MSI 975X Platinum 2.B Results

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Originally Posted by Tyrou

AMAZING §§§ :toast:

Conroe @ 4.25G + 11s Pi :woot:

is the motherboard a better overclocker than the Intel Bad Axe ? Or is this new max frequency chip related ?

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I'D like to know too :D

excellent

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Originally Posted by coolaler

my mobo FSB just can reach 425
and colckgen no support MSI PLL
so I stop now:slobber:

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Next week a new clockgen and then 4500 mhz :D

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Originally Posted by Cranox

Next week a new clockgen and then 4500 mhz :D

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thank Franck (Clockgen author) and WAUS for help:toast:

was that with 1.5v or 1.58v bios setting?

absolutely amazing results. Do any past/current intel boards (regardless of conroe support) have FSB >450?

coolaler ,congrats for the WRs !!!:clap:

Can you play with another memory divider ???

Incredible stuff here :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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sure like to see something other than superpi but most impressive I must say.

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Originally Posted by bri1

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wow you put me in such a powerfull state of aww that i couldent move.

umm

i was wondering i heard that they put the heat sensor in the core or something which confused me but besides that what are the temps on it like and what are temps like?
also will this change the max temperature you can put it at?

clockgen already:banana:

http://www.iamxtreme.net/coolaler/WR/4450_1M.gif

omfg just shat myself

im confusing plz answer my question?

Very nice, no end is sight.

I think all benches will be owned by Intel very soon.

Coolaler, LN2 runnin??

indeed

4.5 Ghz, wow
I had high expectations but i'm still amazed

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Originally Posted by Waus-mod

edit: lol wtf.. is that signature for

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lol at Waus do you know what that means heheheheheh :D

Hehe, yeap :)

I hope he'll disable one core soon, that way he'll get higher clocks, I've recommended him this, but I think he's quite busy with the testin' atm ;)

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Originally Posted by gundamit

SuperPi freaks rejoice. :slobber: Oh ... that 32M ... someone check and see if bachus_anonym still has a pulse. :D

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ROFL...........BA is on a self imposed ban....this is just too much for the big man

*Drools*

http://www.iamxtreme.net/coolaler/WR/4470_1M.gif

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Originally Posted by P-Dub

I hope you dont mind Coolaler, i've nicked that WR Screenshot and bunged it up on my own webspace to host it on a couple of forums...

Does this MSI Board support SLI? Also, since you've been playing with the other board quite a bit and no doubt got the "feel" of the last board, does this one have that same feeling? I know maybe thats not the best thing to say to someone who's first language isnt English, but do you get the impression this board has more to offer?

Keep this coming man, i need my daily Connie feeding...

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All Intel/ATI boards "support" SLI. Only thing that needs to be modified are the SLI drivers. We have already seen this done.

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Originally Posted by coolaler

http://coolaler.kj.idv.tw/WR/4470_1M.gif

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Oh great... approaching 10secs.

http://www.iamxtreme.net/coolaler/WR/4501_1M.gif

Increadible :D

Btw.. That SLI talk, who wants 7900GTX above x1900 SLI ? :p:
3Dmark2003 aint everythin', ya know?

Dam it Coolaler I just fell out of my freaken chair.

http://www.iamxtreme.net/coolaler/WR/WR4.gif

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Congrats on the WRs! :banana: :woot: :banana: :woot: :banana: :woot::banana:

Your on fire!

This is getting beyond insane.

Coolaler: is that an FSB wall I see at 450MHz? You don't seem to be moving up from that.

460mhz FSB ...Beyond Insane Downwrite unbelievable

good. god. Conroe is going to hit 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can not believe this, this is amazing.

OMG. This is so :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing fast!

It seems that the CPU is hitting the limit - or is it in fact the board/FSB?
WHat cooling are you using for the Northbridge?

Outstanding work!

hooollyyy smookkeee all this wuth out changing the stock volts ..damn this really got to be a dreammm....Can we say Conroe is on FFFFIIIRRREEEEEE:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

coolaler,

Fantastic work, AGAIN!!!!!! Thanks for sharing!

when I see stuff like this... I honestly don't even think AMD could possibly do anything to combat this thing...
with Conroes already getting near 5 ghz, and AMD still stuck at the 4 ghz mark... yet conroes are just destroying 4 ghz A64's even at much lower clocks... I can't even guess how a A64 can ever compete with these things... it would take like a 5 ghz A64 to even start...

Intel is just on fire with these things :)

Wow, a 90% overclock on a brand new architecture. LN2 or not, that is still quite a feat. This is equivalent to a 7.2Ghz P4 from a 3.8Ghz stock core, and Netbust was much more mature at that point.

My word, this is getting real crazy now :D

4.5GHz Conroe... Insane indeed :D

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Originally Posted by ethernal

Wow, a 90% overclock on a brand new architecture. LN2 or not, that is still quite a feat. This is equivalent to a 7.2Ghz P4 from a 3.8Ghz stock core, and Netbust was much more mature at that point.

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lol ducks 7.6ghz p4 did 17s...so it's more like a 9-10ghz p4:p:

No doubt that sub-zero amd records will fall to conroe rigs on air.

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Originally Posted by SoulGG

lol ducks 7.6ghz p4 did 17s...so it's more like a 9-10ghz p4:p:

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I meant in terms of overclocking ability. Obviously, performance wise, a Conroe absolutely decimates the P4 in most tasks.

Mind you, Intel is obviously leaving room for future speed bumps, but for a brand new architecture on the earliest revisions/steppings, this is remarkable. Usually the first couple batches of chips on a new architecture are terrible overclockers.

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good. god. Conroe is going to hit 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can not believe this, this is amazing.

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Before it is even released :D And not even XE yet ;)

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Originally Posted by Ron 61

No doubt that sub-zero amd records will fall to conroe rigs on air.

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Very true.

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Originally Posted by ethernal

I meant in terms of overclocking ability. Obviously, performance wise, a Conroe absolutely decimates the P4 in most tasks.

Mind you, Intel is obviously leaving room for future speed bumps, but for a brand new architecture on the earliest revisions/steppings, this is remarkable. Usually the first couple batches of chips on a new architecture are terrible overclockers.

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With the more recent Intel chips, it's not really like that. Conroe has an advantage, becuase Intel used the 65nm process for Presler and Yonah so it's already mature. It would be interesting to see how another stepping would affect that power consumption and scability of Conroe though. With Cloverton being based on Woodcrest, a C0 stepping would help the entire Core family.

I was referring to the architecture, not the process. For Intel, 65nm can now be considered a mature process. The Core architecture, however, is not.

As far as your other examples, they aren't all that great. The Presler was more or less just a die shrink, so the architecture remained the same. Yonah, while a somewhat major architectural upgrade, had a FSB wall (which seemed to be chip-based, not MoBo based, but I could be wrong).

I'm not saying it's a miracle or anything, but it is still quite an achievement to have such early chips do so well when it comes to overclocking potential and associated stability. Computer simulations only tell you so much; how the silcon actually performs with real volts going through it is something else entirely. :)

if you get coolalers result in 1mx3 you get fx-62 stock if you have the best DDR2

OK, I gotta ask: what cooling on the NB and what PLL chip is on that board???? Cab you give me/us the PLL manufacturer/model please? 460FSB is crazy!

VERY awesome coolaler, I've never seen anything like it. I was never a big fan of MSI mobos, but this one looks unstoppable!

iterations where are you? Where's your chart? Add these scores! :banana:

4.5Ghz amazing

Awsome coolaler just awsome! Will we see some 3DMARKS soon? :D

congratulations ! :toast:

:eek: xtreme ideed !!

shifting back to intel then :)

go where the power is !

:toast:

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Originally Posted by The Byter

go where the power is !

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Well said! (man, your 26 are quite bad... look at mine... more than 100 mhz less and with TCCD)

I made a prediction of the S-Pi times:

http://desertshooter.nl/conroepreformance3.png

Thanks to iterations

damn I start to loose words for congratulations and my interest in this new generation of Pi times....great work, amazing, awesome, xtreme, insane...I've said everything at least ones...10s nearly reached...4.6GHZ...woooooooot

< /notworthy

Awesome man, thanks for all the benches and info.

lets see the 10 sec before the end of the year

Unbelievable work there Coolaler :toast:

Now go get those 3Dmark WR's

I don't know if he can break records without real gpu overclocks. But I'd love to see his attempts.

Good luck Coolaler.

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Originally Posted by althes

lets see the 10 sec before the end of the year

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lets see it next week :)

Very impress stuff from MSI. Any idea when the 2.B board will be hitting the streets?

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Originally Posted by DesertShooter

I made a prediction of the S-Pi times:

http://desertshooter.nl/conroepreformance3.png

Thanks to iterations

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NOT quite accurate.........At Coolaler's frequency the 10.xxxs it's easy with the Rams @ Cas 4-2-2-1 - agressive......or even - why not - at Cas 3-2-2-1.......;)

7900gtx single


http://www.iamxtreme.net/coolaler/WR/3d01.gif

3d03

http://www.iamxtreme.net/coolaler/WR/3d03.gif

amazing!
CF screens plz! :)

3d05

http://www.iamxtreme.net/coolaler/WR/3d05.gif

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Originally Posted by Your_Boss

iterations where are you? Where's your chart? Add these scores! :banana:

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You're right, here it is.

EDIT: Thanks DesertShooter, a man's gotta sleep! hehe.

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Originally Posted by hipro5

NOT quite accurate.........At Coolaler's frequency the 10.xxxs it's easy with the Rams @ Cas 4-2-2-1 - agressive......or even - why not - at Cas 3-2-2-1.......;)

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You are right, but it's just a prediction. It could be -+0,5s off

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NOT quite accurate.........At Coolaler's frequency the 10.xxxs it's easy with the Rams @ Cas 4-2-2-1 - agressive......or even - why not - at Cas 3-2-2-1.......

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RAM timings and speed has very little effect on 1M time with Conroe. You need to run 2M or larger to see the difference.

Amazing clocks and performance, congrats! :toast:
now lets see what it can do with TWO cards? :)

1 card... he is teasing us now :D

Dont even want to imagine what 3D 01 is going to be with 2 cards even on air :cool:

Please bench with Crossfire.

Added in future predictions based on conservative and aggressive trending.

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Originally Posted by macci

now lets see what it can do with TWO cards? :)

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definately something to see :)

http://www.iamxtreme.net/coolaler/WR/4510_1M.gif

Hehe my make my pee-pee hard ;)

Congrat's :toast:

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Originally Posted by althes

lets see the 10 sec before the end of the year

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Perhaps only 2 days +/- when FCG takes the wraps off his shiny new XE

Yea, we are talking days till sub 10sec.

Who knows this Conroe of coolaler's could go a little more. Nothing seems to beyond him atm :D

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Originally Posted by macci

RAM timings and speed has very little effect on 1M time with Conroe. You need to run 2M or larger to see the difference.

Amazing clocks and performance, congrats! :toast:
now lets see what it can do with TWO cards? :)

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Hmm, I'd imagine a divider higher will be possible... CPU:RAM 2:3.... 676,5mhz ram, hmm, maybee "a bit" to high even for 5-x-x-x, but... 4:5, 563,75mhz 4-4-4-4, dont you think that would gain quite a bit?

http://www.iamxtreme.net/coolaler/WR/4520_1M.gif

come on... show us the 10sec ;) we know you already have it :toast:

congrats!

Gett some X1900XT Crossfire and show us some ORB ownage !

Absolutely insane coolaler. Do you think the mobo is hitting an FSB wall, or the memory? Your last few FSB bumps seem to be all about tweaking the timings.

Not bad.

http://www.iamxtreme.net/coolaler/WR/4530_1M.gif

10s or nothing :D

4:5 divider c00laler :D

xtrem for sure!

HA, HA, HA......Coolaler you're crazy dude........:D :toast:

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Originally Posted by hipro5

HA, HA, HA......Coolaler you're crazy dude........:D :toast:

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Are you gonna buy a conroe or what ? :fact:

single 7900GTX for 63K at 2k1, what can happend with CF?

:eek: :eek: :eek: 452fsb!!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

:eek: :eek: :eek: cpu@4530mhz:eek: :eek: :eek:

impressive

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Originally Posted by stalker170

:eek: :eek: :eek: 452fsb!!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

:eek: :eek: :eek: cpu@4530mhz:eek: :eek: :eek:

impressive

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Yeah.

People am I totally crazy or what? 2 cores active @4530 Mhz? :eek:

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Originally Posted by Punisher!

People am I totally crazy or what? 2 cores active @4530 Mhz? :eek:

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you are not crazy, 2 core is active:D :D

è proprio questa la cosa + incredibile che i due core siano attivi a 4530mhz.....

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Originally Posted by Torin

Absolutely insane coolaler. Do you think the mobo is hitting an FSB wall, or the memory? Your last few FSB bumps seem to be all about tweaking the timings.

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NO, He's just helping us fill out the SPi chart completely. :D

I'd like to see reviews of all the games that have(or thought to have) a CPU bottleneck. See what the % improvement is. :clap:

Hehehe... Hes doing a great job keeping us wondering.

New WR every couple of hours :D

damn it!!!

how high could a XE go then??

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Originally Posted by metro.cl

damn it!!!

how high could a XE go then??

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In my point of view 5.8 Giga hertz is the maximum not more than double stated.

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Originally Posted by M.Beier

Hmm, I'd imagine a divider higher will be possible... CPU:RAM 2:3.... 676,5mhz ram, hmm, maybee "a bit" to high even for 5-x-x-x, but... 4:5, 563,75mhz 4-4-4-4, dont you think that would gain quite a bit?

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Sure you can run the memory faster and with lower timings but it wont give much gain for 1M w/ Conroe.
I'll give you an example: using a 2.4GHz CPU speed and upping the fsb/memory from 9x266/266 3-2-2 to 7x343/428 4-3-2 improves the 1M time from 21.234 to 20.953 (343/343 3-2-2 gives the same 20.953 too btw). Thats around 1%..