ASUS P5B Deluxe 0711 BIOS Cold Boot solved

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10-05-2006, 09:37 PM
bing

Quote:

Originally Posted by earthman

I had the same problem as described in point 1. As some have pointed out that you need to clear CMOS after you have flash the BIOS. That solved my problem.

Nah...they'll stay as OC noob, c'mon as I pointed out, some of them don't even know how to read a thread !
They just know how to do a whining post.. lol
10-06-2006, 03:10 AM
Cappie

For people having problems flashing bios or are afraid to use the EZflash or Winflash follow below tips to do a simple clean DOS flash. And this without the need of having a Floppy drive,

Follow this link,

http://www.boodaa.de/index.php?optio...d=22&Itemid=31

and make sure you also have .NET framework 2.0(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...isplayLang=en). Then just download the 0.6 final,

http://www.boodaa.de/download/BootDi...ick%20v0.6.exe

and download this tool,

http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vm...d21-050404.zip

then just follow the onscreen tutorial,

http://www.boodaa.de/download/Videos...o-Tutorial.wmv

and make sure your USB-stick is connected to your PC, it sure works like a charm. You'll have a USB bootable dosstick in under 3 min with help of these little tools.

Enjoy!!!
10-06-2006, 03:17 AM
heikis

flashed my bord with the asus update in windows and it did a couple of cold boots (the setup was configured @ default) but then it worked like a charm. and no sign of instability (401FSB)
historical day :D !
10-06-2006, 03:51 AM
Random

Do you guys remove the onboard battery to clear the cmos ?

Some of us will appricate a clear set-by-set guide on how-to flash your bios with afudos.

Thank you.
10-06-2006, 03:59 AM
heikis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random

Do you guys remove the onboard battery to clear the cmos ?

Some of us will appricate a clear set-by-set guide on how-to flash your bios with afudos.

Thank you.

the asusupdate has an option "clearCMOS after update". and its selected by default.
10-06-2006, 04:10 AM
phile

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random

Do you guys remove the onboard battery to clear the cmos ?

Some of us will appricate a clear set-by-set guide on how-to flash your bios with afudos.

Thank you.

To flash the BIOS using the AFUDOS method, you'll need 2 floppies. The first floppy will be your boot disc, so format that (in Windows) as FAT and make it bootable. Format the second disc in the same manner, but do not make it bootable. On this second disc you will copy the AFUDOS executable (afudos.exe - found on the P5BD CDROM) and your BIOS file, renamed to P5BD.ROM.

With your two floppies ready to go, reboot and enter the BIOS. Configure the boot order placing the floppy drive at the top of the list. Save and reboot with the bootable floppy in the drive.

Once you see the A: prompt, remove the boot disc and insert floppy number 2.

Now, type the following, at the A: prompt:

afudos /iP5BD.ROM /pbnc /n

Note: The 'i' in the above line is NOT a typo.

-phil
10-06-2006, 04:13 AM
adamant415

Quote:

Originally Posted by phile

To flash the BIOS using the AFUDOS method, you'll need 2 floppies. The first floppy will be your boot disc, so format that (in Windows) as FAT and make it bootable. Format the second disc in the same manner, but do not make it bootable. On this second disc you will copy the AFUDOS executable (afudos.exe - found on the P5WDH CDROM) and your BIOS file, renamed to P5WDH.ROM.

With your two floppies ready to go, reboot and enter the BIOS. Configure the boot order placing the floppy drive at the top of the list. Save and reboot with the bootable floppy in the drive.

Once you see the A: prompt, remove the boot disc and insert floppy number 2.

Now, type the following, at the A: prompt:

afudos /iP5WDH.ROM /pbnc /n

Note: The 'i' in the above line is NOT a typo.

-phil

I don't know if I would want to try using iP5WDH to flash a p5b.
10-06-2006, 04:15 AM
phile

I updated the post to reflect the P5BD. It's the same method, regardless of board model, just as long as you're using the proper BIOS ROM.

-phil
10-06-2006, 04:46 AM
Cappie

You don't necesseraly need to rename the romfile, it could just as well have said,

afudos /ip5bd0711.rom /pbnc /n --->> reflecting the latest 0711 bios for P5B Deluxe

that renaming of biosfile is only necessary I think when using EZflash.
10-06-2006, 05:03 AM
ssabripo

Thus far, the best methods of updating (and easiest) I've found are:

1. using the Asus EZ-Flash utility in BIOS (not Alt-f2, but goto BIOS and update). Have your ROM file in a floppy or USB drive ready.

2. using windows Asus update...very simple, although it crashed a couple of times, and you still have to goto BIOS to update your settings, etc.

3. After having issues with AFUDOS, I never bothered with it again.
10-06-2006, 06:06 AM
phile

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cappie

You don't necesseraly need to rename the romfile, it could just as well have said,

afudos /ip5bd0711.rom /pbnc /n --->> reflecting the latest 0711 bios for P5B Deluxe

that renaming of biosfile is only necessary I think when using EZflash.

I suggested renaming the file only to shorten it, thus eliminating the possibility that DOS would truncate the name, causing an unnecessary problem for some.

-phil
10-06-2006, 06:25 AM
Random

Quote:

Originally Posted by phile

To flash the BIOS using the AFUDOS method, you'll need 2 floppies. The first floppy will be your boot disc, so format that (in Windows) as FAT and make it bootable. Format the second disc in the same manner, but do not make it bootable. On this second disc you will copy the AFUDOS executable (afudos.exe - found on the P5BD CDROM) and your BIOS file, renamed to P5BD.ROM.

With your two floppies ready to go, reboot and enter the BIOS. Configure the boot order placing the floppy drive at the top of the list. Save and reboot with the bootable floppy in the drive.

Once you see the A: prompt, remove the boot disc and insert floppy number 2.

Now, type the following, at the A: prompt:

afudos /iP5BD.ROM /pbnc /n

Note: The 'i' in the above line is NOT a typo.

-phil

The first step is quick format the floppy disk in FAT mode, and create an ms-dos startup disk, is that right ?

What about setting bios defaults and clearing cmos ? do we skip those steps ?

Thanks.
10-06-2006, 06:38 AM
phile

Setting BIOS to defaults and clearing CMOS is up to you. I see no reason why these are necessay, and have never experienced any problems as a result of not doing them.

In any case, part of what the /pbnc switch does is to destroy the CMOS data.

-phil
10-06-2006, 06:51 AM
Random

Quote:

Originally Posted by phile

Setting BIOS to defaults and clearing CMOS is up to you. I see no reason why these are necessay, and have never experienced any problems as a result of not doing them.

In any case, part of what the /pbnc switch does is to destroy the CMOS data.

-phil

Allright thanks alot for the help. :)
10-06-2006, 11:06 AM
JoeBar

Come on guys. "How to flash bios" is written on the m/b's manual... :p:
10-06-2006, 11:28 AM
sierra_bound

Quote:

Originally Posted by phile

I suggested renaming the file only to shorten it, thus eliminating the possibility that DOS would truncate the name, causing an unnecessary problem for some.

-phil

P5BD0711.ROM is the correct DOS abbreviation for the latest file.

If you're not sure about the correct abbreviation for the bios file, type:

dir/w/p

This will call up a directory of the files on the floppy with the correct abbreviations.
10-06-2006, 11:56 AM
phile

You have precisely illustrated why I renamed (shortened) the BIOS file, in my instructions. :clap:

-phil :stick:
10-06-2006, 02:59 PM
sierra_bound

Quote:

Originally Posted by phile

You have precisely illustrated why I renamed (shortened) the BIOS file, in my instructions. :clap:

-phil :stick:

Actually what I illustrated is why renaming the file is a waste of time.

Are you are wasting bandwidth here with this discussion.
10-06-2006, 03:47 PM
phile

Now, I hardly think things call for such tone, Sierra. Despite providing a set of instructions that work perfectly as is, you felt the need to suggest a minor alteration. We obviously disagree which approach is the easier of the two, but do not accuse me of wasting space on these boards when it is you who decided to fix what was not broken.

-phil
10-06-2006, 03:56 PM
sierra_bound

"Fix what was not broken"? Your logic is a little warped. I don't rename the bios file before I flash. So how is that fixing something?

I will let the members decide who is wasting whose time. In a meantime, feel free to carry on this discussion without me.
10-07-2006, 06:34 AM
Cappie

To summarize whats been going on in this thread, the way I see it from reading all the replies, is that people using windows asusupdate are more likely to experience the cold boot bug than users who'r doing it with AFUDOS.

Maybe the people who'r still experiencing the cold bug after flashing should try and use the AFUDOS method and report back their findings. Also write down if you did the load optimized defaults, clear cmos, whatever thing and in what order.
10-07-2006, 10:50 AM
ssabripo

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Well....711 is working good so far now for me!:)

I will keep these settings for 24/7 :

Vcore = 1.3875
Vdimm = 2.25
Vfsb = 1.4
NB = 1.4
SB = 1.45

fsb = 450, RAM:fsb 1:1, mem at 4-4-4-8-4-35

http://upshizzle.com/gallery/albums/...k05_4_9728.jpg
10-07-2006, 11:38 AM
Cappie

Do you still have cold boot issues ssabripo?
10-07-2006, 12:20 PM
ssabripo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cappie

Do you still have cold boot issues ssabripo?

nope....:confused:

it did it the first time I installed it, and now everything seems fine. One curious thing is that the temperatures went up by 2deg C with this bios...wierd.

but other than that, I'm fine.

running 51-52 idle / 57-58 load.
10-07-2006, 12:24 PM
JoeBar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cappie

To summarize whats been going on in this thread, the way I see it from reading all the replies, is that people using windows asusupdate are more likely to experience the cold boot bug than users who'r doing it with AFUDOS.

Maybe the people who'r still experiencing the cold bug after flashing should try and use the AFUDOS method and report back their findings. Also write down if you did the load optimized defaults, clear cmos, whatever thing and in what order.

I can't see where u realized that. I also updated though winxp and no cold boot.
10-07-2006, 12:38 PM
Cappie

Its more of an educated guess, windows comes with firewalls, virusscanners, memory clogups, whatever, pure DOS is allways better, some users here already pointed that out. I'll have my friend do an update to 0711 from DOS and if he stops having the cold bug issue then there's some truth to it cuz he already tried flashing from asus windows update and he's still got the cold boot bug. Will report back when he has flashed with AFUDOS.
10-07-2006, 12:51 PM
bachus_anonym

0711 fixes the problem, period. PC will still ocassionally shutdown when coming out of BIOS, e.g. often after changing CAS latency or at certain FSB speeds. But it is way, and I mean way, less frequent compared to previous BIOSes, when system would always shutdown, regardless If you even changed anything in BIOS or not. Plus, with the new BIOS, I have yet to see machine to shutdown when restarting from Windows (which was always the case before). Also, system will still do the "double-start" or "double-spin" (or whatever you want to call it) when starting up cold (e.g. after normal shutdown and then turning off your PSU). That's no biggie at all, as power to HDDs is not being cut-off.

AFUDOS will flash whole area, including NVRAM and DMI. In some cases it's better than Asus Update or EZ Flash (btw, I flashed 0711 using EZ Flash and had no problems after clearing CMOS). For instance, for those that have problems with PC Probe II install (saying mobo does not support it), look in CPU-Z Mainboard tab and check if mobo information is there. After one BIOS flash before I had this happen that this info was missing (blank) and I could not instal either PC Probe II nor AiSuite. No flash helped until AFUDOS was used. After that, all went back to normal. Just something to keep in mind...
10-07-2006, 01:57 PM
kman540

Within the 0711 Bios, Is there an option to enable the Serial ATA BootRom for a raid configuration like it says on page 5-30 of ythe manual or am I missing the obvious? :confused:
10-07-2006, 09:50 PM
Pjoeloe

yes bachus_anonym, it`s nice that the cold boot problem is almost gone, but what I realy want to know is, what solved this problem in the bios? :)

I mean, why is asus not aplying this to all the bios updates ? I`ve bought a second sound card, so I must get a 2 pci based board

only option is asus and my local dealer only has the DH version but this board has the shutdowns on starting ( and restarting ) HDD power downs with scary clicking :toast: and I think it`s time to solve this thing
10-07-2006, 11:15 PM
bachus_anonym

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pjoeloe

yes bachus_anonym, it`s nice that the cold boot problem is almost gone, but what I realy want to know is, what solved this problem in the bios? :)

I have no idea what they did but latest BIOSes for P5B non-Deluxe and P5B-E (both i965) also have this "feature" removed (at least according to changelogs).
10-08-2006, 06:32 AM
Rattle

I still get cold boot with new bios and I had lots of problems with FSB, back to 614 for me.
10-08-2006, 10:56 AM
Devious

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cappie

For people having problems flashing bios or are afraid to use the EZflash or Winflash follow below tips to do a simple clean DOS flash. And this without the need of having a Floppy drive,

Follow this link,

http://www.boodaa.de/index.php?optio...d=22&Itemid=31

and make sure you also have .NET framework 2.0(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...isplayLang=en). Then just download the 0.6 final,

http://www.boodaa.de/download/BootDi...ick%20v0.6.exe

and download this tool,

http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vm...d21-050404.zip

then just follow the onscreen tutorial,

http://www.boodaa.de/download/Videos...o-Tutorial.wmv

and make sure your USB-stick is connected to your PC, it sure works like a charm. You'll have a USB bootable dosstick in under 3 min with help of these little tools.

Enjoy!!!

Followed that tutorial and got my pen drive to be bootable, the problem is it only has the 1.44mb capacity so cant also hold the afudos and bios rom.
10-08-2006, 11:17 AM
Mark099

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rattle

I still get cold boot with new bios and I had lots of problems with FSB, back to 614 for me.

Flash 0711 twice, then clear the CMOS. I think you'll be fine. I have been using 0711 since it has come out and haven't had any stability issues.
10-08-2006, 11:22 AM
Cappie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devious

Followed that tutorial and got my pen drive to be bootable, the problem is it only has the 1.44mb capacity so cant also hold the afudos and bios rom.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=118576

Check for my updated tutorial and that should fix your problem, just burn biosfiles to cd and off ya go. Remember to read the stuff in RED.
10-08-2006, 11:33 AM
ken

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devious

Followed that tutorial and got my pen drive to be bootable, the problem is it only has the 1.44mb capacity so cant also hold the afudos and bios rom.

how come? afudos and the bios rom fit nicely on my bootable floopy disk :D
10-08-2006, 12:09 PM
Mark099

Quote:

Originally Posted by ken

how come? afudos and the bios rom fit nicely on my bootable floopy disk :D

Not the more recent Asus BIOS files. They will fit on a blank disk, but not one with boot files on it (unless you have managed to compress them).
10-08-2006, 12:16 PM
ken

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark099

Not the more recent Asus BIOS files. They will fit on a blank disk, but not one with boot files on it (unless you have managed to compress them).

huh? Ive just flashed my mobo with the 0711 :S depends on how you make the bootable disk I guess ;) I use DrDOS, everything incl the afudos + bios rom + files take 1.16MB :D
10-09-2006, 01:38 AM
scoobysix

Going from 0614 to 0711, my E6600 running at 3ghz on the exact same BIOS settings, what used to be 13 hours Orthos stable now reports an error after 9 hours.

The only other difference I can think of is going from a 7900GT to a 7950GX2.

I also noticed that the CPU fan now seems to spin 100rpm slower.
10-09-2006, 09:03 AM
Devious

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cappie

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=118576

Check for my updated tutorial and that should fix your problem, just burn biosfiles to cd and off ya go. Remember to read the stuff in RED.

Tried it but it fails to load the correct ASPI for my cd rom, ive even tried all of them manually.

EDIT* I seem to have fluked this.

I used the original bootdisk2bootstick tutorial and just erased all the non hidden system files. So Autoexec.bat, command.com etc are still on there. WIth only these files i have room for afudos and my bios rom :)

The flash drive boots but gives and error and leaves you at the A: prompt. I flashed using afudos / ip5bd0711.rom /pbnc /n and it went fine. I cleared cmos afterwards.

Unfortunatly it still doesnt install Probe2 or Ai suite though :mad: :mad:
10-09-2006, 01:50 PM
Pjoeloe

Quote:

Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

I have no idea what they did but latest BIOSes for P5B non-Deluxe and P5B-E (both i965) also have this "feature" removed (at least according to changelogs).

ok, so no extra option of the world famous tRD / read delay and Row refresh cycle / Trc in the bios ? Because these things fix the cold boot...
10-09-2006, 02:45 PM
Cappie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devious

Tried it but it fails to load the correct ASPI for my cd rom, ive even tried all of them manually.

I used the original bootdisk2bootstick tutorial and just erased all the non hidden system files. So Autoexec.bat, command.com etc are still on there. WIth only these files i have room for afudos and my bios rom :)

The flash drive boots but gives and error and leaves you at the A: prompt. I flashed using afudos / ip5bd0711.rom /pbnc /n and it went fine. I cleared cmos afterwards.

strange that it should give you an error, it works perfect on my comp, I just used my image, flashed it on and done. Maybe you have a strange dvd/cd player, mine is just a nec.

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