try ncix i was told they gonna get them verry soon eta monday-wednesday
i already ordered mine from there
try ncix i was told they gonna get them verry soon eta monday-wednesday
i already ordered mine from there
Hmm I'm a bit confused I was reading the manual and no xp 64 raid driver came in it no floppy disc where could I go about getting this floppy... do they even have xp 64 support :confused:
Oh wait main post was updated they do have drivers, however I do not see floppy disc raid drivers for xp 64... hmm I wonder if onboard raid will even help.
Just some basic pictures of the box and accessories inside
Front
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...I/IMG_0004.jpg
Back
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...I/IMG_0005.jpg
Lid Open
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...I/IMG_0006.jpg
Board
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...I/IMG_0007.jpg
Accessory Box
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...I/IMG_0011.jpg
Test Rig
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...I/IMG_0016.jpg
Didnt have a chance to play with it too much but did notice a few things
while setting up
1st the computer boots 8*333 @ 2664 instead of with 9*333
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...I/IMG_0022.jpg
Also the board seems to over-volt the cpu ( ill have pictures tonight so show)
I set the Vcore 1.41250 in bios and CPU-Z reads 1.4560 on idle and 1.44 on load
I do not have a multimeter so i do not know 100% if the board is over-volting or not
that is what i have observe through window programs
The board is giving me some trouble getting stable at 9*445
Will try to have more results tonight
I don't put much faith in software reported voltages. Time permitting I'll try to have scoped values of user adjustable settings posted by the middle of the coming week.
If your processor is known stable at 9x445 it may be the divider causing the issue.
Looks very nice, probably my future motherboard
By the way did any of you guys reapply TIM on NB,SB,PWM ? Lower temps?
When I'm looking at your picture lazy with gfx card, I'm wondering if you could fit a HR 03 + 120 mm fan between the gfx and northbridge in reverse.
Great pictures, thanks lazy. I love the fact that the NB cooler isn't mounted. Wish more mobo makers did that. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lazy
Cant wait to see some numbers, and performance benches :)
im a beginner at benches, so im open to suggestings on what you want tested
drools :)
i wanna see 550fsb+ with 7 multi
Sorry bro, now I'm feeling guilty. I don't want to spoil anyone's Christmas.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnClark
i'm sure you can get it @ ncix early next week john
but i'd order it asap if i were you
Not all hope is lost John :)
John, if it makes you feel any better I just got an email from MBP informing me that the board I thought I ordered isn't available after all. Stock counter must have been wrong. Rats.
oh that sux... sorry to hear thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Aivas47a
I ordered one already and would be shipped out from Germany at monday to me, But I dunno if I made the right choice...and could have better picked the DFI LP UT-T2R that has proven to be a sollid board already, I wont use Xfire probbly, I ques the reason I picked this x38 could be that I like to try new stuffs and be part of the x38 hype:D, Only things bugs me is the 4:5 divider prob that had been reported by Andre or Victor whoever tested the board:X, and this would be the divider I would use the most.... I dunno if this could be fixed , thats the main reason I started to hessitate, any thoughts? Aw and the P35 LP UT-T2R cost just 10 euro`s more over the X38 LP T2R
Other thing to mention, since the x38 produce more heat then the P35 and the x38 LP dont have the heatpipe, would the stock cooling be good enough or should i get the Thermalright ?
:Di too dont know if i made the right choiceQuote:
Originally Posted by mc2k
but i gotta say x38 alot stronger than p35 as long as we have a good bios
i honestly prefer it with no damn heatpipes northbridge was tranfering heat to southbridge when i tested x38-dq6"no good"
cooling everything seperatly is better i think
the p35 was 20$ cheaper than the x38 for me
if we get this board stable @ high fsb can be amazing:D
Oh well -- I'll just sit back and enjoy watching what you guys are able to do with the board. The DFI p35 lanparty board was a good one, hopefully this one will be even better. Enjoy! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by lazy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aivas47a
I wish you had received your board, Aivas. Sorry to hear that it fell through. I'm sure you were looking forward to it.
John
Yea idd,Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Quote from Lazy: I set the Vcore 1.41250 in bios and CPU-Z reads 1.4560 on idle and 1.44 on load
Did u enable Vcore control or sumtin, the option that is just like the Maximus ( loadline calibration),
hows on the P35 LP UT-T2R, vcore( vdroop) from idle to load?
whats with the glitter on the box??:ROTF:
Anyone already tried crossfire on this board?
Cheers....
i just want to point out that this thread has 2 stars and that needs fixing ;)
Yes i did enable this feature in the bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by mc2k
Just starting to run Orthos right now running at 445*9 right now
Vcore = 1.456 / FSB VVT = 1.45 / NB = 1.47 (Smart Guardian/CPU-Z reading)
Initially once the computer was booted into windows, CPU-Z reported Vcore @ 1.476 but once on load it dropped down to 1.456
Additionally FSB VVT was set to 1.46 but drops to 1.45 and NB set to 1.5 drops to 1.47 on smart guardian.
Once again these are readings from a windows program so i can not say it is 100% correct
It will probably take some time to get this set-up stable so i might just skip this stage for now and try for max fsb on air
Added my sta for it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
Hi,i am new here..
Just curios about few thing over here..
1.are the PCIE 2.0 om X38 board give more advatages on the P35 board ??
2. are the heatpipe that given by the P35 board show low temperature compare to this X38 board..? (correct me if i am wrong)
thank you for replying..
Could u please disable the vcore control feathure and try again if u see vdroop from idle to load, as on the p35 T2R, disable this feathure will, give u actually 0 vdrop and vdroop, according to some P35 T2R owners. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by lazy
Enable = enables the circuitry that controls the Intel specification vdroop, so you will get vdroop.
Disable = opposite to above.
Why does this thread have four stars? Six pages and nothing of relevance so far pertaining to the board. Most of the posts need to be deleted and the thread brought back on topic as to what the title suggests.
agreed, I vote for new thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
praz, you should just make a new thread and compile the info.with so much o.t. in this thread it makes it hard to get information.
Just got my board in yesterday.
Setup:
Q6600 G0
Patriot PC5300 LLK (2x1GB)
2 x HIS 2900Pro
Corsair 620HX
What I've found so far:
- This board has 2 floppy connectors to give extra voltage to the board vs. the one my P965-S had. Connecting only one of them made the board get stuck with a C1 error but no beep even with no RAM. Connecting both or none let me get past that.
- This board doesn't like my Patriot PC5300 LLK's any more than my P965-S :(
So I still have to boot with one stick, up the voltages, set timings, etc before putting in the second stick. 4 sticks errors on memtest at stock whereas I could get my P965-S to use them with a little work.
- There's a difference in what you set the RAM voltage to to what the BIOS reports it's set at. E.G. 1.904 in BIOS reads 1.84 in Hardware Monitor.
- Long video cards make it hard to change the RAM :(
- Upping the CPU voltage so far makes my computer go through a attempt-to-post - reboot - attempt-to-post loop.
- The 8-pin power cable is in the upper left corner, so don't put it in an Antec P180 unless you don't mind messy cables :D
So far I can only run the CPU at stock since I can't up the voltage or overclock much at all. Hopefully there will be some other Q6600 users with this board that can help me out.
EDIT: Figured out my problem. I'm currently at the same overclock I had with my P965-s with less voltage all around. Haven't tried for more, but will soon ;)
did you find max fsb lazy?
Yea wants some results:D
if i had my board i wouldnt be sleeping or havin sex for a few days lol
Im currently only testing on Air
Currently my max is 510 fsb, 510x7
Havent tried with a 6 multi
Will not boot at 520 even with voltage set at 1.6
Gonna have to see how far i can push this on water,
on my ip35pro max i have been able to push my cpu is 520fsb on water
so it may just be a limit on my cpu
on p35 i got cpu to 575 on x38-dq6 same cpu did 580 weird you got 520 wall on e6850Quote:
Originally Posted by lazy
this thread so quiet its makin me nervous goin to x38 instead of p35 lol
Consider how many ppl actually got the board and how immature the BIOS is, I don't know what some are expecting...
the shipping is soooo slow, ive had everything ready to test mine for a week now, but no board :(
Yea its almost as common as the DFI 790FX-M2R:D
I wouldn't bet too much money on the immature BIOS. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by koei
Easy..start a new thread and rename this one to offciail chit chat on DFI X38 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
Should have my DFI X38 LT end of week if I am lucky :D
Looking forward to some results. I might have time to actually get mine going tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Does this board have working ECC?
Got my board in today, and I've made another order from newegg for some parts. (ie. cpu and ram)
To give this thread some legitimacy, I guess I'll post the specs of the system I will be testing on first.
Hard Stuff:
Q6600
G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) DDR2 1000
DFI LP LT-x38 T2R
2 x Sapphire 3850 256mb (still waiting on my 3870 XXX edition)
WD Raptor 150
2x 74gb Raptors in Raid 0 for page file
Cooling:
D-Tek Fuzion w/ 3/8" (all is on 3/8)
MCR-320
MCP-355
3 Yate loon D12-SM12
Still testing but so far so good, my Q6600 is needing alot less Vcore than it did on my P5K-Deluxe. GSKILL 2x2GB modules are also running fine at 5:6 divider. I sorta copied the general settings from ppl in the LanParty P35 thread since I have no experience with the new DFI BIOS. The PWM area gets a bit toasty during small FFT prime, and some of the NB heat is contributing to higher CPU temp than my P5K. Gonna get a fan for the NB and see how much difference it makes.
