Can you change the multi like in the Gigabytes?
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Can you change the multi like in the Gigabytes?
No multi change, infact CPUz is saying I'm running at 6X on a e6700:confused: I'm at like 1.6ghz, here we go...
i cant answer 100% cause i dont have mine yet but 99.99% you can adjust multi down but on unlocked x6800 you should be able to adjust it up and down
hmm that isnt right what bios is the board, do you remember or do you have to restart
are you still on the 601 BIOS or have you upgraded to the 711? It might just be a weak BIOS that you have.
Multi changes aren't available on the Asus' either...so MSI might have taken the Asus stingey route and blocked downward multis as well.
sorry for posting so much but also does the nb have active cooling hsf or is it just a hs
like this
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/produc...il.php?UID=713
or this
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/produc...il.php?UID=746
for the multipler problem, you need to disable something in bios. its kinda like CnQ for AMDs but this is Intel's. maybe someone can help me find the word.
Well, I don't know for sure what the cpu is running at. Windows is telling me 2.6, cpuz is saying 1.6. I ran Aquamark and scored 14500 on cpu and 24700on gpu. Thats higher than my old A64@3ghz so I don't know what to think. The bios chip says 700:confused:
SpeedStep ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by aiya
well what does it say at startup for bios
If SpeedStep is turned on, the CPU will drop to the 6 multiplier at idle. That's normal. It should show the correct speed under load. If it doesn't, then you really may be using the 6 multiplier. You can always double-check with another program like CrystalCPUID.
SpeedStep is often referred to as EIST (Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology).
thats the word! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
system specs?
I have a concern for this mobo. My Corsair RAM is rated at 2.2v and I have heard the MSI board RAM voltages default to 1.9v? Will this cause a POST problem when I get the board?
My ram is rated at 2.1 volts and it posted with 1.9. I can't really see what bios it is on screen, the damb board boots faster than even my DFI did. Pissing me off trying to see what bios I have. I turned speed step off and the cpu still drops to 6X. Tryed running 1to1 with 333FSB and 1.38 volts and she black screened on me. Turned power off and the board recoved easy. I see this is going to take someone who knows what the hell they are doing to get this board overclocking and that person is not me, lol.
possibly just like the ds3 which did 1.8v stock but 1.9v is better than the 1.8v, i think rodman fell asleep ive asked him a few times for specs and pics nothing yet:(Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottFern
as soon as i get mine ill lte yall know but thats not till this weekend
I don't have the MSI board, though I may try it out soon. I've used several other Conroe boards including the Asus P5W DH, the P5B Deluxe and the Intel Bad Axe. I have Kentsfield and a 6600ES.Quote:
Originally Posted by aiya
great ur awake :D
no no u must stay with it ill give whatever help i can, which might not be enough:( but i will sure do my best and am sure others will love to help also
is 1.38 volts stock, i would up it to 1.4v maybe 1.45v
but if it really is only at 6x, it shows that way in cpuz
and like sierra_bound
You can always double-check with another program like CrystalCPUID.
his post is a few above
also please give rest of the system specs
in my test with this spec:
Core Duo 6300 @2800
MSI 975x PowerUp Ed using bios ver 711
2gb TeamExtreem 667
Seasonic S12 600w
MSI NX7900GT-VT2D256E @578/1798
The results of test Aquamark :
CPU :16.676
GPU :23.784
so u hit 400fsb:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by 4n70n
could you go any higher, were u using stock hsf, if not what kind
What is your RAM voltage rated at? Was it the same as 1.9v default?Quote:
Originally Posted by 4n70n
I wonder if better cooling on the northbridge will help with that at all? I plan on using an aftermarket HS and a fan to mount on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rodman
well the team stuff at 3-3-3-8 is set for 1.8~1.9v
which is for the newer sets but cant remember if its the same for the 3-4-4-8 kits
Can somone tell me why this board has to be rev 2?
'Cuz Coolaler sez so :D
I got my MSI 975X from Ewiz a couple hours ago. It was version 2.1 power up edition for those of you wondering :) . The install went smoothly and the system started up normally. The only problem I ran into was installing my Big Typhoon, this was because my case was completely full. The biggest problem I am having right now is horrible temps. I am still waiting for my conroe so I am using my ES PD 950 and at 12x200 1.16Vcore I idle at 48 in bios and 52 in windows :(. If I even try to go to my stock speed of 3.4 Ghz I start getting into the mid 60s. My board came with bios 6xx. Aside from this, I can't seem to flash the bios using the MSI live update thing, can anyone assist me in this? I think my temp problem may be because I did not apply the thermal compound correctly or maybe I did not tighten the screws on the big typhoon enough. Can anyone help me with my heat problem and also help me with the bios flashing?
Thanks, If I can get these problems sorted out I can actually OC or something.
HELP! :(
Lol that was quick.. its 6:42 in the morning here (UK) ok I'll look for a ver 2 board. I suppose I can take it out of the box and check the PCB.
i think this is the new bios
http://www.venomousmofo.com/XtremeSy...20Powerup/711/
thanks to Haltech
dont know but u might nee a floppy or have to put it ona disc
as far as heat i would uninstall, clean off cpu and hsf, then reaply and re seat the bt
As an Intel motherboard user I have always been used to the auto bios update and don't exactly know how to flash via floopy or CD. Can you tell me how? And about the heat, how much thermal compound should I add? Any other tips? Thanks. It takes a long time for me to install the Tt BT so i don't want to mess up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun_Strife
Do a google or forum search on how to flash a BIOS. it's easy :) Just a few DOS commands.
Basically, you get the BIOS and put it on a bootable floppy as well as a DOS flash program from MSI (should be on their site or something). Then you boot up and run the program (type DIR at the A:\ prompt if you don't know the exact name of the program) and follow what it says. You can do this with a USB thumb drive too.
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Originally Posted by 5-Clicks
Ok, I have a USB 1 gig drive ready, so how do I boot from USB? I just change boot sequence to USB drives and put the bios file into the MSI flash program and just go from there?
I'm not sure as I've never done it with a USB thumb drive. You might need to reformat it as a Bootable Disk in windows (My Computer, right click on the drive, format, check "Make Bootable Disk" or something like that)
BTW, ewiz has the MSI 975x V.2 back in stock and on their site.
No..i am not using stock hsf....i am using TT Big water 745..Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun_Strife
My TeamXtreem voltage rated at 2.0-2.2V...and in the bios i used 2.1vQuote:
Originally Posted by ScottFern
By the way, I found another place with the MSI 975X V.2 in stock.
http://www.cesell.com/product.php?productid=65138
I just ordered from there. ResellerRatings shows 8.75 Lifetime and they accept Paypal...so you can use your bank account. :) I'll let you guys know how it goes once I get the board.
When I had to flash the bios on a DFI, I simply downloaded the file to my hard drive and double clicked the icon and it saved it to a floppy and everything. Then I just booted to floppy 1st and that was it... I don't know how to flash an MSI mobo either:rolleyes:
sorry i was gone guys i was playing dark messiah
well b4 on my msi boards i was able to use the live bios/live update
first what goes wrong when u try and use that
heres how its supposed to be done if ur not using live update
Users who download BIOS here(not using Live Update) should use the flash utility, attached in the downloading compressed file package, to conduct BIOS update. To avoid BIOS update failure, please don't try to use the utility which is the old version or not sourced from here.
After clicking the downloading hyperlink, there will be a pop-up window appearing for you to select a server to download files you need. To make sure this pop-up window can be opened smoothly, please disable your anti-pop-up program and authorize our site in advance
I don't have a floppy drive and I can't get my board to boot from my USB even though I formated it as a bootable drive and changed boot sequence. Don't know what to do now. I am underclocked 400 mhz and running 54 idle now :( with big typhoon.Quote:
Originally Posted by rodman
what does the live update do when u try and use it to flash? make sure your using IE also since from my experience Firefox will not load the msi live update period
i used floppy drive to update the bios....with this syntax:
awfl865 w7246ims.711 /py/sn/r/cc/cd/cp/f
make sure the floppy drive is bootable and good...
No Floppy, cant get the USB to boot. Does anyone know how to get this to work with a CD?
ah nice altho simple wfl865 w7246ims.711 woulda done it, havent seen those commands in a bit, whats /r and /f? i know
/PY is the command to program the flash memory
/SN is the command to back up the old BIOS to the floppy??
/CD is the command to clear the DMI data after programming
/CP is the command to clear the Plug'n'Play data after programming
/CC is the command to clear the CMOS data after programming
prolly same way for cd, just burn the system files u have on ur usb along with the flash utility and new bios and set boot from cd first.....
btw can you check your private messages Cupholder
is the 975x platinum use award or AMI bios ?
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Originally Posted by egyteam
award
pretty sure its Award
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Originally Posted by Core2Extremist
Do I simply burn it or some how burn it as bootable CD? Will it boot if I just burn it? And about your PM, I will respond in just a sec.
nah simply burn it, if you set it to boot from cd and you got the system files on there it should boot just fine
you can see it in awfl865 /?Quote:
Originally Posted by Core2Extremist
/r is the command to reset systems after programming
/f is the command to use flash routines in original bios for flash programming
However...what do you guys used for monitoring temp?
download LiveUpdate 3 and don't use the auto update, go to the liveupdate folder and then you will see Award folder and then WinFlash.exe and follow this instructions, make sure to select all options on the left
this site for reference how to use the winflash, don't use the winflash version on this site.
http://www.ecsusa.com/downloads/winFlash.html
ooh good find egyteam
isnt that how easy it is supposed to be using live updateQuote:
Originally Posted by egyteam
well gl guys hope u get this nailed out soon i need some sleep
o and ur the man egyteam:thumbsup: (as long as it works;) )
Thanks for the help, the bios flashed but CPUZ still shows version 6.00PG. Why? :(
did you check all the options on the left ?
Everything expect the clear CMOS and CMOS default. My bios also has max FSB of 265, I hope this is because of my crappy bios version?Quote:
Originally Posted by egyteam
I will check.Quote:
Originally Posted by Core2Extremist
did you load optimized default settings before flashing ?
Bios says Version W7246IMS V.7.1B1
i would say thats 711 no? not sure why cpu-z is acting up, thats interesting, 4n70n if ur still around here can you check what your cpu-z says since you have it updated alrdy as well
that's mean it has been flashed with the new version.Quote:
Originally Posted by cupholder2.0
what was the orginal bios you have when you got the mobo, 7.0 ?
To be honest I really have no idea what bios I started with becuase CPUZ called my first bios 6.00PG, when I flashed it to the new one it still calls it 6.0PG even though it isn't. I didn't check system information in the bios before flashing either, so I probably won't ever know. Anyway my max FSB is still 265 :(. What do you guys see for max FSB? BTW I am using an ES Pentium D 950.
im pretty sure it was 7.0 for him ya, he originally said his was "6" but from what I read he said up top, he mentions "my bios is "still" 6.00PG" so I think he was checking it thru Cpu-Z originally while it was always reading it wrong.
Edit: Ya I thought so Cupholder lol, i knew it was weird evryones was 7 and urs was the only one with 6... but umm yea maybe its that cpu thats locking it at 265 but really cant be sure, altho I know 4n70n overclocked his alrdy up to 400fsb I think with that bios so shouldnt be a problem
I suggest to use the final version on MSI site version 7.0 and reflash the bios with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by cupholder2.0
be sure to load optimized default settings before you flah, and choose all options on the left in winflash program, after the flash finishes, a message will ask you to restart, choose NO and then shutdown your PC, unplug your power cord and clear CMOS, power on the PC and load optimzed default settings
altho i doubt its the actual bios itself even tho its not "officialy" supported yet on the msi site, I really think its the way you flashed it, if you did any kind of overclocking on that chip and did not do "load optimized default settings" before you flashed that can mess things up easy
I don't think it was set to "Load Optimized Defaults". So I will try this agian tommorow. Since I just installed a fresh windows install and I also reset my CMOS, windows said my 30 day validation period is over and I must activate, but I am too lazy so I will do it tommorow...lol. Anyway I must also fix my heat problems, as I write this (on my second system) my main system is idling in bios at 57 on stock settings :(.
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Yes, in the CPU-Z bios ver is 6.00PG...but i am sure that i already flash the bios.
Nice, whats the max your MSI/TeamXtreem will go? Have the same setup coming on Friday though with e6400.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4n70n
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Originally Posted by cupholder2.0
Its supposed to say 6.00PG. This is the actual version of the Award Bios software, and NOT the version of BIOS written for the motherboard.
Right now i can't past FSB 420....Quote:
Originally Posted by RacerX
WinFlash = blowz0r, do it the old fashioned ways guys, or even with a USB stick!
i don't belive i just flicked through 7 pages of this thread ...without any results :rolleyes:
I know. Someone out there must have one ready to go. I get mine tonight,
E6600 comes Friday.
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Originally Posted by a5h
Heres some advice if it hasnt been said before. VPCIE goes hand in hand with VMCH, stock unmodded board Kyosen can hit 454fsb. (with 1.8v VPCIE select) ;)
You guys having any OVP issues with this board w/ high vcore?
A few notes...
I got this mobo from NewEgg, it ships with 7.0 bios.
No multi options for cpu up or down.
Make sure you set your ram to manual timings as the board will boot diif timmings almost every time and may be holding some back.
1.9 volts will be enough to post on most any ram.
Supports 2 ide channels, a big plus for some.
CrystalCPUID allows me to change multi down.
Ok I followed all the directions given to me by egyteam in the previous page. The result? No changes :(. Im still stuck at max FSB of 265 and I can still change mutli from 12-17....Is this 265 FSB max thing happening because im using an ES PD 950? I don't understand why.
No multiplier options?
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Originally Posted by pcdoc1
I change change multis, but I have an ES 950d.
It's not even an option with a 6700... Looks like other one being returned...
Maybe future bios update will fix.
Without out downward multupliers they won't sell enough of these to bother with fixing it....
Are the retail chips, other than X6800, supposed to have changeable multipliers?Quote:
Originally Posted by pcdoc1
Usually the multiplier is internally locked on retail Intel chips. The exceptions being the Extreme Edition processors and engineering samples.
Also, the BIOS options usually change slightly, depending on what type of CPU you use.
The same retail E6700 had 'em in the Gig DS3 an hour ago. The manual shows the multiplier option and states that it will appear and be available if the cpu supports the option. Seems like if Gigabyte can make it happen, MSI could also... I haven't tested an Asus board yet, are the multiplier options accessible on retail chips in their boards?Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
So I have gathered a few tips from this thread:
1) 1.9v is enough to boot most DDR2 RAM modules
2) Use the 711 bios via usb drive or floppy
3) Disable SpeedStep
4) Load optimized defaults before flashing the bios
5) ?????
No one has commented if an active cooling Northbridge solution helps increase FSB?
I have already bought a Thermalright HR-05 w/ 70mm fan waiting for the mobo to get here.
Please fill me in if I missed anything? I just want a smooth transition once I setup this board.
Usually you have to disable an option in the bios for multipliers to appear on the Conroes. Although it IS possible only the X6800 will appear with MP's until a bios revision.
You *have* called MSI on the phone and asked them about this, haven't you? (or at least tried to email them), before returning the board ?
Well, I just got word from cesell.com.
Bummer, but I must say, I'm impressed with the clarity of this site and service. I asked for an ETA and will update here when I get an answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by CESell.com
I asked MSI some questions via email about ovp and vreg once, never got another reply from them again lol. If you ask simple questions you can email and they will reply after a week or two, if it's complex and requires actual knowledge about the board forget it, just call.
Well, that would be a first for an Intel retail chip in quite some time. Has anyone tested to see if the lower multipliers on the Gigabyte board actually work?Quote:
Originally Posted by pcdoc1
I think the Intel chips that have EIST if the mobos BIOS supports it you can change some of the multi's default and lower, to a certen point. I remember Asus set it up to were you could have like 14 to 17 on some of the presshotts that had EIST.
Presshotts lol....Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue078
wow this is really sad that this board is suck a pile of sh|t.
so sad indeed i was really hoping for an MSI winner.
sorry to hear you guys got some real lame boards.
best go get yourself a DS3 ;)
Well they have worked for the last four days! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
6 - 10
With a mature bios and some good northbridge cooling we should be able to hit 450FSB. I won't give up on this board yet. Its been out like a week?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Atleast our boards don't run in PIO mode :). Anyway you need to give some more time for the board before you judge...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
It's far from a pile of shyt... Just no downward multipliers, that could change with a bios release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
You are really a piece of work. For two weeks you :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:, moan and complain 'bout what garbage the DS3 is (and you were right), and now after stating that your wife won't let you spend any more money it became the best product on the planet... Incrediable. :rolleyes:
I was asking the question. I didn't realize I was talking to Mr. Intel.:rolleyes: Sorry, won't bother you again. God, you are intolerable.Quote:
Originally Posted by pcdoc1
Wow guys, can we please get back on topic? Lets stop the flaming please...
This is a fairly immature board and we've only seen 2 results so far...and they're aren't anything conclusive at that. Lets give it some time. A couple of guys should have their backordered orders from ewiz by this weekend or shortly after. Lets wait patiently for some more results, shall we?
So does anyone have any idea on why my bios will only let me go up to 265 fsb? Dual core center allows up to 280 and clockgen up to 600 ofcourse. I would just use clockgen right now but my heat problems are so bad that I can't pass 250 fsb anyway lol.
This is post #200 and we do not know much more about it then post #1. Friday I get one from Ewiz and hope to post something on it. I can't believe nobody has posted any ss on it.:confused:
Mr. Coolaler posted more ss in the first post of the first thread he did on it then we have in this whole thread.:eek: