DFI at $180 and making good clocks, ASUS at $270 making good clocks....oh the choices...
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DFI at $180 and making good clocks, ASUS at $270 making good clocks....oh the choices...
Hmmmm ... I know the new bios might not be ready for while, but I've seen enough to convince me that I can deal with a $180 DFI mobo being a place holder (I would have choked on the Asus) for a better mobo that will hopefully appear sometime in the not too distant future. I pulled the trigger on the board ... and a CPU, memory and another PSU. :D If it all ends in tears I'll blame you Kunaak. :slap: Seriously though - thanks for helping me decide. It should be fun. :toast:
Dumo has put alot of time in this board, I would ask him to make a thread that has alll the FAQ for this board, he was hitting 450 fsb on the old bios...Quote:
Originally Posted by SKiLL3D
Thought of it too, but thats not something a would request cause i know its quite an effort to make a FAQthread and keep it clean of spam/fanboys and up-to-date for quite some time.Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
I just hope DFi won't let us wait too long for that new BIOS. I'd like to order the Board, but not before i can be assured that the new BIOS will perform at the same level as the BetaBIOS.
I know that 975Boards usually don't have Problems running 7900GX2/7950GX2 GFX's, but i'll still ask:
any1 got Problems on DFI Infinity running a 7900GX2 or 7950GX2?
iLL
ps: ...more Input!
Quote:
Originally Posted by SKiLL3D
there is a guy over at DFI street that has a 7950 gx2 running with this board going by his profile ... may wanna head over there & send him a PM http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/member.php?u=23543
THX *crossing-the-street*Quote:
Originally Posted by scooby609
iLL
any new news on the upcoming bios ? ver 821-824 I'm guessing now eh ? heh
Ordered the Infinity earlier today, the board at $180 was too good to pass up.Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
Is it worth paying $30-$40 extra to wait to see how the latest BIOS works when it's released, or should I just get the board now, while it's on sale? (you just KNOW Newegg will raise prices...)
(I really do NOT want to buy a bad board. The foxconn (which I almost got) turned out to be a nightmare, and I'm also disabled, so.....)
Question to whoever tested this new BIOS > this new max FSB is it on strap 1066 or 1333?
well, i just ordered this board with the 2GB Gskill 4-4-4-12 and an E6600. Hopefully this new bios will show itself in stable form soon.
I never did understand the whole "FSB Strap" thing.
yep, 08/16 bios is not bad :)
can do 425-435 with 1.35-Vfsb b4 needing more voltage bump.
Vmch was @ 1.7/2.6 vdimm
Asus P5WDH I would use 1.4 Vfsb to get over 410 so overall im
impressed with latest bios.
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...-dfi975x-g.gif
First post @@ Come on DFI GIve me new bios my 6700 seems so sad @ 3.7 gig :(
dynasty are you doing that via the bios or setfsb in windows ?
also can you power down and power back on and it boots fine everytime at that FSB.
1.7v for mch wow thats pretty heavy...... way to high for only 425 FSB wouldnt you say ?
2.6vdimm ? you got some fatties in there do ya ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
1.7isn't that high is it? what is default again?
vmch default - 1.6 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
Quote:
dynasty are you doing that via the bios or setfsb in windows ?
I am booting into windows @ 375 fsb and using cg ICS 9PLRS509
to increase fsb after that..im working vmods to this board tonight looking
for past 450 Fsb..:D
Dynasty:
With that beta bios you have, what happens if you try to boot windows at, let's say, 400 FSB or more?
Do you have problems with having to hold down the power button, or where the board will not reboot when you shut down ?
I think this is what the other poster was concerned about.
I'm having strange experience with my DFi Infinity 975X.
I put 410fsb on bios and the cpu boots to windows @ default (9x266 seen on cpu-z). I go back to bios and there is 410fsb set. why it dont OC?
I've flashed 814 bios and mobo dont boot anymore.
Tryed Insert button trick but no luck.
I'm now at my precious DS3. It rocks solid but i like to see dfi working cause saturday i'll bench 3D01, 3D03, 3D05, 3D06 with SLI of 7950gx2 (quad sli).
Wanna break some records guys.
There's anything I can do?
Thanks in advance.
...still waiting for the final Release of the new BIOS >:-<
keep waiting...Quote:
Originally Posted by SKiLL3D
cause your not gonna find this to be a official bios.
its a modded bios, so very unlikely to ever be a official bios.
where your most likely gonna find this bios, is at DFI-Street.
sir kunaak when the modded bios is finish please put a link here.. :) still waiting for the new bios.. sir Oskar Wu where patiently waiting.. :)
So there will be no new official BIOS with the Options/Performance of the modded BIOS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
From the TopicTitle i guessed that there would be a Release these days...
iLL
noooooo....Quote:
Originally Posted by SKiLL3D
dont go by what I say.
all I am doiing is giving my speculation on the matter.
Oskar Modded pretty much every Bios I ever used for A64 DFI boards, and not a single one came from DFI's website.
all came from DFI street, or a site rehosting the bioses.
I simply mean, I have never seen a modded bios, become an official bios... even though Oskar was the one to do it.
i reffered to the first Post...Quote:
Originally Posted by coolaler
then i got 3 last Questions:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
1. Can u send me a Link to the modded BIOS? I made a quicksearch@dFi-street but didnt find it.
2. Where u able to get past to FSB380-400 with 1:1 ramRatio? I saw the screenie but i cant figure it out right...
3. Would you prefer the Infinity instead of a P5WDH or P5B? Would u prefer ANY other Board than the Infinity?
iLL
then i got 3 last Questions:
1. Can u send me a Link to the modded BIOS? I made a quicksearch@dFi-street but didnt find it.
Nope. It's not Mine to Give Out.
When Oskars ready to make the bios ready to give out publicly, he will.
I said this in my first post in this topic.
2. Where u able to get past to FSB380-400 with 1:1 ramRatio? I saw the screenie but i cant figure it out right...
yes, easily. can get up to 460+ , However, I haven't seen many people get above 400... I dont know why I am able to get alot more from this board then most people so far...
my speeds are boot up speeds, not clockgen.
3. Would you prefer the Infinity instead of a P5WDH or P5B? Would u prefer ANY other Board than the Infinity?
at the moment I am extremely happy with the Infinity, I am only vaguely curious about the P5WDH at the moment, since I really havent seen anything from that board that tells me its better then this one.
I like the 965 chipset, but the 965 chipset, is definatly slower then the 975 chipset, and being able to hit 500+ on the 965 chipset, doesn't really translate to better OC's, unless you have low multipliers.
for instance, I just saw a guy doing 550 FSB on a P5B Deluxe... and only getting 8,000 for bandwidth.
I am getting 7700 for bandwidth, and I am only running 400 FSB at the moment, and by the time I run 450 at 1:1 I am well above 8300 for bandwidth.... which is still far lower then the 965 chipsets do on the FSB.
but, a (possible) 550 FSB is about the only way to push a low multiplier CPU, if you want crazy OC's (like I do:D ) and since I use a E6400, the P5B Deluxe, is a chipset I am interested in... but I know, its a trade off, slower Super Pi scores, slightly lower frame rates, and lower bandwidth, in trade for higher FSB's...
I am extremely happy with the Infinity at the moment, with being able to hit 400+ on the FSB now, without having to use only the 4;3 ratio.
it would be nicer if 500+ was a option, but I dont think it is... not even with this bios.
but then again, very few 975 boards are able to hit that kinda FSB.
knowing Oskars giving this board a look at, and seeing what he can do for it, gives me alot more confidence in this boards future.
after experiencing his work on the DFI NF4's, and the kinda luck I had there, I really like knowing he's giving some time to this board too.
thx for the answers, but i still got problems on the Board. How could i contact OskarWu - any Homepage? How did u get the BIOS?
Its kinda cruel posting such good results and not sharing the BIOS i think:D
1 more BIOSTester cant be that bad;)
I'll to figure out a Way to get the BIOS myself. Thx again
iLL
Quote:
Originally Posted by SKiLL3D
O, RLY ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
Kunaak with 2 gig, going over 400fsb seems hard with the old bios.
Can you tell us your settings with 2 gig on the old bios that allowed you to hit over 400fsb?
I've tried so many things like vmods etc, but 380 is the wall on my board. Ram is Team Group 667 2 gig kit. I'm running raid 0 on 2 wd 2500ks and Crossfire 1900's.
using E6600 stepping 5 ES, should be capable of a little more.
regards
Raja
Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
sounds like on the old bios 4:3 is the only way to make it over 400mhz.
I can't go over 380 even with 400mhz speed.
Yeah 380 is the ragged edge for mine on the 4:3 divider, I've run the memory up to 900 no problems on the 2:3 divider so it seems the memory controller can push 450+ no problems.
Keeping my fingers crossed for the new bios!
I can't either even with the new bios :(Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
I just pulled the trigger on this board (got tired of waiting for Biostar to get their frigging act together), partly because of Kunaak's post above, since this computer is going to be crunching some serious FT's for work.
I have read every single thing I can on this board (here and DFI-street), is there anything I might run into a problem with with the equipment in my sig? (namely memory) I don't think I'll ever try to go over 400 Mhz FSB unless it is easy, this thing has to be more than dual prime stable to handle what I'll be throwing at it.
Anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasac
The infinity 814beta bios can be downloaded from dfi:
-Link Removed: This Bios 814 is Known to Kill Boards-
Be carefull. I've flashed this bios and my board just dead. Dont boot anymore! :slapass:
anyone else try this bios file?
that bios has been pulled, if you go to the bios site directly you'll find it's not posted anymore. You should not be posting a direct link to it, as your board will stop working if that bios is used.
DO NOT USE 814 BIOS
sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
first, if you look at Dumos OC post about this board, you will see my 480 shot was done with 1 gig of corsair 5400 UL, not 2 gigs.
I put 2 gigs of mushkin PC8000 in there, and no matter what, the board was not able to post anywhere past 400 with 2 gigs of ram.
I think I know why too.
bandwidth is drastically higher when you have 2 gigs of ram, then 1 gig of ram, atleast, according to the only thing that would still boot with 2 gigs of ram in it... Memtest 86.
I suspect that the bank interleaving for the stock DFI bioses, just makes the chipset too stressed out, which is why it barely OC's when you use 2 gigs of ram in it.
put 1 gig of ram in the board, and use the 400 mhz setting.
my other settings that I dont know if they help others, but I use.
1.35 VFSB.
1.75 VMCH.
101 mhz PCI E.
PPM Off.
Manually set the cas, ras to cas, TRP and Tras.
for the maximum OC possible on this board, theres a really solid method that works for me, when trying to boot at over 400+ on the FSB.
this takes multiple boots, and has to be done the same way everytime for this to work.
1. after a cleared CMOS. in bios, disable C1E, Execute disable bit, and Virtualization (nothing uses it anyways yet)
in your integrated peripherials, disable anything you dont use, and enable the raid if you use it.
set your CPU speed to manaul, but dont change anything yet.
reboot.
2. change your cas, your Ram divider, set your PCIE to 101, set your voltages, and set the hard drive you need to boot from.
Enable the "recover from failed OC" option and set it to 15 mhz.
the board has one of the best features I have ever seen on a Intel Based Chipset... the recover from failed OC option can save you alot of time, if you use it right.
say you know the board will boot just fine at 350 FSB... well do it.
get back into bios, and then OC by 15 mhz on the FSB. try that. if it boots cool, if it doesn't, the board will lower the FSB back down by 15 mhz, and load the last workable boot.
OC by 15 mhz intervals and you can save yourself alot of headaches having to clear the CMOS, cause this board, like all intel boards seems to have the same annoying thing if you OC too far... it won't ever recover from a failed OC, and needs a complete clearing of the CMOS and starting all over again, if you get too aggressive.
thats why overclocking in 15 mhz intervals can really save you some time on this board...
or if for some reason you set the recover from failed OC option to say 5 mhz, then OC only in 5 mhz intervals... that way, the board has a drastically higher chance at recovering from a failed OC, then if you dont use this option.
reboot.
3. if you have everything set, your ram speed, divider, cas, your boot drive, your voltages and everything you dont use disabled, then by now, theres only 1 thing left to do... adjust the FSB.
this is key here, save the FSB for the last thing you change, and your luck with this board should be alot higher.
and absolutly never, change your FSB and your boot drive at the same time.
I have no idea why, but thats the quickest way to garauntee you will need to clear the CMOS to get the board to boot again...
so thats the one thing you got to always remember to do.
also, from my experience, this board doesn't like having the FSB and voltages changed at the same time... and will most likely again result in a failed boot, and needing to clear the CMOS.
I have spent hours and hours going over and over this board and it's various bioses and figuring out what makes the board work the best, and this is what I do everytime.
if your not gonna take my advice atleast take these two things into consideration.
dont adjust your FSB, and set your boot drive at the same time...
and...
use the "recover from failed OC" option, and adjust your FSB in the same intervals you set the "recover from" option at.
atleast these two things should help most of you.
this is my method, it works for me.
I wont claim this to work for any other board, but I know this method works for me, cause I've done this exact method about 1000 times so far, haha...
Guys,
I have asked those 2 questions in my own thread but nody replied. So I might as well try here.
1. Anyone running this motherboard with 4GB of ram? Anybody knows if this mobo has issues with 4gb of ram or particular brands of ram?
2. Also can I plug in a 4pin plug into the 8pin connector? My power supply only has 4pin plug.
Thanks
very informative post Kunaak, ill have to write those down when my board arrives on thursday.
Someone knows when the new bios will be available to all ?
according to my understanding the bios is now in alpha ver
someone knows when the beta and the officiall versions will arrive ?
I tried ti figure that out, but no results.Quote:
Originally Posted by giloman
Very Good Post - the Best in this thread so far! Thx for sharing your Experience, even if i won't ever go FSB400+.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
I just hope i get my 6600 to work 1:1@FSB366@core1.4V with the specified RAMtimings(Gskill6400HZ) cooled with a Scythe Infinity.
Is this Aim reachable with the official BIOS?
I think Vmch 1,6V should be enough for that slight OC, would any1 agree?
iLL
Guys, give this a try: http://www.ocer.net/article/a_download.php?fid=39552
Please provide feedback. I don't have DFI to test it.
Dunno, can be a great fake. Maybe someone volunteers :(
First I would do a file compare with 0814 in order not to have a dead mobo...
I flashed it and my board is still working so :)Quote:
Originally Posted by caligula
RebelsHaven: it would be really nice of you to put a link to your version of 0816, too.
If it's how you say, then what makes you think you have the original one ?:)Quote:
Originally Posted by RebelsHaven
LOL because he does. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by caligula
You've got PM.
Jay: 10x man. Yet still, let's see how the second one performs :)
I agree I'd like to know what was changed and why. It very well could have been someone taking things into there own hands and making fixes OR it could be hazardous. Not sure but interested none the less. Maybe I'll take a look at both side by side when I get home late tonight. Perhaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by caligula
makes no difference to me, getting it to post out of bios without any adjustments does not work for either version on my board.
I just flashed the latest beta bios 816, it almost killed my board! :slapass: very unstable, it went boot lock error, good thing i was able to fix the problem.
i can send the 816 bios if you want it, but flash at your own risk! :D
and be sure your up for the long RMA process haha
816 = Yikes @@ Helped my fsb upto 370 then crashed and now stuck at lol 300 HAHAHAH :) 731 is the best i know of
Didn't anyone bother to listen to anything I said?
This bios is not ready to be released publically, cause it has about as many problems as it fixs.
the main 1. it doesn't boot, if you go into bios, and dont OC, cause the board will default to 8 x 100 mhz, for 800 mhz total, which is far lower then DDR2 was ever meant for, so it will not boot...
took me 2 hours to find out why my board would never boot, if I exited bios...
and I posted this here.
now, just like clock work, the bios is out, people leaked it... and sure enough... people are complaining about the exact things I said a few days ago....
guys... wait for Oskar.
No ones holding anything from you... theres no conspiracy to keep you guys out of the Loop... the plain fact is...
This BIOS is Not Ready For Release..... the last dozen posts only show that even more clearly...
lol come on we gota give it a try i did wonder why it didnt work haha after exiting bios i dont think it was o/c i just uped my vcore and it worked fine ... fun lil buggy bios
Yeah and I got flamed for telling someone to stop begging for the bios...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
And when their board dies, they WISH they had listened to me.....god, you can't please ANYONE these days....
Fine, go ahead, flash your freaking boards and kill them and whine some more because you guys couldn't wait...I know you paid money for your board but Kunaak is a mod and very respected around here-do you think he would LIE about this? Wait for DFI to release a working BIOS.
This reminds me of that one guy who flashed 814 and had a 100% dead board, then someone else reads the post, decides he will flash it anyway, and his board dies too. THINK, PEOPLE !
Who is whining??? Sounds like you are really.
The BIOS is hosted by someone in this very forum who is well known. If there really is a problem with the BIOS being out to the public then whoever feels responsible enough can tell them to take it down.
I for one will not tell anyone what they can and can not do with there own property. To think that some people should be able to test a Bios, regardless of bugs or not, and others shouldn't be allowed to test it is stupid.
All I see here are people looking for the BIOS and people telling ther experience with it so far. I personally don't see anything wrong with that. Everyone knows the risk of the Bios and some wish to still try it out. Thats there call and not anyone elses.
Again I see no one whining about there board blowing up. If it blows up then they have no one to blame but themselves for taking the risk. They are allowed to take that risk just like people who jump out of planes, drive race cars, climb mountains, etc. Just face the fact that some people like to live a little differently then your conservative living style.
ya I understand & agree ....Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
all I ask of ya guys is if ya could keep us updated on how things are working out with this upcoming bios .. what works , what doesnt , if ya gotten a new vers of it , guess on when ya think it might be ready for public, etc
thanks again for all your help & hard work :clap:
That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but if some people know the programmers who make the BIOS and they are allowed to test it, other people who have NO involvement at ALL are also supposed to test it, too?Quote:
Originally Posted by JayG30
I guess that means that companies should start leaking their betas out to the general public, then !
Everyone leaks stuff. Does that make it right? NO.
Write a piece of code someday and have someone else give it out without your permission then see how you feel...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
LOL you just told me to write a piece of code someday...thats rich. :p:
For your information I have my degree in computer engineering and a minor in computer sience. I write code all day for one of the biggest government defense contractors in the world. You know those people that make sure when someone shoots a missle at us our ballistic missile defense systems go off without a hitch....that sort of thing. Don't try to lecture me on writing code and having others give it out please because it happens to me on a regular basis.
And FYI major companies do leak out stuff like beta's to the general public all the time. It's one of the industries worst keep secrets. The best way to see how the product will preform ahead of time is by leaking it and pretending like you didn't. Happens almost 90% of the time. For instance, a most recent incident, why do you think Vista got out ot the public (or those smart enough to know how to find it, i.e not your average PC user).
Also I believe the person who posted the BIOS around other places IS actually a tester and not just some guy. If it was suppose to be a closed test then they would/should have done a better job or made that more clear to those who recieved it. If they cared about it still now they would get it removed. I don't see that happening so for now it's a free for all for anyone who feels like taking a chance.
Ah...condescending sage. Vista betas are available to many beta testers, those are impossible to stop from leaking. And even then, MSFT actually released a beta officially on their main website. If people want to try these beta/alpha/omega/whatever releases then I say go right on; just be prepared to face the consequences of your actions.Quote:
Originally Posted by JayG30
True but the vista beta is still tested to be so reliable that it doesn´t totally screw up your computer.
QFT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sume4
Some things just weren't made to be leaked. Period.
ah.. hope the new bios will be release soon.. ^_^ sir Oskar Wu we will be waiting.. :)
can u write some of that code here plzQuote:
Originally Posted by JayG30
^That is why you don't get specific about what you do for a living on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by illidan
Why are you guys arguing about this again?
Someone fry's thier mobo big deal, the rest of you can wait.
Now shut-up and stop crapping on this otherwise informative thread.
For now Beta bios 816 isn't worth your time and headache:)
Just wait for official bios release.
Yea I can just give out code that has to go with national security. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by illidan
I wonder how fast I would loss my job? :p:
Well since it will take 10-15days for me to get my board... I hope a more improved and stable bios is out by then. To the guyz who already have it n did some numbers "Thank You" and keep it coming.
I have found that the 533 memory setting also works well with higher FSB. I am at 355X9 for now with 1.43v running Orthos.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
You should be able to get up to about 375 FSB on BIOS 7/31. You will need to continue to use the 4:3, but set your memory to whatever setting you have closest to 562.5 or greater (not less).
the failed overclock feature sure is VERY nice though. Resetting the CMOS over and over sure does slow down the pace.
Losing your job would be least of your worries, reminds me of an old 80's movie I remember.. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by JayG30
Can anyone tell which other cheaper boards have these ratios, is it 975 boards only?Quote:
Originally Posted by Btrice
Yeah I am looking forward to using that as I plan to put everything right in the case and run it for a little while stock before overclocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budwise
775, I have no idea about any other boards. Only reason I know so much about this one is all the time I have spent reading up on it compared to my other choices.
Any news on the official bios?
Here is my out-of-the-box results. On Bios 0621, tho
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=88720
I'm wondering if we are thinking of the same movie. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 775911
Tried the BIOS last night, didn't kill my board. However, everytime I changed something in the BIOS (even disabling floppy drive) the board would not POST after being restarted. Went back to 731. The memory options in 816 looked like fun though...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freez
yeah he was saying you have to manually set the FSB, could be something else too though.
manual fsb and manual Vcore nbvore :) Cept for that wow memory options out the ass
i think its best if we just sit tight and be patient. The new bios will be out soon im sure.
I think DFI (and Oskar's) efforts are right now in releasing a Lan Party mobo for C2D. Way to go. guys, big clocks come with big bucks :(
I would be very glad to be proven wrong.
*watches thread for bios update*
if this board gets one before mine im switching, For $188 this board is much better then my ab9 pro....:(
Cmon oskar.
What would DFI do without you.
Just bought my board hopefully the new bios is available in time for when it arrives
I)ickie
here's a guide for using 816 bios
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=113497
SO nobody is runnig this with 4GB of ram?
2 gig is hard enough for overclocking, 4 gig would be too much as yet IMO.
Definatley stick with 0731 bios if you're gonna try that out.
please please.. let there be a new bios.. ^_^
I don't think we'll be getting the 1333 fsb strap..
Toooold ya ! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by caligula
Keep waiting, guys, there's still time to pass until your o/c bios shows up.
waaaa.. please please don't forget DFI 975x Infinity owners.. hope the bios will arrive soon.. ^_^
with the 731 bios is this board able to do 400fsb 1:1 or does a higher ram speed need to be used?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsizer
Asa far as i know it wont hit 400 unless you are in 4:3
400 Fsb / 1:1 can be done with the 08/16 bios with right settingsQuote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
& mem. tweaks....:)
yes with the 8/16....
which no one can get.
Too bad a board with such potential is being looked over like this... i dont get it really, as they could be taking sales from asus and gigabyte, esp. when its dfi's only intel board available right now. At a great price point too. Doesnt make sense at all.
New bios on DFI's site, 823.
"Major Reasons of Change:Quote:
Originally Posted by Btrice
1.Optimized OverClock function.
2.Fixed SATA HDD can't hot plug.
3.Remove O.C. fail control.
4.Remove Easy OC function. "
Acting the same as 816 did for me; I change one thing in hte BIOS and it doesn't POST.Quote:
Originally Posted by Btrice
I haven't tried it yet as I was having enough trouble with 731, couldn't get it above 320FSB regardless of what memory divider I tried.
someone try it please... i really want 400fsb with 1:1...any higher would be icing on the cake.