hehehe.. I'm being sarcastic.. :) sorry my bad.. :)
DFI is COMPATIBLE with Silverstone OP650 :) heheh that is my psu.. :)
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hehehe.. I'm being sarcastic.. :) sorry my bad.. :)
DFI is COMPATIBLE with Silverstone OP650 :) heheh that is my psu.. :)
Most of the people will probably be stuck at 500FSB - 550FSB with this board too.
This is not motherboard but a cpu related "issue".
FSB this high takes alot from the cpu too and most of the current B-stepping chips are limited to 550FSB max.
Most of the worst cpus I tested did 520FSB - 533FSB and some of the better 550FSB (in the same motherboard). The best chip I have personally seen is my old E6600 (L630A).
It did 570FSB without any problems all day long, but 575FSB locked immediately.
There are few things that can limit the FSB capabilities of a cpu.
GTLREF voltages - Without the rework (either by you or the manufacturer) this is always the biggest reason on Kentsfield, rarely on Conroe.
CPU Internal FSB PLL voltage - As far as I know there are only few motherboards that are able to adjust this voltage. In my case adjusting this voltage gave additional 25FSB (570FSB -> 595FSB) boost in the maximum benchable FSB ;)
I´ll bet that Oskar has played around with this one too to make the cpu reach 632FSB :D
I did not even search the optimal "window" I just raised the voltage a bit.
The stock voltage is 1.5V and it can be adjusted on Asus P5K-series boards and most likely on LanParty X38-T2R & P35-T2R too :D
On Asus boards this voltage is labeled as "CPU PLL Voltage".
This voltage can be adjusted between 1.5V - 1.8V on P5K Deluxe and set either to 1.5V or 1.7V on P5K Vanilla.
NOTE: This voltage is tied with the SB voltage on Asus boards so you must enhance SB cooling before raising this voltage!
great news, Oskar updated, 640fsb done.
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1182414193_0.jpg
:clap: :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
woah :shocked:
7x640fsb :eek2:
very nice Oskar.. :clap: :clap: :clap:
he is working overtime.. showing what he can do.. :)
that means this board should be out soon right? please, please!
Am using the original OCZ Powerstream 520w Single Rail with DFI Dark and it squeals even @ STOCK mobo + cpu + ram settings. It makes a variable squeak when I scroll up and down in Internet Explorer..... :D
Because of this, I have not updated my Sig and my H2o build is on hold..... :(
Most P35 motherboards can do 600+ FSB as wel as 965 i think. It is cpu. Cold helps a lot. I gained about 35mhz with same settings going from air to stock mach II. I bet Oskar is using something wayyy colder :D
Nice board though ill get one as soon as they are available overhere...
he's using a cascade.Quote:
Originally Posted by loc.o
any info when the board will be buyable ?
DFI si the only company that shows results in their labs that normal retail mobos can reachQuote:
Originally Posted by OBR
hell even my 6600 do squealQuote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
thanks for the very good info, i always hated the sillyg looking + bad perfroming heatpipe solution ASUS and GB is usingQuote:
Originally Posted by VictorWang
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by Lome
and they consider themselves Xtremes
:shocked: 640*7 stable SPI32M :eek: nice CPU and mobo ;)
Nice OC VictorWang
does this DFI P35 T2R Lanparty chart leave when?
Great post, useful info FTW!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
:up:
What the max vdimm/vMCH/vcore/vFSB it is on this board (DFI LP T2R P35) ???
Please :)
AFAIK, I think the only real wait atm is the cooling solution. Perhaps a month minimum is getting somewhere towards realistic, AFAIK no sample boards have gone out yet for beta testing. Though it seems things are progressing quite well...
The images you see are direct from DFI, I guess voltage ranges will go up when sample boards go out to the testers, so it's a little early atm. I would expect plenty of overhead, as in most Lanparty boards..
regards
Raja
Will there ever be a time when DFI isn't the last manufacturer on the block to come up with a mobo solution when new chipsets come out? Every single time DFI is always the Johnnycomelate of the mobo world. It is very frustrating :shakes:
Only fools rush in...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tibu
well abit was really bad before also .... but that was before ppl even knew that dfi exists, before they started making enthusaist boards .....hmmmm come to think of it maby its Oscars fault that abit was and dfi is now late :) hehehe jk
[sarcasm]Quote:
Originally Posted by stealthbomber
Yeah I guess that's why ASUS and Gigabyte are always first to the party. Because they are fools and they rush things and we end with crap... right. :rolleyes:
[/sarcasm]
The fools here are the consumers ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tibu
wth you talkin bout son asus is crap
my p5w-dh deluxe lit on fire and asus said its my fault still siting in a box .... asus is Crap
Apologies if it sounds negative, just trying to give some constructive criticism here. The thing is by the time samples have been sent out etc it's looking like September at the earliest for release pure speculation of course, by which time Asus, Gigabyte, Abit will be launching the X-38 Motherboards, DFI need to be quicker otherwise the people who don't preach each day to DFI will purchase whichever boards are available first regardless of which boards come out as King of the Overclockers & thus DFI miss out on huge sales. Of course this is all irrelavant on here as it's an xtreme enthusiast forum & dedicated to overclocking etc.
Does DFI come under a Tier 1 motherboard manufacturer?
I must have been extremely lucky with my DFI P965-S? Worked out of the box with an E6600 and Corsair 520W. And the BIOS was almost optimally configured already - it's like it did most of the tweaking for me. No squealing issue, either. Performance is fantastic and I like the all aluminum caps, too. Finally a chance to retire my Opteron rig, which was also built on DFI board (SLI-DR).
Asus & Gigabyte are first because they're the biggest players & hence are at the head of the queue for cooperation with people like Intel, nVidia etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tibu
But it's also down to available resources e.g. you can see the difference in time to market with new products from abit pre/post USI's investment, they're a lot quicker now.
I hate to say it but I foresee more of the smaller mobo manufacturers struggling against the big 5 or so in the future :(
Dfi's X38 should be here by then too...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelly
@Victor Wang.....is there any word on when this Motherboard should become available?:)
Sounds great if DFI releases a nice OC mobo now. Even if my heart belongs to AMD, I want to try the damn conroe's lol:D
This post sums up best about DFI intel mb's. The guys who come from AMD to c2d are the most adamant supporters of DFI.Quote:
Originally Posted by knopflerbruce
Thats because their NF4 Ultras kicked a$$, still using mine. I will be watching this board very carefully for my upcoming build, I wanna get a x38 board with q6600 and watercool for the first time. Hopefully they release it time before I lose patience and go for P5K vanilla + e6750 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
After a little self-reflection, I would have to say that's definitely a valid point.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
That being said, if it ain't broke, and you know you can expect bios/voltage options up the wazoo without seeing what the competition picked and chose (and may lack) when comparing, I don't see the error in this train of thought. The Intel DFI boards so far for C2D seem to be all in the upper echelon, if not the best. It may not be a blowout like on 939, but still they seem worth waiting for to see how they fair versus the competition. I've yet to be let down by waiting for their boards.
I am on a DFI mb now. I feel that DFI in Intel makes the best tweakers board. I do not think in Intel they have ever made the best board. There is a difference between having the most options and being the fastest overall oc'ing mb. How many wr in Intel are done on DFI? At the ORB? Isn't this what we judge the best as, the board who can bench the fastest?Quote:
Originally Posted by turtle
The worse thing about waiting until the next chipset is almost out before releasing a board is it becomes irrlevent very quickly. Look at the Dark I am on. The 35 chipset was out shortly after it could be bought and it is a better chipset and is able to use future cpu's the Dark cannot.
I love my Ultra-D but the P965-S left a bad taste in my mouth so I will reserve judgement on this new board until some retail boards are purchased and benched by private owners. If you always follow the hype you will always be dissapointed.
I agree with what you say but it seems these days things change so fast that there isn't time to wait and see. By the time each chipset matures, there's another one popping up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mysterfix
If the DFI comes out by mid July, it doesn't whine, and it has a crazy good bios, I might grab one for use with a 6850. I love the p5k-dlx too but I could always build another system this July. I love p35 so far.
Ditto, on the Infinity Line! I built a Infinity 975X/G actual went through two off the boards and the friggin thing had a mind of its own and was very tempermental! Personally the Bios on the Infinity line is entirely too flakey for my taste and really not what I have come to expect from Oskar Wu and I was less than impressed and sorely dissapointed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mysterfix
I hope to see this out by the end of August or else my E6850 is going to be lonely...
Tha's funny, I went through the same scenario with the P965-S. Lets just all keep our fingers crossed that this board comes out quickly and lives up to the Hype.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
lol i kinda have a feeling that most of us here came from AMD to C2D....Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
problem here seems is that Ultra-D was an execptional board and seems questionable if it can be reproduced, it had a fair share of its problems some really big but was a great board, i really do hope they make the new ones as good as the ultra-d, but on the other hand It HAS TO be out on time, by the time they put out the p965 little ppl cared and i hope it will not be same thing with this one .... or better yet they might just skip it and concetrate on the x38 right away so thay have that out on time....
Maybe 45% tops (guessing) came here from AMD to Intel. You make it sound like there were never any guys using Intel before c2d. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Millyons
I hope DFI can have a great Intel mb for the first time. Asus and Intel have always been the big dogs in Intel. I hope they don't mess around forever with the heatpipes and are late again.:)
I expect good things from the Board as they don't Dis on the LP Bios and I have Built 10 D.F.I LanParty Systems (NF4) and 2 (N590) and I still regard the D.F.I Expert Motherboard the best Motherboard I have ever owned //Screams like a Raped Ape on Steroids and is Server Class Motherboard stable and reliable!:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mysterfix
Actually I just changed out my system and am very reluctant to get rid of it!
I still own 2 Ultra-D's, one's in my sons computer with my old 165 running 2.9ghz on air and it can still hit 350fsb no problem. I have one in a box in the closet for a back up (Wink, Wink). Yeah you would think since this board will be carrying the LP name it will be on par with the best out there (crosses fingers).:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
Mobo will be available at the end the July.
Oskar updated , QX6700 @ 534fsb pi_32m on DFI P35 T2R
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1182923358_0.jpg
Thank you Victor Wang:toast:
Thanks for sharing Victor.. :)
wow.. at the end of july.. :) yahoo.. Oskar-Wu :clap: :clap: :clap:
what cooling is he using?
cause I know sub zero cooled PC's tend to have a much better chance at booting at very high FSB's then air or watercooled ones do.
just want to know how he's getting these numbers, so I can get a realistic idea of what to expect with that board.
Funny, that :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
OT, this does indeed look like a very nice board - can't wait for them to arrive down here in Oz so I can compare to my venerable nF4.
Thanks for the info Victor :up:
mmmm end of July... right around when my tax return is due :D
Can't wait to see the cooling on this thing
and hello Soulscollective ;)
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Originally Posted by Kunaak
for his E6600, cooling = phase-change
for this qx6700, I dont know, maybe also the same cooling.
coz I've tested lots of boards and quadcore, non of them can boot >495fsb with quadcore enabled.
any info on the chipset/pwm cooling? how far off is the x38 board?
Awesome, great to hear. Any idea when the X38 mobo's might be available? I'd like to buy a new computer in late July...but could stand waiting until late August if a DFI X38 will be out by then...as you can tell...big DFI fan..and would prefer to buy from them. :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by VictorWang
You wouldn't happen to be coming from an AMD platform, would you? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by EternityZX9
:up:
s754 DFI Lanparty UT nf3 250gb :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by turtle
Although it looks like to me DFI's track record hasn't been that great since that time frame...I do have high hopes for them in the future :)
Thank you for the info.Quote:
Originally Posted by VictorWang
Could you please ask when the DFI AM2+ boards will arrive?!
send e-mail to dfi.. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by mibo
Yep. That's the best way. They are usually very forthcoming with information.Quote:
Originally Posted by d@rkn1ko
That being said, they may say it's on track for July and unforeseen circumstances (or whatever you want to credit for DFI's release record) might still mean it may come later.
turtle that girl in your avatar looks mighty cheesed off.. funny though...lol..
I want pics and I wand them now... Tell somebody to dfi that if I dont see it first I wont buy it.:D
good to know hes doing this with sub zero cooling.Quote:
Originally Posted by VictorWang
dont want to get grand dreams of running 6 x 630 on air, stable or something crazy like that....
booting at 500 isnt that hard, my quad core can do it just fine on my P5K Deluxe.
maintaining stability however... thats the problem.
Which of these two processors is the best one to work with this motherboard? E6850 or Q6600?
depends on your purpose if you want dual core vs quad core.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrenchPcdiga
The pic on the first page doesn't do it for you? I imagine we'll see something from WWM before too long, and we all know his pics are second to none.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apollonas
OT: :) I think Aibon (Kago) is angry because she got fired. Remember kids, if you're a young pop idol and your job is to look young/cute so sick old men will want to sleep with you, you can't get caught sleeping with those old men; it ruins your image. Jk, it's a photochop. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Yes, those funky little 'crystal doodads' really do it for me, the most informative reviews around.....jk...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by turtle
yet another psu that has issues when not loaded up with 2x of the latest power sucking sli cardsQuote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
You guys seen these pics yet?
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showpost.p...&postcount=276
Wow that pipe coming off the SB is literally far out. I like the green look and the silver sinks.
Hope this board works well and comes out soon.
I like the green color :-)
As seen on other boards the P35 doesn't need such huge heatpipes even when overclocked - but it looks like you can build you own heatpipe system or leave it off.
Now the board needs to be a good performer and released to market with a not too high price :-)
Yes I hope its released soon at a decent price
Sweeeeeet:cool:
I wouldn't call this ultimate design anymore, it's more idiotic in a way. Looks like the standing pipe will be necessary since there are not enough fins on theblocks.
And where's audio?
Did they get rid of Bub Rub and Lil Sis from the dev team yet?
Whistle Tips
What the max vdimm on the DFI P35 T2R plz ? :up:
Little bizarre isn't it?? seems a nice alternative for my IP-35Pro:up:
Abit IP35Pro is a nice mobo but the DFI P35 is better http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...s/thumbsup.gif
Interesting. Now for some 500+fsb load temps to see how well this thing works.
I'm not so sure about that cooler...but for sure it's xtreme... hopefully it O/Cs well or else I might end up getting an Asus board. I hope they don't change the color scheme...I really liked the orange and black layout. :(
Really isn't fair to make that assumption till the board is actually tested by consumers. Lab results mean nothing if the retail version can't reproduce them. Quality control is also a big deal as the last few DFI boards have been suspect in that area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Algeriano
Looks like they already did if that picture is correct.:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by EternityZX9
love the color. Takes me back to my ultra-B days.
wow that board looks like a devil to install, with heatpipes.
perhaps it is just me, but from the pic on the first post it looks as if the ram retention brackets are getting awfully close to the first PCIe slot. Will installing a Corsair Dominator Airflow fan or similar be possible without touching the back of longer video cards such as the 8800 series?
On DFI 680i LT there's a feature called "southbridge dual voltage" which can be adjusted from 1.52 -> 1.83 Volts. I realise that the 680i chipset is a very different story with SPP <-> MCP layout, but still... could this be a similar story ?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
well im pretty sure its got about as much space as the DFI RD600 since DFI seems to be using pretty much the same layout for slot placemnt with this board, and yes you can fit a dominator fan but the OCZ ram fan will not fit. dominator fans are the only ones ive been able to find that fit and its VERY close, i would suggest trying to find a rubber pad or some thing along those lines to go in the middle of them, but it does fit and ive been using it for a bit with out any problems :)
any ideas as to when this will be released?
prolly around septemeber :confused:
maybe you just didn't have a CPU capable of that FSBQuote:
Originally Posted by VictorWang
but results are fantastic nevertheless :) :up:
If Victor isn't capable of getting a processor that will boot higher then 495 FSB then they probably don't exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
you'd be surprised :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
we are talking about a quad core here right
hell eva2000 hasn't had too many DUAL CORE cpus hitting 500 let alone quads.....
nothing surprises me man :)
Ηow about vdrop on this mobo?
GOOD motherboard
Pretty sure I read on one of the forums that it is around 50mv vcore.Quote:
Originally Posted by georgesod