Retail BOX X6800 Stepping 6 B2

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07-15-2006, 06:28 PM
Gautam

Not all B1's are incredible...the one I had was a little bit inferior to these X6800 results.
07-15-2006, 06:39 PM
lutjens

I think that people's expectations may have been inflated with all the ES overclocking that's been going on and now this is a dose of reality. Overclocking really is luck of the draw. I have an X6800 (retail box) on the way and I bought it solely for the unlocked multiplier. It will come in handy when proving CPU ability, as well allowing extra headroom when running phase. I fully expect the E6700 to equal the air overclock i get (it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see them come out of the same speed bin). What I'm really bought when I purchased my X6800 is the use of the fully unlocked multiplier. To me, it's a luxury I plan to exploit under the Mach II.;)
07-15-2006, 06:48 PM
ArcTan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gautam

Not all B1's are incredible...the one I had was a little bit inferior to these X6800 results.

I think Chainbolt on OCAU said he had 3 X6800 ES of which the best cpu did 4.1ghz on air and the worst 3.4ghz on air. I don't think a sample of a few retail cpus is enough to say that they don't overclock as well as the step 5 ES cpu's we've seen
07-15-2006, 06:51 PM
Gautam

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutjens

I think that people's expectations may have been inflated with all the ES overclocking that's been going on and now this is a dose of reality. Overclocking really is luck of the draw. I have an X6800 (retail box) on the way and I bought it solely for the unlocked multiplier. It will come in handy when proving CPU ability, as well allowing extra headroom when running phase. I fully expect the E6700 to equal the air overclock i get (it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see them come out of the same speed bin). What I'm really bought when I purchased my X6800 is the use of the fully unlocked multiplier. To me, it's a luxury I plan to exploit under the Mach II.;)

You and me both, bro. ;) How's the black look coming along? :D
07-15-2006, 07:03 PM
[cTx]Philosophy

I agree 6600 is where its at
I wish someone would buy a ton of amd dual core stuff so I can afford one :P
ONE...day ONE....day.....
07-15-2006, 08:58 PM
DeToNaToR.cl

I need to see B2 in Ln2 maybe is poor air clocker due high temps ;) (100% load fix)
07-15-2006, 09:00 PM
ssnseawolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcTan

I think Chainbolt on OCAU said he had 3 X6800 ES of which the best cpu did 4.1ghz on air and the worst 3.4ghz on air. I don't think a sample of a few retail cpus is enough to say that they don't overclock as well as the step 5 ES cpu's we've seen

Where do I sign up to get 3 X6800 ES chips?
07-15-2006, 09:41 PM
mdzcpa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gautam

Not all B1's are incredible...the one I had was a little bit inferior to these X6800 results.

Yep. So true. Expectations are out of line. Mine topped at 3800 on water for 24/7 use.

No one remembers the "lesser" clocks:)
07-15-2006, 09:44 PM
NiCKE^

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdzcpa

Yep. So true. Expectations are out of line. Mine topped at 3800 on water for 24/7 use.

No one remembers the "lesser" clocks:)

Why remember bad things when there's good things? :)
07-15-2006, 09:45 PM
theteamaqua

i think when most of us heard E6600 can do 4GHz we assume it can run at that frequency stable, but we never seen any E6600 ,6700 ES B1 on 4GHz running dual prime for 9 hours ... all we seen were either E6700 or E6600 @ 4Ghz doing super pi 1M theres big diffrence between super pi 1M, 32M stalbe vs dual prime stable.

PS: all on tower 120, no wc,phase
07-15-2006, 09:45 PM
Shpoon

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Originally Posted by charlie

oh how depressing, ONLY a ONE GHZ overclock.

:rolleyes:

Nah, it's just because of the hype we were hoping for more. It's still impressive, just not by recent standards.
07-15-2006, 10:40 PM
Dumo

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Originally Posted by Tallman

Uhmm...I guess I wasn't clear enough. I mean, is the printscreen the method you guys use, or do you use something else? And what res do you take them at to make them visible on this forum, or does it matter?
I knew how to use printscreen. I'm not THAT noob.:D

Heres a good one...http://www.gadwin.com/products.htm?prnscr
07-15-2006, 11:06 PM
redpriest

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdzcpa

Yep. So true. Expectations are out of line. Mine topped at 3800 on water for 24/7 use.

