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09-22-2008, 06:20 AM
Vazovskiiii

1307 is awwsome thank's ketz it's beautifull a have 250 more points in read 600 in copy 300 in write nowi will try it in overclocking :) beautifull
09-22-2008, 06:50 AM
axy1985

Well, took the plunge and flashed the 1306m R2 for the P5Q-E. No problems so far, will test later on.
Oh... and no boot logo here either lol.
09-22-2008, 06:57 AM
truehighroller

They fixed it,,,,,, WOOOOOOT.................... Apparently I was right sorta.. The new revisions didn't cooperate with the Q9450s as they should and mine just got fedup with it but, the problem is I am at work right now and can't reach my PC to try it out yet. I uploaded it here for everyone.. Cheers. Ket you can mod it while I'm at work or even see what they cought that was screwing it up maybe if you want. I asked the tech to ask them what is was exactly but he said he might not get an answer but, it deffinately had to do with my CPU he said.

P.S.: It is 1403 BIOS.
09-22-2008, 09:57 AM
Dee

Quote:

Originally Posted by axy1985

Well, took the plunge and flashed the 1306m R2 for the P5Q-E. No problems so far, will test later on.
Oh... and no boot logo here either lol.

Axy! See PM's. ;)
09-22-2008, 01:06 PM
Ket

Investigating 1403 now. Truehighroller, did you happen to ask if they will be including the fix for other P5Q models as well?
09-22-2008, 01:07 PM
truehighroller

Well I just tried it and it didn't fix it. :(

Edit: did you ever watch my video?
09-22-2008, 03:24 PM
Ket

Nope it never worrked right for me always taking ages :\
09-22-2008, 03:29 PM
Ket

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SPiTFiREgr

Do you mean that you have tested OCZ kits with the P5Q PRO and there is a limiting factor somewhere else but the sticks themselves? When you say 5 ram kits you mean five OCZ2N1066SR1G kits?:eek:

I'm currently running those OCZ2N1066SR1G at 1154Mhz with 360FSB (5:8 ratio) and they are stable. But as i said raising the fsb (and as a result, memory write bandwidth) there is instability with blend stress (large fft).. Do you mean the same?

If high memory write bandwidth is the cause of the instability with certain memory modules then the only thing i can think of as the cause of the problem is inappropriate timing settings set by the motherboard (because there are some timing options that cant be set by the bios. even with manual selected ofcourse).

This is a customised spd data file for those OCZ2N1066SR1G. As your probably aware spdtool is absolutely bloody useless on P45 boards currently :down::down: However you can use spdtool on just about any other platform. Let me know if the modules play nice :up:
09-22-2008, 03:59 PM
oMek

my new pq5-e from newegg is a rev A3 on the north.

so far all bios work fine for me on loadline. without it i get massive vdrop/droop. with it on.. it over volts alittle on load.
09-22-2008, 04:31 PM
Ket

I wonder what changes were made... wish asus would tell people stuff like that. Usually hardware revisions fix or improve things quite noticably.
09-22-2008, 05:02 PM
truehighroller

Well I am packing that video for you so you can actually just download it instead of trying to stream it. What ftp program are you using?
09-22-2008, 05:05 PM
oMek

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

I wonder what changes were made... wish asus would tell people stuff like that. Usually hardware revisions fix or improve things quite noticably.

no idea what changed, it came with the 1201 bios stock, and so far the 14xx version is the most stable for me.

and this thing runs like 10-15C cooler than my old p35. im lovein it.
09-22-2008, 05:50 PM
Ket

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehighroller

Well I am packing that video for you so you can actually just download it instead of trying to stream it. What ftp program are you using?

I use FTP Surfer

Quote:

Originally Posted by oMek

no idea what changed, it came with the 1201 bios stock, and so far the 14xx version is the most stable for me.

and this thing runs like 10-15C cooler than my old p35. im lovein it.