Some more.
Really nice mobo, any sub zero results?
Regards
Hows the shipping Bios Please? If stable and good can you please back up a copy of the Bin File and send it to me?
do we need to fix the northbridge on our own? will dfi give us a thermal paste or something? btw that northbridge seems to blocking TRUE facing to ram slot..btw how cool is this northbridge is with stock cooling?
yes you put nb cooling on your own\Quote:
Originally Posted by intothefantasy
who cares for crappy thermal paste
you need a fan on nb to cool it properly
Is it a 60mm fan that fits on there? My mobo gets here this mornig and I plan on cutting out of work 4 hours early! I have a Vantec Stealth 60mm fan to go on it (hopefully), but am starting to wonder of it might be too thick to fit? It is a 60x25mm.
A 60x60x10 fan fits properly - something like the "NorthQ 3700"
DHL Tracking says my board will arrive today....yehhaa :D
It is very close, but it works:
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8751/cimg0327qb3.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8247/cimg0326ew2.jpg
@aehmkei..........How far over the edge of the board does that heatsink hang please?:up:
Hmmm, about 2,2 - 2,3cm
A 60mmx10mm? Crap, I don't have any that size. They are not very common, either. At least not ones that are relatively quiet. Well, I'll install everything this afternoon (it has been delivered to my doorstep at luch, still trying to ditch work!!!) without a fan and check temps. If they are acceptale, I'll leave it alone. If not, I'll have to find a fan...
Hand em a box of chocolates and tell em to piss off:D
u are going to put a small fan on the other side of the northbridge heatsink rite?Quote:
Originally Posted by aehmkei
Now that's a huge heatsink.:cool:
Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleDevil
I already tested under LN2.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=168743
Not good:
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5018/cimg0333oe0.jpg
1mm space left...:
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2252/cimg0343xp3.jpg
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/483/cimg0341lh1.jpg
optimized cooling for the voltage converters :)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1980/cimg0339vn5.jpg
for all you wondering about fans, I put the NB fan from my evga 680i (reference board design) on the clips and it works perfectly. Just pop it out of the bracket that it comes glued to.
Weird DFI makes a $296.00 mobo and only use non sufficiant paste on the NB and SB chipsets. I know they were thinking about those individuals who will use water cooling or their own Air Cooling setups, but what about those who wish to have the Stock setup and overclock just a wee little bit.
Basically i like to know how are the temps on the stock setup for the NB and SB chipsets?
Also is this mobo better then its P35 sister board, yes i know it has 2 x 16 PCIe slots and 2.0 specifiation, but thats not what i mean. Is it better for overclocking or comparable or just sucks.
It obviously runs hotter from what i gather from reading in the forums as the X38 chipset does run hotter then the P35 chipset.
I am not keen on running Crossfire as i have a 8800 GTS 320MB card Overclocked to 650/1450/1874 and if i make a move to another video card it will be a Dual GPU card whether it is made by ATI or Nvidia will be determined by the price per performance factor.
So far what i have been reading about this DFI X38 mobo is it is a pretty solid mobo, but there is not to many people who have the mobo right now and there is not any really good reviews of this mobo out yet.
I am kinda in a Ho Hum state on which motherboard to purchase when it comes to the P35 vs the X38.
I am also considering i know i know its taboo to state it in here in a DFI thread, but i am also considering the ASUS Maximus Formula X38 Mobo as it appears to be a very strong motherboard for overclocking Quad-Cores.
I wish to purchase a QX9450 yorkfield when they ever do arrive now in Feb-Mar next year. I already have purchased some PC2-8000 G.Skill 2x2GB = 4GB dual channel kit modules, so i know i will be fine for memory.
I am just really stuck on which mobo to purchase is all and will DFI continue to support these mobos bioes in the near future, like Mar-June next year or will they just dump a decent bios and leave us all to use any modded bioes that happen to come out, if they ever do.
Thks
Alright, it is up and running. It has one, huge, annoying bug so far and that is with the bios. Anytime I change a settings, and I mean any setting and reboot, it will not post. It does the usual Intel power up and down and back up, this I am used to. But, it never reposts. It is fairly easy to solve, I just hard power down for about 10 seconds and restart it and it posts, settings saved and all. Hopefully this can be addressed in a future bios update.
Second is the Areca ARC-1210 controller. It does work in the second pci-express X16 slot. But...only at 1X. It will not operate and 8x or even 4x. I put it in the upper 4x slot and all is well. I have 2 HD3850 512meg video cards arriving tomorrow (just have to try crossfire!), so the 4x slot won't bother me, considering it ran like that in my P35 mobo anyways.
More to come...
Quote:
Originally Posted by shawn1998
That reminds me of the Asus MVP-Deluxe motherboard which did not get corrected for about 4-5 bioes down the road. I do believe it is was issue with the Drive Strengh or D-Skew and who knows maybe this is a similar factor in this X38 bios right now.
I did read about this issue in another forum or thread maybe in here i can't remember, but they too had the same issue as you and yes turning the PC off and booting again solved the issue, but it is annoying if you have to change a few things in the bios and happen to have this issue all the time.
I haven't seen the reboot issue yet. Just guessing, I've probably been in and out of the BIOS a couple of hundred times now.
What I did for the time being is switch it to "mode 1" on restart. I know this isn't exactly recommended, but for minor changes, (ie enabling/disabling lan, onboard sound, boot order etc...) it seems alright. I have already made all the important changes (cpu speed, overclock, etc..) and am back to normal restarts and all is well.
I just installed and played COD4 for a few, just to test 3d stability and everything seems to be working just fine. So far, so good. Tomorrow will be the big test when I take out my 8800gt and install the 2 HD3850's.
Another side note, 8gig of G-Skill is working flawlessly in this board, as it did with the P35-TR2. Just wanted to throw that out there...
Quote:
Originally Posted by shawn1998
Very good to know the G.Skills are working flawlessly as i have the PC2-8000 2x2GB - 4GB kit, which i noted about in my previous post. I am just stuck on what mobo to purchase is all.
Come on ppl i want to see 8 x 500 and memory at 1000mhz if possible from these mobo's.
If anyone has had experience with this board and the Asus Maximus Formula SE, which do you prefer? I'm fed up with this 680i crap and need to know which of these two boards will get me the highest oc on my qx6700.
8*500 for the majority of the cpu is not possible..
i have a crap e6850 so i can only top out at 520 fsb
@shawn1998
I've been able to duplicate the issue you are seeing with no post by not supplying th NB with enough voltage. If you increase NB voltage with all other setting unchanged does it still happen?
How much should I increase the NB voltage by? I am running my Q6600 G0 @ 9x333 and the ram at 333/800 (= 2.99ghz and DDR2-800). I increased the ram voltage to 1.94 and am completely stable in games and such, so no issues there. The NB voltage as it stands is at stock.
Give me a ballpark figure, so I don;t screw anything up too bad. Thanks!!!
Shawn
Increase it one or two notches and see what happens. Isn't going to hurt anything. If that's the problem it may still hang on the first bootup. The chipset on this board requires a bit more voltage then the P35 did. Low NB voltage can also cause C1 errors depending on other settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by shawn1998
OK, I'll report back in a few...
I bumped it up .10 volts from stock and so far so good. I plan on installing those new 3840's tomorrow, so that will be the big test. But, looks as if that might have doen it. Thanks, Praz!!!
Your welcome. Hopefully that will take care of it. I think it's more of a memory divider issue with DDR2 then anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by shawn1998
I bet they just wait and release DDR3 only on the X48 - 2 months later than everyone else ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by lazy
Maybe so but in the end you just cant compare what you get from other brands to DFI in terms of raw stable overclocking power;)
thats why i waited for the dfi:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
hopefully i get mine friday :dammit:
been playing around with the board, put it into a water set-up but the rig will not boot 520fsb
on my ip35 pro i have been able to boot 520, but this will not boot at all no matter how much voltage i gave it..
Has anyone else tried to see how high they can push this?
Also its using coretemp its reporting 10+ degress on the temp, I remounted the wb twice so far and nothing has changed.
Hello, I am Italian boy... so don't blame my english please.
I ordered a Lanparty P35 Ut, but this morning the store called me telling that it was available only X38 Lt... so I have taken it.
I would be interested to know if there are any problems with memories Crucial Ballistix Pc8500 and psu Corsair Hx520.
And generally behaves as oc and vdrop compared to lanparty UT p35.
Thanks,
bye Andrea
Does anyone know which watercooler fits the nb and mosfets? Will the MCW30 fit ? And which one can i use for Mosfest, to be exact which board uses the same because there will be no coolers for this board atm since it's too new.
I Just ordered this set of coolers from Germany
http://www.mips-computer.de/
They will fit on P35 / X38 and probably also X48
The motherboard is out of stock so I'll have to wait..... But I think I will wait for the DDR3 version anyway.
PRJ
These Mips look fine, i already had one for my NF4 DFI Board, but they are damn expensive :(
Watercool got a new series of mainboard coolers, but i don't know which one would fit if any, since there are no DFI boards on they compatibiity list.
Yes they are damn expensive, actually a rip-off, but they fit like a glove.Quote:
Originally Posted by ic3m4n2005
Quality :up:
Price :down:
PRJ
tell it to the choir... I am a happy repeat DFIer. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
Well there is other boards in the market that compete against DFI and have done so in a very competitive way. Asus for one makes awesome mobos for overclocking and no one in this entire Forum can deny that.
I am a happy DFI/ASUS person and i have never had any major issues in overclocking any of my present or past builds with either of these two manufacurers.
Which is better?
This will be determined by what your overclocking and what bioes they are using. You will note that both compnaies in recent years are using a very similar Bios Layout and this is why they both can overclock very well. This is in the terms of the P35 and X38 mobos. In the past year or so Asus and DFI top dog mobo's have not been superceeded by any other company.
I am still stuck on which manufcaturer to go with and what chipset to buy.
My plan is to run this setup next:
Intel QX9450
G.Skill PC2-8000 2x2gb = 4GB Dual Channel Kit
As for mobo not sure yet, either the P35 from DFI or the X38 from DFI or the Maximus Formula X38 from Asus.
It is a very tough decision as all those mobos seem to be doing very well at overclocking, well the DFI X38 is still not mature enough to really consider right this minute, but my plan is in Feb-Mar when the lower GHZ Yorkfields start to appear.
Yes those two work fine but I would opt for the 620 watt from corsair:)Quote:
Originally Posted by johnp1983
does fdi like the silverstone zeus 650?
Asus makes some fine boards, that's a given. And it's to early to determine where Asus and DFI will be as far as performance concerning the X38 chipset. But if the DFI X38 follows the P35 it will be at the top once again. Almost without exception when reviewing an X38 board, its performance was judged against the DFI P35 because it was that good. From a pure performance standpoint the P35 has no equal. Running this board for the last couple of weeks I haven't seen anything that makes me think this board won't also be at the top of the performance ladder. If this performance increase is important in 24/7 use the individual will have to decide.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastNotro
The 850 Zeus works fine with DFI boards. I've not seen one issue with the 850.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
i personally use the Zeus 750 and no problem hereQuote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
I run a Thermaltake 650w Toughpower and it is a Solid PSU and i will be using it when i build my Yorkfield Quad-Core in Feb-Mar next year.
Now if i can figure what mobo to buy for my G.Skill PC2-8000 2x2gb = 4GB dual channel kit, i will be all set to go and wait untill the Yorkfield QX9450 arrives.
Just arrived, DFI LANParty LT X38-T2R :)
http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...LT_X38_001.JPG http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...LT_X38_008.JPG http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...LT_X38_012.JPG http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...LT_X38_015.JPG
http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...LT_X38_019.JPG http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...LT_X38_021.JPG http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...LT_X38_026.JPG http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...LT_X38_029.JPG
http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...LT_X38_031.JPG http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...LT_X38_040.JPG http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...LT_X38_047.JPG http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...LT_X38_048.JPG
Used Artic Cooling MX-2 thermal paste on northbridge and replaced SB and PWM heatsinks' thermal paste with MX-2 as well. Installing WinXP Pro SP2 right now :)
More results!
i guys, i can only find the lt version in dfi website, is the non lt version out?
Which is better lt or non lt?
Are far as we all know there is no such thing as the non LT version.
non lt was scrappedQuote:
Originally Posted by japanese
Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
From the man who did a very decent study on the G.Skill PC2-8000 4GB dual channel memory Kit is now going to show us what this mobo can really offer us all.
Do some tests with that memory at different timings and if you have a Quad-Core lying around can ya try 8 x 480 or 8 x 450 and get that RAM up to at least 1066-1100 that would ROCK.
P.S
Its the max Stability is what i am looking for as when i get a Quad-Core Yorkfield QX9450 we all know they will be about 15-20% faster and about 10-20C cooler then the QX6600 is.
Thks
The DFI X38 LT cd-rom lists both a UT and LT version label so maybe there is 2 versions ?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastNotro
Oh i think he was asking about a lower model then the LT which there is no such mobo, in which i answered about.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
It is rurmored DFI has scraped the UT version of this motherboard and are working on their X48 mobo series now.
To be sure call DFI and see if they are still making the UT version.