i confirm this....Quote:
Originally Posted by stealthbomber
btw i love the head butt in your sig, pretty brutal... it's zidane...right
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i confirm this....Quote:
Originally Posted by stealthbomber
btw i love the head butt in your sig, pretty brutal... it's zidane...right
looks like a sweet board.
still wondering what the price will be and ETA. :)
Nobody really knows......Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
bet you next week we'll start seeing them like we did with direct DFI dealQuote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
well DFI sales has recently stated end April/early MAy...lets hope this time they are being conservative as opposed to optemistic.
the fact that the retail package has been seen to me means it is more likely they will hit the mark or even beat it.
also the web-page for this board is up which is another indicator it may arrive sooner than expected.
pricing will be more than other 680LT boards due to all the features dfi has put back and the fact that they have done their own custom design rather than just using nvidia's reference design.
the good new is it will retail well below the overpriced monsters from some of the other manufacturers.
my best guess based on the $140 or so that the p965-s is going for is that the LanParty 680SLI will retail close to $250...maybe a touch more depending on the retailers and their markups.
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by Solarfall
This boards arrival is great timing for me. My third EVGA 680i board just died this morning. I love the EVGA customer service but the board is crap. I'll be getting the DFI board the day it comes out.
ur 3rd board??? wow i thought it was crap but not that crappyQuote:
Originally Posted by ma1kmcn1
LOL i've had 6 atleast...Quote:
Originally Posted by theteamaqua
How are you guys killing the EVGA boards?
LOL thats what i've been wondering too.. mayby people have gotten there hands on a bad batch of mobos or something, like in the DFI sli-dr days, remember those first boards killed ram too and had those nasty power spikes witch killer cpu's like there was no tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
Quad-Core Test
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/DFI-680iLT/55.JPG
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/DFI-680iLT/56.JPG
More GTL voltage doen't help more FSB.
FSB 500 2 hours ORTHOS
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/DFI-680iLT/52.JPG
Sorry, that statement is so false. The USERS killed their board in THAT case. THEY killed their memory by either putting too many volts into it, or using the 5v jumper. Had nothing to do with the board, just stupid users, making stupid errors. As far as CPU's go, it was ONLY 4 people. FFS, again...it wasn't a bad batch or ANYTHING.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solarfall
It was also due to come using low CPU volts and using a lot of vdimm and with the onboard memory controller, it was too much differential. Resulting in a broken memory controller. Andre, what GLT Ref voltage settings have you tried? I heard testing in the region of 160+ is needed for quads. Sure you probably already know that though :)
nope not evne DFI killed that many RAM and boards... just read "EVGA killing RAM" thread ull know that the board is a piece of $hit!!! if u get a bad one, which u have a good chance of getting a SHlT one
and like i said 2.2v is not gonne kill RAM , OCZ says 2.4v is ok
well the gues who reported that there boards were lethal to there ram and cpu were no noobs, but finnish overclocking gurus. and that time i did not even know that XS even existed. so i know nothing about what went on in here. and it was whole lot more that 4 people who reported that they had boards that killed there cpu's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reinvented
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekrel
I use GTL 160/80/80. More doesn't help.
Let's try to stay on topic here a little.
Not too great of Quad core performance, a little disappointing. Keep the results coming!
good
looks really nice, keep going
i agree.... sorry gues for the offtopic ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueAqua
wow, you'd think with this much time they'd get quadcore overclocking tuned and figured out. sucks it maxed out in the 300 mhz region, rather than mid to upper 400.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Solarfall
I already have tested Quad-Core in #112.
Oskar told me about Quad-CPU FSB support problems. It's not GTL voltage problem. He thought 680i doesn't support quad-cpu well.
I hope he'll still find a way to get at least 400MHz fsb out of this chipset when using a quadcore.
Are the unlocked multipliers properly handled on your QX6700, I mean, is it possible to set a higher one than 10x in the bios ?
Thanks for the preview :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrou
Yes...unlock for X6800 and QX6700.
Andre, will you do comparison between this board and Commando? Nice looking board.
Did you happen to run a single instance of 1Mb Pi or 32 Mb Pi with the E6600 @ 400FSB? If so were times comparable to other 680i's or better as in near 975x chipsets. I know most 680i boards can get close to 975x board's Pi performance when you run 1T. I'm wondering if this board gets close @ 2T or even beats it.
Andre,
How loud is the SB fan? What RPM does it usually run at? 3000rpm? 2000rpm?
I think with my VGA Copper fan, it runs at 2000RPM, and its very quiet. Anything beyond 3000RPM thought and it gets loud.
Hmm, only 360 FSB with quad CPU, its really low :( Hope it can be tweaked and improved with newer BIOS version. Old revision C00 eVGA 680i boards had problems with quad overclocking, but new one rev. D00 is improved and can get it much more higher over 400 FSB, some can get even 450 FSB, so I dont think its the own chipset problem and limit. But who knows, DFI have 680i LT chip, but offers all things that gives 680i non-LT :nono:
Very nice. Ill skip 965 infinity :D
I ordered mine on release date (11/08) had many SATA issues. EVGA's response at that time was RMA maybe you will get a good one. Also 2 DOA's and A1 RMA. EVGA's Warranty and support made all the difference. I would have given up long ago on any other manufacturer. I've had 2 Strikers, 1 Abit 680i, 1 Gigabyte 680i , and 1 p5n32 plus 680/650. Evga i like the best. I sure hope this DFI can Bump this Evga from my Lian Li though. The only other DFI i've had was the SLI 939 Expert board and i loved that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
not 400fsb ... but i guess i can live with 360fsb
Many Many Many thanks.
Sure?Quote:
Originally Posted by theteamaqua
Andre, have you played with the GTL REF Voltage settings?
And what is the highest 1:1 1T clock?
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
965 975 is faster than 680i for sure, especially Super PI.
It's quiet, but I don't know how many rpm.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogchainx
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kashelz
I have received new EVGA 680i from Nvidia, but it still don't run high fsb for quad-cpu on air cooling. Are you sure new 680i doing that?
Quote:
Originally Posted by doompc
More GTL REF doesn't help more fsb or memory.
Here is DDR2 950 1T 32M.
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/DFI-680iLT/57.JPG
Faster than Mine:D
http://img.techpowerup.org/070407/1 ...8 X 475FSB.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
Can you run 32M 475*8 DDR2 950 1T?
I want to compare with DFI and abit.:)
That system is running an orthos test that won't be complete for a few more hours. Here are some screenies with the abit you may wish to compare to until I can though.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
32 Mb Pi 5-5-5-12 2T DDR2-1200
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6...0023te2.th.jpg
32 Mb Pi 4-4-4-12 2T DDR2-1100
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8...0023av0.th.jpg
32 Mb Pi 3-3-3-8 1T DDR2-800
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5...225vkg6.th.jpg
32 Mb Pi 3-3-3-8 2T DDR2-830
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7...225vuz5.th.jpg
32 Mb Pi 3-3-3-8 2T DDR2-850
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9...023vlz2.th.jpg
lol i probably shouldn't comment hehehehe :DQuote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
DDR2 800 1T CL3 is so faster.
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/DFI-680iLT/59.JPG
nvm i thought this was the P965 mobo
wow much faster than the Abit. I'll set my sub timmings to match yours, but it looks like the DFI 680i is gonna be much faster than any other Nvidia 680i based board.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
Post 50:http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&postcount=50Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
Yes, but that was a dual instance of 32mb Pi therefore my single instance with cas 5 came in a bit faster. I'm gonna try a dual run cas 4 with more volts later tonite 2 compare:)Quote:
Originally Posted by sofarfrome
32 Mb Pi 5-5-5-12 2T DDR2-1200 2.3v
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6...0023te2.th.jpg
Oskar told me " I need more more FSB CL3 1T". Yes, I did.:D
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/DFI-680iLT/60.JPG
looking better but still slow :( 680i just can't compete with P965/975X :(
It's an nVidia gaming platform though who cares about pi, can we see some 3D benches? :D
lol Pi rules :slapass: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by stealthbomber
you are asking for way to much out of a quad core....you might find a hand full of success stories with people over 400 fsb...i am at 380 on the Abit AB9 QuadGT...i can go to 420 but the difference between the 2 FSB's is very high Vcore for 420 FSB; around 1.60v!Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
Andre, i can beat you on the Quad-core Super PI 32M...hehehe...having fun now!:D
to hell with PI lets see some 05 and 06
NOW you are smoking!:p:
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
MAN...choices!:D
we can chase this elusive performance graph but will it really satisfy our urge to beat our fellow puter guru?..i'll take 100 tickets on the trifacta!:D
I hope this beats the MSI Diamnond to retail. I dont want to have to buy them both
probably ok for a non-quad core cpu
How do you know it's the limitation of the board, did that same exact quad chip run with a higher FSB on another board?
Different FSB walls exists for different chips.
I'm back to my c2d. I hated not being able to get my memory above 800mhz with the quad. Andre how high can you run your memory with the quad?
Sorry about 3D benches because I sell all SLI video cards. I still wait 8800 ultra coming.
are you asking me?Quote:
Originally Posted by stealthbomber
do you have a quad core?
So when is this bad boy scheduled to be released and what is the projected price? I think I will be picking one of these up! :D
This is with EVGA 680i with same settings. DFI wins by 24s.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4200/1t800mj0.jpg
So Oskar believes 680i has some serious problems with Quad core? Ack. Not good.
Yes, I am sure, look here, there is a lot of new rev. boards, that can do 400+ FSB! http://www.evga.com/community/messag...TOPIC_ID=29264Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
I like this a lot, validation of 475 FSB on Quad CPU and new rev.D eVGA 680i :slobber: :clap:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/182241.png
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=182241
And there is also released a new eVGA 680i BIOS - a P27, major highlight is Quad-Core OC Improvements, so maybe someone will overclock even more! I think DFI must repair this board so these also can do 450FSB on Quad, its not the limit of 680i :nono:
But maybe the only thing is that your quad CPU cant get more FSB? Maybe you have FSB wall in CPU and board can do more (I hope so)? Have you tested it on another board?
3 DFI RD600 boards l8r & on the reconmendation of fhpchris, I went EVGA 680i & haven't looked back since. (Rev A2)
However, despite the Raid on RD600 being total cr4p, it amazes me that DFI are STILL going to all the trouble of using nice 90 Degree Headers for the SATA ports & you still can't use cables WITH clips!
Nice to see they are still using NB Hooks ffs! :rolleyes:
Just small things I guess, but they really pi$$ me off all the same! :slap:
my comment is based on the fact that the p5b deluxe which has been available since.... who knows when can o/c the quads very easily to 400+ FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
the new eVGA A1/T1's can o/c the FSB's very nicely as shown above.
DFI has had a while to get this board out. I understand that eVGA sort of messed up with their first release but they got it fixed, gave all people (who wanted it) a RMA for their newer version ALL before DFI even got 1 retail board out.
but does that mean i wouldn't buy a DFI board? of course not! this board looks nice. let's hope the price is nice as welll.
I hope the 680i give me no issues like the bad **** ICFX3200 and no problems :mad:
wow with a nb heatsink like that, no way my infinity or most cpu heatsinks will fit that mobo.
I think the Infinity will fit if you turn it like Andre has the Tuniq.Quote:
Originally Posted by t1no
I like,
Testing the board on that CPU, do you know what the max FSB the CPU could reach on another board.
Also didnt see a release date mentioned. Any idea?
Why do you need SATA cables with clips for? Every single board I've had since NForce2 days with added SATA controller haven't had the clip versions and have held in place fine :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kin Hell
Hooks are also fine, infact better! Can mount a after market cooler without taking it out of the case.
Be pissed at the secondary heatsink producers who can't make a product with good compatability.
I probably will be getting the infinity 965 board, 680i seems too hit and miss. It's only plus side over 965 is faster 3d performance and nVidia manopoly SLI. 965 is more robust when on the right board and has a better onchip raid controller.
got a point there.. but in 965 chips you cant maximes your memories.. :) maybe I'll wait a little longer.. hope they have a retail pricing for this..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekrel
What a good looking mobo! :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kashelz
Thanks your reviews. I will ask Oskar to check why this 680i LT cannot quad-cpu high fsb.
@AndreYang
I couldn't match your subtimings to give you a comparison to the IN9 32 Max. If you could loosen them up a bit I may be able to. I don't want to set over 2.35v in bios on this board because its voltage seems unstable. It overvolts both the cpu & ram sometimes. alhough the vdroop on this board is the worse I've seen @ load.
Please do, I wait with baited breath. Got my C2Q sitting on my desk beside me and I can't decide on the mobo. DFI have never done me wrong so far, so i'd like to stay with them for my 775 build.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
Maybe also ask oskar if he has any ideas about a release date ;) oh and also ask if a possible BIOS fix would help the quad fsb any, or is it a hardware limitation?
Depends which CPU you own and which mutli you use to be honest, E6600 means unless I want to run 3.5 (which I dont as it can do more) then I'm not going to be seeing 500 with a 9 multi unless the chip is very very special so the 10th anniversarys I have will do up to DDR1000 very easily and at good timings too.Quote:
Originally Posted by erwinz
Got to admit, with the amount of CPU's and chipsets for the intel platform, does make chosing a board hard.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
Here is easy to compare with your abit pi speed. I use 2.25V for DDR2 1200 CL5. OS: Win2003 server. :)
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/DFI-680iLT/61.JPG
More Direct comparisons with EVGA @ Identical settings.
Ok my earlier comparison with EVGA @ 800 3-3-3 1t, DFI was 24s faster at 32m http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=162Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
Now at 1200 5-5-5 DFI still is way faster. 21s faster. This board keeps lookin better and better.
Could somebody post some 965/975 screenies with these exact settings? or as close as possible? Thanks!
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/4172/1200gm2.jpg
Andre, I sure wish you had some 8800's to test 3d with. Oh well, maybe next time.
I'm tired of playin Pi. We should atleast get a ventrillo Super Pi server goin. Maybe get an X-Fire Plugin.... :) I wanna be on CT side :p:
Hmm... this board is tempting. DFI (965-S) agaisnt DFI (680i)
Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
Sorry about 3D. I already sold my 8800GTX SLI cards. I think it would have more power user to test 3D next week.:)
Good looking board. Looks like my P5W replacement to run 8 series in SLI :)
Thanks for all the pics and screenshots Andre :toast:
release date anyone?
it's a shame quad cores are not clocking very high in fsb........it's too late to make any corrections now as people are already receiving P35 boards to test :(
i guess for SLI people that want to clock non QX CPUs high they will probably have better luck with evga for now
I wouldn't lose all hope yet... I'd hope someone at DFI has an ace up their sleeve!Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Evga just released a BIOS for their 680i board (p27) and it looks to remove FSB walls for Quad Cores.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sumanji
After reading more about the Evga, I hope DFI can deliver the goods with this board. Evga seems to have numerous problems (RAM being killed, noisey caps, etc). My current DFI NF4 SLI-DR Expert board has been the best motherboard I've have ever used. It has never caused a problem (save nvidia's ethernet port...what a JOKE that is!) and I hope to continue with DFI's reliability.
I hope DFI finds the secret about quad core oc.. :) I think DFI can also clock higher.. should also clock higher.. if not.. mm.. its a shame.. EVGA that is a graphic card manufacturer can beat DFI..
So is this board better than the P965 Infinity Dark or worse? :confused:
My impression is this depends on needsQuote:
Originally Posted by MichelinGuy
SLI vs Crossfire...
Nvidia chipset vs intel based
DFI 680i Quad core fsb is somewhat limited now...maybe not in the future
965-s..looks good and is based on the 965 chipset so not as fast as the 975 chipset mobo
Does price factor in it for you?
Oskar Wu's probably got a couple of aces tucked up his sleeve. If it can be done he is the man to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sumanji
And since he was here reading this thread the night before last you may get your wish!:fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron 61
I happened to notice him online and he was reading this.
Smart man, looks for feedback..;)
Nice looking board . cant waite to see some 3d
these are not as common as people are making them out to be common nowQuote:
Originally Posted by dogchainx
After asking people on Hardforum about their evga 680i A1's, and having almost everyone say they have noisey caps, i'm not about to take the chance until EVGA comes out with a statement saying they fixed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I didnt' buy a $350 cooling system so a motherboard can ruin how quiet my system is. Sure, my motherboard MIGHT not have the issue, but its a good chance that it will happen.
Noticed 6-phase High Speed "Digital" CPU VRM and only 4 PCI-Express lanes for third slot. And x16 are only first slots, so CF/SLI setup need shorter bridges than reference 680i. Nice voltage ranges in BIOS setup. But I don't like that HSF. I think it will run really hot with watercooling\phasecooling on CPU. 680i LT NB physically is the same as 680i SLI, so no heat reduce for now :( Andre, am I right with heat levels?
And good to see GTL regulations, no need of soldering mobos :-D
cant wait to see some testing; nice pics
the board i wanted but could not wait for....
when can i buy this board?
I am debating between both boards too.... Somebody Help !!Quote:
Originally Posted by RealTelstar
Me too! I like the extra USB ports / dual ethernet and other little accessories of the Lanparty but I think the Infinity can hold its own and would probably prefer the raid performance .... any raid tests??? using the different SB.
mm.. my initial observation is.. DFI 680 LT is much faster than DFI Infinity 965P.. I'm basing my observations with initial post from xs members.. :D