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06-10-2005, 06:44 PM
trance565

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Originally Posted by bypolar

Notice the AMD is on a Gigabyte board. What they needed to do is use boards from the same manufactor that retail in the same price catagory.

it is Pretty much useless to compare with such a variance in Platform hardware.

same board, same memory, same power supply same heatsink same Video one AMD proc one Intel.

well, u cant use the same memory due to teh fact amd uses ddr and intel uses ddr2, so rule that out, intel apparently cant use nforce, tho now i think they figured out it wasnt the chipset that was the prolem, im sure that if they used the "correct" heatsink, it would work on the nforce board, with sli, heatsink, well they used the one provided, to provide "stock" performance charts, so really, the only thing u could use the same would be, psu, mobo, and video, unless u wanted to use xp 120 hs&fans insted, but stock heatsink should suffice for the tests since no overclocking is involved
06-10-2005, 06:46 PM
trance565

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Originally Posted by pha|anx

could anoyne sum up for anyone who sees this thread, what exactly has happened? since the lying Tom Pabst has attempted to cover up the truth, only this thread and others like it on other forums serve as accurate records of the history behind the 'stress test'. could someone please sum up the problems that each system ran into? what we know so far:

the Intel setup chewed 5 Asus P5ND2-SLI Deluxe's...

amd: no problems whatsoever, cept for some kina kink with windows making dvd encoding last on the list, utterly last, oh ya, and change of gfx cards due to intel

intel: wrong hsf... apparently, 5+ mobos gone, 1 or 2 psu's, change in hs&f, change in graphics cards

mmmmmm thats all i can think of,
06-10-2005, 07:32 PM
ahmad

For this to be a fair comparison, they need to run both systems outdoors in Antartica. Maybe then we can see how the intel performs :)

Or we could all just point at Intels 120W processors and laugh :rotf:
06-10-2005, 08:06 PM
pha|anx

Quote:

Originally Posted by trance565

amd: no problems whatsoever, cept for some kina kink with windows making dvd encoding last on the list, utterly last, oh ya, and change of gfx cards due to intel

intel: wrong hsf... apparently, 5+ mobos gone, 1 or 2 psu's, change in hs&f, change in graphics cards

mmmmmm thats all i can think of,

thanks!

Quote:

For this to be a fair comparison, they need to run both systems outdoors in Antartica. Maybe then we can see how the intel performs

Or we could all just point at Intels 120W processors and laugh

lol hey Ahmad :bounces:
06-10-2005, 08:11 PM
perkam

Hmmm..phalanx nice sig.

Though the actual thermal guideline is 130W, a tad higher, and thus more ridiculous. I dont know why they dont compare it against an overclocked P4...considering based on PCMARK04 score ratios...a 2.4ghz AMD Dual Core is about the same cpu power as a 3.6ghz Intel dual core cpu....Makes sense too.

When they're prices normalize down the road, a 2.4ghz processor (such as the 3800+/3700+ today) is compared with a 560 or a 570 Intel processor.

Perkam
06-11-2005, 04:35 AM
Gorgeous

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahmad

For this to be a fair comparison, they need to run both systems outdoors in Antartica. Maybe then we can see how the intel performs :)

Or we could all just point at Intels 120W processors and laugh :rotf:

I prefer not to drown when the intels melt all the ice....so why dont we just leave the test in germany
06-11-2005, 05:41 AM
setyotomo

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Originally Posted by Hans.Gruber

LIARS !! What a bunch of *¤*%**&** !!

AMD has been running from day 1 without any problems !!

I never tought that Intel would help from THG idiots.. Well, live and learn.. ;)

i got this screen a while ago, maybe useful for archive... ( taken 6/9/2005 )

:fact:
06-11-2005, 06:24 AM
Hans.Gruber

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Originally Posted by setyotomo

i got this screen a while ago, maybe useful for archive... ( taken 6/9/2005 )

:fact:

I don't understand ?

(i also edited that post which you quoted, i added "would need help from")
06-11-2005, 08:19 AM
ahmad

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Originally Posted by Gorgeous

I prefer not to drown when the intels melt all the ice....so why dont we just leave the test in germany

haha good point.

:flame:
06-11-2005, 08:38 AM
saaya

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Originally Posted by OC Detective

Saaya I have kept some screenshots (on work computer ) of when I posted about the big jump in AMD figures except for the drop in AMD FPS on farcry (around 10am CET I think).

i have captured screenshots every hour for 6 hours in a row yesterday night and a few hours in a row this mid day :D imma post the results later, its hilarious! the fps of the intel system is jumping up and down, they seem to change the priorities every few hours or so...

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Originally Posted by pha|anx

could anoyne sum up for anyone who sees this thread, what exactly has happened? since the lying Tom Pabst has attempted to cover up the truth, only this thread and others like it on other forums serve as accurate records of the history behind the 'stress test'. could someone please sum up the problems that each system ran into? what we know so far:

the Intel setup chewed 5 Asus P5ND2-SLI Deluxe's...

here you go :)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=65291

and welcome to XtremeSystems btw :toast:

Quote:

Originally Posted by bypolar

Notice the AMD is on a Gigabyte board. What they needed to do is use boards from the same manufactor that retail in the same price catagory.

it is Pretty much useless to compare with such a variance in Platform hardware.

same board, same memory, same power supply same heatsink same Video one AMD proc one Intel.

did you read this thread or the thread i made summing up the details or the thg article? they DID use idencital pats, as identical as possible, but the intel parts kept dieing... well i think thg killed it beeing the experts they are famous for beeing :D
welcome to XtremeSystems ahmad :toast:
06-11-2005, 01:15 PM
trance565

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Originally Posted by Hans.Gruber

I don't understand ?

(i also edited that post which you quoted, i added "would need help from")

basically, its showing, amd system up for 90+ hours like it originaly was, and intel crashes, was high, and then thg says, both systems have been running flawlessly, cept, it hasnt, and thats proof
06-11-2005, 01:22 PM
Hans.Gruber

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Originally Posted by trance565

basically, its showing, amd system up for 90+ hours like it originaly was, and intel crashes, was high, and then thg says, both systems have been running flawlessly, cept, it hasnt, and thats proof

How there is only 1 boot in the counter if it's 9th day ? :confused:

Also AMD uptime doesn't match, it's too much for 9th day..

Another thing, there is no date visible in that picture. :(
06-12-2005, 07:38 AM
saaya

they dont give any details at all on how the meassure everything, that way they can change their measurement methods to adjust the outcome of the test to be what they want it to be... just lame :rolleyes:
06-12-2005, 10:18 AM
CNCL

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Originally Posted by saaya

they dont give any details at all on how the meassure everything, that way they can change their measurement methods to adjust the outcome of the test to be what they want it to be... just lame :rolleyes:

Yeah, exactly
06-12-2005, 11:08 AM
trance565

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Originally Posted by Hans.Gruber

How there is only 1 boot in the counter if it's 9th day ? :confused:

Also AMD uptime doesn't match, it's too much for 9th day..

Another thing, there is no date visible in that picture. :(

90 hours, ... taht would be the fourth day ...

and the one boot for intel, tahts thg changing tyheir numbers, it was at 4, then it crashed, and they changed sumthing, and restet the counter, it's really retarded, but none the less that wasthe 4th day
06-12-2005, 11:58 AM
Hans.Gruber

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Originally Posted by trance565

90 hours, ... taht would be the fourth day ...

I mean 9th of June 2005, NOT 9th day of the test.. :)
06-12-2005, 01:41 PM
ahmad

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Originally Posted by saaya

welcome to XtremeSystems ahmad :toast:

Thank you saaya :)
06-12-2005, 02:24 PM
kiwi

heh, nice test.

Maybe Intel should replace its boxed cooler with a vapo? :D
06-12-2005, 02:32 PM
CNCL

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Originally Posted by kiwi

heh, nice test.

Maybe Intel should replace its boxed cooler with a vapo? :D

Good idea though that probably still won't change AMD as the process of choice :p:
06-12-2005, 02:40 PM
swami

:fact: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23883 :fact:
06-12-2005, 03:13 PM
pha|anx

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Originally Posted by swami

:fact: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23883 :fact:

someone should email them and link them to this thread, and saaya's summary thread of this thread... lol

:yepp:
06-12-2005, 08:26 PM
Hans.Gruber

Wrong cooler for X2.

I wonder are THG dummies trying to fry X2 with a wrong cooler ?

I had a pic of X2 boxed cooler here, but i was wrong pic, so Here is X2 4800 boxed cooler

X2 cooler at tomshardware..
http://koti.welho.com/pnystro2/somepics/cooling3.jpg

I wonder what they are thinking cos they fried several Intel MB's, but AMD keeps on running with a sempron cooler.. :rofl:

ps. this wasn't my find, but i don't remember who it was..
(probably mentioned in this thread).
06-12-2005, 08:49 PM
trance565

for sum reason, i wouldnt be surprised, but ... how did they get that camera angle? isnt the camera stationary?
06-12-2005, 08:50 PM
dippyskoodlez

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Originally Posted by Hans.Gruber

I wonder are THG dummies trying to fry X2 with a wrong cooler ?

XE840 and X2 4800 coolers.
[im]http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32388&stc=1[/img]

X2 cooler at tomshardware..
[im]http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32389&stc=1[/img]

I wonder what they are thinking cos they fried several Intel MB's, but AMD keeps on running with a sempron cooler.. :rofl:

ps. this wasn't my find, but i don't remember who it was..
(probably mentioned in this thread).

edit: Im not sure if that first pic actually is X2 cooler, but boxed is identical to that and also has those heatpipes.

haha. wow.
:toast:

makes it look even better.
06-12-2005, 08:59 PM
Lithan

Thg has been Pwn'ed.

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