Keep us posted :up:
09-23-2008, 03:18 AM
truehighroller

Ok try this Ket,

I tried it and it didn't work with the link,,

I put it on the server though. Do you still have the server info? You can jump on the server and download the .rar version.
09-23-2008, 04:51 AM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

This is a customised spd data file for those OCZ2N1066SR1G. As your probably aware spdtool is absolutely bloody useless on P45 boards currently :down::down: However you can use spdtool on just about any other platform. Let me know if the modules play nice :up:

Ket please drop me a PM with a changelog for this file if you can. Also please come thru me if you find a bug in SPD, im open to all help but I like to keep customers warranty in tact.
09-23-2008, 05:48 AM
Vazovskiiii

1307 is beautifull :) thank you very much :)
waiting for 1403 best as allways :)
maximus 2 formula is p45 chipset yes? is it possible to insert in bios same overclocking features as maximus on p5q non pro? and memory table of course like in 1307 :) this is beautiful i hope that soon it will be possible to crossflashing p5Q non pro on maximus 2 formula :)
09-23-2008, 11:12 AM
Ket

Tony, I'll try to drop you a PM in a day or two, if you haven't got a PM in a few days just remind me I'm pretty busy atm.

Vazovskiiii, What your asking can be done, but would likely require a lot of work and BIOS re-programming on top of careful cross-referencing. For these reasons there won't be a "incredible hulk" BIOS for the P5Q series, I don't have the time, nor do I possess all the tools Asus use. Of course, if a company were to pay me *cough* Asus *cough*, then it could be a different story.
09-23-2008, 12:30 PM
SPiTFiREgr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

This is a customised spd data file for those OCZ2N1066SR1G. As your probably aware spdtool is absolutely bloody useless on P45 boards currently :down::down: However you can use spdtool on just about any other platform. Let me know if the modules play nice :up:

Woot ! When you say customized you also mean optimized timings or rated timings from OCZ?

Sadly i dont have any other platform to test them so... i'm waiting for an update of spdtool to recognize P45. I hope configuring timings from SPD bytes will fix stability problems.. Does EPP contains more settings than SPD? Or it's just a marketing renamed SPD?
09-23-2008, 03:11 PM
Ket

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPiTFiREgr

Woot ! When you say customized you also mean optimized timings or rated timings from OCZ?

Sadly i dont have any other platform to test them so... i'm waiting for an update of spdtool to recognize P45. I hope configuring timings from SPD bytes will fix stability problems.. Does EPP contains more settings than SPD? Or it's just a marketing renamed SPD?

EPP is a laughable gimmick. About half of the speed data has been reconfigured. Heres a quick rundown of changes;

- Added 800MHz frequency to speed data
- 2nd speed profile is 533MHz, 3rd speed profile is 400MHz
- Auto Timings @ 800MHz = 5-5-5-18-42-42-4-8-4-4
- Auto Timings @ 533MHz = 4-4-4-12-28-28-3-6-3-3
- Auto Timings @ 400MHz = 3-3-3-9-21-21-2-4-2-2

Now, the more technical stuff.

- CLX-1 @ 533 is 0.50ns
- CLX-2 @ 400 is 0.50ns

TRP = 12.50ns, TRRD = 10.00ns, TRCD = 12.50ns, TRAS = 45ns, TWR = 19.00ns, TRTP = 10.00ns, TRC = 105ns, TRFC = 105ns.

Naturally, I have tested this speed file myself on my OCZ2N1066SR1G kit, all works perfectly. These timings offer an extremely good balance between performance and compatibility. EPP profiles have been left unchanged. Test platforms have been Asus Crosshair, Asus M2N-SLi, and Asus P5Q Pro.
09-23-2008, 04:45 PM
SPiTFiREgr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

EPP is a laughable gimmick. About half of the speed data has been reconfigured. Heres a quick rundown of changes;

- Added 800MHz frequency to speed data
- 2nd speed profile is 533MHz, 3rd speed profile is 400MHz
- Auto Timings @ 800MHz = 5-5-5-18-42-42-4-8-4-4
- Auto Timings @ 533MHz = 4-4-4-12-28-28-3-6-3-3
- Auto Timings @ 400MHz = 3-3-3-9-21-21-2-4-2-2

Now, the more technical stuff.