No one remembers the "lesser" clocks:)

Yes, and I got lamblasted for not knowing what I was doing multiple times. LOL. It was easier to insult me than realize maybe my sample wasn't all that hot. Still, 3.733 ghz 24/7 stable on water is more than I could have asked for. I can't wait to put this under my prommie.
07-15-2006, 11:20 PM
DJ Krypplephite

Hey as soon as anyone gets a new stepping, you let us know if it OC's any different than B2. I'd like to get a B0 or B1 myself, eBay here I come, unless you guys would be willing to sell ES samples for a retail chip (which wouldn't make any sense to me, but you never know).
07-16-2006, 05:34 AM
Vric

I'm sure by the end of the year, we will see Retail 5Ghz Core 2 Duo anyway..
07-16-2006, 05:56 AM
Vric

retail hitting 5ghz I mean (not 5Ghz chip by intel :p:)
we already see some ES chip hitting that.
07-16-2006, 06:14 AM
berk

*Speculation*
I think Intel are very well aware of their refined processes now.
What i'm saying is they let loose some pretty great clockers as ES's to showcase the new wonder core (which it is) and are holding back those chips to become X6800 future processors.
The enthusiast market is one guys like us will pay a pretty penny to get the best we can,with Dell having bought Alienware,theres only more growth and more profit for Intel to benefit from.So thats the direction for those CPU's, and not the retail ones.*/speculation*

I hope im wrong,obviously....;)
07-16-2006, 06:26 AM
Kjaks

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Originally Posted by theteamaqua

also why is it disapointed?? its power consumption is 75W at stock . more heat.. harder to OC compare to E6700's 65W.

E6700 also consume 75W at X6800 speeds, as long as vcore is the same.
07-16-2006, 07:19 AM
Artmic

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcTan

I think Chainbolt on OCAU said he had 3 X6800 ES of which the best cpu did 4.1ghz on air and the worst 3.4ghz on air. I don't think a sample of a few retail cpus is enough to say that they don't overclock as well as the step 5 ES cpu's we've seen

Damn, 3.4 from 2.93 isn't much of a jump on air alone, only 14% increase, damn i hope i can at least get to the 3.46Ghz on air with a Tower120
07-16-2006, 07:24 AM
Artmic

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Originally Posted by Vric

I'm sure by the end of the year, we will see Retail 5Ghz Core 2 Duo anyway..

I have this suspicion that Intel will be cranking up Conroe speed every 6 months, in increments of 200Mhz at best... and milking this over the next 2 years at least. Until AMD does something to force Intel’s hand.

So we are talking 800-1000Mhz increase over the next 2 years :) (If we are lucky)
07-16-2006, 01:49 PM
Your_Boss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artmic

I have this suspicion that Intel will be cranking up Conroe speed every 6 months, in increments of 200Mhz at best... and milking this over the next 2 years at least. Until AMD does something to force Intel’s hand.

So we are talking 800-1000Mhz increase over the next 2 years :) (If we are lucky)

Probably true. :D Let the speed-binning games.....BEGIN! :p:
07-16-2006, 04:42 PM
.:\dGh/:.

But we need more B2 overclocks. Not only X6800.

Most of the people will buy no more than E6600s, and that's the main market of intel and most of most companies.
07-16-2006, 05:14 PM
tal47

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Originally Posted by Blue078

ROFLMAO :toast:

LOL
07-16-2006, 10:14 PM
Franky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artmic

I have this suspicion that Intel will be cranking up Conroe speed every 6 months, in increments of 200Mhz at best... and milking this over the next 2 years at least. Until AMD does something to force Intel’s hand.

So we are talking 800-1000Mhz increase over the next 2 years :) (If we are lucky)

Kentsfield coming soon :)
07-17-2006, 04:10 AM
FunkyRider

sorry, you gotta be disappointed, MHz race is over

now comes multi-core race

Keifer the 32 core monster in Intel's lab is running just over 2GHz
07-17-2006, 08:35 AM
redpriest

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artmic

I have this suspicion that Intel will be cranking up Conroe speed every 6 months, in increments of 200Mhz at best... and milking this over the next 2 years at least. Until AMD does something to force Intel’s hand.

So we are talking 800-1000Mhz increase over the next 2 years :) (If we are lucky)

Good for them - I'm sitting pretty at 3.733 mhz, so I'm already "there"
07-17-2006, 11:10 AM
xgman

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Originally Posted by pcdoc1

(No chance the ES's where juiced... Can't be) :nono:

I am thinking that is excatly what went on.
07-19-2006, 11:08 PM
Artmic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franky

Kentsfield coming soon :)

True but watch them release 2.1 or 2.4Ghz quad core cpu LOL i wouldn't purchase one of those if i could OC the 6800 to at least 3.46Ghz.

Man is it me or is the entire industry messed up....... power supplies are wack, motherbaords are wacked, Cases can't fit PCI cards on them, (cough cough Stacker).... vid cards aren't compatible with some motherboards (or are they, who knows nVidia 7950/Asus)...
07-19-2006, 11:09 PM
Artmic

Quote:

Originally Posted by redpriest

Good for them - I'm sitting pretty at 3.733 mhz, so I'm already "there"

3.7 is very cool i wish i could hit that, but i'd be happy with even 3.46Ghz, with just the multiplier set higher on the bad axe board.
07-19-2006, 11:14 PM
theteamaqua

better board might help?? and more experienced OCer?? like coolaler hehe
07-20-2006, 04:50 AM
Eastcoasthandle

my only problem with this kentsfield is that all ES chips will have 4 perfectly, evenly OC'able, evenly voltaged, cores while the retail version will not. How do you speed bin 4 cores? Just think for one 1 minute here. That's a lot of wasted wafers to get 4 perfect cores each and everytime. Therefore, the probability that retail versions will have at least 1 cpu that cannot OC well is high at best. It's all in the probability baby, deal with it.
07-28-2006, 06:57 PM
[G.N.U.]Fragman

i just got a e6600 6 B2 ...i havnt got the mobo yet, but what can i expect on air ?

running tower 112 (in the beginning) on a asus p5w dh without mods..and ocz pc6400 XTC..i know u cant tell me excatly, but any good guesses would be nice.
07-28-2006, 07:38 PM
Supertim0r

3.6ghz probably :)
07-28-2006, 07:46 PM
[G.N.U.]Fragman

then ill go for 3,7 :D ...3,5-3,7 would not be bad at all....actually my first intel cpu ever.....
07-28-2006, 08:03 PM
Supertim0r

it's really fast, you'll love it ;)
07-29-2006, 08:58 AM
lowrider007

you think the OP has got it bad, the highest stable O/C I can get on my X6800 is 3.2 :( , all this last week I've tried everything to hit a stable 3.4, from lowering the the multiplier right down and ramping the fsb up and just o/c'ing via the multiplier and still no joy even upto 1.55v

X6800
Scythe Miné
G.Skill 2GB DDR2 LA PC2-5400
BadAxe 3.4rev retail - Bios 1334
Tagan 480

Yes I know the mem is'nt the fastest but I tried lowring the speed and losening the timings of it when upping the fsb and also just o/c'ing using the multiplier which does'nt effect the ram,

I'm pretty new to o/c'ing so I don't really know what stepping the cpu is, in cpu-z it says its stepping 6 rev B2, on my cpu it says 2.93GHZ/4M/1066/05B
07-29-2006, 09:29 AM
lowrider007

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Originally Posted by brentpresley

Look into a different board. If you are new to OCing, then I doubt you are going to have the skills to tweak the BadAxe. Nothing personal, but that board is looking like it takes a LOT of expertise to get running well when overclocked.

np mate, no offence taken, do you have any recomendations on which m/b to try.
07-29-2006, 10:16 AM
berk

Gigabyte DS range. :)
07-29-2006, 11:41 AM
[G.N.U.]Fragman

or even better asus p5w DH ...its not that hard even for newbies....
07-30-2006, 02:41 PM
[G.N.U.]Fragman

btw when will a conroe core begin to get unstable (temps) about 60c or so?
07-31-2006, 02:54 AM
rob[GL]

Hehe, I can finally post in a thread about new stuffs...

Check out mine...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../loadtemps.jpg

X6800 on BADAXE

14x266 @ 1.45v

50c under load 40c idle
08-30-2006, 07:24 AM
Mr Footlong

Hi folks. I don't suppose you could tell me if there is any way of figuring out what stepping a X6800 is just from the sticker on the box is there? I am contemplating doing a trade with a friend for a sealed boxed E6700 for his X6800 and don't want to gamble on getting a more expensive, possibly worse overclocking chip. The chip is in his machine atm so I cannot read anything off the IHS.

Cheers,

Nick :).

Edit. Got a cold and brain dropped out of head. I will try to coax him into reading off CPU-Z........

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