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12-27-2007, 09:28 AM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin77

Hi!

I bought the Maximus Formula SE and fired it up with a C2D 6850.
So here are my problems I've:

- I can only leave the Vcore setting on auto (or set it manually to a value 1,325 or less). All values above will lead to no boot. The auto value sets it to 1,325 (BIOS and CPUZ show this value)

- My NB temp is even idle at around 57 C and at full load even around 65C+.

I use default coolings (no watercooling installed) on NB. I've no problem with CPU temp. I use the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme with a Scythe S-FLEX 1200, 120x120x25mm cooler. I also use 2 casecoolers (both 120 mm) and only top quality components (Enermax Infinity 650 Power supply, Corsair RAM, ...).

Concerned with my NB temp I searched Intel page for X38 specs. The official Intel NB max temp is over 90 C, so my temp is fine and I've no probs with stability (ran all kinds of tests over 48 hours with CPU overclocked 435x8 setting)
So I wonder how u guys get NB temps about 45 C loaded and all talk about unstability with temps over 50 C. T%his isn't true, as my example and official Intel document proves.

Even without OCing my NB temp is in Idle far above 50C, and this in a well cooled room and 100% stable running....
someone confirms this NB temps and also have this strange behavier with only auto set vcore working?

I had high NB temps untill I reseated the fuzion block with AS5, its really worth the time.
On full load (and my room is rather warm 25 celcius) my NB hits 45 celcius max.
There were claims made that above 47 you COULD experience instability at high FSB
12-27-2007, 10:37 AM
Eastcoasthandle

GUYS please report your experiences with this motherboard at newegg's customer review.
Click here to write your review once you have logged in.

We need more experienced users providing good feedback about this motherboard. Thanks :up:
12-27-2007, 10:55 AM
FZ1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

We need more experienced users providing good feedback about this motherboard. Thanks :up:

Done!
12-27-2007, 11:25 AM
ShawnTRD

NEXT BIOS??

What do you think need to be addressed of the next BIOS Update?
12-27-2007, 11:50 AM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShawnTRD

NEXT BIOS??

What do you think need to be addressed of the next BIOS Update?

1.Sketchy dividers
2.Temps
3.Over volting

Thats my :2cents:
12-27-2007, 12:45 PM
binormalkilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

1.Sketchy dividers
2.Temps
3.Over volting

Thats my :2cents:

Yea you can say that again....we need dividers that work over 400 FSB because my memory bandwidth is severely suffering running at DDR2-850......
12-27-2007, 01:04 PM
FZ1

Quote:

Originally Posted by binormalkilla

Yea you can say that again....we need dividers that work over 400 FSB because my memory bandwidth is severely suffering running at DDR2-850......

Bandwidth isn't everything...tighter timings are sometimes better. However, THIS MAY HELP!
12-27-2007, 03:02 PM
ElEctric_EyE

Quote:

Originally Posted by eSp!s0

Coretemps are the same like with Bios 0903 aren`t they!? Only cpu(overall) temp is much too low with 0907!

Or are there any guys, who have other core temps than with bios 0903? I have only seen too low cpu overall temp.

That's exactly what I was trying to say... CPUtemp is way low, when you compare to the other 4 cores, which obviously makes no sense.
12-27-2007, 03:25 PM
JoeBar

Received my 2nd Maximus SE (first one had dead mem slots) and after a week of testing and oc'ing it, all i can say that it really deserves the asus name.

Haven't had a single prob for a week now and it's behavior while oc'ing is top notch. Highly recommended... :up:

Right now running on 802 bios, for specs see sig.
12-27-2007, 03:39 PM
Viss

Chip isnt that strong max fsb around 450 with 8.5 multi. Mem is overclocking fine with 4x1024, vdimm 2.28v real because of the Cellshocks. Just starting with the cards but like them a lot. Game OS for now:

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12-27-2007, 03:44 PM
MonkY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin77

Hi!

I bought the Maximus Formula SE and fired it up with a C2D 6850.
So here are my problems I've:

- I can only leave the Vcore setting on auto (or set it manually to a value 1,325 or less). All values above will lead to no boot. The auto value sets it to 1,325 (BIOS and CPUZ show this value)

- My NB temp is even idle at around 57 C and at full load even around 65C+.

I use default coolings (no watercooling installed) on NB. I've no problem with CPU temp. I use the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme with a Scythe S-FLEX 1200, 120x120x25mm cooler. I also use 2 casecoolers (both 120 mm) and only top quality components (Enermax Infinity 650 Power supply, Corsair RAM, ...).

Concerned with my NB temp I searched Intel page for X38 specs. The official Intel NB max temp is over 90 C, so my temp is fine and I've no probs with stability (ran all kinds of tests over 48 hours with CPU overclocked 435x8 setting)
So I wonder how u guys get NB temps about 45 C loaded and all talk about unstability with temps over 50 C. T%his isn't true, as my example and official Intel document proves.

Even without OCing my NB temp is in Idle far above 50C, and this in a well cooled room and 100% stable running....
someone confirms this NB temps and also have this strange behavier with only auto set vcore working?

You have almost the same problem i did. It seems Auto is overvolting CPU/NB/etc.. specially when using an E6850. After setting them manually and setting up an 120mm fan to blow over NB and memory, i managed to get down arround 10 degrees Celsius, stable in Prime/Orthos. I'll post my settings later (not at home right now), maybe they help you with your E6850. Btw, i use now 0903 bios as the last one 0907 listed some very strange temperature readings on my E6850 (like 7-10 degrees Celsius even in Full Load). Take care !
12-27-2007, 10:10 PM
Zeussa

Jeezuz, what a thread,.. matyrs, heros, masochists...lol, this thing at stock with bios 401 was bad, unstable graphics, hardware all wrong settings. These pages give me signs of a Holy Grail.

NOW THIS... yes, a kranky, delicate beast, obviously needs whipping into shape. I read most of this and done some whipping, now i believe in the common quest: Cranked Control.

Flashed from usb to bios 907, tried to set things manualy and had a failed OC.

So, set CPU Level Up to 6850, then RAM timings 5.5.5.15 2T, booted into a red DRAM 2.29v ....Ai OC Tuner to Manual, bios reset DRAM to 2.18 and got 2.06... wouldn't mind to get this ram speed optimal sometime. tried to set RAM in bios to 1066 and came back with like 800?

If i could get it up to 3.4GHz and get it sitting stable like it is at the moment... that will be just groovee. Also noticed with Everest and CPU-Z that the CPU backs down to 2003MHz 6x when idling.? Test it in Crysis and COD4 later today... yaay.

But hey... it seems orite pumping at:

CPU 3005.5MHz @ 1.344v
FSB 344 9x
DRAM 400.7
Ratio 12:10
DRAM 2.06v
DRAM REF 1.04v

Happy with the temps...

CPU 39C at sustained 35% load, 29C idle, 47C CPU Queen benchmark 21488...on air, Zalman CNPS9700NT 1360 rpm
NB 45C " " 45C idle

Noticed that PC Probe craps its readings when CPU-Z is opened, must be a conflict in Vista 64.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a211/Zeussa/mem.jpg http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a211/Zeussa/CPU.jpg http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...memadj1812.jpg
12-27-2007, 10:26 PM
binormalkilla

So what kind of voltage are you guys running on your Q6600 G0s? I have this running for 3.8...........can't get 475x8 completely stable yet. OCCT craps out at 8 minutes or so. I really want 475 stable so my memory can run faster.....DDR2-846 4-4-4-12 isn't fast :p
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12-27-2007, 10:53 PM
Robin77

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonkY

You have almost the same problem i did. It seems Auto is overvolting CPU/NB/etc.. specially when using an E6850. After setting them manually and setting up an 120mm fan to blow over NB and memory, i managed to get down arround 10 degrees Celsius, stable in Prime/Orthos. I'll post my settings later (not at home right now), maybe they help you with your E6850. Btw, i use now 0903 bios as the last one 0907 listed some very strange temperature readings on my E6850 (like 7-10 degrees Celsius even in Full Load). Take care !

I startet with the non beta version 8 BIOS (think 8.0.4 without looking), then I changed to 9.0.3 and now I run 9.0.7. I can confirm strange temp values, should be fixed with next official release.
I also had problems wirh all BIOS versions with multiple initial boots till boot went through to windows or even no boot staying at a black screen (fans running). The LCD showed there always detecting RAM, so I tryed to manually raise dram voltage. This helped (also tryed before to change RAM slots, but no change) and since this I have no problems with booting.

As you say it seems like auto settings overvoltage alot on this MB. The problem is to find the right default values, cause official Intel X38 Chipsetdocument specifies a big voltage range for NB and I really don't want to run 1000 prime tests to find the ideal value for all voltage settings...

All that said I have expected a bit more overclocking success with this MB thinking of it's price. But seems like my CPU can't get higher than 3500 MHz prime around the clock stable. I tried this with all possible values for FSB high/multi low and other way around and many voltage settings. RAM was never the limiting factor. Also disappointing that no vcore above 1,325 works, even if intel specifies it to 1,5v max...
12-28-2007, 10:14 AM
MonkY

2 Attachment(s)

Robin77: these are my settings (PCIE/MEM Spread Spectrum Disabled, and all CPU options Disabled). Sorry for the pics, but i was lazy to note them down (some guy said there is a tool to save the settings in bios, but i can't read the file it's creating. maybe some other tool is needed to open it).
They are for CPU running at 3.6Ghz and memory at 1200Mhz (but you can easely setup the memory at 1066Mhz or 800Mhz if you need them lower). Good luck !
12-28-2007, 03:25 PM
jorgito05

Hi all !

[IMG][/IMG]Can't get Al Suit II or 3D mark to work after bios 0907, also fsb strap is this a multiplyer ???

Want to light OC to 1600 FSB and get my DDR2 800 to run 1:1, what do I set at what? I can poot together a nice system, but don't know Jack about OC.

Help me don't wan't to kill my board or Mem. :shrug: :wierd:
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12-28-2007, 03:51 PM
FZ1

For those still looking for the SE version and/or know someone who is...
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1257269

NOTE: This is not my sale and I don't know the seller. Just passing along what I have found...
12-28-2007, 04:15 PM
Jodiuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warboy

There is No Uninstaller program for the EPU, There are uninstallers for AI Suite, Probe II, and ASUS Updater

I'm looking through devmgr now, but does anyone know if I disable it, will it force 8phase or 4...or am I off?
12-28-2007, 04:32 PM
jorgito05

Photo test

trying to see how it works
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12-28-2007, 04:36 PM
jorgito05

try again

try diferent way
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12-28-2007, 04:51 PM
jorgito05

one more time

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12-28-2007, 04:57 PM
Hockster

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgito05

http://http://i272.photobucket.com/a...omputer136.jpg

When using the WYSIWSG editor remove the http:// from the link box.

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12-28-2007, 04:58 PM
jorgito05

http://http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...omputer136.jpg
12-28-2007, 05:02 PM
jorgito05

Thank's

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockster

When using the WYSIWSG editor remove the http:// from the link box.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...omputer136.jpg

I need all the help I can get, never worked with URL's before so I have been experimenting. Thank you, Hope I'm not being a pain in the Behind.
12-28-2007, 05:07 PM
jorgito05

onother

I'll try again with one more and then thats it. Also if anyone can help how do I list my coponents on the left under the avtar. How do I isert text there like others do.
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