GeForce 9800GX2 got reviewed and still buggy

Now I can only say: JEES, RELAX GUYS, TAKE A CHILL PILL!!!
For real man, I thought I was under a lot of hype with this new release (considering I have abandoned my SLi rigg, and there is no way back on this), and this might just be what the doctor ordered... Net searches, reviews, countless pics and interviews, Cebit eye-balled, countless hours, a real sleep problem... I'm down right now, low ass hell, cause I've never payd so mutch atention to this step in the harware war.

By the way, thx OBR for the relief (GX2+intel chip).

I'm going to eat my way to sikness, and hugg that pilow...
Cheers fella's!

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Originally Posted by Dan_c

Now I can only say: JEES, RELAX GUYS, TAKE A CHILL PILL!!!
For real man, I thought I was under a lot of hype with this new release (considering I have abandoned my SLi rigg, and there is no way back on this), and this might just be what the doctor ordered... Net searches, reviews, countless pics and interviews, Cebit eye-balled, countless hours, a real sleep problem... I'm down right now, low ass hell, cause I've never payd so mutch atention to this step in the harware war.

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I pay this much attention constantly,
I always have G.A.S (gear aquisition syndrome)

you get used to the insomnia ;)

OBR,please tell me what site you review for.I need to remove it from list.If,it is on there.Can you block a person on this forum:).

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Sorry Ati fanboy ... but you are right ... HD4000 will suck and ATi will never be better then NVIDIA!

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You fail journalism 101. You are supposed to be a professional reviewer. Such comments destroy your credibility.

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Originally Posted by Booj

You fail journalism 101. You are supposed to be a professional reviewer. Such comments destroy your credibility.

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What credibility, lol. JK btw, maybe everyone should take a deap breath and relax. All of this will be sorted out in the end. Some of you guys act like someone is talking bad about your sister. Its just a video card.

congrats OBR, you now have less credibility than the Inquirer! now maybe you can quit advertising for your "site" on our forums. XS deserves better than some fanboy passing off his BS. as a review.

lol that's gotta be the worst possible insults to a review site, being worst than the inquirer, at least fuddo is right in general and does decent reviews

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Originally Posted by OBR

ATi will never be better then NVIDIA!

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what about in 20yrs time? :shrug:

in 20 years of time the US won't be a world power at the rate its declining so there won't be either ati or nvidia, just Intel and european companies


That or hopefully we'll get a good president this time around and I'd say it could go either way in 20 years time, who knows, if gt200 is a monster, nvidia may hold the lead for some time, and with the way they're going, they never will have a true high end for a while until games start becoming more favorable to dual gpu solutions, just an amazing performance card and a dual gpu version of it

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Originally Posted by AliG

in 20 years of time the US won't be a world power at the rate its declining so there won't be either ati or nvidia, just Intel and european companies


That or hopefully we'll get a good president this time around and I'd say it could go either way in 20 years time, who knows, if gt200 is a monster, nvidia may hold the lead for some time, and with the way they're going, they never will have a true high end for a while until games start becoming more favorable to dual gpu solutions, just an amazing performance card and a dual gpu version of it

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My god, WHY did you dignify him with a response?

Hopefully not a repost. Don't forget its from NV!

GeForce 9800 GX2 reviewer's guide

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4...ide4rz8op8.jpg
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9599/guide11bw3.png

Wasn't AMD the king of the crowd with the Athlon's and X2's?

I thought that would never change.. look again!

Weasel words, Crysis @ 16x12, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Many naive Ati fanboys here ...:yepp: it is enough to see what post v_rr starts ... ATi, AMD, Barcelona, Ati, AMD, Opteron ... hahahah pure Ati fan naive boy ... Ati is in hell and will be defeated for ever ... it is reality and your stupid posts here cannot to change it ...sorry your dream about Ati is gone ...

OBR....lashing out and calling everyone a fanboy is just unacceptable here at XS.

Everyone is allowed their own preference and opinions, but when you start bashing other members because they don't agree with something you said, we can't allow that to happen. This is not the first time either...

Hopefully this thread can move on and we can have more clean 9800GX2 chat here :)

Being someone in between myself, with a slight deference to ATI (but not AMD) due to having a family member work there for a while, I really wonder (and am honestly curious) about how OBR was feeling when ATI WAS winning.

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Being someone in between myself, with a slight deference to ATI (but not AMD) due to having a family member work there for a while, I really wonder (and am honestly curious) about how OBR was feeling when ATI WAS winning.

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apparently that was when we were all stuck in the matrix.... ^^

To get back on topic, i think the 3870x2 is a decent offering, and i dont think anyone expected it to trump the 9800gx2, this is all fun and games until we have proper drivers publicly available so we can get a decent sample size of tests, rigs and comparisons, so i don't really know why its becoming such a personal thing. Let the performance speak for itself, and save the cat fighting for other flame ridden forums :)

I want to see some quad SLI vs 3870x2 Quad numbers!

And noticed the NV presentation said "rearchitectured drivers ... for 4 way AFR". Wonder if this will enable those with old 7950x2 to be usable again!

http://resources.vr-zone.com/newzhun.../1/guide10.png

WAIT A MINUTE... so quad SLi works in windows XP... but tri-sli only has drivers for vista!?! what.. i'm confused?

so can tri-sli work in xp yet?

If you look at the bottom of the presentation, it says Windows Vista only for Quad SLI. MS must have paid big bucks to not allow "more than" dual GPU operations under XP!

Nice results, now can someone please test it against the 8800GTX :D.

Does the NDA lift tomorrow ?

MS paid money so their own OS doesn't support something they don't want in? :shrug: :eek:

Jeez this got totally out of control... Peeps get too arroused by some super duper expensive hardware thingy.... guys it's a hobby not a lifestyle (although my wife thinks otherwise) We are human and each has it's own preferences , luckily otherwise everyone would chase the same woman lol...

Hopefully this expensive hardware will deliver tomorrow good results, otherwise another paperweight release to me...

Also take note guys that some peeps do not master english like most of you... Some can't read in between the lines and that's always dangerous as some get the wrong idea...

Can't wait till tomorrow , I love new toys...

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WAIT A MINUTE... so quad SLi works in windows XP... but tri-sli only has drivers for vista!?! what.. i'm confused?

so can tri-sli work in xp yet?

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look at the bottom of the picture:
"The OS framework required to support four frames in-flight only available in Windows Vista"

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Originally Posted by cegras

Being someone in between myself, with a slight deference to ATI (but not AMD) due to having a family member work there for a while, I really wonder (and am honestly curious) about how OBR was feeling when ATI WAS winning.

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So I'm not the only who have deference to ATI but absolutely not for AMD :yepp:

Looks like poor Quad SLI scaling in COD4.
1 GX2 at 2560x1600= 85FPS no AA or AF
2 GX2's at 2560x1600=80FPS 4xAA and 16xAF

If I remember right my 3 GTX's do better than that, seems they stayed over 100 FPS at all times.

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If you look at the bottom of the presentation, it says Windows Vista only for Quad SLI. MS must have paid big bucks to not allow "more than" dual GPU operations under XP!

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MS didn't pay anyone to not have more than 2GPUs work efficiently in XP. It's limitation of the OS.

Would two of these (quad SLI) work in 16x/8x board or do they require 16x/16x slots?

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Originally Posted by Family man 72

Would two of these (quad SLI) work in 16x/8x board or do they require 16x/16x slots?

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It probably would work. But if you can afford two of these things I think you can afford a 780i board...

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Originally Posted by BullGod

It probably would work. But if you can afford two of these things I think you can afford a 780i board...

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The problem is that we don't want a 780i board ;)

then get a 680i.. haha

GeForce 9800 GX2 with ForceWare 174.51
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/13...ion/index.html

Better now but still very close to HD 3870X2 with such diference in price and less software and hardware features.

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GeForce 9800 GX2 with ForceWare 174.51
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/13...ion/index.html

Better now but still very close to HD 3870X2 with such diference in price and less software and hardware features.

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You could say the same thing about the 8800GT against the 3870X2. Look at the benchmarks again, the 8800GT ain't that far off, in fact it even beats the 3870X2 in a few games.

It does appear to me that these dual GPU cards (from both ATI and nVidia) are overpriced and power sucking monstrosities that only show good scaling in certain games. :down:

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Originally Posted by Epsilon84

You could say the same thing about the 8800GT against the 3870X2. Look at the benchmarks again, the 8800GT ain't that far off, in fact it even beats the 3870X2 in a few games.

It does appear to me that these dual GPU cards (from both ATI and nVidia) are overpriced and power sucking monstrosities that only show good scaling in certain games. :down:

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Witch games 8800GT wins??
PT boats - HD 3870X2 wins by far far magin in avg and same minimun.
HL2- HD 3870X2 wins with almost 100% plus performance.
WIC- HD 3870X2 wins again by 10fps avg.
Enemy Territory- Quake Wars- Both equal.
Crysis- at 1920 resolution the HD 3870X2 don´t have bar.
Unreal Tournament 3- HD 3870X2 wins with almost 100% plus performance.

Ofcourse if you are expecting to play a 1280 with this card well, you are not understanding this because they must be compared at 1920*1200 resolution and the 8800GT at that resolution is simply crushed IMO.

If you state that HD 3870X2 is almost equal to 8800GT OC, I can state that HD 3650 is almost equal to 8800GT. Plain and simple....

can someone please test it against a 3870x2 with GDDR4? :(

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Witch games 8800GT wins??

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Not everyone games at ultra high res. I am looking at the overall picture, not just the high res performance. The only resolution the 3870X2 consistently beats the 8800GT is 1920x1200. This means the 3870X2 is really only good for gamers with 24"+ LCDs.

At 1600 x 1200 (which is close in pixel count to 1680 x 1050, a common 22" LCD resolution) the 8800GT performs just as well in most games.

This argument applies to both the 9800GX2 and 3870X2 as well, so don't think I'm just bashing your beloved ATI for the heck of it. ;) I think both cards are poor value unless, of course, you game at 1920 x 1200 or higher.

That review with the 174.51 driver is interesting. I don't understand some of their testing though.

1. Why test Crysis at medium? Who is there right mind would buy a $600 state of the art video card and run it at those settings. I want to see it run at high and ultra high with and without 2X AA. If it gets below 30 fps average, no big deal. At least we will know where it stands.

2. Why on earth are people still testing Half Life 2? Why would anyone buy a new $600 video card to boost yourself from 200 to 230 fps? That test is completely meaningless at this point. Older cards run it well already.

3. How about some more newer games that are demanding on the GPU? Dirt, Witcher, Call of Juarez, etc.

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Not everyone games at ultra high res. I am looking at the overall picture, not just the high res performance. The only resolution the 3870X2 consistently beats the 8800GT is 1920x1200. This means the 3870X2 is really only good for gamers with 24"+ LCDs.

At 1600 x 1200 (which is close in pixel count to 1680 x 1050, a common 22" LCD resolution) the 8800GT performs just as well in most games.

This argument applies to both the 9800GX2 and 3870X2 as well, so don't think I'm just bashing your beloved ATI for the heck of it. ;) I think both cards are poor value unless, of course, you game at 1920 x 1200 or higher.

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I agree :)

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Originally Posted by Scimitar

That review with the 174.51 driver is interesting. I don't understand some of their testing though.

1. Why test Crysis at medium? Who is there right mind would buy a $600 state of the art video card and run it at those settings. I want to see it run at high and ultra high with and without 2X AA. If it gets below 30 fps average, no big deal. At least we will know where it stands.

2. Why on earth are people still testing Half Life 2? Why would anyone buy a new $600 video card to boost yourself from 200 to 230 fps? That test is completely meaningless at this point. Older cards run it well already.

3. How about some more newer games that are demanding on the GPU? Dirt, Witcher, Call of Juarez, etc.

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Since we’re on the topic of Crysis, I took the time to test it at high detail for everyone. There’s a reason I don’t test Crysis at high. When you get an average of only 50FPS at 1920 x 1200 at medium, the performance is going to be too poor at high. So even if the card is 10FPS faster than the other cards, if the average is that low it’s not going to make a difference in terms of it becoming playable.

With that said, we get a very underwhelming 34.4 fps at 1920 x 1200 when set at high. When the numbers start coming up to a decent level we will move from medium to high, and then hopefully to very high; but I dare say that will be quite a ways away yet

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No one ever finishes reading these things :P they just look at the graphs and walk on by.

Part of the reason they test the same games over and over is that they already have scores from TONS of cards for those games. I would love to see testing with more modern games, but for a fair comparison a lot of the older cards would need to be re-benched which could be time consuming.

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Originally Posted by Epsilon84

Not everyone games at ultra high res. I am looking at the overall picture, not just the high res performance. The only resolution the 3870X2 consistently beats the 8800GT is 1920x1200. This means the 3870X2 is really only good for gamers with 24"+ LCDs.

At 1600 x 1200 (which is close in pixel count to 1680 x 1050, a common 22" LCD resolution) the 8800GT performs just as well in most games.

This argument applies to both the 9800GX2 and 3870X2 as well, so don't think I'm just bashing your beloved ATI for the heck of it. ;) I think both cards are poor value unless, of course, you game at 1920 x 1200 or higher.

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Um, that's pretty obvious conclusion, isn't it? Pairing a 3870X2 with 19" LCD's is like pairing an Ultra with a 19" LCD.

Dur. Considering the X2 is also close to twice the price of a GT as well.

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No one ever finishes reading these things :P they just look at the graphs and walk on by.

Part of the reason they test the same games over and over is that they already have scores from TONS of cards for those games. I would love to see testing with more modern games, but for a fair comparison a lot of the older cards would need to be re-benched which could be time consuming.

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I actually read the last page. If it gets 34 fps at 1920 X 1200, it would be even higher at the lower resolutions. My point still stands. A full test for all 3 resolutions at high settings would be a lot more relevant for gamers interested in this card. Current hardware runs in on medium settings just fine.

whens the NDA lifted and we can actually see them retial?

isn't it the 18th somewhere in the world right now???

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GeForce 9800 GX2 with ForceWare 174.51
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/13...ion/index.html

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GeForce 9800 GX2 with ForceWare 174.51


http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/461...2677751_rs.jpg

http://aycu35.webshots.com/image/469...1034678_rs.jpg

http://aycu27.webshots.com/image/463...5018400_rs.jpg

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/474...5261837_rs.jpg

http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/475...2130635_rs.jpg


http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/464...0311863_rs.jpg


http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/13...ion/index.html

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looks a litle better now :)



regards

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Um, that's pretty obvious conclusion, isn't it? Pairing a 3870X2 with 19" LCD's is like pairing an Ultra with a 19" LCD.

Dur. Considering the X2 is also close to twice the price of a GT as well.

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Who said anything about 19" LCDs?

I run a 22" 1680 x 1050 LCD. The 3870X2 and 9800GX2 would be a waste for me it appears.

to everyone saying "not everyone plays ultra high res" ... then don't even consider these cards.. i mean, thats kinda why they're made right? for people with HUGE resolutions... i couldnt live w/ anything smaller than 1920x1200... and i've just sold 2 8800gtx's and an 8800gt... so i'm in the market for something beefy, and having a hardtime on 3870x2 or 9800gx2

if the 9800gtx overclocks to 900core on stock vcore.. i may very well consider that if it stays below 400 dollars

I'm with you nosboost 30.

I'm on my 1920x1080p 37" FullHD LCD TV as my primary display and I need to know where these cards stack at the high end.

It's the high end guys who care about those high results. 1600x1200 or under guys have plenty of power with today's solution, except maybe crysis.

Those results posted by Mascaras, if true, makes the 3870x2 the value leader at 1920x1200. I wouldn't pay 200 bux more for 10 FPS improvement. For that money, I can add a single 3870 for Triple CFX action and get potentially more performance.

Someone needs to compare a $ to FPS ratio for a bang per buck list: 150, 200, 300, 400, 500 and 600.

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It's the high end guys who care about those high results. 1600x1200 or under guys have plenty of power with today's solution, except maybe crysis.

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I concur,keep testing 2560*1600 to show what the cards really can do and to eliminate cpu bottlenecks. High end cards should be tested at max resolution.

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whens the NDA lifted and we can actually see them retial?

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forsale in states but way to much,when you can get two gts512 cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...d&Order=PRICED

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forsale in states but way to much,when you can get two gts512 cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...d&Order=PRICED

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i need a uk shop and i have an x38 ;) so its either one 9800gtx / one 9800gx2 or two 3870x2 gddr4

GeForce 9800GX2 vs 9800GTX vs 9800GT full review out
http://publish.it168.com/2008/0315/20080315000601.shtml

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I concur,keep testing 2560*1600 to show what the cards really can do and to eliminate cpu bottlenecks. High end cards should be tested at max resolution.

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You are partially correct. In some cases 2560x1600 would use way too much memory (especially so with AA/AF) and would cause the data that used to fit into your graphics memory to fall into your system memory, and possibly into paged memory. This means that when you go over the GPU's onboard memory limit, each time your GPU needs to access that memory, it is bottlenecked by the memory interface (i.e. bringing data back to video memory). This can easily drop your framerate into the single digits.

So while you want to tax the card and make it as GPU bound as possible, you don't want to just naively turn all settings to max in *every* game for fear of memory issues hiding true GPU performance.

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GeForce 9800GX2 vs 9800GTX vs 9800GT full review out
http://publish.it168.com/2008/0315/20080315000601.shtml

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can i get some kind of translation? ive no clue where to click

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can i get some kind of translation? ive no clue where to click

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Try this:
http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=it&ie=UTF8

Man, I really wish these reviews would pit the 9800GX2 against the current 8800 GTX/Ultra so we can see just how much 'better' the GX2 is against the current top dogs. Who cares how it does against other new cards that aren't even available yet.

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Try this:
http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=it&ie=UTF8

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ta :D

GX2 so far crappy for its money :(

the gx2 is available on http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...=56&subid=1009

but lmao @ the prices. i'd rather get a 3870x2 and a 3870 for cheaper

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Try this:
http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=it&ie=UTF8

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3870x2 is second best card not bad :up:

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Man, I really wish these reviews would pit the 9800GX2 against the current 8800 GTX/Ultra so we can see just how much 'better' the GX2 is against the current top dogs. Who cares how it does against other new cards that aren't even available yet.

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I Hope also see some benchmark against Ultra & GTX , so i can decide buy the card or not

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3870x2 is second best card not bad :up:

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You guys never give up lol :clap: To me seems DX10 performance is still pretty buggy... not what I'm expecting at the moment... and yet again a review at only 3ghz...

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You guys never give up lol :clap: To me seems DX10 performance is still pretty buggy... not what I'm expecting at the moment... and yet again a review at only 3ghz...

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well have you read that review ? may be i am wrong but 3870x2 was after 9800gx2 don't know may be thats just me :rolleyes:

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GX2 so far crappy for its money :(

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Definitely. Just get two 8800gts 512 cards and SLI them. You'll get better performance and it'll be cheaper.

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BFG GeForce 9800 GX2 1024MB review


http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2...viewphpoh0.jpg


-> http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/512/

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Zotac GeForce 9800 GX2 1024MB review


http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9...parisonof0.jpg


-> http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Z...orce_9800_GX2/

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Matbe Review 9800GX2

http://www.matbe.com/articles/lire/7...-gx2/page1.php

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Originally Posted by eric66

well have you read that review ? may be i am wrong but 3870x2 was after 9800gx2 don't know may be thats just me :rolleyes:

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I wouldn't judge the cards on one review...as you will see within all the reviews Mascaras has collected that there will be many many contradictions... and totally different outcomes... time and drivers will tell the tale...

I just wanna see for the Intel based mobo's that they can run this card on it...and do some single card tests...

And to me 8800GTS 512 SLI is a more viable and cheaper option, if ya got the mobo ofcourse :)

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http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/512/

http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/geforc...2/page_4.shtml

http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/...orce_9800_GX2/

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/679/1/

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=535

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3266

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...mance_preview/

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==

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Matbe Review 9800GX2

http://www.matbe.com/articles/lire/7...-gx2/page1.php



9800GX2 Vs 8800GTS SLi and Also Quad-SLi




http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3...0068851cy0.png



http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/487...5244745_rs.jpg

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:up:

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=538

http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=592

so, we can pretty much ignore all the reviews that don't use 174.53 for xp? Atleast I will, seeing as I will never use Vista.

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the gx2 is available on http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...=56&subid=1009

but lmao @ the prices. i'd rather get a 3870x2 and a 3870 for cheaper

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Altho it's not in stock Scan has one listed for £387.73 - Palit 9800GX2 - Scan (UK)

There is another at £407.47 at CCL - BFG 9800GX2 - CCL (UK)

Hopefully the price will drop to sub £375 soon.

9800GX2 - Quad SLI vs 9800GTX --Tri -SLI.

I am using 2560 x1600 res , can anyone predict which path will be the winner??

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9800GX2 - Quad SLI vs 9800GTX --Tri -SLI.

I am using 2560 x1600 res , can anyone predict which path will be the winner??

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same problem here

i believe quad-sli will be slightly better than tri-sli
it is 4xG92 cores VS 3xG92 cores

but u should better wait until next week(9800GTX launch)

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Originally Posted by QuadSLI

9800GX2 - Quad SLI vs 9800GTX --Tri -SLI.

I am using 2560 x1600 res , can anyone predict which path will be the winner??

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Nvidia pockets?:D

Another review http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/xfx_9800gx2/

mascaras im not being funny so please dont take it this way and i do apreciate the links (so does everyone else) but its annoying when you make a post and then edit it later on... :( after ive seen a post i treat it as read so i dont usually look at it again but with you ill end up missing some info that i might need

This might be interesting :D

GPUreview.com overclock round up!
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1356/9800gx2ocsvp6.png

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Originally Posted by cptkoulis

same problem here

i believe quad-sli will be slightly better than tri-sli
it is 4xG92 cores VS 3xG92 cores

but u should better wait until next week(9800GTX launch)

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They need to release some 1GB cards for TriSLI/QuadSLI and CFX action at 2560x1600. Memory may kill performance as someone said earlier.

*just read anandtech's 9800GX2 review - maybe we don't need 1GB framebuffers, but would like to see a comparison*

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3266&p=1
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/13...ion/index.html
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/512/1/
http://sg.vr-zone.com/articles/Monst..._GX2/5656.html
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...mance_preview/
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/...00_gx2_review/
http://www.matbe.com/articles/lire/7...-gx2/page1.php
http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/geforc...2/page_4.shtml
http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/...orce_9800_GX2/
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/679/1/
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=535
http://publish.it168.com/2008/0315/20080315000603.shtml
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Z...orce_9800_GX2/
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=538
http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=592
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/xfx_9800gx2/
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=12294
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...raphics_card/1
http://www.it-review.net/article/har...GX2_PCX_review
http://www.clubic.com/article-129512...-790i-sli.html
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...ws/xfx9800gx2/
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...?cid=3&id=2513
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1251
http://www.presence-pc.com/tests/GeF...800-GX2-22765/
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,63...00_GX2/&page=1
http://www.mvktech.net/content/view/4047/48/1/0/
http://www.hartware.de/review_799.html
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/h...orce_9800_gx2/
http://en.expreview.com/2008/03/19/q...0gx2/#more-309

We @ expreview also done a review..the monster card is a 3870X2 Quad-CrossfireX smasher!

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We @ expreview also done a review..the monster card is a 3870X2 Quad-CrossfireX smasher!

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Doesnt seem like crossfire x is working very well you should do the test again with the next cat drivers.

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Originally Posted by cookerjc

We @ expreview also done a review..the monster card is a 3870X2 Quad-CrossfireX smasher!

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link?

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Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown

link?

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http://en.expreview.com/2008/03/19/q...0gx2/#more-309

The performance-leap just looks .... ZZZzzzZZZzzz...

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Originally Posted by clayton

The performance-leap just looks .... ZZZzzzZZZzzz...

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My sentiments exactly :yepp:

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Originally Posted by clayton

The performance-leap just looks .... ZZZzzzZZZzzz...

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For a single card?

Hardly. It a BIG leap in gaming performance for those of us running Intel Motherboards.

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link?

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sorry, forgot to mention, i updated the main thread...

and thanks, DeathReborn

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These things kick ass. Just got the WC 8800 GTX's off my bench and slapped one of the 9800 GX2's on. Blew me away.

XP-32bit, QX9650@ 4.125, Pat ram @ 1033, CAS 4

3DMark 05 benches for the 8800's: 1024x768=26360 and 2560x1600=20973
3DMark 05 benches for the 9800's: 1024x768=26942 and 2560x1600= 22236


That means this one single card just pimp handed my SLI'd GTX's. I was amazed. If and when they get the quad SLI hooked up, we'll really have something. And from what I'm reading they OC very well, over 700 on the GPU clocks.

One thing for sure though, they run hotter than Georgia asphalt. Peaked around around 85c with the 2560x1600 score, and I could hear the fans spin up pretty well.

Can't wait to get the other one on

nice,

andyc

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I am glad you are excited about your new finding, however, I can't find myself ever getting excited over 3DMark scores anymore. It's real life game play where it counts.

should i upgrade my 2 8800gtx's for a couple gx2's? how big is the perf gap?

DOH! :eek:
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8...igh1920qr5.gif

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DOH! :eek:
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8...igh1920qr5.gif

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one ultra beating the 9800GX2? lol! i know the drivers are new & all that - but i reckon that ^ is bs

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http://en.expreview.com/2008/03/19/q...0gx2/#more-309

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Very good review! GX2 vs 3870x2 vs 3870x2 CF!

I would like to see an update to this with 8800 GTS 512 SLI, 9800 GTX SLI, 9600 GT SLI and 9800 GTX TriSLI, when the 9800 GTX comes out.

Zzzz. That's just the point where it ran out of memory. From the same review.

http://techreport.com/r.x/geforce-98...-high-1920.gif

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The GX2's performance at 1920x1200 is matched only by two or three GeForce 8800 Ultras. That is, in technical terms, totally sweet. Personally, despite the seemingly low numbers, I'd consider Crysis playable at 1920x1200 and high quality on the GX2. The card is producing a 35 FPS average, but it rarely dips below that average, so it feels smooth enough. And I'm testing in a very intensive section of the game with lots of dense jungle. When you move elsewhere on the same map, frame rates can climb into the mid 40s or better.

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It falls apart on very high + 4aa simply because of the 528mb of memory vs. 768.

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9800GX2 - Quad SLI vs 9800GTX --Tri -SLI.

I am using 2560 x1600 res , can anyone predict which path will be the winner??

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http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=110056

can't run Crysis at that res:(
1920x1200 Very High Settings
4xAA/16xAF (forced in control panel)
8800 Ultra 3-Way SLI= 20.65FPS
9800GX2 Quad SLI= 30.26FPS

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Zzzz. That's just the point where it ran out of memory.
It falls apart on very high + 4aa simply because of the 528mb of memory vs. 768.

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This has been my complaint as soon as I found out the 9800GX2 and GTX were only 512MB instead of 768MB.
Running Crysis at high settings, with no AA, 1920x1200, in XP uses about 450MB of RAM.
However, when you use the same settings but use 4x AA, Crysis gobbles up 751MB in no time (see below).
In other words leave AA OFF on a 512MB card when running Crysis at 1920x1200 or your FPS will tank!

So for Crysis better to have more ram then... this game gives me the creeps as I assemble gaming rigs but for thsi game to run with medium to high detail you will need to pump in a beefy card... anyone have a link to a Crysis GPU review ?

Hardocp do Quad SLI

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==

Newegg has some nice $30-50 price drops on the 9800GX2 cards.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...iption=9800gx2