- CLX-1 @ 533 is 0.50ns
- CLX-2 @ 400 is 0.50ns

TRP = 12.50ns, TRRD = 10.00ns, TRCD = 12.50ns, TRAS = 45ns, TWR = 19.00ns, TRTP = 10.00ns, TRC = 105ns, TRFC = 105ns.

Naturally, I have tested this speed file myself on my OCZ2N1066SR1G kit, all works perfectly. These timings offer an extremely good balance between performance and compatibility. EPP profiles have been left unchanged. Test platforms have been Asus Crosshair, Asus M2N-SLi, and Asus P5Q Pro.

[strike]4-4-4-12 for 533? Isn't that tight? and 800? zomg you mean 1600ddr?[/strike]

EDIT: Got my answer from spdtool 'timing summary' myself :p
09-23-2008, 11:01 PM
Vazovskiiii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

Tony, I'll try to drop you a PM in a day or two, if you haven't got a PM in a few days just remind me I'm pretty busy atm.

Vazovskiiii, What your asking can be done, but would likely require a lot of work and BIOS re-programming on top of careful cross-referencing. For these reasons there won't be a "incredible hulk" BIOS for the P5Q series, I don't have the time, nor do I possess all the tools Asus use. Of course, if a company were to pay me *cough* Asus *cough*, then it could be a different story.

ya i'm sure that it can be done aspecially if you would like :) you are the best :)
but i'm sure when you will have time plz do this for xtreem guys :)
09-24-2008, 04:45 AM
Ket

I give effective frequencies not "halves".
09-24-2008, 04:49 AM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

EPP is a laughable gimmick. About half of the speed data has been reconfigured. Heres a quick rundown of changes;

- Added 800MHz frequency to speed data
- 2nd speed profile is 533MHz, 3rd speed profile is 400MHz
- Auto Timings @ 800MHz = 5-5-5-18-42-42-4-8-4-4
- Auto Timings @ 533MHz = 4-4-4-12-28-28-3-6-3-3
- Auto Timings @ 400MHz = 3-3-3-9-21-21-2-4-2-2

Now, the more technical stuff.

- CLX-1 @ 533 is 0.50ns
- CLX-2 @ 400 is 0.50ns

TRP = 12.50ns, TRRD = 10.00ns, TRCD = 12.50ns, TRAS = 45ns, TWR = 19.00ns, TRTP = 10.00ns, TRC = 105ns, TRFC = 105ns.

Naturally, I have tested this speed file myself on my OCZ2N1066SR1G kit, all works perfectly. These timings offer an extremely good balance between performance and compatibility. EPP profiles have been left unchanged. Test platforms have been Asus Crosshair, Asus M2N-SLi, and Asus P5Q Pro.

Why have you got TRC set so high?

TRC = TRP +TRAS...you have almost double this
09-24-2008, 08:33 AM
Ket

Because intel chipsets need a higher TRC vs. AMD chipsets for maximum compatibility, stability and for OCing. Not all boards offer the TRC value in their BIOS (such as the P5Q series) thats why I set it higher. Its RAM 101, surprised you wern't aware of this :eek:
09-25-2008, 08:14 AM
Ket

Here is a (and possibly eagerly awaited) modded version of BIOS 1403 for the P5Q Deluxe. No updates for any other boards as Asus haven't released any, I keep checking various FTPs and a few other places, nada. Perhaps truehighroller can ask Asus when the other P5Q boards will get the updates the Deluxe has. (hint hint, nudge nudge :p: )

P5Q Dlx mBIOS 1403

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