The world's first carbon-based CPU cooler

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03-20-2007, 09:16 AM
Richard Dower

I'M SCARED! :(

:p:
03-20-2007, 09:25 AM
andyOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by XS Janus

Good to see the OZC guys finnaly step up and clear the thread of speculations. I kenw they were laughing in the background these past few days. :D
I looks like really good cooler. A lot of R&D went in it. Idea implementation sure doesn't strike me as something someone just woke up with.

I was watching this thread over the weekend and posted what I knew about the design (Tony has much been more involved). Basically I asked everyone to give it a chance before slamming it. You have to love they way everything new sucks around here, but at the same time you all want bigger, faster, better..... this makes little sense. So, give it a chance! ;)

Thanks Tony for stepping up with a good explanantion!
03-20-2007, 09:32 AM
Richard Dower

Andy...any pics of the new 1010W PSU?...looks very interesting.
03-20-2007, 10:51 AM
DeltZ

well we kind of got the graphite bit:P
03-20-2007, 02:18 PM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyOCZ

I was watching this thread over the weekend and posted what I knew about the design (Tony has much been more involved). Basically I asked everyone to give it a chance before slamming it. You have to love they way everything new sucks around here, but at the same time you all want bigger, faster, better..... this makes little sense. So, give it a chance! ;)

Thanks Tony for stepping up with a good explanantion!

:fact:

PS: Andy, you think you could send me the latest OCZ news from now on!?
Im one of the good guys here, not like the others :p: :D
03-20-2007, 07:53 PM
THE JEW (RaVeN)

Interesting design. For me, the "pudding proof" will be in the results, but if nothing else I salute you for trying a different design.
03-20-2007, 07:57 PM
andyOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

:fact:

PS: Andy, you think you could send me the latest OCZ news from now on!?
Im one of the good guys here, not like the others :p: :D

If you are serious, I could see about getting you on our PR/News email list. Jus email me in my sig.
03-20-2007, 08:01 PM
Knight

How hard would it be to damage the base of the cooler? Do we need a new thermal grease like AS5 for the carbon base?
03-20-2007, 08:06 PM
Thrilla

How much are those graphite and how difficult is it to work with? It'll be fun making waterblocks or put heatpipes in them =P
03-20-2007, 08:25 PM
andyOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Dower

Andy...any pics of the new 1010W PSU?...looks very interesting.

From the info I have it will be similar to the GamXStream line of PSU's. I'm pretty sure that they took a prototype or even a production unit to Cebit in Taiwan, but I haven't had a look yet.
03-20-2007, 08:31 PM
ahmad

How could I forget. Some nuclear reactors use graphite blocks.

Anyways, thanks for the info Tony and unregistered.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

I love the way you get this all wrong, I just read this whole thread and was amazed by what some of you think of the cooler and of OCZ.

Anyway, I will explain briefly how this cooler is working.

1 the base is made from directional conductive graphite, we used this material 3 yrs ago but then it was to brittle...now we have a version that is strong enough for direct to CPU contact under pressure.

2 the base has micro channels that over lap each other...this is how we are able to extract so much heat.

3 the fluid is not water, we may use a special coolant but we could use an oil based coolant also.

4 The pump runs off the same impeller as the fan and is centrifugal....it is placed very close to the base and pumps directly on to it, the fluid then travells up the copper tubes to the fluid distribution manifold where it is distributed to the radiators.

5 The radiators have micro channles also, this means they transfer heat at an astounding rate, i have been told the transfer from the base to the radiators of heat under test was measured under a second and the same temp on the base is seen by the radiators...this means this cooler has an ultra high efficiency rating at heat removal.

6 The air cools the radiators on the way into the cooler and then on the way out...total cooling area on the unit here is 0.5M squared...we can make this smaller or bigger depending on how much heat we want to remove.

7 The radiators in the sample here are copper, we have decided to move to Aluminum though to save on weight....there may be a slight drop in thermal performance but its so slight you will never be able to measure it ;)

8 Cooling performance is governed by the temperature of the air entering the unit....deltaT would remain constant for all tests but tested in a warm case will push the temps higher over a test on an open bench.

9 Regarding Cryo Z, units are in production, we are not showing it here but you will see it on sale in the USA soon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by unregistered

This thread is really kind of funny ...

So here is a bit more insight: The WayCool technology has been licensed from OnScreen Technologies and we have built more than 50 prototypes over the last year for all kinds of application. This said, copper is reaching its limitations of thermal transfer capability with modern CPUs that run lower power than earlier generations but also have much reduced die area -- therefore higher area power densities than anything before. ... that is up to 200 W/cm2 under normal conditions and way more in overclocked systems.

