So we're talking either 8000 memory at low timings or 6400 very tight?
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So we're talking either 8000 memory at low timings or 6400 very tight?
6400 @ 3-4-3. With more voltage I canprobably run 3-3-3 at same speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anemone
Wonderful results there. One quick question: Is the ASUS bootable past 400FSB? (i.e. Not via Windows Clockgen) I'm asking this because my A8N32-SLI does up to 430HTT, but only by baby steps from 350HTT. (Like, 350-> 360-> 370->.. etc.)
For instance, does it boot without any quirk @400x9, from, say, 300x9 for one reboot? And when you power off the machine and turn it back on, does it boot @400x9 with no issue? I'd much appreciate it if you can share your experience. I've had some trouble with ASUS voards in the past because of their unstable voltage regulations.
Thanks. Yes, you can boot up above 400FSB. The maximum seems to depend on the board and the BIOS. With 0078 BIOS, I was able to boot up at 445 with maximum BIOS voltages on everything except VCore.
One thing I forgot to mention. Don't use Clockgen. It doesn't work very well on this board. Use SetFSB instead. Link. Even though the program says "P5WD2", it was recently updated to work with P5W DH.
Thanks. I'm sure you will. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
OMEGA-san, thank you and thanks for dropping by. I've seen your test results with TeamGroup PC2-5300. Looks very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by OMEGA3
Big thanks for a quick reply. It answered my long-time (well, at least for a week :D ) question that hadn't been answered anywhere else. I truly appreciate it.
i dont know if its wrong for me to ask this but i havnt seen anyone ask this so ill go for it
whats your idle and load and whats safe?
With VCore at 1.6v, AiBooster showed temps in the low 30's at idle and low to mid-40's under load. I think AiBooster readings are a little on the low side. Running dual Prime at 1.6v with air-cooling will cause temps to skyrocket. Very high 50's. My guess is that temps were actually in the 60's. I would advise people not to attempt dual Prime on air with that much voltage.
Is there not a way to put some type of probe on the cpu or the bottom of the heatsink to get direct temps? Perhaps its very hard or risky to do? Just curious
A lot of people are wondering about the temps with conroe, Im geting reports of very cool to :cussing: hot at idle with water and air.
I don't have a thermal probe, so I can't do that test. With VCore below 1.55v and a decent HSF, you should be fine. But people who want to run dual Prime on air will find they're probably going to have to lower voltage and CPU speed a lot. But since this is the Xtreme Overclocking section, I'm not worried about voltage, as long as my CPU does not melt. :)
i also love to get benches and hi speeeds but i neeed to use my computer for stuff like gaming and cal so i need it to be safe and stable but i was also trying to figure out if its possible to get speeds near yours with it safe and stable
Watercooling might help. I think it's going to be hard finding an air-cooled E6600 or E6700 that's dual Prime stable at 4GHz. Might have a better chance with an X6800.
I have a practical side too. :) My E6600 is mainly for testing. It may eventually end up in a 24/7 system. But for now, I'm just having fun testing the limits of the chip.
And yes, you can get decent bandwidth on Conroe platform. :D
Sandra unbuffered
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/263/sandra4360jy.jpg
I have been trying for the last day to get my E6600 to even post using the DFI Infinity board :mad:
I have an 830D that I have used to change settings (it works fine with this POS chip :rolleyes: ), I have tried all the ram settings from 400 upto 667, I have tried really loose timings with no luck, I have tried with just one stick of my G.Skill 6400 with no luck, tried upping Vcore, NDv etc etc and each time I do any change I then put the E6600 back in but each time its the same.....................nothing, no post, no bios, I have even changed/tried every bios with no luck
I have now swapped over CPU's 16 times and I am now convinced this Conroe is dead :stick: :(
Sierra.. what is youre max fsb ~ 1.65 vmch
Max FSB with air-cooling and Vmch at 1.65v is 450. As soon as I buy a new tip for my soldering iron, I will do the Vmch mod. Just too busy with other things right now.
How do you get FSB beyond 400? I thought the P5W DH locks it there.
No, there is no lock. Many people have gone above 400FSB without mods. You generally need to increase MCH (memory controller hub) chipset voltage.
Still on air. Board still unmodded. I think I will make 4100MHz. Wish it wasn't so hot in my area. Even with A/C on, ambient temp is still 23-24C.
http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/9268/454x99ov.jpg
time to freeze the MCH hehe
as always pretty results... Impressive
Still on air, board still unmodded.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/4112.jpg
Nice going sierra.......put the board in front of the a/c system now? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
mine maxed out @ 4204 mhz on air, however the board was modded now.
max fsb 1m stable 500fsb 1.90vmch :banana:
keep it @ air? or gonna try something else too? next is phase here.
I may do Vmch mod. Just been lazy. The VR's are sitting right in front of me. :rolleyes:
Yes, I saw your results. Awesome job. :toast:
pop on the mod...... :stick:
the system gonna be a lot more stable @ 1.74vmch and maxed out on 475-480.
The board is holding you up now, see if you can reach 11.9xx sec s-pi, i've tryed but can't becouse of the corsairs.
E6600 rendering power at 4GHz
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ebench4000.jpg
4M
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...10/4M40051.jpg
Dropped multiplier down to 7 and raised FSB. And remember this is with Conroe, not Allendale.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/465X7.jpg
nice board sierra, try'd multi 8 too? the lower the multi the higher the fsb.
so when you getting 465 on multi 7 you can't reach that on nine, even with good cooling on the cpu
don't ask me why but notished that here too, i think chipset gonna be stressed more then.
I think 8 & 9 multi's gave me same FSB results when I tested earlier. Will test again tonight when it gets cooler.
I decided, screw the hot weather :D , and ran tests at 8x. Surprisingly maximum FSB is almost as good as 7x.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/464X8.jpg
Dual-SP2004 stability with FSB over 450 (455X8). I know 30 minutes won't satisfy some people. But you can't please everyone. ;) Ignore the CPU speed in the SP2004 GUI. That's what I booted up at. I changed multiplier and FSB while in Windows. AiBooster reads correct FSB and CPU speeds.
Just my personal observation. The system feels rock solid, even with FSB at 450+. Of course, your mileage may vary.
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7...04455x8ve0.jpg
running nice sierra
i think you got one of the best board's i've seen, with a mod this baby would fly
nice temps too for dual prime, 48 degrees @ your'e place is nice.
now pop on the mod and go for the 500+ :D
Thanks Rol-Co. :) Sometimes luck has a way of changing. My first Conroe board was a Bad Axe. It did well until it mysteriously died. Then a friend sent me a P5W DH from Asia and it died due to pin damage in the socket. Not sure how that happened. At that point I was ready to renounce life and join a monastery. lol. Then I got this board along with the E6600 and life has been good. :D
hi sierra,
up to that frequency you succeed in holding the rams 1:1?
I have felt to say that this board doesn't climb very with ram in synchro..
it's the same in your experiens?
thank you and congrats for the nice result ;)
lol, these chips aren't even widely available and you've already got history with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Highest I've done 1:1 is 455. Highest at 4:3 is 465. Other boards like the DFI Infinity won't even do 400 unless you use 4:3. My board seems to be better than other P5W DH's. Someone had once told me I'd be lucky to do 430 @ 1:1 without Vmch mod.Quote:
Originally Posted by lupacchiotto
I decided to take Rol-Co's advice and loosen timings while running 4:3. Now up to 470 FSB.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/470X7.jpg
5-5-5 timings did not really help me. By adjusting secondary timings a little more, I might be able to go higher on FSB.
Do you think you could have a 24/7 rig at 4/4.1 with descent watercooling Sierra? I plan on having a similar rig :bows:
4-4.1GHz is going to be very hard 24/7 with an E6600. 3.9GHz is possible though. You need both a good chip and a good board. I lucked out this time. I haven't even touched the NB yet. Improved cooling there might yield another 5-6MHz on FSB.
whats the highest dual prime stable (or at least dual 32m stable) u can go??
Guess 3.8 or so will be the sweet spot for me unless I get lucky. Thanks for the quick reply!
BTW- Which boards allow you to turn off one core aka cooler managed to do such and got a hefty oc off it. Hopefully a bios update will allow such on your board.
I've run dual-SP2004 at 3.85GHz. Seemed fine except temps were extremely high. I'm not too concerned about Prime because this is primarily a benching/fun rig, not a 24/7 system. Most of the people who start threads in the Xtreme Overclocking section do not run Prime. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by theteamaqua
sierra, is that 440+ fsb bootable? or ajustable only in windows?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Nice to see its working sierra :) 470 fsb on a unmodded board is awesome
i think you got a killer board here :banana:
maybe its a spinning in my head , but i think when you build the fsb easely on the board its gonna be higher at the end.
my first board was in and in 5 min i had to know what max fsb was, look what it got me 400fb max
second one i build up with little steps and running s-pi/pifast all the time between.
maybe i'm wrong about this but it doesn't hurt if you do ......isn't it?
Yes, I agree with you. Yonah & AOpen board were also like that. Gradually raising FSB often gave the best overclock. Sometimes being too greedy will lead to disappointment.
I thought the E6600 multiplier was locked but your results say`s that the multiplier is locked up ? :) ( so you can go lower than 9 but not highter .... ? )Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
I have an ES chip, so I can use multipliers from 6 to 9. Retail Conroes (except the X6800) will have locked multipliers.
Ahhhh, well, 9 x 450 = 4050, that`s my goal, I don`t need others. 8 x 500 sounds great, but then again, that`s almost twice the normal speed and I don`t think it`s good for the mch and more important, I don`t like vmods ...
edit : afcourse you can phase change the chipset of the asus P5W DH deluxe :slobber:
credits goes to ojdr2001 !
http://www.ojdr2001.com/Imagens/asus490fsba.JPG
So nice to see these high clocks on air. Gives me much hope.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal..._Asus_177.html
" Note: In order for a Core 2 DUO (Conroe) processor to work with the Asus P5W DH Deluxe mainboard you may require to perform a BIOS update which will require an older processor or contacting Asus for a new BIOS chip. OcUK does not provide a BIOS flashing service and will not accept used product back unwanted as this board does support Conroe with Asus latest BIOS "
Somebody know if this is true ?
Stepping 5 ES chips require 0502 BIOS or higher. I don't know about retail chips. My CPU would not boot with 401 BIOS. But I already had a Cedar Mill chip, so I used it to boot up and update BIOS.
I think a few people with earlier steppings were able to boot up with 0401. You can always ask Asus to send you a new BIOS chip that supports Conroe.
There should be a yellow sticker on the BIOS chip. It will indicate what BIOS the board was shipped with.
Hi Sierra-san
I bought E6700ES Stepping5 on last week,for the verification.
It's not bad.
P5W DH
Vcore1.426V 3836.2MHz
Vcore1.500V 3955.6MHz
Can be run pi1M, by air cooling(Cooler is 鎌鉾Z).
But,can't be change the multiplier on BIOS Ver.0701 when E6700 Stepping5.
Also Intel Bad Axe...
Therefore now using the CrystalCPUID and MSR Editor.
The verification of the memory etc. is also troublesome. :D
3955MHz with 1.5v is good. I'm crazy. I sometimes use 1.675v with air cooling. :D
Awesome! 1.675V with air.
However, I am similar in LN2. :D
It doesn't expand in this cooler at all though I want also to raise.;)
Omega-san, did you sell your X6800? I know you weren't happy with the results.
Yes, it has already sold it off.
It is hesitant though X6800 of step6 has been reserved.
Good luck with your E6700ES. :toast: I hope to have a new CPU to play with in a few days. ;)
Many thanks, sierra-sanQuote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Your chips(6600&6700) are very nice.
Waiting for your fine result.:toast:
Seems like 6800 retail not too bad with the right cooling:) http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=108158Quote:
Originally Posted by OMEGA3
Hi, DumoQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Many thanks!!
Yeah, I did read this thread, and it's not bad.
However, step6 with the report first was not good.
It worries. :D
Off-topic :) I'm testing the P5B Deluxe now. Seems okay. Was able to boot up at the speed you see below. Haven't gotten around to testing the limits of the board yet. ;)
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/639/p5b435x9xg1.jpg
damn P5W DH seem nice, i gotta send it to RMA ASAP
:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by roro
BTW, my cpu cap is gone ... lol? am i screwed??
The P5W DH is better for maximum CPU speed, but the P5B is good for memory overclocking.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/6072-3.jpg
wow!!! 600mhz!!!
very nice results at this latency, vmem?Quote:
Originally Posted by theteamaqua
really nice job sierra !!
Thanks to all.:)
2.45v which is BIOS limit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost
Just an update. My P5W DH died awhile back.:( I now have a P5WDG2 WS Pro which I think is an even better board. Unlike the P5W DH, it will run 2:3 ratio very well, but not quite as good as the P5B Deluxe. The result below was done 1:1 and with air cooling.
http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/8246/4103ev7.jpg
http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/060821/40...toltes.hu_.jpg
droop is 0,05-0,006v :(
Nice clocks.:) The voltage droop on the P5WDG2 WS Pro does not appear to be bad. The board also overvolts a bit.
Any pictures of the actual fan setup?
Sierra Bound, I know you had the P5W DH a long time ago and you probably have forgotten but I was wondering what BIOS you used to get to 440+ FSB.
I have a similar setup and I cannot boot past 400 FSB, and it is pretty frustrating :).
I would like to just get my E6600 to 3.8, and I have them temp to do so.
If you feel this is outside of this threads discussion, let me know at the P5W DH Questions + Awnsers thread.
thanks :)
Try 1305, it's been working great for me. Make sure you reapply the TIM on the NB HSF, pretty surprising how much one can gain from this.
See first post.;) I was using 0078.
I had a particularly good board. It did 450+ FSB with stock multiplier and 470 with lower multiplier. No voltage mods. Unfortunately I killed the board after I switched to sub-zero cooling. I should have just stuck to air.
hmm that's weird.
I cant even get past 400 without it looping and looping on a 9x and then I have to clear the CMOS.
Im kinda stumped...
Can you do 400+ with a lower multiplier? Maybe you need to increase NB voltage a little.
With an average air cooling(temp less than 43'C @ 100% stock speed CPU load), what is safe VCore limit for OC-ing an E6400?
OK heres what im running stock a 6 stepping core 2 duo e6600, I want to overclock this but do not what programme to use.
http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ntitledtx8.jpg
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en...-12726884.html
Here the specs m7680 model
Great chip u have there...i just bought one of these; haven't got it yet - if it's anywhere near yours in performance i'd be ova the mooon.Quote:
Originally Posted by OMEGA3
thinking of getting a ninja cooler (or some other monstrous hunk of metal)...but i'll wait to see voltage / heat stuff under my lil xp120
You can't overclock with an HP bios. You probably need a new board, if you need to know how to overclock, you probably shouldn't do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lewiscosworth