Hmmm, do ya think something changed in the last 13 minutes? :D Give Abit a little time for some bios updates and the board will be fine...Quote:
Originally Posted by vowkilmer
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Hmmm, do ya think something changed in the last 13 minutes? :D Give Abit a little time for some bios updates and the board will be fine...Quote:
Originally Posted by vowkilmer
We'll have infos about a second AW9D-Max soon, Turrican is setting his stuff up and should report back in about 20 mins.
LOL Me too, but there is something called: Quality Control. It seems that Abit dont has one...Quote:
Originally Posted by Heidfirst
Ok guys, Turrican has his setup running. He has a proper 8 pin 12V connector on his board that works fine with his Enermax Galaxy 1000W PSU. Pics here.
And some 3DMark06 run of mine:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9...rk06ka3.th.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
Tweak it a bit more ... 10k is sooooo near :D
It's just penismarks but, :rolleyes: , why not ;)
So does he have the 1:1 issue that you did? What's his FSB?
We're waiting for results :)Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
if you make enough of anything you will always get something slipping through, it's the nature of the beast.Quote:
Originally Posted by ^don.k's^
Of course if you want to pay 2x as much for increased inspection ...
Update from Turrican:
- 1:1 runs fine for him (using Corsair sticks)
- Just tested FSB 400 1:1 for a quick 3DMark run, worked fine with MCH 1,6V
- Again, his connector is correct
So, he pretty much has none of the problems I faced. Guess we'll see more results tomorrow :)
Original Post :
Quote:
Originally Posted by TurricanM3
Translated :
* 350MHz works with 1:1 divider
* 400MHz needs +0.1V on MCH, divider work here too (3DMark06 stable)
* He's positively surprised, the Board doesn't power off when resetting like his P5W
* That's it for Today
EDIT - damn, too slow :(
Yay, another 975 board worth getting!
Sicness got a dud ;)
Thanks for the reminder :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanborn
how bout some screenshots?? ..
That's what I want to hear. No more worries about the board killing my other hardwares due to constant power downs. My harddrives and waterpumps will live a little longer. Looks like its OCZ ram compatibility issue SO FAR. Nothing confirmed yet. Lets see what other users say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarchy
Hey Sicness thanks for all your info today!!! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
Sorry you got a bad board.
I got the last one from excaliberPC so I should hve my board up and running sometime next week.
You're most welcome! Good luck with yours :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy
I'm considering ordering a new one and sending my dud back. I could easily live without the 1:1 divider for now, but this EPS connector thing really freaks me out.
Considering 1:1 266 FSB is suppose to be a standard, you would be entitled to a r.m.a. I would suggest you visit a loca retail store and purchase some additional ram in order to rule out ram incompatabilty before requesting r.m.a. If you are unable to use the ram with the board you could simply return the ram for a refund. If it works then you would have proven incompatabilty.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
The RAM works fine with any other divider, just not 1:1. There's no local retailer within a ~30KM radius :(Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
Sicness sorry to hear about the possible bad board. :(
I still have every intention on grabbing this board once it becomes available again.
Is there any other reason why you wouldnt recommend this board, since you are one of the
first to get your hands on it and all. ;)
Sicness,
Does this board have cold boot like the P5W (power down the hardwares completely when exit the Bios or reboot with high FSB, >390fsb? This is very important to me, pls confirm. Thank you!!!!
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299... dream on.. sorry ZZF and sorry abit this mobo doesnt even come close warranting the 299 price tag not even remotely close.
are you guess getting a new revision NB ? or is it the same as all the others. just curious if a new 975 came out along with the new C2 965
Sorry wanna ask again, for users of this board, or potential users, will you bother to replace the thermal pads with some good thermal paste? :D
Sicness, what Cpu and ram does your friend that hit 400fsb have? It's worth knowing just so we can see if there are any further issues with other equipment...
regards
raja
I'm currently seaching options for better cooling without going water. The 1.85v mch on my P5W DH is not doing me alot of good because of cooling. I think someone noted that Asus said it was not recommended to use that much voltage without improved cooling to the northbridge. I can't imagine how the abit board can handle the 2.0v available with just passive cooling. When I find something suitable for both the AW9D-Max & P5W DH I'll let you know. My concern right now though is bit-techs statement:Quote:
Originally Posted by TWY
Now the board is reaching retail channels and available to end-users, but no bios update as of yet. This is a bit disappointing considering Abit was already aware of issues and decided to release the board anyway without a bios update to correct some of the problems. Hope mine isn't too problematic.:rolleyes:Quote:
We were told by Abit that there are some kinks in the BIOS that makes the board a little fussy at times when overclocking. We are hoping that these are fixed before the board reaches retail, because 450-460MHz+ FSB on an unmodded 975X motherboard is pretty impressive
Why :)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
My cpu is orthos stable 3.6ghz 9X400 1:1 with 1.4750vcore set in bios. Now that I can lower the multiplier with the ASUS P5W DH I should be able to do 8 X 450 for the same 3.6ghz orthos stable, but I'm not. The pc freezes & when I touch the heatsink over the north bridge its very hot. Eva got his board stable above 450 FSB after changing the thermal paste and such. I figure if I remove it, I may as well replace it with something better. None of this is necessary I'm sure, if you just want 400FSB or so. But I wan't every bit of FSB I can get, therefore better cooling is necessary. Thats why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tacops
I see.. Currently I'm still trying not to add any fans to the motherboard cooling system. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
Hmmm, think you didn't reply to my qn on whether will you change thermal paste on the motherboard sinks first? Or you'll be just plonking some extra cooling fans on? :D
Like I said if I remove the heat pipe system, I'm gonna replace it rather than just reseat with AS5. I have Zalman V900's on my video cards so adding something like swiftechs mcx 159-cu shouldn't be any louder.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWY
Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
RAM is Corsair 2GB 6400C4 (DDR2-800 4-4-4-12)
Enermax Galaxy 1000W PSU
More results should come in later today ...
vowkilmer: Since I seem to have a dud and Turrican has a proper AW9D-Max that let's him connect his EPS 8pin and run 1:1, I'd recommend the AW9D-Max right away. I'll get a new one myself.
what CPU does he have to hit 400fsb, is it 2mb cache or 4mb?
He said that he had 3,6GHz when using 400MHz FSB, so it must be a 9x multi ... prolly a 6600 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Mine is not hitting a high FSB 370+ , no problem running 1:1
Tony is correct, we need 1333 strap in bios. They can be pushed a little but no where near enough.
We also need upward multi's on the X6800
You don't hit 370? Welcome to the dud club. I just ordered a new AW9D-Max and will return this april fools board with it's funny connector next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
There is no upward multi here or?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heidfirst
Man, a board which costs near 300 bucks, SHOULDNT have that fail. I havent seen yet that problem EVER, have you ?
BTW, Good to see 400 1:1 @1,6vmch from other users, not really impressive if you ask me... I still want +470 from this board, until that, its useless ( a board with 2v option from stock should do that at least )
That was a quick test he did after return from work at 11PM. I hope I'll get a board with a proper connector tomorrow, there should be other user's results soon too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ^don.k's^
Good luck with the new board, thats pretty strange that the 8-pin was wrong.
.....well.....after some mods I can boot up to 413MHz fsb and 1:1 CPU:Ram.....It accualy did well with the Micron Fatbodies chips with VERY tight timmings as well......No?.....:)
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/C...13.734_png.png
3D benchable at the SAME timings @ 410MHz....:)
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Hipro5 already modded his board - lol :D
412MHz 3-2-2-1 is a very nice score! :slobber:
...412.8MHz = 413MHz.....don't steal me 1MHz......:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Vassili
Great job mate :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
What did you mod ? VMCH ??? I hope Vfsb or something else, not vmch... Please tell us a bit more on that ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
BTW man, that time sucks, i got near the same time with 370 4-3-2-1 and emule, msn, everything running... Its the mobo that performs badly or what ? Ok, maybe interleaving... my fault. Id like to see time comparison between AW9 and P5W tho.
VMCH, VFSB and some capacitors for the time been....:)Quote:
Originally Posted by ^don.k's^
how much vmch & vfsb did you need for 413MHz fsb/1:1.....:)Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
Accualy with 1.91VMCH and 1.6Vfsb....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynasty
1.91VMCH into bios is not as it seems....;)
Oh, so, max in bios, how much it is for real ? 1,91v for 413 1:1... :nono: Any P5W with 1,9 can do over 440 1:1 if im not wrong.... Well, keep praying for newer and better results like we were hoping...
440MHz at Cas 3-2-2-1 with tight timmings?......WHICH ram can do that?........:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by ^don.k's^
I'm talking about Ram "playable" fsb here ......NOT max fsb in case you didn't noticed.....;) :)
Yep, definitly sick memory speed.
After some rest I will test the new bios, its been a long day.
HIPro,Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
I'm guessing you have installed the maximiser? I am using it on the dfi 975XG, I've gained about 10fsb, before I had to run at 375, now I can bench at 387 and 24?7 at 385. I recon I can get more out of it too..
regards
Raja
I'm ALWAYS with the DDR Maximizer Raja.......Thing is that if you get used to it, there's NO turning back......It's like a drug......:D :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
those timings are sick! Cas 3 @ 440 is hard enough, let alone the sub settings...
I'll let you know how I get on...
Regards
Raja
Theres a new bios already?Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Yeah, FUGGER got his hands on a new beta.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
I hope this board can be better with updated bios. Too many 975X boards to try to find a perfect ones:) Wish we can tested all as a reviewer:D ...Instead we have to invest:)
Good luck guys:toast:
No, i wish i had ram capable of that, i were at 4-3-2-1 with 1 gig sticks, the sticks goes up to 467 4-3-2-1. So, you havent maxed out yet that Abit ? What are you waiting for then ? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
Sorry to be a bit off topic, but we need to do a group buy on this board, cause the price is bull:banana::banana::banana::banana:.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDro
QFT
This board definetly wins the worst layout award...
i was hoping these board should not have too much trouble doing 460+
hey Sic sorry to hear about your dud:(
Thanks pal. But I'll get a new board either tomorrow or on monday :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
can't say that I have but afaik these parts come in bulk & are automatically loaded so there isn't much human intervention.Quote:
Originally Posted by ^don.k's^
I've seen a no. of other mobos (& indeed other products) with things on them that you would have thought should never have got out of the factory ...
You just don't get 100% perfect product in the market place with mass production, there will always be a few that don't make the grade.
Hey hipro, i may have missed it, what DDR volts are you at?
Edit - Glad to see you hard at work on this board already, IC7-g in the making.
Guys,
update about my board. After someone on the forums informed abit about my problem, I have been contacted to sort this problem out. I'll get a replacement board next week and they'll pick my board up. They have done pretty much everything to solve my problem as good as possible.
But I need to make clear that service like that is only for special cases like mine, since it's the first and only one worldwide. So please don't ask abit for immediate RMAs if your board dies or any other usual RMA cases occur. I don't mean to sound arrogant or smth, this just has to been stated.
Two huge thumbs up for abit for taking care of me that fast!
Nice to see Abit step up to the plate for you...and might I add, you took this problem gracefully. I know a few poeple who would have gone :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: nuts if that had happened to them LOL
I'm guessing the primary reasons they're going to replace your mobo are the 8pin and 1:1 issues yes? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
It's about the faulty EPS connector.Quote:
Originally Posted by [timko]
Nice to see the manufacture support on XS is like no others on the net.
:toast:
I'm at 2.67Vdimm.....:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
Nice to have the cell phone numbers of the involved Abit staff who assisted Sicness also. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
eek. God hipro...honestly.
As for u sic, real sorry to hear bout the dad, but WOAH right to ur door!? Dang Abit is ahusslin' huh :D Glad to see them back tho, even if thise board doesnt clock too high, it looks like abit is back in the spotlight, cause man, that cooling looks pretty mean. And backlights on the mobo....priceless :D
Nice one for helping out Sicness - Bingo13, you've put a lot of work into this board, especially that new beta for this board...
I think people don't know how much you've been doing behind the scenes with ABit on this board, I do and I think you deserve some credit...
Yeah, abit is putting quite some effort into this. Can't wait to get my hands on the new beta BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by n-sanity
sicness, (I only read till about page4 or page5), sorry to hear you got bad board (wrong 12v connector). Hope you get a replacement and also hope you'll get one with a good BIOS too. I see a potential for this, let's hope Abit can live up to the enthusiasts' expectations.
Thanks. I have another ordered board on it's way (might arrive tomorrow already) and abit's replacement coming up next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by death metal
BTW, more results emerge - ZABEK at hardwareluxx.de is running 430x8 with default 1,7V, still testing.
Edit: Typo.
I think this board has a lot of potential. Let us know how your new boards do sicness!
Let's see if with the new bios this MB unleashes even more power.
Sicness, nice to see that ABIT solved that annoying problem and you are going to get a new MB.
Good luck.
A new beta BIOS has been posted on hardwareluxx.de, it's possible to change multis in BIOS now. See this post.
Although Alex tested it and it works for him ... !Flash on your own risk!
427 x 7 please tell me that isnt all he has gotten ?
so when does the "Max" actually start kicking in ? do you have to like yell at it ? threaten it ?
427 on the 1066 strap is probably quite fast, especially on the 975 chipset. I think ABit need to focus on enabling a 1333fsb strap to get this board hitting 450fsb. I'd like to see how this current bios performs with the 4mb cache cpu's (E6600 upwards). Next week, I'll find out...
regards
Raja
exactl. 1333strap is missing :(
no way to get the ddr2-1000C4 running at specified speeds - 427 C4-3-3-5 is max for 1:1
4:5 RAM maxes out @ ~920 :(
So this mobo is dissapointing too (as for me P5B Dlx)Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Strap 1333 suck because of poor performance
On Bad Axe without mod I did 430 strap 1067 (after mods 470) I thonk I bought another Bad Axe ...
1067MHz strap almost always gives the best performance. This is why people's obsession with FSB is sometimes misplaced. You are sometimes better off running with slightly lower FSB and tighter strap.
Very well said.....;) :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
exactly, recently in the mid market, I've noticed that the less hardcore users of boards get quite good benching scores in 3dmark on the DFI975XG, it has not got great FSB in most cases, but it's a damn fast board.
I dunno what the norm is at the higher straps for other boards, but i get just under 8900mbs ram bandwidth on the 1066 strap at 385fsb 4:5 divider.. For those with X6700's on air it's a great board. Of course for super pi, other things become important...
http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ndwidthvn7.jpg
regards
Raja
Unfortunately, Super-Pi 1M does almost the same with whatever Ram modules you have.....No big deal.....Either you play with 4-4-4-12 or with 3-2-2-1, you'll se no big changings.....Though at 32M you can see it, OR WinRar 3.61 OR Pi-fast......;)Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
thanks for clearing that up HI-Pro..
I have the Abit coming next week for review, let me know how to attach the Maximiser to it if you can (Mods?)....
Also Asus P5WDG2 Pro when you can....
regards
Raja
ExactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
My Friend did compare on P5B Dlx
8x450 ram 1:1 4-4-4 vs 9x400 ram 1:1 4-4-4 and ... in all benchmarka 9x400 was better :D
yes 1066 vs 1333, even 50fsb can't make up the differance....
Would like to see some benchies of some 1333 strapped asus board with like 450 vs. AW9D-Max with PSB 1066 and maybe 420 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
I will run the Asus board tonight with the new 1404 bios. In the meantime here is the E6300 on the Abit board with the new beta bios. The Sandra 2007 scores are UnBuffered. The board will boot at 7x475, can only run benchmarks starting around 7x465 and it appears 7x460 might be stable (for some benchmarking runs, not 24/7) at this time although I have several benchmarks left to run. I am still having the same issues as before with PC-8500 and above modules from OCZ/GSkill/Geil in trying to run at 1:1 ratios, they run fine at 4:5, some at least boot now and others might do 1:1 but are not stable. I had to use the Corsair 6400C3 modules for 1:1 capability. Also, PCI-E issues with the SATA ports are gone now, well the option to change PCI-E speeds has been removed from the bios. Although you can change them with uGuru in Windows but it depends on your drive if it works or not. X6800 is still locked at 11x maximum and so far all of my retail chips have worked properly with the downward multiplier.
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/748...x7combouc4.png
Great, thanks mate :toast:
How much volts on the MCH?
Wish I could push my board further ... that 1:1 issue is really annoying. You don't happen to have some Elpida chipped RAM sticks you could throw in for a quick 1:1 test?
1.90 MCH, going higher did not help, extending memory timings did not help, just at the limit of our board.... I have a set of Elpida I will try. The Micron D9 has been my focus this afternoon. ;) I will try the E6600 here shortly. I just dropped down to 7x455, failed a three loop run of 3D06 just a minute ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
Looking forward to see the results.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
You got PM ;)
7 x 455, 95% stable, still failed a couple of benchmarks with the 7950GX2 overclocked. Memory timings are improved but I still could not match previous results with the Corsair 6400C3 at this speed.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4...x7comboxx9.png
7 x 450, memory was perfect at 3-4-3-10, passed all benchmarks so far and dual Prime95 stable for the past couple of hours. Looks like we have a winner at this setting on our board (which is not the best sample around). ;) I am moving to the E6600 now and will have updated Asus results later.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8...x7combosz0.png
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/564...7ap32mdfu0.png
pretty good times in SPI as well :toast: