheaper than 750i. Then again, why should someone buy P35 now, ehen P45 will be on the market by the end of the month.
You bring up exactly what concerns me. P35's are becoming dated.
The p35 i had my eye on (the dfi lp lt) is the same price as this board... Creating a hard decision... I never know when i might want to splurge money into 2 9600 gt's or another 8800 gt.
I need to think it over myself, maybe i should wait until the end of the month since i'm not in desperate need yet.
edit: I may get an x38 dfi lt... i found a sweet open box deal on newegg for $200.
How stable has the board been compared to a p35 or x38? Any problems when running 2 cards in sli?
Apart from the fact I had to downclock the 9600 GTs which is a issue of the card rather than the board, I didn't have any problems. I will test a new BIOS in the evening to see if there are still any problems and test the board with a 9800 GTX. I will try another card in SLI tomorrow, in case everything works fine and I will go sub zero on the E6600 to max out the FSB.
drizz75: Why getting X38 now when X48 is already out?
Ok, I have a good and a bad message.
The bad one is: Even with the new BIOS and a PCIe frequency of 101 MHz, I have trouble getting the 9600 GT to work. I still have to downclock it in order to finish a benchmarks.
Now to the good point: With the 9800 GTX, the board totally rocks. No problems whatsoever. Great performance and no iddues at all so far. I will get a second 9800 GTX tomorrow to test SLI.
3D is stable from bootup with a PCIq frequency of 140 MHz. With a working windows tool, I am pretty sure you can even increase the speed a little further. Max FSB with the new alpha BIOS seems to be the same. No improvment there.
I made some pictures of the BIOS I will add in Post #2. Those pictures are one of the worst I ever took. My deepest apologies.
From what I can tell, the board overclocks my memory better than on P35. Though I have to measure the voltage first to make a fair comparisson. The difference from the vcore I set in BIOS and what CPU-Z displays is miles different: 1.45V in BIOS are 1.408V in windows, according to CPU-Z. I will measure the exact voltage tomorrow with a DMM: I have to measure from the back of the board and I am way too tired to do something like that now as I would fall asleep during the process.
For the voltage screenshot, I maxed out all voltages in the BIOS to show what the maximum voltages are. That is everything I can think of at the moment. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
A little above my price range.. i was hoping to spend $130-230... If you can recommend a good one that isn't too expensive that I'll consider it.
Based off of the clocks i've seen people get on this board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136043
I might just get this one and throw the extra money into a fund for my WC setup.
I just found this one though
http://www.motherboardpro.com/DFI-La...ard-p-557.html
I am thinking about getting this board, but I am slightly worried about what heatsinks will fit it. Do you think most will be able to fit, and if not, do you have any recommendations for something around $50 for this board? I will also be getting the Thermal light LGA775 mounting kit, hopefully that works as well.
Fr3ak,
Are you testing different types of memory as well, or are you just running the same sticks? What kind of speeds are you able to get?
Also, what CPU do you think is showing to be the best for this board as far as OC and stability?
Just a heads up, a new BIOS is available that allows PCIe frequency adjustments, it can be found here:
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=329864
Thanks jAckUp for the information!
I didn't see the mounting of many new air coolers, so honestly, I cannot tell which one will fit. The NB is not that high, the critical point would be the mounting of the NB, because the screws of the NB mounting are pretty close to the CPU socket. Any cooler that fits a 780i reference board just fine, will fit on this board too.
I tested several kits of DDR2 memory, but they are all Micron D9GMH based. I just got a 4GB kit that I will try in the evening, but I only have 32bit XP installed.
As for the choice of CPU: That is up to you. The board shows great stability with booth dual and quad core CPUs. I wouldn't get a low end CPU with a FSB wall at 400 MHz ish, because that would be a waste for the board.
As for overclocking, the EVGA nForce 750i SLI FTW is one of the most troublefree mainboards I ever used. I can fully recommend this board in terms of overclockability and performance - with one exception: If you are going to use a 9600 GT (SLI), you should probably get a 780i or Intel based board, until the problems with 750i + 9600 GT are solved.
Hello all.. I just want to verify.. I am building my first gaming rig this weekend. I have all the stuff and am Xtramely excited. I have a couple of questions...
1) I did order a Palit 1GB 9600 gt but only 1.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814261013
I WILL run SLI when my bank account recharges.. so I shouldn't have any issues with one card right out of the box?
2) I am running the Tuniq tower..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835154001
Will this be a good cooling solution for the EVGA 750i / E8400 combo?
Anything else you all can recommend for a first time builder I am open..
Thanks in advance!
The Tuniq tower is a great cooler and from the picture it looks like it will fit the 750i just fine.
Now for the 9600GT: I think you will have the same problems, even when the card is running at stock speed. It might work, but it might not work. Why don't you get a 8800 GT instead? That card is faster and about the same price.
Ya, I am going to be picking up this board along with a Q9450. First system build in a long time. Mainly in part to the reviews here and Guru3d's new review. I think I am going to get back into overclocking also which I have not done in a LONG time.
I have the Noctua U9B and didn't know if the unique mounting system would fit the board. Here is a photo
http://www.evga.com/forums/upfiles/4...AB102A4371.jpg
If anyone who has the board could confirm it would fit, that would be appreciated.
After looking at my board, I am 99% sure your mountng will fit fine on the EVGA 750i. There is a keep-out area around the socket to make sure there is some kind of standard. I didnt see any parts violating the defined rules. The mosfet heatsink is far away, so I am very positive, there won't be anything in the way for the mounting.
I am running 9800 GTX SLI right now and it works flawlessly. Will post some screenshots and results later. I switched to a 4 GB DDR2 kit aswell and I am running 400 MHz 4-3-3-4 right now. No problems at all.
Fr3ak.. thanks for the advice..
I like the Palit as it has the HDMI and display port right on the card. I am thinking on hooking this up to my LCD TV. I looked and nobody really makes a comparable card. (connection wise)
any suggestions?
I know you can get the DVI to HDMI cable and all but its nice to have it port out the back directly.
All cards from Zotac have a DVI to HDMI adaptor. I dont know any cards that have a native HDMI port. I am more into overclocking than multimedia hardware tbh.
I really suggest a 8800 GT over a 9600 GT , especially with a 750i. In Germany the cards price is about the same, but 8800 GT has a better performance and the same cooler. There are some brands with aftermarket coolers like the Elitegroup 8800 GT with Arctic Cooling Accelro S2 and Turbo module.
I see. But isnt the "9" series more future proof?
No, just because the number is higher, does not mean it's better. The G94 is a light version of the G92-GPU that the 8800 GT uses. The whole 9 series is basically a refresh of the 8 series. I would get a 8800 GT over a 9600 GT any time and a 8800 GTX over a 9800 GTX.
Thats what I am doing. I am going to pick up an 8800GT. With the system I am building I will be able to play any game I want at max settings (Outside of 1900X1200 AA Crysis) for a few years. When Nvidia launches there new line of cards, I will pick one up but the 9 series is not a big enough of an upgrade and on most games it's overkill. My eyes can't tell the difference between 65 FPS and 75 FPS.
im thinkin of throwin together a new rig using this mobo. either that or a x38, prob a dfi dk.
cant decide if i wanna go with sli or xfire.
either way ill be usin a 2x2 kit of ram (red tracers or pi g.skills) and a e8200 or e8400.
with 1 retail and one open box you can get 2 8800 GTs or 3870 for right around $300
should be a good rig, this review has helped sway me to what might be my first nvid board.
Oh man.. I havent even built my system and I am going to have to RMA at newegg already.... :( Oh well
How about this.. worthy>>?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500006
For that price, just get an 8800 gts g92
Yes, definitely get an 8800gts g92, I have the evga version and it is faster than an 8800gtx and maybe even an ultra if you overclock it which it does really well. It also stays very cool because of the dual slot cooler, it never goes over 55 degrees celcius while playing crysis.
Ok.. I have been doing research.. I am torn. Not an easy one! What do you all feel is the best card for $200 after rebtates (give or take 10 bucks)?
Thanks for your responses.
I like this unit so far...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130337
I would get that card for sure, I can overclock mine (which is already overclocked) from 670mhz to 760 and it could go higher I just havent tried it yet. The 8800 gt can get really hot (like 90C) and the 8800gts g92 only gets to around 55C with the fan set at 55%.
Ok.. I am still going to build my system this weekend with my 9600, as I have been waiting too long not to! I will RMA the 9600 and grab the 8800GTS.
Thanks for all your help and responses guys... I apprecaite it!
Good information about the behaviour of this board.
I'm thinking about upgrading soon only because I want to be a part of the 4GHz club.
I'm currently running an E6420 @ 3.2GHz, couldn't get this stable at 3.4GHz and up on my Asus P5N-E SLI board (650i chipset).
I love my current board. It clocks well, I've had an E8400 up to 480MHz FSB, I know, I know, that's nothing compared to the most recent chipsets, but for such a board I think it's great.
Plus it's very stable, handles 4GB of ram just fine after recent bios updates, before it had a big gaping hole from high 700s to low 800s for ram speeds when using 4 sticks of ram.
When do you guys think the price will drop?
I'm planning on going with an E8400 or the X3110 (probably the X over the E).
I'm used to thinking midrange boards should cost in the 130-150 range, and this board is a good 200 bucks, which I believe is a highend board, here in Canada.
Cheers,
Mike
I am also waiting for a sale or price drop. I order my stuff from Ncix and their sales are downright horrible (save $5). The EVGA 750I was on for $170 a couple days ago now they bumped it up to $200. Same with the Q9450. The OEM version was on for $370 now it's up to $394, only $5 less then the retail package.
Here are two screenshots of 9800 GTX SLI. The board is running just fine and it seems to like my Corsair Dominators. 4 GiByte @ 450 MHz 4-3-3-4 at 2.2V. Still tesing for max clocks. I need a new CPU badly hehe
What's your feeling about the memory(-controller)? You mentioned the "b*tchy" 680i, but I liked it when it came to tight (sub)timings.
And how do you feel about the per-clock-performance?
Testing SLI at 1024x768 ????
That is the standard resolution of 3DMark 03 and 05 ;)
And 03 scales with every additional video card or higher GPU clocks =)
About the 680i: I was more talking about the boards suddenly stop working or only booting 2 out of 10 times. The memory clocks really well on 750i. I have no set of memory that I tested on P35, 680i and 750i, so I cannot give you a exact estimation.
Memory performance on 680i was worse compared to P35 clock for clock and I have the impression 750i's performance is closer to P35 than 680i, which is a good sign.
Thx :toast:
I had my Striker always @air, so luckily none of these problems which are typical for subzero AFAIK.
750i seems the best choice for a cheap SLI-solution...
What's a good quadcore and set of 2x2gb to go with this board?
Depends on how much money you want to spend. The best quadcore is the QX9650, but the Q9450 seems to be a nice bang for the buck. The Q6600 is still 65nm, but it has a multi of 9 and overclocks quite nice with the G0-stepping.
45nm quadcores have a lower multiplier because of the higher default FSB and they run into a FSB wall at 450-490 MHz.
As for 4GB kits of DDR2: I had great result with OCZ Reaper DDR800 4-4-3 and right now I am using Corsair Dominators TWIN2X4096-9136C5DF. They are even better, but also more expensive.
Do you have a link to where I can find those dominators? They aren't listed on corsair's website, and cant find them anywhere lol. Thanks :D
edit: since I found the q9450's in stock, I just placed an order for one of those. Now just need to find some memory to pair it up with.
Looks like that memory is not out yet. I will ask if I can get a release date from Crosair.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=28269
see if you can get those.
Thanks for the review Fr3ak. Here's my little Lian Li a05 with a 750i build
No point in giving a review since mascaras and Fr3ak have all but covered this board, but I thought I would share my rig since people love thread pics! Might as well add to the fun. Love the board, and it is a great board for the money. Nice OC's, great layout, great value, robust, featured bios, and reliable. Somehow, while prices for cpus and gpus have dropped, mobos have skyrocketed. It is nice to get this type of performance for a good price, and get a great layout.
However, the stock nb fan sounds like a weed whacker. You must replace it. I took Leeghoofd's inspiration, and did what he did to his 780i fan. I put a 60mm Stealth on it, and now my system is whisper quiet again.
Systems specs:
LL a05 [blowholes up top - needs the airflow in this case]
Cosair 620w
q6600 (b3) [32 idle]
Swiftech h20-120 Compact
2 x 1gb Dominators 8500 or 2 x 2gb Mushkin 6400, depending on the day
Evga 8800 GTX
HDs: 250 [XP + Vista Ultimate] / 300gb [apps] / 750 [data + media]
Dvico HD tv tuner
Creative x-fi Audio
LG Blu-Ray/HD-DVD player
Plextor DVD-RW
SilenX fans
Yes, my Dominator fan is missing 6 screws - I just did a diagonal pattern after stripping 2 of them modding the fan. I put in 3 Mini Kazes, and there is a big difference in dBa - another suggestion worth thinking about.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...5/IMG_0229.jpg
does moving the card down a slot help nb temps at all?
nice rig, the case looks smaller then mine which is hard to believe tho.
With all the stuff in there... the case looks pretty big to me, lol.
I know how big a GTX is and in his case with the rest of the stuff he makes it kind of small looking.
Nice build. Wat clocks do you get with that b3?
I had it had 470 with an 8 multi, but I could not get it Prime stable; then again, I did not aspend a lot of time tweaking. Running at 470 x7 for ~3.3 @ 5-5-5-12 with 2x1gb Corsair Doms 8500.
just got my 750 in cant wait to fire it up!
+1 lol
My GPU containers will be here soon, so I can do some more xtreme testing =)
So I got the board and needed to change some of my memory timings to those Mushkin Greg gave me.
However when I go to Advanced Chipset settings, none of the options he told me are there.
I also have no idea how to find my CPU multiplier.
Can anyone let me know how?
CPUZ is saying it's at X6 and my E8400 is only running at 2GHZ
Disable "Intel SpeedStep" and "C1E Function" in teh CPU Feature submenu, that you can find under Advanced BIOS Features.
To change the multiplier you have to go to Frequency/Voltage Control and enable "CPU Ratio Control Unlock". After than you can set the multi in the same menu ("CPU Ratio Control").
CPU-Z should be 100% correct. With C2D CPUs, the multiplier is always correct when the FSB is detected right too.
Hello all,
I am getting a BSOD when Vista 64Bit installs. It copies all the files to the hard drive then has to do the reboot. Upon this reboot it starts windows and has the progress bar start then BSOD. I have had XP 32 bit stable on here.. Any suggestions or ideas..
Thanks in advance.
Does anyone know if it will work with a xeon E3110 out of the box? Also would you guys recommend watercooling the chipset? what with?
Yep that was the issue.. 99% sure anyway as I am now finding out that the Dlink 132 usb NIC I was (going) to use does not offer 64 bit support. OH well time to get a newer NIC with Vista 64 bit drivers. Any suggestions????
Took 2GB's out and Vollia...
Until I get the updates from MS .. and all other stuff, I will wait to put in the other 2GB stick.
Thanks for all you help!!
Nice! I am jealous that it is never that easy for me. usually I have a retention plate fall, or a leak, and a bad bios flash, and a blown psu or something, and I have to rma stuff, swap out parts or something.
Glad it was as easy as just "pulling it out!" :rofl:
After frying another striker I'm interested in this board. Same rig as in my sig just sans striker. Has anybody encountered the corruption issues that 780/790/680 were plagued with?
I didn't even encounter them on 790i that I am using every day.
Just a couple of FYIs I wanted to post here cause this is the best 750i thread around. Not major problems but #1 has resulted in a few fried USB gadgets:
1, The printed manual you get with this board (the PDF manual on the EVGA site has been corrected) may have the location of the front panel USB connector in the wrong place on page 16 (it's right on pages 5 & 6.) The USB header is the blue one right next to the digital post code thingie and the battery. A few people apparently hooked their front-panel USB to the firewire connector resulting in a few fried iPods... ouch!
2. If you have an Antec P180 or P182 case (maybe other cases) the HDD led won't work. The LEDs in these Antec cases seem to need 3+ volts to light-up but this MB is only putting out ~2.5 with HDD activity. Other than replacing the LED on the Antec case, no known solution atm.
3. The power LED is also not working on the same Antec cases. The Antec connector is 3 pins with the wires at 1 & 3 and 2 empty. This MB has a 2-pin connector. Solution: move the white wire into the middle connector and it'll work.
Credit for figuring out the Antec case problems to u2sparky at the EVGA 750i forum.
Other than the above... this MB rocks!
Didn't the reference boards have the same LED issue with previous models ? Bios update fixed that... maybe it will again...
I didn't get retail packaging, so I couldn't say anything about the manual. Weird thing about the LED though.
nice review fr3ak
actually i planning 2 buy this baby in next 2 weeks
here's my will be rig :
EVGA nForce 750i SLI FTW
intel e8400
corsair hx620
corsair dominator 1066Mhz 2x2gb
XFX Gforce 8800GT x2
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7
Lite-On Sata Dvd burner
any input?
oh btw
http://www.evga.com/articles/401.asp
nice one there :D
Sweet setup you are gonna build, but why did you choose that weak air cooler for your CPU?
Fr3ak,
It is possible to run quad SLI on this board right? I'm scared of data corruption on the bigger brothers (I have 1.5TB of data I don't want to compromise).
Did evga fix that 9600gt problem you talked about earlier in this thread?
Peoiple should be getting 8800 GT for SLI. That card is faster and costs about the same.
Haven't had the time to try the EVGA 9600 GT yet, but I have a free timeslot tomorrow morning. So fingers crossed :)
I can say that is does seem very cost effective :) I paid a bit more than the current prices for my two EVGA 8800GT's but since the prices have dropped, I think they are a bargin for SLI... Only downside is you have to have an Nvidia motherboard and my XFX 780i is not a good one! :(
Still never mind :) Trying to hunt down two 8800GTX's since I'm trying to save up for a 30" Dell now :)
How good are the GTX's up against the G92 GTS's? Are they a lot better for higher screen sizes because of the extra ram?? I'm talking 1920 x 1200 minimum here.. :)
GTX/Ultra is still the fastest single GPU card, especially in high resoltutions with AA and AF enabled.
Are there any particular models of cards to get or are they all of a muchness? Was looking at a pair of Asus 8800GTX's for around £175 each, would they be any good?
EVGA 9600 GT KO works like a sharm with the board =) Just finished 03 with 800/2000/1050 MHz :)
Nice review,now i know what board im gonna get.This DFI 680i is such a horror story and dont want to use it any longer.
Also nice that the 2x16pci-e slot thing got cleared,i almost got my eye on 780i already cause i thought this mobo is going to be 2x8pci-e when SLI is running.
Still gotta figure out am i going to sell my E6600 or Q9300,planning the future with SLi.My E6600 is a beast,havent tested the Q9300 yet though.
So it would be :
E6600 or Q9300
8800GTX (another GTX later for SLI)
750i motherboard
4x1gb Corsair 800mhz DDR2
And maybe a new PSU,my antec 500W is passive heated prolly cant handle SLI setup.
Once again,beatiful review and it surely helped me alot with my upcoming choice for my new motherboard.
I just ordered a EVGA 750i the other day to replace my MSI 650i.... i have twin ECS 9600GT's and this thread scared me. My cards are not factory overclocked...they are reference clocked.... is this issue resolved with the 9600GT or is it vendor specific?
An EVGA rep chimed in and said a new bios was out what allows the PCI-E to be adjusted.... has this been checked?
thanks
Yes, its SZ17 and it does allow the PCI-E to be adjustable.
totally agree my single 8800gtx tromps bf2\q4 at 2048x1536 without a hitch settings med-hi 60 fps.
the 9800 is nothing more the a stall move on nvidias part til the 9900series comes out.nothing beats the 8800gtx\ultra clock for clock.ppl will argue the 9800gtx is faster etc.but thats because the 9800gtx is clocked up crazy hi core\mem speeds so guess what it better be.but dont forget the FACT that when u ramp up the hardware supior 8800gtx\ultras they destroy the 9800series in higher res easily,and yes the more memory helps alot.ppl showing tests 1600x1200 and under mean nothing to hi res gamers like myself.the 9800gtx is a DOWNGRADE from my 8800gtx now.
if the 9800gtx was worth anything when it came out it would have been a $600 card,not $350:rolleyes:.the 9900gtx is thee card that will replace the 8800gtx\ultra,not the 9800gtx stall card.
+++++read this thread,the ppl voted and AGREED the 9800gtx is a waste of time\money++++++
9800gtx,a complete letdown to 8800gtx\ultra owners?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=183309
click my sig links for MANY PICS- e8400(replaced e6600) ,enermax 1000watt,evga 750i(replaced dead dfi 680i) 8800gtx setup.it runs amazing and the sli option is priceless....!!!
Someone wanna share their BIOS settings?Im running quad Q9300.
any video coruption issue m8?
i just curios i can't find it in XS ~_~