This one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anemone
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...41&modelmenu=1
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This one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anemone
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...41&modelmenu=1
CPU-Z!Quote:
Originally Posted by faith4
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
I want that Mobo drools .... I wish ASUS would give ur more DDR vdm to play with sigh.
Can anyone tell me whether this board has the same strange shutdown behaviour as the P5W-DH? (i.e. when you reset it or make changes in CMOS instead of resetting it cold boots?)
It does appear to have the same behavious, but I am not 100% sure, how can you tell?Quote:
Originally Posted by Durzel
cheers,
AP
When you reset the PC in Windows (Start Menu -> Restart) does it actually power off completely and then come back on a couple of seconds later? Or do the fans etc stay on like a normal reset? The P5W-DH also does this if you make any change in the BIOS and save it.Quote:
Originally Posted by apfubar
Yes it shuts down on restart and bios changes.
Geek
Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
Whenever I leave my computer off for a while and come back and turn it on, the boot fails. (i.e. all I get is a black screen, no source to the monitor) When I turn the computer on and off, I get a slow initialization of the BIOS, and when I try to go into the BIOS it takes a while. It also shows a message that the overclock failed. Once I am in , all I have to do is save and exit (no changes) and reboot. Then enter the BIOS again, change the Boot priority to my RAID (the only option that resets during this ordeal) and I am good to go. Once I do this I can restart all I want, it only makes me do this when it is off for over an hour.
Is this Ram related?
VCore: 1.35v
E6600 FSB: 370
G.Skill DDR2-800 RAM: 925 @ 2.25V
4-4-4-8
I have run Orthos all night long before with no errors, and run a memory tester to 300% without errors.
Give vcore a small bump and see if the problem goes away...
Reason I ask about it being memory, is I got the same issue when ever I tried any settings with the memory at 987 MHz.
Have you tried loosening timings a bit...
Natalia, it may be an idea to come down to the 1:1 memory speed (533). And run at Cas 3-3-3-8 if your ram can handle that latency, the bandwidth will be the same due to the reduced latency.
I have experimented with this on the DFI board, which I have running 370-380 fsb, it has the same issues as yours at over 900 mhz, no loss of perceived performance either, at the lower cas and divider , slightly higher stability too.
regards
Raja
Yeah, why not try running the memory 1:1 which is still below the rated 800mhz the G.skill supports. Just downclock it and don't even bother about the timings yet. See what happens!Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Also, make sure that the battery is all the way IN!
I think raju is right, I have the same memory, and this board does not like doing anything other than 1:1 on the memory we have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
If your cooling is OK, try 1.45 vCore in Bios, FSB @ 400, memory at 4-4-4-12-4 delay of 7, memory strap of 1:1 i.e. ddr2 800, vdimm 2.2, mch @1.6-1.7, and try your rig, and see if that works better.
Thank you :) Yep!Quote:
The easiset way to tell is give it a little more vcore. I find this more than anything else will get you more stability and a little higher o/c. If that doesn't work, then look elsewhere. The conore is very sensitive to needing just a bit more voltage albeit at the cost of more heat.
I'm still getting used to that :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by fishingeek
For me a slow boot up usually occurs with not enough vCore.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
I'd love some more vCore too :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vengure
There's an offer going on at Ocxtreme forums, (you need to be a member to see)
http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=2511
he offers vmods too, at a very good price for members (cost only no labour charge). I've ordered mine, just waiting patiently now...
regards
Raja
Anyone noticed that this board has the same USB header as the P5W-DH for the wireless module? You could add wireless quite easily to this board :)
:rolleyes: So again back to the BIOS - is there a benefit changing to the 0004 or should I stay with the 07/20/2006 ??? :confused:
And how does it work to save the current BIOS with the ASUS UPDATE program?
Each time I try it gives me no BIOS file to save...... :stick:
This is what I got so far - seems that this board doesn't like high FSB async... :
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7475/sp1m3208vi2.jpg
The chip ran 3.6 with 1.49 Vcore on air at the guy I bought it from but I think I have to do some testing sync for higher speed.
But the most fvcked up thing is the cold boot bug in BIOS after leaving it - never had a board acting like this ?!?!?!
470ish FSB attainable with this board...
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/4...shot007uj2.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9...shot009iy8.jpg
I have exactly same setup as you, and my memory is sitting at 667 strap, with 370 fsb, so mem running around 925mHz, only diff is my timings, which I have 5-5-5-16 for stability, and 24/7 operations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
Vmem at only 2.10volts, and vcore 1.40 (measured at chokes)
You can try and up vmem to around 2.35, which should give you more/better stability, but probably a better (for your hardware) longterm solution would be to cut down on latencies a little, and keep 1:1 ratio.
Conroe loves bandwidth, and most applications will appreciate higher bandwidth over latencies.
You can test yourself with SuperPI, run with 1:1, very tight timings, and then set strap to 667 (20% mem overclock over fsb) and increase latencies to 5-5-5-15 or there abouts, and test again.
At least with my testing I needed somewhat higher overclock on fsb 1:1 to reach same SuperPI results with memory running fsb:ram 4:5
Keep us posted of your results - and if you find a solution to your problem.
Kind regards,
MrBean.
Natalia,Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
I have a P5W-DH and I have this EXACT same issue. It's been driving me nuts, and I have no idea how to go about resolving it. System is prime and orthos stable, and memory runs like a champ, but, if, like you, I leave the machine for awhile, I come back and turn it on it's black on my screen-- sometimes it can take a few reboots.
I am running a modest overclock at:
E6600 @ 3.20ghz
356FSB
Corsair Memory (rated at DDR800 @ 4-4-4-12)
1.475 vCore
2.1 vDimm
I believe I have run it at a 1:1 divider and have the same problem. When I do get it to reboot, it is VERY slow, and it the Intel Raid does not recognize my Raid array (sees it as gibberish). After I go into the Bios and reboot, the Raid is recognized, and it's back to normal.
I also notice this quite a bit when the machine has been allowed to go on Standby. When it comes back, sometimes, it is okay, and sometimes, it freezes with no display (and hard drive lights on).
I have a 7950GX2-- do you have the same adapter, Natalia?
It's very very annoying-- so annoying I was going to ditch my P5W-DH and buy the P5WDG2, but I guess that plan is not going to get me anywhere either!
If you or anyone find a solution, I would LOVE to know what it is.
is there a pcie reset option? Try enabling it..
I don't think Asus Probe turns the computer off, does it? If you're overclocked and the PC just switches off it's because it's overclocked too high/not cooled enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
To my knowledge, I don't know if one exists. I have tried enabling reposting video on s3 wake-up, hoping it would solve my wake-from-suspend issue- but no luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
I did notice that there was a P5B BIOS recently released to resolve conflicts between the P5B and the 7950GX2, but I haven't seen anything like that for the P5W.
In general, I have been pretty unhappy with this motherboard, but everyone is suffering from one problem or another. I may jump to that Abit MAX, or one of the new 590 boards if/when they become available.
Without turning this into a bash asus thread-- this is my third motherboard in a row from Asus that I am having lots of issues with. I may be done with them.
For what it's worth, my board (bios 307) seems to run best at 4/5 divider at 400/500 at 4-4-4-8 at 2.4v vdim, 1.5+ on vcore. 3900 on water, 4400 on phase. chipset at 1.8v.
:confused: Funny - mine does async (no matter what DDR) a poor max. FSB of 356.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
But here is my first 1:1 - and :woot: , it works. FSB 370 so far still with 1.35 Vcore:
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8470/sp1m3333pj6.jpg
:banana: :banana:
Doesn't happen too much for me, maybe 1 in 5 cold turn-ons. Which is like once every three days since I don't do a lot of turning it off for long periods.Quote:
Originally Posted by lkraven
Have you tried a tRD value of 7 from BIOS? If that doesn't work, boot to windows and use memset to change tRFC to a higher value (I use 42) then use Ai Booster to raise the FSB 10Mhz at a time and you should be able to get to at least 400.Quote:
Originally Posted by camouflage
Also, see here.
:clap: This sounds very promising - I tried tRD of 7 in BIOS without success.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLi_dog
But I never changed tRFC, will try it now with the memset thingie. I had the same feeeling that this bug is only caused by BIOS - board is doing FSB 440 sync:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/391/sp1m3960ka5.jpg
So I have to go async for a higher mem frequency at that speed and FSB....:sonic:
Good stuff, I had the same problem myself :). It'd be great to have a BIOS that allowed this RAM timing.Quote:
Originally Posted by camouflage
People have got 470FSB on this board unmodded.
Kingdom for ppl who made 470 on this board...
I hit 445 spi16mb stable. Hitting a wall with a head wont help to get more.
tRD - 7, tRFC - 42, Changed cooling for NB and 1.8Vmch, 1.5 VICH.
Booting at 420 and raising more with clocgen...
Any other ideas ?
It can depend on the CPU. Also, as you increase FSB you need to increase vCore. Try raising your vcore a bit and see how you go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zulusman
This board doesn't have 1.5vICH? If you mean 1.5v FSB Termination voltage you should only set it to 1.4v max. Set vICH to 1.2v.
