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Costing 274,95€ in Portugal:D
will they work with Asus P5B Deluxe motherboards
Asus has been slack as usual and not released another bios update since 1101 in early April :rolleyes:
i thought theres newer betas no?
i created a thread and bing just linked the latest beta which has support for G0 microcodesQuote:
Originally Posted by ziddey
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...P/P5BD1212.zip
My E6850 has now finally shipped :) I should have it on Thursday, with a bit of luck already tomorrow. I dont want to advertise here, but before people ask again, i have ordered from www.comtech.de but i dont advise anyone else to order there. They seem to be very sucky, and only shipped mine after a few threatening emails... long story. And now they dont have any left in stock. It says expected July 13th.
omg.. that price is unbelieveable..
Which price? 274€ in Portugal? I paid 279€ for mine now, cheapest on preorder is 254€ here, but gets in stock 2+ weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by dpa
looks like some aussies stores are already getting stock and shipping out :D >> we are improving :D....we used to get things last and look at us now :D
very limited quantities available however.
As long as i get mine i dont care :DQuote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
true true but it goes to say if you are REALLY keen to get one you will get one from first batchQuote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
don't forget also that Intel's best CPUs batches come early...... :D
AndreYang where r u?
This is the only retail G0 hyped chip I've seen posted anywhere. Yet still no screen shots of 4 Ghz 12 hours prime. I plannedd to grab a G0 Q600, but it's starting to seem like hype again. My current Q6600 will do 3.3GHZ on air. If I can pull of 3.6Ghz on water, there may be no need for a G0 after all.
Some Portuguese result's on a retail chip:D
3.6Ghz@stock vcore@1.32V
http://www.f13pc.pt/~imgs/AlfaBoy/E6...202xspi32m.PNG
4Ghz
http://www.f13pc.pt/~imgs/AlfaBoy/E6...20SPI%201M.PNG
less then 1.6V
http://www.f13pc.pt/~imgs/AlfaBoy/E6850/4166.PNG
SS
http://www.f13pc.pt/~imgs/AlfaBoy/E6850/cpu-4216.png
Looks like my itch to upgrade came just in time, any idea when these are hitting US? I must get my hands on the first batch :D
Okay this may be inappropriate, but this is my current $299 Fry's CPU Mobo Combo Q6600 @1.43v bios 1.37v load, DFI P965-S, Tuniq Tower. I wanna see 3.6-3.8ghz 1.35v-1.4v 12 hours orthos & 4+ GHZ 3DMark06 & PC Mark05 or I'm simply not gonna be impressed.
3.6 Ghz 1 Mb Pi 3-3-3-10 OCZ Titanium Alpha 8000 DDR2-800 2.3v
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/2...itannu9.th.jpg
3.6 Ghz 1 Mb Pi 4-3-3-9 OCZ Titanium Alpha 8000 DDR2-800 2.3v
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5...taniog5.th.jpg
3.6 Ghz 1 Mb Pi 5-4-4-9 OCZ Titanium Alpha 8000 DDR2-1200 2.42v
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/4...tanihb5.th.jpg
3.6 Ghz 1 Mb Pi 5-5-5-15 OCZ Titanium Alpha 8000 DDR2-1200 2.3v
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/7...itanup8.th.jpg
3.6 Ghz 32 Mb Pi 3-3-3-10 OCZ Titanium Alpha 8000 DDR2-800 2.3v
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8...titakc3.th.jpg
3.6 Ghz 32Mb Pi 4-3-3-9 OCZ Titanium Alpha 8000 DDR2-800 2.3v
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9...itanig6.th.jpg
3.6 Ghz 32 Mb Pi 5-5-5-15 OCZ Titanium Alpha 8000 DDR2-1200 2.3v
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5...titakp8.th.jpg
12 hours Prime 3.3Ghz
http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/9...7vdrnl7.th.jpg
The newer Q6600 will clock just like the old ones i think.... Even if they give it a G0 stepping, I doubt that they will clock anywhere clocse to the E6X50 cpus just because it wouldnt make sense for Intel to do so.... As we all know, the 1066fsb cpus are faster clock per clock and if the $266 Q6600 clocks as well as the 1333fsb G0, then it makes it a better cpu than even the Q6850 ( $999 )..... Since its the same price as the E6850, it has to have some drawback to make the E6850 competitive....Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
I know overclockers is a small segment in Intels market but they are aware of this fact..... Just imagine what an E4300 with 4mb cache and no fsb wall will do to the E6600 market, and thats not even considering theres no diff in speed between 800fsb and 1066fsb cpus.....
These new cpus are nice clockers but unless I see them doing 600fsb+ without a sweat then Ill stick to my E6600 .... Im sure she can still Orthos at 4ghz :D
could somebody delete all those posts with the word "subscribed" in them? They're close to together and worthless.
Are the early G0s really going to be better than the later ones :rolleyes:
3.6 at 1.32v is verrry good.
early steppings are usually ones which haven not been binned as agressively hence the likelihood of them Ocing higher on average than later revisionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Machinus
so you are saying that later batches get worse?:confused:
or that you are more likely to get a good oc chip in an early batch 6750 or 6550...?
due to "non-aggressive" binning (sees a bin with a growly mouth on it :lol:)
umart emailed me to say they have shipped mine ...whacky doo. :cool:
Look what just came in.
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/...2_CIMG0043.JPG http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/...4_CIMG0048.JPG
Felt like i've been waiting months now, now it's better than christmas and a bj :D
Gimme a bit to apply some paste and run the first few benches.
Edit: First quick try @ 9x370 = 3.3 GHz, RAM @ 920:
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/...3ghzddr920.jpg
Edit2: My current max on air: 3.82 GHz 9x425, vCore 1.4750, RAM @ 850 1:1 2.10v
I know the CoreTemp readings are wrong, think i am reaching ~60° already, dont want to go
much higher with the vCore at the moment.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2...r850do3.th.jpg
OMFG! Beautiful! Does that mean 4ghz+ with proper cooling? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by gLk*zaP
I sure hope so :) I will try to get higher again later today. Also my thermal paste hasnt dried in yet. Being a bit careful with the temp.Quote:
Originally Posted by DShankar
This e6850 will be welcome in my P5K-VM!!! :up:
Hmmm only ~ $380AU :eek:
Indeed:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by pvhk
Gah, none have hit Indian shores yet! Lol.
I just noticed that it does 3.6 ghz withouth any tweaking :) This is one nice cpu.
Everything set to default/auto, RAM 1:1 800MHz, vCore Auto:
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/2...kddrln2.th.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
1212 bios for p5b. Takes care of GO stepping.
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...P/P5BD1212.zip
1212 bios for p5b deluxe. Need it for GO stepping.
dont set the vcore to auto.
i dont know if the p5k does the same like p5b, but my p5b will raise the vcore itself, if i set it to auto and raise the fsb.
maybe you can upload a pic with asus pc probe?
thanks for sharing ;)
I guess I'm gonna have to run to Fry's and get one of these chips when they are available. Doesn't seem anyone is really gonna test what they can do. Though 3.6Ghz auto vcore 1Mb pi is impressive, it's nothing new. All my L6XXB chips can do that. One is currently in a P5K-VM, installed in the silverstone SG03, cooled by the silverstone NT06 (fan removed airflow provided by OCZ GameXtreem PSU), & running orthos @ 425 x 8 auto vcore which is 1.30v @load. I want to see orhtos/prime for at least 4 hours to be impressed & 12 to be convinced. 3.8-4Ghz orthos/prime please, otherwise it's just a b chip with lower tdp.
Sorry if my posted results are not as impressive as people here are used to. But i am just getting myself started in OC'ing at all, give me a day or two :) I know 3.6 with vCore auto isnt OMG, but i just noticed it, because without any extra work, 600mhz extra isnt that bad already for most standard users.
For oanvoanc:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1959/snap1mz1.th.jpg
Bios is set to 1.500v atm, of course i dont use auto vCore normally. CPU-Z and PC Probe show the same in windows, even with Voltage Damper
enabled, there is still some vdroop.
Your results are nice, I think most of us are hanging on the edge waiting for some 4Ghz prime/orthos stability. Thast's what the G0 stepping has been rumored to do thus peeking most our inerest. Last year we were shown lots of 4Ghz Pi & 3DMark sreenshoots before the core 2 duo was released. I was disappoineted when my first E6600 would only do 3.2ghz 12 hours orthos/prime stable @1.5vcore 1.464v@load. I just don't want that expirence again between ES & retail.Quote:
Originally Posted by gLk*zaP
I know everyone wants ~4ghz and especially some proven stability, but i dont even have the cpu for 12 hours hehe. And i understand your opinion. Give me a bit more time to play around, i hope i can do 4.0 stable, but at the moment it doesnt look like it. Also my current RAM is holding me back a bit.
3.92ghz @ 1.5625v
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7...8011kz0.th.jpg
+1!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
I'm running out of ideas on how to make a better thermal interface between my block and cpu. A cooler running cpu might just fix that, lol.
QFT! So...when are we going to be able to get these? I'm willing to give one a go under water.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
@gLk*zaP Your results are nice. Well done! :up:
Anyone with a P5B Dlx + E6x50 G0 CPU ?
Can't agree more. There are 3 voltage settings that should always be set manually the first time you boot into bios after setting defaults: vcore, vdimm, and FSB voltage. For the first 2 determine what the manufacturer suggest for stock operation and for FSB (there are several terms used by different mobo manufacturers) I always set to the lowest setting that is not auto. Then adjust from there as your OC increases. It is important to take control of these settings away from the bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by oanvoanc
...well
tried e6850 in striker.. doesnt boot into bios
tried 1102; 1202; 1004....bummer.
in order to change bios i have to flick back to 4300 cpu...its getting a bit tedious....:shakes:
have you looked at latest beta bioses from striker
i will; after a coffee...
1301 is the only 1 left to try.
Check this link:Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...ker%20Extreme/
Is that file SE1301.zip a BIOS for your Striker? It might be what you're looking for.
most people would start with the latest bios first you'd think :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
Just ordered a e6750 which will come 278.46AUD delivered tomorrow :up: need a new bios though - tried the 1202 bios and it doesn't restart after bios changes :down: I think a 1203 is around somewhere .....Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
Also - I'm hoping dinos22 is right - saving the dosh is lieu that my 6750 will be more like a 6850; suppose I can only dream until I strap on my fuzion block :D :D Can't wait :D :D
OK...does it work? I was planning on putting mine in my Striker so I really hope 1301 one works for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
[...impatiently pacing the floor waiting for results]
you can always view the bios files and find these microcodes for G0 CPUs :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ShoNuff
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...83&postcount=3
According to the post here the bios has been update to support new processors among other things. Let's hope new = E68X0 support. :D
1301
----------------------
1. Update CPU uCode to support new processors
2. Enhance memory compatibility under full load (4 DIMM)
3. Revise Q-Fan control code
4. Fix system fail to resume from S3 mode via PS/2 keyboard
5. Update NV RAID ROM to 6.9802.
6. Add microcode not found & update fail message support
7. Finetune CPU fan speed too low warning range
8. Use new French translation
9. Modify General Help string.
10.Fixed floppy item value error.
11.Use new Simplified Chinese translation.
12.Use new Japanese translation.
13.Support post message in Japanese
14.Use new German translation.
15.Fixed incorrect CPU Vcore when set to above 1.60V
i was in a 3 hr fricken meeting believe it or not...
have made the bios disk
have had a coffee.
now unfastening tuniq again....
^ And ???? :D
looking good so far. with the overclocking of the E6850 :D
well; it's just like the other ones...mine is stuck on "pciinit" error...as were all the other bioses i tried.
pulled everything out of the board and tried to boot...
put evrything back in...it gets past the detram message soo i presume the 1 stick of ram is not the problem.
i think the board is incompatible
mine is a strikerE-QQ 03/05/2007...maybe its the rev of the board...dont know how many revs of striker extreme there are? ah, mine is marked rev 1.00G...bummer.
...i havent tried 0701 or 0901 bioses - both of which were "supposed" to add 1333 fsb 'functionality'
i could be missing something...but i have no clue as to what to do next...
besides trying a p5k :doh:
so who wants an untested 6850 ? (joking)
i could have a doa chip...
the mobo must be fine because ive booted it umpteen times with the 4300...
but with 6850...NO BIOS screen (or post)
but ; i did get a posting screen with 1202...but it would not enter the bios when i hit del....it just hung....and i got a cmos error message .....which is why i thought to try different bioses. :shrug:
well that'll learn me for getting things i dont really need....
mmm might have to sell it and get a quad core kentsfield after all that....but that's just silly.
Very sorry to hear that adamsleath :(
I will redo the thermal paste on mine now, remove the liquidmetal stuff, and go
back to arctic silver 5. With 1.6v yesterday i was getting ~80°, which doesnt feel good.
thx; me too.
what's with the liquid metal - i thought it was good?
It was a pita to put on, doesnt work so great with a q-tip imho. I guess real pro's can put it on just fine, but i guess i used too much of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
Now getting way too high temps. Also doesnt help much not it seems no software at all can read my exact temps.
Will try to get it removed with some cleaning alcohol and such cleaning pads for glasses.
mmm not so easy to apply it seems.
@adamsleath - That's not cool that the processor doesn't work. I was hoping with a new bios and a bios reset that the processor would work? This is strange b/c it should be compatible. If I come across something that I think well help I will be sure to let you know.
@pLk*zaP - I "borrowed" my wife's make up brush to apply the Liquid Metal Pro. It is a very small brush with angled bristles. I imagine a small paint brush would work as well.
