Printable View
With Vince's guide to how to properly insulate these things maybe one day when I am too old to bench in the cold I will buy one off him and start off with some dry ice. These look so well designed even a fool like me could not go too far wrong I think ! :D
Regards
Andy
I received a very nice package the other day. Arrived just in time for Xmas :)
Thanks Vince! :toast:
I managed to give it a quick test run before I left my "office" for a holiday break.
I'll let the pics do the talking:
http://img.techpowerup.org/061222/package.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/061222/package2.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/061222/package3.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/061222/container.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/061222/inaction.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/061222/actioncloseup.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/061222/afterrun2.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/061222/closecold.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/061222/frozencontainer.jpg
Using the average X6800 and DICE+antifreeze I managed to pull a 4.8GHz Spi1M run without too much trying (Vcore 1.7V, both cores enabled):
Spi screenshot
I have previously tried the same CPU with my old container and then it maxed at 4550MHz. It was with a different board and 0.1V lower Vcore but I'm more than sure that the container's cooling performance was partially involved in the 250MHz boost I just saw! :D
I know its not designed for Dice and look forward to do some LN2 next week - with higher Vcore too of course ;)
Happy Holidays!
PS. for some reason I like these two pics quite a bit :D 1 2
Good stuff Macci, even better to see you firing up again. :woot:
I had a chance to play with that Dragonpot last weekend, best pot made to date.
macci why you use a dfi mobo this nobo not the best to conroe:cool:
you can get some like p5w64 ws pro and whit dice go to 5100mhz:slobber: :slobber: :rolleyes:
He works for ATI, i think he is a motherboard designer. Don't remember exactly. Just know he was hired by ATI a while ago.
I think macci is going to :slap: you for being ignorant ;) He wouldn't use the mobo if it sucked.Quote:
Originally Posted by prosk8
Nice to see you back in action, will you stay?
Impressive ... 250MHz. boost by switching the pots. Great work !
One of the 3 best 3d overclockers in the world ever having pots made by one of the other 3 best 3d overclockers :D
Now that's cool.
Sami, can you test this with a good X6800, 2001 and single r600 ? I am sure it will not break any NDA's as only we care about 2001 anymore :)
Don't disappear ..please stick around, we have missed your knowledge on the 3dmark forum.
Regards
Andy
I love the blue glow around the unit Sami. Glad you like it so far and it's about time you start posting some killer results again. I think your pouring hand and the evo unit will make a nice combination on some ln2 sir.
Can't wait for that.
Pretty cool that this kind of performance can come from only a 3inch tall 1.5lb copper unit eh?.
Good luck Sami :toast:
This unit has got what it takes to compete for WR's with the right chip just like any other top performing unit.
It's really in a leauge of it's own and to compare it with a big $$ full sized copper unit is a foolish argument :D lol.
Save your money for trying diff chips because that is what matters the most as many other top guys have proven with the piles of chips they tried to find a good one to compete or take WR ;). I have benched/tried 2 conroes and 1 KF chip so far since core2 launch myself btw, and I think I'm doing pretty good so far with them.
Now thats a nice present, congrats macci. I'd really like to see two more unit's sitting alongside the Evo if you know what I mean, maybe Santa will return :D :toast:
Recieved mine today. Very happy with my purchase and service. Looking forward to beating my hoe(cpu ;) ) with it. :D
^^^ Assuming my card and cpu aren't too bad of Duds. :P
We have missed your knowledge, so as zakelwe said: Please stick around Macci!Quote:
Originally Posted by zakelwe
Kingpin; Those are some fine units, and they perform right under par! (like in Golf, the best ones plays under par..)
to k|ngp|n and all Dragon Evo2.2 owners:
how are the copper and aluminum parts attached together?
is it possible to unattach the parts of the tube?
Hey i think it is pressed!Quote:
how are the copper and aluminum parts attached together?
is it possible to unattach the parts of the tube?
Regards
It's not possible to unattach the parts...
And yes, they're pressed.