Try changing all the BIOS settings to what's here. If that doesn't work, you could volt mod it or get someone to volt mod it for you.
Just got this board. I can boot at 470, but only pi bench at 466. Have to run async though. Ripped off that Workstation rubbish on the nb and stuck on a 40mm.
Asus Prob says my power fan is spinning at 65535rpm...:P
:lol:, set it to ignore in BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by wwwww
Are you using a E6300/E6400?
Sli_Dog
I`m notlogged in, so cannot see whas "here"
But working on it...
I`ll mod it if it wont go higher.
Raising Vcore wnt help. 1.35 is enough to 3.6GHz, but it wont go...I was trying even 1.6Vcore...2fsb more -> crash....
Your running FSB:RAM 1:1 right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zulusman
To sum that article up, turn off/disable all the CPU and memory themal throttling, speed stepping and virtualization bios options, set vICH to 1.2v and FSB_Term_volt to 1.4v
I think 445FSB is pretty good, I needed sub-zero cooling to get to 450FSB
See how the above goes.
Sub-zero to CPU or NB ? :)
What CPu you got ? 6400 ?
Can you post youre max oc with memset ? :)
Sub-zero to CPU. See here for more including a Dry Ice run at 4.66Ghz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zulusman
It`s shown max fsb 425...
I need fsb 470-480 or 4:5 multi with fsb 440-450 :)
For one or other i need mod i think.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n13/SLi_dog/3-3.png
I had to set tRD to 7
Boot at around 420FSB
Use memset to change to a higher tRFC (I use 42)
Use ASUS Ai Booster and move in 10MHz steps up to 450FSB
Either way, volt modding will help.
:( No success here. Still have tRD 7 and tried to boot at my max async FSB of 356, set all volts to the default of 400 FSB and changed in WIN tRFC to 42.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLi_dog
System crashed at 365 FSB........... :stick:
Sync I can get 440 FSB, this is max. Is there an advantage to raise the FSB voltage from 1.4 to 1.5 ??? :confused: MCH is already 1.8 and ICH 1.2.
I feel only better BIOS can cure this issue or I have to buy a 64-WS PRO... :slapass:
I only use the 1:1, 4:5 and maybe 2:3 RAM ratios for high FSB clocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by camouflage
I've found that FSB voltage above 1.4v can cause instability.
Also, as you increase FSB you may need to increase vCore. Try raising vcore and see if that helps but as always, watch the core temperatures.
Info from here, try these settings in BIOS:
Disable Max CPUID Value Limit
Disable Execute Disable Function
Disable Enhanced C1 Control
Disable Virtualization Technology
Disable CPU Internal Thermal Control
Disable Intel SpeedStep tech
Disable DRAM Throttling Threshold
I'd suggest the 0004 BIOS but it seems you're already using it. Maybe try the new 0307 BIOS.
E6300Quote:
Originally Posted by SLi_dog
These are my 24/7 speeds:
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/2658/247ch9.jpg
My mem can do those clocks at 3-2-2-4 32M stable but not completely stable.
Thought so, the E6300/E6400s seem to have no trouble booting at high FSB. Nice one BTW :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wwwww
4:3 divider, interesting. Have you tried running 1:1 with looser RAM timings? You should get better performance.
Living in Canberra must help with the ambients :D
Haha, not really, constant 16C in my apartment all year round. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SLi_dog
I can't get above 390MHz with the 1:1 irrespective of timings (my mem does up to 450MHz 4-3-2 on most other boards).
My P5W DH was much better with 5:4 multi. I`ll try it on P5WDG2 also...But it`s much less bw on memmory, even with 3-3-3-8... I`ll give it a try..
So far iam stable at 380fsb at 1:1 but i dont think i can go much more.The board is much more stable than my p5wdh was.I have bios 307 but may have not have the right settings.
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8...titled2ht2.jpg
Dammm, no wonder u`re stucked with 380fsb...
What are you using to cool it ?
Lower the multi and than raise fsb.
Lol, somehow I doubt that's the board limiting you...
On the sub-zero cooling you have you should be able to go MUCH higher with FSB but you will need to lower you're multi and maybe increase your vcore :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lowbid
Read back through this thread for my previous posts for info on how to get a higher FSB.
I maxed out at around 4.48Ghz using a vapochill LS. At this boards maximum stock voltages you might not be able to get a high CPU overclock and a high FSB at the same time.
Strange think. I was using Fc and it didnt give more fsb...
Maybe contact was bad and i didnt have much time for it.
But i found 2 hot spots(chips) to cool witch could bringh me somme fsb.
I`ll give it a CUsink and find out :)
Is there anyway to speed up the whole USB part of the BIOS? Everything seems to start up fast exxcept initiallizing and loading all the USB devices.
Oh, and I suppose the time out on the RAID display could be faster... :p:
The only Time Out option I have seen is IDE Detect Time Out, but I guess that won´t change your RAID time out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
I have only two disks in RAID 0 and it´s a question of 1 second at most for the RAID to display. :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
Is there a boot from USB device function in bios? Disable that if you can, it may be under a different name. Usually the board will scan the usb bus for any devices it can boot from if it's enabled in bios.
In general, if you mostly boot from your hard drives, it's better to disable all other boot devices in bios (just have your hard drives sitting 1st in the boot order and disable the rest of the order and any other flash drive settings), if you want quickler load times into XP.
regards
Raja
This small modification gave me 10fsb free
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/1...4478xa6.th.jpg
I`ll post those hot spots soon, becouse those are hidden.
EDIT:
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7...4482xv3.th.jpg
OMG all those 40mm fans... :eek:
Could you please send me the 0005 BIOS?Quote:
Originally Posted by camouflage
I got it now, Thanks!
JoeBar
Those 40`s are perfectly silent...Compering to my 120Delta.... ;D
My prio is performance, not silence...
That explains it all. U're deaf... :lol:
I remember those days and it's funny. When the day is over, and i'm trying to sleep. Sometimes, the sound of that 80mm Tornado haunts me and I have to towel down from the cold sweat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zulusman
Nope. Not gonna do it anymore. A friend of mine brought his machine over yesterday for an upgrade. It had some loud 80mm fans in it, and when he hit the power switch, for a moment I almost cried. I have 2 computers running in this room the sound of his ONE completly covered them.
I like being able to just turn on my PC, and put on some tunes without having to turn up the volume to STUPID LOUD levels just to hear the music and not my PC.
Yup, not gonna do that loud fan crap anymore.
I wont discus topic of my fans... for me it`s ok, so get off.
New bios: AI has correct temp.
Thanx to multi change i know that i need more vmch or vdimm(both will be ok too). Max fsb @x7 - 445 atm.
the problem with that addition to the board is that you lose one PCIe slot....for me, i had that problem when i installed a thermalright heatpipe chipset cooler...luckily i was able to turn it 180 degrees to allow both PCie slots to be utilized...i had two PCIe cards!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zulusman
it was funny when i pulled the Asus NB heat pipe off, i discovered the heat sink was making perfect contact with the NB...the new NB cooler made only about 5 MHz difference with obvious increase in vcore to make it Orthos passable.
Is the 005 BIOS the latest and greatest for this board at the moment?
With that BIOS, 0005, you can change multiplier from x 6 to x 20.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
And AiBooster also shows the same temp as Intel TAT. With 0307 did AiBooster show about 10° more than Intel TAT.
Some weird behaviour though. With multiplier x 14 CPU-Z shows the Core 2 Duo logo, though I have a Core 2 Extreme.
http://max.ownit.nu/Multi14.PNG
http://max.ownit.nu/TAT35AiB46CPUZ.PNG
winrar 3.61 benchmark and hardware test:
1536 kb/s cpu speed 3.6 ram 44415 7t
1197 kb/s cpu speed 2.66 ram 3438 2t
why no 1t command rate for intel chipset
this board rocks for 24/7 stability, nice....
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4...2511jv9.th.jpg
Nice pictures...Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
I saw you have BIOS 0408.
Do you have a link to download from Asus?
You'll have to hold tight I'm afraid, I'm sure Asus will release it soon...
raju, what are your voltages for that clock, and btw, happy you like the board, nice stable board
been very happy with it myself
Can you at least tell us whats better since 307?Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
asus is acting like they are Prosac or maybe the lack of!..
the changes to bios are usually very minor and for most, it will not affect overall operation of any particular board
I am currently still using the 0004 BIOS with no issues, is there any real reason to go to the 0005 other than unlocking the multiplier???
Anyone else having issues with installing the ASUS update? I cannot get it to install, keeps giving me errors BIOSINFO.DLL??
installed using the intel site chipset drivers for me but I've read post where some had to install the asus chipset drivers to get this program to install
People are asking a few questions so I'll put up this final post.
first of all you need watercooling on the cpu to keep stability. If you can't keep temps under 75 degrees during dual Orthos for 8 hours, stability will be difficult. For Superpi things can be tight as overall stability is not of concern.
Before I start a flame war, everyone has their own opinions of stability, just go with what you like, live and let live..
Ram throttle is off
Vcore 1.53-1.55 (bios)
FSB term no higher than 1.4
MCH 1.8
ICH 1.2
Leave your ram timings on spd if you can, they may run looser than spec, but that does not matter. When you have experimented with spd and studying memset you go and adjust things on manual to get further/tighter if you can
You have to think outside of the box with this new platform, things are still being worked on. Ram speeds can be tight for Superpi, but for pushing Orthos 8 hours you often have to run looser than spec at higher fsb's.
People keep emailing me asking for the bios, please do not ask. I will not post my findings here again, I'm afraid.
Linflas my friend, yes the board is great, thanks for recommending it
I can do exactly what I have done here with 0307 bios too.
Don't try to copy other people's ram timings or run at spec just to get an oc at higher fsbs (you may be able to, but not all ram works well on every motherboard you need to have a flexible mind), you gotta be prepared that you may have to run loose if you want long term OC tests. For Superpi you can run real tight if you like. Diffferent things require different measures.
regards
Raja
P5WDG2-WS Pro 0408
Here it is!
finally they posted it...we can get by all this darn secretes...it was gnawing on me.:D
thanks for the link,have to give this new bios some test time
Unlocked from x6 to x20 with the new BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by derektm
Only for X6800. E63, E64, E66 and E67 unlocked downwards from their respective default multiplers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon
And how about Kentsfield E6700 ES? Multipler up to 20 there too I guess?Quote:
Originally Posted by [timko]
Also, I have seen people getting a bit higher FSB with this BIOS. Sounds good!
I cannot test it today because of that my floppy-drive is drying today. My cat spilled coffee in it... :cool:
I did the update with Asus Update (Update BIOS from a file). Worked like a charm. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by blossa
I dared to try it and it worked. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon
So far with BIOS 0408 and Kentsfield E6700 ES:
Well, I can raise the multipler to 12 (stock is 10). If I raise it higher it automaticly lowers to 12. Maybe I missed something...(?) With BIOS 0004 and 0005 this was no problem.
Also, I can run the FSB with atleast 10MHz higher frequence. Maybe it does not sounds like much but for me it is a big difference. From 310 to 320 without problems, will try higher later.
Disabling one core does exactly as it says. I get three cores instead of four. It would have been great if it would have disabled 1, 2 or 3 cores after choice.
The vCore still drops when I put it over 1.6v.
The temperature sometimes seems to 'jump' about 30C° in BIOS. I might have missed this in earlyer BIOS-versions...
I also noticed the same, but for me it goes back to 13 if I set it to 14 or 15.Quote:
Originally Posted by blossa
CPU-Z also displays the Core 2 Duo logo with the multiplier 13. With multiplier 12 or lower CPU-Z displays correct Core 2 Extreme logo.
With 0005 I could set multiplier higher than 14.
New bios 0408
ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/s...S-PRO-0408.zip
Bay:)
Is this relevant to our Core 2 Duo chips?
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=896256
yes it is!
looks to be a gaming issue....and possibly the power stepping for the cpu...if it is disabled in the bios this might not be the big problem as described in the hotfix.
Most of the C2D overclocking threads have us disabling anything Speed Stepping or power C1 (power management) related right off the bat anyway. Since my P5W DH won't let me adjust CPU voltage with either of those enabled anyway.......
My P5B box has them disabled to. So My guess is for those of us who have voided our warranty anyway, it becomes a non-issue :cool:
I upgraded from 0005 to 0408... and i lost 24hr prime stability :(. in fact i lost 15 minute prime stabiltiy. I'm not a big fan of this bios version.
0005 is still the best.
I had some fun with the disable core option though. Could up the FSB another 30 to 430 and still be prime stable.
mds47
0005 bios would not recognize my USB 2.0 drive when booting (0004 and 0408 were ok); so, in effect, i would not be able to recover my OS since my images are stored on the USB 2.0 drive.
@ Simon: Where did you find bios: 0502 ?
You already got a link by Romses.Quote:
Originally Posted by nFo
Check VCore:
http://max.ownit.nu/BIOS0502.png
I don't think I could boot at any settings with vcore that low.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon
This bios still available?Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
So....in addition to my earlier question let me pose this one: Is the 0004 bios the best way to go for the P5WDG2 WS Pro running a 6600 and if not, which one is?
Thanks. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Romses
What has been changed in bios: 0502 ?
I have made a: Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro page with all bios versions. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro