I build a special mount using perspex.
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...&g2_itemId=269
Chris
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I build a special mount using perspex.
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...&g2_itemId=269
Chris
That looks great. I assume you screw it down to the bottom of the case. What are the advantages of Perspex over acrylic?Quote:
Originally Posted by phcjpp
Um - not sure - kinda thought they might be the same thing :)
Chris
Gotcha. Didn't know it went by another name =). I'm amazed at your handiwork and hope you don't mind if I use some of your mods as an inspiration for my "show" rig.
Hi All,
Few small bits achieved tonight.
Firstly put the swiftech hardmounts on the north and south bridge - thanks swiftech.
Other than that it was mostly about putting connectors on wires and adding a few top fans. So some pictures.
Here is the lid from underneath. 4 fans attached and wired in.
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...&g2_itemId=315
Single fan with tail
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...&g2_itemId=319
MCubed sensors sleeved and heatshrinked and an emergency cut off cable I built.
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...&g2_itemId=321
Finally a zoomed in image of the fan headers I have been adding. Got the bits from rapid electronics.
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...&g2_itemId=323
Thats it for now.
Chris
keep up the cool work
Looking great !!:up:
Looking forward to the end result!
OOOoooohh pretty mount :)
ranker acrylic goes by a zillion different names :P note that there's also polycarbonate, which is stronger than acrylic.
how did you make those temp sensors i realy wanna do that
Here is a link on temp sensors - its somewhere in that thread
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=147877
Off on hols for 4 days so don't expect much progress but hopefully can get it polished off when I get back.
Chris
Small update for the evening.
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
Created a box that attaches directly onto the enermax PSU to attach all the lights etc to.
Also built a couple of UV leds to mount into the reservoirs.
Chris
Great work, Chris.
With so much attention to your wiring, you oughta get rid of the white fan plugs. I finally got around to buying some connectX coloured fan plugs for my build and wish I'd got them ages ago.
All my sleeving is black and the black plugs just finish them off properly.
Hi Guys,
Well the project moves ever closer to completion.
Here we see the pumps going in and being mounted.
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
Bit more tubing going in
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
Water temp sensors now inline
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
Resistor bank to lower voltage of pump PSU slightly
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
Thats about it - getting closer and closer.
Chris
Couple of questions:
1) How do you glue your acrylic/perspex pieces together
2) What did you use to mount your aux PSU (for your Iwakis) to the original motherboard support tray?
Looks great and I can't wait to see the finished result.
Plastics glued with super glue! I am sure there are better things out there but works for me.
Used the super strong velcro you can buy at B&Q to mount the PSU. Its incredibly strong and comes in rolls. Something like holds 50kg per 2inch square piece or something like that. I used it to mount a giant bathroom mirror to the wall as nothing else would hold it up. I also use it to attach the speakers to the side of my lcd monitors (see pic a few posts back).
Chris
I was using the same method but the PSU sags a bit. I was wondering if there was an alternative method.Quote:
Originally Posted by phcjpp
You definitely got the super strength ? Mine is fine. I did a strip the full length of the PSU.
Chris
cover the whole top with velcro...
Couple more images...
Isabella getting involved
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
BigNG / miniNG / sensorbus
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
all mounted on acrylic with the power attached.
Stealths going in as we speak.
Chris
one thing to say
CUTE ( sure not the case :P )
Ugh, you're making me reconsider my mounting locations for my BigNG, 2 miniNG's and Sensorbus combo. Where would you mount it in the Horizon? I can't think of anywhere else to put that plate, other than possibly on top of one of your 5.25" bays.Quote:
Originally Posted by phcjpp
Its gonna rest on top of the (moved) motherboard support. Again most likely velcro to hold it on.
Chris
wow you are the king of awesome customized wiring!!
This some super strength velcro from the local hardware store could hold up a 3x120 rad full of water?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sick_g4m3r
Without a problem
Hi Guys,
Last one for the night - little picture of the mounted stealths with superglued mini heat sinks (mc21's).
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
Chris
dude, lovely unit and lovely daughter :toast:
Hey Chris, do you 5mm acrylic would be strong enough to hold an RD-30 mounted vertically (so that inlet would face up, and outlet would be horizontal with the case floor)?
Should I be wary of such a mounting option due to vibrational noises? strength of the acrylic?
I'm breaking down my loop again and would like to find a "sexier" way to mount it without having to resort to excessive tube lengths to get it routed correctly.
Wow, why haven't I looked at this yet? :eek:
Looking very nice! I really like the CD drive switch, And the wiring on the radiator fans. I'll have to do some of that once I finish making all the cuts in my project. :rolleyes:
One question- What did you make the T-line temperature monitors from? I was thinking of making one using a T-line, Temp probe, And a good helping of silicone caulking.
Technically its quite strong and the pump mounted on it should be fine. How would you attach the acrylic mount though ? I can't see anywhere in my horizons it would fit.
Just filled my loops last night BTW and doing some final leak testing before switching on the fella.
The only thing left to do is power up the fans and put in the temp sensors.
Chris
Here is the link to the temp sensor stuff
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&postcount=53
In fact I will copy it in here. Here you go.
Just did a couple of the MCubed waterproof sensors into a T. Here are some pics. Took quite a while to get the epoxy right - did it in layers. Also used about 2 inches of tubing on the T also.
Starting ingredients
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...&g2_itemId=293
First application of epoxy - note no tube at this point
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...&g2_itemId=295
The epoxy is all done now.
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...&g2_itemId=297
The finished product tidied up with a little sleeving and heatshrink.
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...&g2_itemId=301
Chris
I was planning on doing a free standing plate similar to your EK reservoir mounting plate. I'd use two acrylic piates and glue them together. I'd drill into the vertical plate and mount the RD-30 on its back. I'm just hoping the plate will hold and vibrational noises won't be amplified.Quote:
Originally Posted by phcjpp
looking great... I like the BigNg mount you did.
I need to do that as well in my TT Mozart TX... first need to buy the dam thing if performance-pcs ever gets them back in stock
Not really getting any vibrations - I would worry about the 90 degree join between acrylic plates - you would need something much stronger than I did.
I suggest using some 1.5 inch square acrylic blocks and bolting through them from each peice of acrylic. that should hold the 90 degree join well.
Hobby shops have that sort of thing.
http://www.ema-models.co.uk/shop/pro...ge-CAC-40.html
Good store.
Chris
Hmm.. I can't quite mentally picture what you're describing.Quote:
Originally Posted by phcjpp
Like this
Chris
Great artwork. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by phcjpp
Aaaaaahh I hate evga officially. I have never had so much trouble with a motherboard in my life.
I now have a motherboard that has a corrupt bios and just beeps at me.
Grrrrrrr. What a pile of steaming cra*.
You might gather I tried to install vista last night. Lost count of the BSOD's and random reboots.
This has got to be the worst night of computing ever.
Anyway have ordered super cheap new psu / video / ram / floppy to see if I can't get the mobo back to life on the workench so to speak.
:mad: :mad: :mad:
Chris
Well hi guys. Long time no speak. Most of the delay has been down to me having to RMA my motherboard. Anyway the replacement will be with me in a few days so I can get back to business. I have not been idle however and I had an idea about quick-connectors. I wanted to be able to remove the motherboard tray without dimantling the loop. So here we have my solution. 2 quick connect values per loop, one in and one out.
The items in question
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
how they connect
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
idea of size - they are not small
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
the first set (loop 2 graphics) installed
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
please note not tightened yet.
Thought this might appeal to some of you. I don't think they will restrict flow too much. And they auto seal - very nice.
Chris
I'm surprised you'd use them although your Iwaki might be able to power through it. I removed the QD's from the loop due to the rather large pressure drop. Only the plastic Colder QC's seem to make sizes large enough to minimize the PD, but they just ended up being too bulky.
These are big fellows. Looking through them the diameter seems to be the same as the tube. Quite bulky but I think the way I am mounting them should make it all fit and as you say 2 iwakis makes for some serious grunt. It also makes putting togethter the rig a damn site easier.
Chris
That will brutally slaughter your flow. The water has to pass through what looks like a 3mm outlet on the male connector. Even the RD30 will struggle badly
you should return your stealths they have announced stealth rev 2 is coming and they seem to work much better
+1:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by louie101086
Just said no to one at half price.Quote:
Originally Posted by hecktic
It's a great case if you don't mind being tied into that type and size rads. I have Thermochills.
@sick_g4m3r
I don't think so - its much wider than that - nearer 10 mm than 3mm. These things are massive. The bore is the same as the 1/2" barbs when you look closely. They are 2 inches across at one point to give you some idea how big. That whole black bit depresses upon connection.
@louie101086
Thanks for the heads up on the stealths.
Chris
Wow, very impressive! :toast:
~subscribed~
phcjpp please can you explain your BigNG etc setup.
e.g how many fans per channel etc
3 fans per channel at most - sometimes 2 - sometimes 1. I haveQuote:
Originally Posted by jabski
3 on a rad
2 on a rad
2 on lid
2 on lid
1 at back
so thats 5 fan headers - 4 on the bigng one onto the mini ng. The sensorbus lets you shutdown the pc so thats why its there.
Chris
very impressive work so far..can't wait to see this beast finished :up:
Any update`s m8?
Hi,
Yes this has not been forgotten but got put back quite a while why I waited for the motherboard RMA. Anyway here are a few pics.
Essentially showing the plumbing going in for the quick release fittings and the hard drive cooling.
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
Chris
very nice indeed
A build can eat up time.
Great to see more pics, Chris.
Again, thanks for sharing. It's a great case and you have approached it with a great deal of careful consideration. Love to see the progress as you are able.
:)
any updates?
Actually did a little work last night - I simply have to attach the fans to the bigng and I think I can actually turn it on. Thats not to say it will actually work but I am pretty close. If I get a chance I will post some updated pics!
Chris
looking good chris, anxious for the final pics and load temps...
One day I will own a MM case. Very nice.
--pak
Evening All,
Well finally - I think I have a working pc. I now officially hate those little heat sinks you are supposed to be able to stick on the 8800GTX's more than I can describe. Well 5 attempts later and I think they are just about stuck. Vista is installed along side xp and ubuntu. Now for some stablilty tests and all the wiring needs tidying up.
Anyway a snap.
http://www.chrispurves.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1
Chris
Glad you got everything you needed. I've found this to be a very helpful thread - thanks.
Love the color scheme.
everything seems to be in order topview, hehe. some more snaps?
Wow! There's a motherboard under there somewhere.:rofl:
Glad it's come out well for you. Now you get to enjoy using it.
Looking forward to the triumphal pix.
:up:
I give up - another leak - another dead motherboard. Thats it I'm selling the watercooling kit. Had it. Game over. What a waste of my life.
Anyone in the UK want some of the kit ?
There is
Customised Mountain mods case
2 Iwaki pumps RD30's
High Quality power supply for Iwaki's
2 Swiftech mc30's
2 Swiftech Storms
Thermochill rad's PA120.2 and PA120.3
Couple of EK 200 Res's
5 Danger Dan Delrin Fill Ports
Happy to sell in bits or together.
Chris
Not to kick you while you're down but complications like these arise when people like us decide to go all out with the most over the top setup possible. It took me like 4 months just to get my Horizon and its 3 loops up. Give it a week and you'll be back at it. All I can say is simplify your loops. You don't need to watercool your RAM, nor do you need to make things modular with quick disconnects. Those are the most likely components to leak and have issues with.Quote:
Originally Posted by phcjpp
In my build, I had all sorts of grand things planned but in the end, I ended up scaling back 33% of what I had planned just to get it up and running. It's just not worth it in the end for the headaches you're going through.
Ah, hell, what a kick in the guts.
Where did it leak?
Am I wrong in thinking that flow is ideal, but pressure is not? Those Iwaki pumps seem to run fairly high pressure. That's going to require super secure fittings and all. I don't think quick disconnects would be ideal in a system like that!
The quick disconnects were not the issue at all. They worked flawlessly (designed for hydraulics - little more pressure than the iwaki's can put out). In the end it was the swiftech f-connecter 1/2" to 1/2" + 1/4" pipe that failed. Trashed my second evga 680i motherboard.
For me that is enough - those motherboards are not cheap!
Chris
pchjpp, I know your feeling rather dejected and ticked off right now, that's not the best time to make any kind of decisions. Wait until you calm down for a few days before making your decision final. I know anytime I've made a snap decision under similar conditions, I've usually regretted it later. Sit back, take a time out, regroup, save up and give it one more shot, this time, K.I.S..
Flow is worthless without pressure. If a manufacturer were to come in here touting their brand new pump that could flow 500GPH(1893LPH) but only had a head pressure of 6.5FT (2m), we would probably laugh at him. You want more pressure to power through the obstacles known as blocks, rad, fittings...then the flow can do it's job. I'm not saying pressure is everything, but it is more important than flow.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonKbmw
Why even pay for another when you can RMA it? Like I've stated in numerous posts, EVGA doesn't ask questions nor do they care how it died. Submit and RMA and get a new one sent out. Shipping will cost ya, but its better than paying for a new motherboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by phcjpp
And like I said, the Swiftech F-connector is used for your RAM blocks... forget the RAM cooling. I bought over 3 different RAM waterblocks but in the end, decided it wasn't worth it. Imagine the pain you'll have to go through when a RAM stick dies and you'll have to break down the entire loop. The way DDR2 sticks have been dying left and right these days, its just not worth the hassle on both fronts.
yah chris dont give up too easily. at least you have eVGA no questions ask RMA policy (except for the shipping). take a breather every now and then...
Yes that policy was one of the reasons we pay that price for the board. Might as well get the benefit.
Good luck with finding your way back to enjoying building it, mate.
Have always liked your blue MM and would love a happy ending for you.
+1 on not giving up while you are probably so mad.. you really deserve that happy ending.
what was the end result? did he keep the system??
I wish he would. He had a post up in this part of the forum about 2 days ago with what looked like the loop parts list for sale. It's since been deleted so I have no clue what happened. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Isriam
phcjpp, if you haven't sold the stuff yet, hang tough bro. If your having a problem with it, talk to us, maybe we could help you.