I wish I will make such a tube in next month or so :D
I think with 15mm threaded coupling should be best, maybe some AS Cèramique between copper and alu ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
Threading was an option I considered for this unit. I think the Italian guys have used one like that before. Best to design a rubber O ring to seal off the two portions when threads fully tight. You'd want to use an industrial chemical resistant rubber for stock. It could be an option on future revisions, but I'd want to test the longevity of the seal first. Not too mention user error :D. In my mind I kept seeing some excited kid cranking his new tube onto the base with it misthreaded and trashing the threads ruining the unit and making it unusable lol. I'd want to use some big fat gnarly threads too.
if I just put al tube over cu solid part, when I go subzero al should squeeze cu right? of course if al iner diameter is lets say 76.5mm, and outer cu is 76.2mm??? It can be easily take off on room temp and be solid when go subzero.
76,5*dT*23,2*10^-6
dT=80K
=0,142mm
76,5-0,142=76,358
=not good
Just make them both 76,5mm or to be sure make inner diameter of alu tube smaller than outer diameter of copper and then it should work ok.
tnx m8.
Hi Mate could you tell how much vcore u put into the E6600 Thanks.
Also if you dont mind could u post the sys specs of the Hardware Thanks .Again:clap:
Quote:
Originally Posted by PallMall
Any news about the price?
Or is priceless? :D
Guys: A nice request from someone who isn't taking sides:
Play nice please! Take a breath and remember that there's always differences of opinions but we're supposed to be friends here.
Thanks!
Dave
Guys if I see one more banana/swear words here I am giving immediate ban... Keep this thread clean and stop the fighting... MM is not on these forums for a reason so keep his name off it... Thanks!
Update:
The pot is extremly good! It's a lot of fun to bench with it ln2... it holds load of quadcore without problem. But the quadcores using a lot of ln2 -> 100 liters in 12 hours :D
impressions:
200 liters ln2 dewar, filled with 100 litres:
http://octs.ripping.org/ln2session/4.jpg
QX6700 @ EVGA 680i (full modded), 8800GTX (stock cooler):
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/9908/dsc007513km.jpg
LN2 Session by Duke/Entsafter/gianni-gt OCTS
impressive tank !
nice bench rig !
We didn't have only one rig:
Intel System (gianni-gt was running an amd setup)
2x QX6700, Xeon 3060 (and a lot of other cpus)
2x P5B Deluxe, 2x EVGA 680i, Asus Striker Extreme
4x 8800GTX
a lot of DDR666-DDR1000 D9 ram (D9GMH and D9GKX)
2x Dragon Evo, 1x mousepot rev.1, 2x otternose's pot, 2x piotres 8800gtx tubes, 2x jans gpu cooper pots
We had a lot of troubles and wasn't able to run the quads with higher voltage than 1.70v (1.75-1.88 wasn't good for OC)...
So we could only reach 4650Mhz 3DMark06 (3700 would probably have been stable, but we run out of ln2)...
We didn't have ln2 to cool the 8800gtx -> prepared them with vmods and coolers..
Well i guess you should post more pictures! love to watch the Evo's in action!Quote:
Originally Posted by Entsafter
Pls hit the link.. there are a lot of pics!Quote:
Originally Posted by Entsafter
Really nice, i like that dewar, how much did you pay for 100l of LN2 ;)
Regards
145 Euro for the ln2 (1.45 per litre)
65 Euro for transport (dewar and ln2)
1.60 Euro per day for dewar
Well it sure lookt like u guys had a lot of fun with a lot of expansive hardware :P
Looks like you guys had a blast there :D
Glad you like the unit. It can handle quadcore quite well. Slowly getting into the swing of things again after taking some time off and was playing with my Quadcore on the EVO tonight with some 3dmark2006 and single 8800gtx with very mild card clocks, really just focusing on pushing the chip. Should have some 5.1ghz runs done soon and with my best VGA clocks pushing the card hard, close to 19k single 06' should go down. SLI numbers will be sick. Broke 7600 cpu score already on another run:
http://www.overclockingpin.com/5050m...20on%20EVO.jpg
Nice quad, lapped yet?
Also, have you tried the Zalman grease?
I will run the evo again with the 680i board we used. Ill see if I can match you on cpu.
I'm still working on getting a board, once I do I will have a go and give the results of my test, all of my testing will be done by feel, which I'm pretty good at wingin' it. :)
Kingpin, how long time did you use on the design, and who inspiered you in the progress?