The only materials that can handle that type of thermals are based on directional graphite, which is the material used in this water block. The design is proprietary and patent pending so I won't comment further.

The second key of the cooler design is the microchannel array contained in each of the heat exchangers. We have achieved designs of less than 1 mm thickness with approximately 80% of the structure being interleaved micro-channels that result in almost complete isothermicity across the entire cooling surface within fractions of a second.

The cooling fluid is moved through a pump - whichever design fits the application, regardless of whether it is a positive displacement, rotary or centrifugal pump or even ion charge pump for smaller units.

The combination of a very high thermal exchange with the heat source with an extremely efficient heat dissipation device that only needs very slow air movement is what this is all about. We built completely passive solutions for graphics cards already that even in a 1 slot form factor beat the crap out of dual slot fan solutions and those will hit the market also in the near future.

The pump and fan are driven by the same motor that can be completely immersed in the coolant - which in that case can also act as noise suppressor for the bearings and as lubricant, similar to dynamic fluid bearings in HDDs.

Since I have spent overall about 3 years in the R&D leading to this prototype, I know very well what it can do and what not and whatever is made public about the technology will hold up.

Regards,

Michael
03-20-2007, 08:42 PM
Ron 61

Looks like Thermaltake wants some of the Onscreen Waycool tech also http://www.onscreentech.com/newsfull.php?ID=193
03-20-2007, 09:14 PM
andyOCZ

Some does this mean we are actually onto something?

We signed up quite a while ago. Copy Cats!
03-20-2007, 09:55 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyOCZ

Some does this mean we are actually onto something?

We signed up quite a while ago. Copy Cats!

looks like unregistered just gave us a slightly better idea but we now want hard numbers :D
03-20-2007, 10:17 PM
RFC Rudel

I already think of some nasty 80mm fans attached to the top to help the xtreme OC :banana:
03-21-2007, 12:43 AM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by unregistered

The biggest problem will mot likely be the IHS because it is not plane in most cases and further, the interface is low temp solder that has a much lower conductivity than anything else in the therml path.

Every cooler faces the same QC problem with regard to the flatness (or lack thereof) on the IHS. So YMMV in every case.

I'm confident that the new OCZ cooler will perform as well if not better than the top standard air coolers. The only question is whether the price point and performance will have new CPU owners and guys who already have beefy $50+ air coolers, taking a chance on a new technology and OCZ who has yet to establish credibility in this market, like they have with memory and to some degree, power supplies. I'm hoping the performance will spectacular so the choice becomes easy. :toast:
03-21-2007, 12:52 AM
ahmad

Quote:

Originally Posted by gundamit

Every cooler faces the same QC problem with regard to the flatness (or lack thereof) on the IHS. So YMMV in every case.

I'm confident that the new OCZ cooler will perform as well if not better than the top standard air coolers. The only question is whether the price point and performance will have new CPU owners and guys who already have beefy $50+ air coolers, taking a chance on a new technology and OCZ who has yet to establish credibility in this market, like they have with memory and to some degree, power supplies. I'm hoping the performance will spectacular so the choice becomes easy. :toast:

If its going to be within +/- 5*C of an entry level water cooling setup, I will go for it.
03-21-2007, 05:37 AM
Ron 61

Looks like this cooler will work best in a well ventilated case with fresh air ducted into the top of the cooler. Water block manufacturers are probably keeping a close eye on this.
03-21-2007, 06:13 AM
7he ]-[0rr0r

I would like to give a thanks to the OCZ guys as well i don't claim to be the most hardcore person on these forums but it really seemed that everyone was forming opinions with little to no research perhaps this will put a damper on the instant "it's crap" responses to new products.
I'd like to thank Tony in particular for his work for the enthusiast community it's good to see you posting anytime.
(i wish the sapphire board had been made on the reference grouper you worked along side of ati to develop, I'm still taming that beast and will give another go with your modded bios here in a bit.)
Btw if this is as good as some of the early claims thanks for making my watercooling seem less... kool. lol.
03-21-2007, 09:37 AM
mad mikee

Thanks Tony, UnR, and Andy

Always worthwhile waiting for the people in the know to come in and un-muddy the waters a bit.

Now just for grins, does removing the IHS and make the Core flat help, and what is a good guess (emphasis on GUESS/speculation / intuition/hunch) on how much it might help :shrug:

Thanks MikeE

/Me sits back to await realities of the future :D
03-22-2007, 11:10 AM
XS Janus

they talk about 100$ price?
http://www.matbe.com/actualites/1571...arbon-waycool/
Some new pics on the site also...
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03-22-2007, 11:43 AM
andyOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

looks like unregistered just gave us a slightly better idea but we now want hard numbers :D

Unregistered is one of the engineers! I hope he has better knowledge of this non-finalzed product! :banana:

As far as price, that may be the target. Again this product is not ready to hit the shelves. Hopefully we will all have more info soon.
03-22-2007, 11:48 AM
theteamaqua

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyOCZ

Unregistered is one of the engineers! I hope he has better knowledge of this non-finalzed product! :banana:

As far as price, that may be the target. Again this product is not ready to hit the shelves. Hopefully we will all have more info soon.

havent u send it to review sites?? i;d like to see how it performs against tower 120
03-22-2007, 12:03 PM
XS Janus

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyOCZ

Unregistered is one of the engineers! I hope he has better knowledge of this non-finalzed product! :banana:

As far as price, that may be the target. Again this product is not ready to hit the shelves. Hopefully we will all have more info soon.

Cool!
But since this board can also be considered as XtremeSpeculation our bickering and brainstorming will definitely continue. :D
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03-22-2007, 12:44 PM
RyderOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by theteamaqua

havent u send it to review sites?? i;d like to see how it performs against tower 120

The product is still 2 - 3 months out, there are no review samples to send yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by XS Janus

Cool!
But since this board can also be considered as XtremeSpeculation our bickering and brainstorming will definitely continue. :D

I will buy that for a dollar ;) :D
03-22-2007, 02:54 PM
XS Janus

^2$ and I'm signing the doted line! :D
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03-22-2007, 03:12 PM
andyOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by theteamaqua

havent u send it to review sites?? i;d like to see how it performs against tower 120

A prototype was shown at CEBIT, the big computer show in Germany taking place now. No one has seen this except the OCZ engineers before this.
03-22-2007, 03:15 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyOCZ

A prototype was shown at CEBIT, the big computer show in Taiwan taking place now. No one has seen this except the OCZ engineers before this.

So where's the piece of paper to sign up as a "OCZ Engineer"? j/k:D
Can you tell that I'm VERY interested in this?;)
03-22-2007, 03:23 PM
[XC] gomeler

If it can really dissipate 300 watts at decent temps (50 celsius with a 25 celsius ambient) then I am sure people will jump all over it. If it only offers a slight performance increase over the current metal monsters then I expect it to sell worse than the PS3. 3 months is too long to wate, somebody steal an ES :p:
03-22-2007, 04:21 PM
dinos22

wonder if this same sort of material can be used in water cooling as well

anyways sounds intriguing >> let's wait a couple of months and see what happens :toast:
03-22-2007, 04:44 PM
serialk11r

Quote:

Originally Posted by s1rrah

personally, i think we should boycott the release of this thing; i'd sure hate to see the polar ice caps diminish even more rapidly than they already are!

:)

lol stop using your pencil then, IT HAS CARBON :eek: OMFG WE'RE GONNA DIE CUZ PENCILS ARE CAUSING GLOBAL WARMING!
03-22-2007, 04:51 PM
Kobalt

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r

lol stop using your pencil then, IT HAS CARBON :eek: OMFG WE'RE GONNA DIE CUZ PENCILS ARE CAUSING GLOBAL WARMING!

Solid carbon is completely different from carbon dioxide :slap:. Please tell me you knew this.
03-22-2007, 04:55 PM
serialk11r

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobalt

Solid carbon is completely different from carbon dioxide :slap:. Please tell me you knew this.

Yea duh I knew it, I was poking fun at s1rrah :)
03-22-2007, 04:56 PM
Kobalt

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r

Yea duh I knew it, I was poking fun at s1rrah :)

Okay good I was getting worried for humanity.
03-22-2007, 05:18 PM
perkam

We'll have to wait for performance review to judge whether the price/materials are satisfactory.

Perkam
03-22-2007, 05:42 PM
FghtinIrshNvrDi

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r

lol stop using your pencil then, IT HAS CARBON :eek: OMFG WE'RE GONNA DIE CUZ PENCILS ARE CAUSING GLOBAL WARMING!

LMAO!

Just... *sputter* sit real still and *holds breath* try not to breathe *cough*

Ryan
03-22-2007, 06:04 PM
s1rrah

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r

Yea duh I knew it, I was poking fun at s1rrah :)

thanks for poking fun at me! believe me, it's seriously appreciated!

and, like you, in the spirit of fun for all ... i was poking fun at the whole global warming craze.

:)
04-25-2007, 04:10 PM
adamsleath

...so is this thing any closer to coming out retail?

...and i suppose the answer is 'yes', but when, how much and how cool?
04-25-2007, 04:15 PM
RyderOCZ

Closer yes, prototype available for temp testing?... Not yet ;)
04-25-2007, 04:17 PM
adamsleath

..mmm crossing fingers that with stated 300w dissipation this thing might actually be capable of keeping most cpu's that much closer to ambient temperature...? depends muchly on thermal transfer at the base obviously.
04-25-2007, 04:55 PM
Mad1723

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamsleath

..mmm crossing fingers that with stated 300w dissipation this thing might actually be capable of keeping most cpu's that much closer to ambient temperature...? depends muchly on thermal transfer at the base obviously.

OCZ stated 400W in fact... so I can't wait to see what it is in fact :p:
04-25-2007, 05:00 PM
One_Hertz

helooo peltiers on air!
04-25-2007, 05:01 PM
Okda

yes this cooler i think will be the link between extreme air cooling and watercooling , or at least this is what i hope
04-25-2007, 05:30 PM
Anavel0

Man almost forgot about this cooler with all the buzz around the new Thermalright Ultra-120 Xtreme and IFX-14. Anymore news on the cooler? I'm still really interested in it's design.
04-25-2007, 05:49 PM
death metal

I am wating for far tooooooo long :)....
04-29-2007, 07:31 PM
stealthbomber

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad1723

OCZ stated 400W in fact... so I can't wait to see what it is in fact :p:

I'll believe it when I see some insane voltages pumped into a heavily overclocked quad core chip. :D
04-29-2007, 07:34 PM
m0da

400w heat dissipation :O
ON AIR?? :OOO
Very nice job if it pulls through @ OCZ!
04-29-2007, 07:56 PM
Revv23

i feel like this was just a gimmick to get ocz in headlines for cebit...

ill be first in line if it is really a top performer tho.
04-29-2007, 10:38 PM
andyOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revv23

i feel like this was just a gimmick to get ocz in headlines for cebit...

ill be first in line if it is really a top performer tho.

No gimmicks. We only showed a mock-up at cebit and never stated a release date. Progress is being made, so hang tight!

I can't say much more at this time.
04-29-2007, 10:42 PM
Nanometer

Is that your way of saying it's a decent performer? ;) lol
04-29-2007, 10:48 PM
p8ntslinger676

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyOCZ

No gimmicks. We only showed a mock-up at cebit and never stated a release date. Progress is being made, so hang tight!

I can't say much more at this time.

where do yall get the carbon bar stock for the base, cus i would love to get my hands on some of that to mill up :D
04-29-2007, 10:53 PM
andyOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by p8ntslinger676

where do yall get the carbon bar stock for the base, cus i would love to get my hands on some of that to mill up :D

This carbon material is proprietary and is being used under license. I doubt you can go into Carbon Depot and buy it off the shelf. ;)
05-01-2007, 11:46 PM
Okda

a small question to the OCZ guys

what is the expected height of this cooler ?
05-02-2007, 12:03 AM
adamsleath

i still have crossed fingers.
05-02-2007, 12:27 AM
Daveb2012

this is a really old thread, is their news on this cooler?
05-02-2007, 12:43 AM
Okda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daveb2012

this is a really old thread, is their news on this cooler?

check below

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyOCZ

No gimmicks. We only showed a mock-up at cebit and never stated a release date. Progress is being made, so hang tight!

I can't say much more at this time.
05-02-2007, 01:25 PM
jamiet757

what are the benefits of a carbon-based cooler? does it have better heat transfer than copper?
05-02-2007, 01:38 PM
andyOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamiet757

what are the benefits of a carbon-based cooler? does it have better heat transfer than copper?

Simply put, if carbon was not superior we would use copper since it's allot easier to get.
05-02-2007, 03:12 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamiet757

what are the benefits of a carbon-based cooler? does it have better heat transfer than copper?

Old style nuclear reactors used graphite to line the cooling chambers because of it's incredible ability to absorb heat. Now you do need water also as graphite can "flash" back that heat if it gets too high too fast.
Think Chernobyl:D
05-02-2007, 05:14 PM
EternityZX9

I can't wait for more information...if it's better than current high end air solutions I'll definately get this for my next upgrade....
05-19-2007, 08:10 AM
OzJustin

Any news on this cooler lately?
05-19-2007, 08:56 AM
Okda

as always when OCZ show prototypes of something u should know that it will be a long time before it reaching the market ( remember the phase cooling unit )

so if no new news about this cooler come out till IFX-14 is out, i will buy it
05-19-2007, 01:14 PM
EternityZX9

Yeah...I'd like to see this out in time for Barcelona or the Phenom processors...but considering their track record with the Cryo-Z...I'm not sure they can deliver on time (very little faith here).Might be spending my money else where, even though I do believe OCZ makes some quality parts. :shrug:
05-20-2009, 06:23 PM
DFI pit bull

So what happened to this cooler or was it just a sick joke????
05-20-2009, 06:26 PM
Nullack

Whats wrong with a company showing a prototype idea and sharing it with the community? Meh!
05-20-2009, 06:28 PM
Dr_at_Home

Oh wow .. two years ago now

guess it wasn't worth producing :shrug:
05-20-2009, 06:35 PM
Serpentarius

maybe a thin layer of carbon .... attached behind the heat pipes or something

however ... with this carbon ... we can say goodbye to the block lapping ... i recall the carbon is not as resilient unlike copper

but if they would come out the carbon thermalpaste ... then it's something to look at
05-20-2009, 06:41 PM
DFI pit bull

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nullack

Whats wrong with a company showing a prototype idea and sharing it with the community? Meh!

From all that i've read OCZ did intend to release this thing, I just think they failed and failed big.
05-20-2009, 06:50 PM
gatecrasherlok

I was very excited to see the title. Carbon fibre cooler. I thought of many different designs in my head while the browser loaded up and what do we behold. Looks like OCZ had too many tinnys when in the R&D room.
05-20-2009, 07:28 PM
Kuroimaho

Quote:

Originally Posted by EternityZX9

Yeah...I'd like to see this out in time for Barcelona or the Phenom processors...but considering their track record with the Cryo-Z...I'm not sure they can deliver on time (very little faith here).

A pity, but seems you were right.
05-20-2009, 07:30 PM
haylui

two properties of any material could make a good heat sink
1. large specific heat capacity
2. thermal conductivity

comparing carbon with copper

CARBON
Specific heat (25 °C) 8.517(graphite) J·mol−1·K−1
Thermal Conductivity (300 K) 119-165 (graphite)

COPPER
Specific Heat : (25 °C) 24.440 J·mol−1·K−1
Thermal Conductivity: (300 K) 401 W·m−1·K−1

FYI, 900-2300 (diamond) W·m−1·K−1
diamond will have better thermal conductivity than copper.
so making carbon heatsink is simply not practical unless they found a really good combination of carbon, close to the perfect structure of diamond....at a cheap price.
05-20-2009, 07:55 PM
junkmonk

you necro'd this thread just to ask if it was released?:mad:
05-20-2009, 09:30 PM
Nullack

Quote:

Originally Posted by junkmonk

you necro'd this thread just to ask if it was released?:mad:

Issue! How *dare* he do that
05-20-2009, 10:29 PM
Tuvok-LuR-

Great Scott!
05-20-2009, 10:56 PM
Bo_Fox

:shocked::shocked::shocked: What the hell is this cooler???
05-20-2009, 11:04 PM
Bo_Fox

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer

wierd.. I know that compressed carbon (diamond) has the best thermal properties of all natural materials, but I have no idea how well Carbon-Fibre would do for cooling a CPU. Anyone have any ideas?

carbon fiber sucks, man, and you know that.. :p:
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
railmeat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serra

I see products like this coming from OCZ and I start to cry. Carbon fiber is more of an insulator than conductor, and the design of this thing just screams with lack of thought. Even though they did state the final design will be different, I see a few major issues arising with the very idea of this product, not the least of which is that there's no pump listed as a part or visible. That tells me that they would be counting on *convection* of the water to cool a CPU. That's just retarded for a company who produces for enthusiasts and overclockers. The fact is that for the heat loads we use, convection simply cannot move water fast enough to be as effective as even a midrange heatpipe solution.

found some info on it-----google, 30 seconds...
http://www.overclock3d.net/news.php?...it_to_market/1
"OCZ Hydrojet has discontinued the project because the final product did not meet our requirements when it came to footprint, performance and price for consumers. While we were able to achieve many of the performance milestones we originally defined the cost of the material necessary to produce the Hydrojet was prohibitive, and did not offer what we believed to be a optimal balance of price versus performance to our customers. The Hydrojet was a great concept and we will continue to work on liquid cooling solutions, both external and self contained 100% but will only release products to market when they meet all of the requirements when it comes to performance and value for our customers. "

This was confirmed on the OCZ offical forums, in a response to someone asking when the Hydrojet would be released. The response given by the OCZ Support Forum Manager was:

The Hydrojet was cancelled, we will not be releasing it.

So the Hydrojet won't be appearing on the market, which is a pity as it had some potential. Especially for those who are interested in liquid cooling but don't want the hassle of setting a loop up. You can view the original OC3D article here, and you can also discuss in our forums here.
http://www.overclock3d.net/news.php?...it_to_market/1

so basically adding cost to build(by someone else) and profit vs so so performance,they scrapped it?profit margin was not there and performance vs other tec style setups did not make it worthwhile im sure....

other pics,specs below..again google works wonders guys.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/486

http://www.overclock3d.net/news.php?...it_to_market/1

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=28645

http://www.techpowerup.com/tags.php?tag=OCZ+HydroJet

@Serra
"That's just retarded for a company who produces for enthusiasts and overclockers."

produce?they put stickers on already made products and sell them with a good warranty.

find out who the oem is and then questions will be answerd quickly...i like original groups,not cover bands..ocz is a marketing,warranty company basically.if they made there own products these concept idead would go from drawing board,to prototype,to testing to us.there basically at the mercy of another comapany to pull something off for them.there warranty is what makes ocz good.not there stickers on another companys product...this is why i respect danger den and swiftech.all in house right to you,no middle man.

and what ever happened to the phase change CRYO-Z ??????? same senerio im thinking as this carbon thing.....?
05-21-2009, 01:33 AM
mav2000

The phase change cryo is on the website, so I guess it must be available. I wish this thing got made finally cause it looked like it had potential. I know of people who dont like OCZ stuff, but I for one am all for OCZ and wish they had actually made a commercial version of this.
05-21-2009, 01:46 AM
saaya

sooo what ever happened to this heatsink?
will it ever be released?
05-21-2009, 02:45 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by haylui

so making carbon heatsink is simply not practical unless they found a really good combination of carbon, close to the perfect structure of diamond....at a cheap price.

CNT, look into it. ;)
05-21-2009, 02:52 AM
Jamesrt2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

sooo what ever happened to this heatsink?
will it ever be released?

2/3 posts above yours buddy :P

discontinued as performance/price wasn't up to expectations. :)
05-21-2009, 06:50 AM
saaya

heh, sorry, didnt read through that long weird fragmented post by railmeat hehe :D

so its cancelled huh?
i always had doubts it would ever come out, but im surprised they were direct enough to say its cancelled instead of claiming its just delayed :D
07-01-2009, 07:05 PM
unregistered

It was cancelled alright, the manufacturing cost would have been over US$ 100 and there is simply no way to justify a retail price of ~ $160 for a fraction of a degree better cooling compared to a $49.99 product.
07-01-2009, 07:33 PM
Manicdan

how was it so bad in performance? the main theories sounded like it could be great for getting the heat from the cpu, to the radiator (we all see heatpipes and water trying their best, but surface area is only so limited)
07-01-2009, 07:53 PM
unregistered

No, the performance wasn't that bad, it was just too expensive to manufacture. We had some prototypes that kicked real ass but unforunately, there was just no way to justify that kind of price tag.
07-01-2009, 07:58 PM
Boogerlad

Who is we? How would you know? Were you one of the developers?
07-01-2009, 09:32 PM
unregistered

Yes, I used to work for the company who originally developed the concept. This goes back all the way to 2004
07-01-2009, 09:52 PM
dinos22

yeah the price tag would have killed it quick
smart move

too bad though and who knows maybe someone will figure out a way to make it viable

the other issue would have been how brittle carbon is. i wonder what sort of an effect that would have with long terms use
07-02-2009, 05:04 AM
BrowncoatGR

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5-Clicks

I've never been a die-hard fan of OCZ because of that. They put too much gimmick and bling-bling in their marketing. That being said, they do make awesome PSUs which I've owned several of...but they haven't ever really had record setting RAM or more recent GPU overclocks (except in the early days, when their BH-5 and the EB series were good). They've never been good at cooling methods.

OCZ branded PSUs are usually so-so, their RAM is great for the price most of the time though. Now if you're talking about PC P&C that's another story. BTW lets wait for some tests before jumping to conclusions.

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