Got no wife i could borrow from :) But i got it done. I applied tons of ArctiClean 1+2 (some special stuff to remove thermal paste).Quote:
Originally Posted by ShoNuff
At first it seemed it doesnt do anything to the liquidmetal, but after a did that over and over again, i got it. Now applied Arctic Silver 5,
and letting orthos run on stock for a few hours, to "dry it in". My temps still seem to be very weird. Stock load 63° in TAT, tjunction in CoreTemp 85°.
Any ideas why that is? I cant believe those are true. At the moment i have my case open, and a desk fan blowing at it too.
what do you mean by wierd?
if you think you are getting 'fluctuating' temps from the cpu i'd ease back on the volts.
Getting 25° idle at the moment, isnt that way to low to be true? Using TAT and SpeedFan, both show it this low.
Then again, when i oc up to 3.6ghz, i already reach 80° on both cores, running orthos.
When i see other peoples screens, they are below 70° usually, under load. I guess i really need a new cooler soon,
as much as i like the Noctua with the 2x 120mm fans, it doesnt cool so much, its just quiet it seems.
@ adamsleath - 6750 works fine with 1301 ....... maybe you got a dud chip, can you try another or re-flash the bios again?
36C after 25 mins of orthos & MB temp @ 32C all at stock. :clap:
Nice n' cool -
Now to get my 8500 ballistix running @ 1:1 and let the AS5 bed in a bit .......
ok thx.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ambro
clear the cmos as well properly
i had cleared the cmos etc...thx for the helpful comments ;)
it turned out to be the motherboard....
i may have damaged the nb chip
i have p5k vanilla now 0603bios. :rolleyes:
and both my old 4300 and the new 6850 are
okely dokely it seems....not sure if i damaged either chip with the 'faulty' striker ...need to run full tests b4 i know for sure.
a fool and their money...
i just didnt think the new chip was bad...so that left the mobo as the culprit.
i've removed the cmos battery...strikkkker
I know this is a 6850 thread but anyway...
6750 running 3.2G (2.66 stock) max temp 45C after 2 1/2 hours of orthos. Mind you I haven't had the need to turn the heating on in the room ...
I have a good feeling this chip can take a whole lot more but I'll set it up on 3.2G for a week to see how it runs in the real world.
@adamsleath - sorry to hear, I like these boards too for some reason :shrug:
very nice results @ acceptable vcore
Looking forward to your results with that e6750 :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ambro
Hey adamsleath those damn POS 680i boards are all buggy IMO and when you have a crap chipset + Anus your only asking for trouble :yepp: :D
yeah well i got another anus lol
it was either the anus p5k or the gigacrap ds3r or abit'ocrap 35polypropylene...:hehe: i hope i dont kill this one :yawn:
my temps are very low for idle at 3.0 ghz
speedstep and all that jazz disabled....
11-13c coretemp .95 &.94(20c ambient...wtf?)well 1.26v soo...but readings cant be right....
trying orthos...dual instances at 22c....i dont think so...
cpuz is reading 3.000ghz 333x9...anyway id say its cool at such low vcore.
fan blowing over the ram and nb.. no oc yet...but its damn coool.
1.32v at 400x8 dual orthos running....28c now at 10minutes ...fan on nb is good it is barely luke warm....i like it already. 1:1 800 ram 2t. 20c ambient.
finally a chip the tuniq can handle.
:)
20 minutes 30c
ill take it in steps 3.4 then 3.6 then 3.8
bring on the yorkfield teehee.
I have redone my cooling today a bit, now taking it slowly and more careful.
3.52 ghz at 1.425v for a few hours now stable with orthos, 70° on the cores tho.
adamsleath: i had those crazy low temps in the first few hours too, dunno why.
They dissappeared after a while :( Now i have 28-30 idle, with ~23 ambient.
good to know; so i dont freak out when it happens to me.
ive gotta call ms or get a vista upgrade for activation..dang....or find another dodgy key :rolleyes:
Coretemp just plain sucks at times. The only way you can make sure it's calibrated correctly against actual is to have a good digi-probe thermometer against your long unplugged system. You would have previously set your vcore and cpu speed to as low as possible that allows you to get into bios (ie, my opty would be 0.950 and 800mhz). Once you immediately get into bios you check it's temp against your probe, should be the same. Unplug the system and after an hour or more reboot, go into windows and immediately run coretemp. If coretemp reports lower than the probe (ambient) then coretemp simply is off. I've notice many times on different systems that coretemp has often reported lower than ambient, even when my vcore was at stock. It's good sometimes but can be buggy at other times. My feeling is that it 'seems' the get fairly acurate once the temps get above 40c (at least according to various trials I've done using a extremely small thermistor against the naked die).
Yup, I've seen newest CoreTemp give way too low temps, at the minimum of 8ºC inaccuracy.
Quote:
Originally Posted by luihed
G0 is worlds better than B2, please dont make stuff up.
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by irev210
q6600 g0 will be harder than dual core counterpart is that probability goes down since there's two chips (multiplicative factor or whatever its called), and that it'd require heavier duty power delivery --> vtt.
otherwise, it's still a g0 and still worlds better on average than b3 quad cores and b2 dual's.
My E6850 1.45v out of the box first try is @ 4GB,just testing with ORTHOS.
My retail E6750,
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1207
4Ghz (4GB?) Orthos on water...looking forward to your results!Quote:
Originally Posted by clone38
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacClipper
MacClipper what memory are you using with this ?
Hey where did you get your chip from? I can't find them in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by clone38
BTW nice chip :)
Want one chip to in europe =)
Decided to spin off and list the specs here to keep this thread clean and for E6850s,Quote:
Originally Posted by IBSGuy
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=151571
coretemp inaccuracies aside, the temp on the chip (6850) must be cool because i notice very little by way of warmth when touching the tuniq's copper base during orthos....so suffice to say it runs cool.
my old 6700 b1 wood heat up considerably to the touch....ctemps@ idle @20c about 42c@3.4 & the heat would radiate :hehe:
Yes but thats whats so weird. Using RMClock i´ve seen my E6850 start to throttle when it reaches 82° on the cores.
A bit higher, and the system resets. And thats just with 1.50-1.55 vcore. I cant run orthos or TAT because ot the heat.
System is stable for everything else, playing games, watching hdtv movies.
Would be normal if i actually would reach 82°, but when i put my finger on my heatsink, it is totally cool, not even really warm.
yep cant get any heat from my heatsink :hehe: :shrug:
running orthos now at 424x9...@ 1.39/1.35v droop
3.8 piece of piss :cool:
Anyone with a E6x50 G0 CPU on a P5B Deluxe ?
My reatail E6850 is at home ... will test it soon ...
I have kinda given up on reaching 4ghz on air with my E6850.
Redone the thermal paste and the whole airflow yesterday, now my temps are ok.
~30° idle, ~65° under orthos load, with ambient temp ~27°.
But i cant get higher than 3.52ghz with 1.5v vCore, and get orthos to run stable.
So i see the reason i cant go any higher on the FSB more in the vCore than the temps.
If i go any higher on the voltage, the system still boots, and i can run superpi and
play games, but its not orthos stable, getting an error after just a few seconds.
I guess my personal E6850 isnt one of those who like higher vCore much then,
but i am still very happy with it. Even at stock it performs very good. I love it :)
Will leave it 24/7 on 3.40 ghz with only 1.35v now, with speedstep etc enabled. More than good enough for me.
E6850ES L710XXXX
Asus P5K Deluxe
2*1GB OCZ PC9200 1.150 Mhz 5-5-5-15
8800GTX
1000 Watt Enermax Galaxy DXX
Bigtyphoon + FM121
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/949/4200hr4.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9416/1m4155pp2.jpg
3.800mhz Orthos vc=1.53
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5277/orthos38jg6.jpg
E6850ES L710XXXX
Asus P5K Deluxe
2*1GB OCZ PC9200 1.150 Mhz 5-5-5-15
8800GTX
1000 Watt Enermax Galaxy DXX
Bigtyphoon + FM121
4.100 Mhz 32m
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/7651/32m41mx3.jpg
wow asefik, your temps are really good for haivng such a high vcore. will that be ok to run 24/7 with such a high vcore?
What can you guys get at default voltage?
1.53 is high. I wouldnt go any higher then 1.5 for 24.7 use.
3.600 Mhz 24/7 vcore=1.40 this is ok?
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4653/orthos36rl6.jpg
1.4V should be fine for 24/7 use.
i can run 485x7 at "default" - which with my mobo/bios is 1.33/1.3v droop asus probe.
3.6 and up needs more v.
why is your temps higher @ a lower vcore
...actually default on this mobo is about 1.24v in bios... which gets me to about 3.2/3.33
i set 1.425 for 1.33 in probe for a "low" vcore.
bios temp for 1.5v idle is 35C
bios temp for 1.33v idle is .....29C @20c ambient.
i havent really tested the limits of this chip; and i never will either...:lol:
@kimandsally.....Dude you're cat looks just exactly like my cat Marshall ...wow!