You are on of my favorite OC'ers in the world, and has for sure inspired me to manage clocks I didn't expect myself to manage!
let the testing begin ! got me a prescott and 20L ln² so the dragon hass gone get in a fight ^^
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90...r/DSC00064.jpg
over:banana::banana::banana::banana:ed LN² whet from -158°C to -175°c and then -192°C all in 3sec :p: .
the X6800 is ready for some benching to ;)
Good luck !Quote:
Originally Posted by blind_ripper
Hey, is that SpongeBob SquarePants just above your digital thermometer ? Do you use him for wiping up Ln2 spills ? :eek:
Regards
Andy
thx so much andy .
vince i have to tell u this tube is just :o for temp controll ;)
woke up and with do is see a empty dewar :s , the vacum wall off the dewar must be broke .
15L off LN² gone in to the air :( .
there goes my fun for this weekend
Ouch that's very sad :(
Unlapped quad chip still and no I haven't tried the zalman grease. Better than ceramique FUG?Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
I think so, I love the way it seperates when sub zero.
Are you talking about the Zalman STG1 Thermal Compound? The specs say -45*C, does it work with lower temps?
5200mhz Quadcore EVO2.2 LN2 cooled CPUZ screenshot 4 cores fully enabled :D :
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=165601
at home :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by PallMall
Troll?Quote:
Originally Posted by PallMall
You've to be a real kiddie...
You can't compare cherry picked, pretested hardware ... for container tests you need the same rig... exactly the same... but you're too stupid or a too big fanboy to accept this.
Well, no need to be un-civil or have disrespect towards each other....especially in my thread :slapass:. Of course the best samples of hardware are used for most of the top WR's we see ...that's always pretty much been the case regardless of cooling.
Skills and experience play a big part in it too. I am posting my results to show what my EVO unit is capable of in the right hands with a decent chip.
I put alot of r&d into designing a "capable" smaller unit and I'm quite proud of it, but I still have the utmost respect for others including MM for what he has done with his units. No need for trash talking others work, even though it's been done to my work in the past.
That being said, Evo rev2.3 is done and currently bench testing.. it is leaner and meaner than ever :D...pics soon.
Also in the machining process of a new semi-full-sized copper LN2 unit that is diff than anything I've done yet, gonna be a real monster :D.
It's being cut from a 13lb copper block lol.
looking forward !
whats gone be the diffrents with 2.2rev ? size and wight ?
A new dragon pot ?
This is interesting ... :D
I guess it would be a 3" wide, 6" tall cu part :)Quote:
Originally Posted by k|ngp|n
Do you have any trouble with mobo flexing with heavy tubes? Mines only 1.1Kg so I cant relate (yet!) :)
Lookin forward to pics of what ur working on Vince!
Helo everybody... anyone know how can i get on dragon evo kit here in argentina????
I'm very interested on it, here in agrentina anybody do something like this!
Please help me!
Send PM to k|ngp|n ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by nrmartinazzo
Still testing and making minor revisions on the new EVO, dont want to post anything till it's completely finished and ready to go. The other monster should be done this week some time.
it isn't pot design who are holding us back to pass 5.5 on quad, the pot quality you see on a long run, 3d mark or maybe even better 32m Super Pi, if temp fluctuate under run with 3C or even less u have one hell of a pot and pouring skilz :DQuote:
Originally Posted by PallMall
I wish I could say that lol. I am hopeful for better clocks ;) I can only afford to do maybe 2-3 rev of the bigger one so i have to get it right quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by PallMall
I have been doing all of my "heavy" competitive benching for awhile now using the evo against guys that are all using big massive full sized copper units for the most part. The evo is a bad-ass little unit thats for sure and it held it's own. The F1 will be a bad-ass unit period :D
now i know why pallmall is holding his money in his pocket for a whille :p
hopefull that bigg bad-ass will do good vince ;)
No teasers ? :(
Just wait for the 8950GX2 and it'll be a piece of cake:P
damn that is a sexy pot, cant wait to see the new revision :)
iv been making a few prototype LN2 pots myself, k|ngp|n if you get a chance could you PM me some contact info?
thanks
KINGPIN !!!
what about the dragon rev 2.3 + pics ??
We want to see it .
also what is the dry ice/ln2 TEMP with the 2.3 ?
Nice pot KP..... I cant wait to see the next rev.....
Its nice to see 2 out of the 3 of who I consider the best overclocker in the world in the same thread... maybe that blond haired guy in a tuxedo will show up and all 3 will be present.....
Nice to see macci playing with frozen stuff once again.... I hope you get back to some serious benching and be at the top once again... you are and always will be the "best" and we miss your sick scores..... :toast: