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PCIE voltage? Don't have a clue, As far as I knew only AGP could get a voltage bump, my DFI nF4 has no such option.
I know what you mean about being scared to raise volts. I am too, especially since I only noticed the little black squares from raising volts. Did those little black squares show up on default clocks, cooling and volts or did they only show up from using the voltage utility?
No thats where you can read the REAL voltages thats going through the card.Quote:
Originally Posted by spajdr
Ya I get that error sometimes too, thats stating basically raising the voltage. Try upping the voltage on the mem and i/o to 1.95. If that doesn't work try dropping the mem clocks to say 600 for starters. I know mine ram scales very nicely with vcore raises, but some others have to really up the voltage (2.2V) to actually get to 750 sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom2110
cantankerous
http://www.pretaktovanie.sk/obr/dosk...a_LP_BIOS7.jpg
http://www.pretaktovanie.sk/obr/dosk...a_LP_BIOS7.jpg
What about that LDT Voltage Control, isnt that about PCIE, i thought it is, but if not, then someone correct me :)
LDT is the hyper transport.
so i have tested all.
i checked the voltages at the card. that are good. when i use 1,4V then i have 1,36v at the card.
It makes no different when i use 1,25v or 1,35v, the result is the same.
i can´t bench 3d mark05 with 600/600.
i become an error but other error when i would play HL2 or css test.
i think that can´t be right that the card didn´t clock good.
a gpu v core at 1,4v didn´t help. i think there are a problem.
gpu temperature is 40° at idle with watercooling.
i use the new DFI board with ati chipset. can that be the problem?
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Originally Posted by Tom2110
1.4v on a XL is way too much. u might kill the core going so high.
Nope... this was covered, but it's the hyper transpo bus...Quote:
Originally Posted by spajdr
Anyways, what I wanted to add here that the DFI lanparty boards, with the extra molexs on the mobo for power really get a GOOD amount of voltage into the pci-e slots... I know this because coming from an MSI neo4 plat/sli it did not have those extra connectors, and it barely had enough juice to power my cards at GT speeds... I couldn't reach ultra speeds no matter what... too unstable.. but with the DFI this is not a problem. I was shocked at how well my cards overclocked on this mobo... went from 410/1070 max oc to 450/1230 (bench stable). while there is no way to boost it, I think the voltage is ample for good OCing... and pci-e video cards draw more voltage from the pci-e slots than the extra power connector... or so I hear... but I would say you're set on your DFI for that. You should not have to increase it beyond what it's at now.
imo
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Originally Posted by gunit
1,4v is real 1,36v thats ok with water.
i only would test that voltage to see goes the core higher?
but the core didn´t go at 600 the voltage i have from 1,2v - 1,4v tested.
all the same result.
i think me what´s the problem. the core must go higher with that vgpu
600/600 is still not too bad I suppose. IT would beat a GT for sure.
Decided to try one more 9k run this morning since it was cold in the house. This was with a cold boot. Same system as before: stock cooler, x24400+@2.4, 1g, sapphire x1800xl OEM from newegg.
675/820 1.35/2.2: 3dmarkd 05 = 9160
I tried 820 last night but got major artifacts - although the system had been running 48hrs straight. Last night it was left off. Seems that is definitly temp bound. Not sure if 675 would have ran at 1.3 but I figured I had one shot till the system got nice and toasty.
damn, now that is a sweet oc. makes my 575/550 look like pooh.
here is some pics of the anomolies I am getting in COD2.
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Notice how all backgrounds and characters are ok but all effects are screwed up. Explosions are flashing squares, fire is flashing squares even strobe lights are flashing white triangles. Any clue what this is? Is my card bunk or is this something else? I have tried enabling/disabling AA/AF, changing mipmap quality from performance to quality, put card back to stock speeds/volts nothing changes it. It is only in this game as well. Quake 4 and all benches look fine.
cantankerous : omg, thats interesting .. what about catalyst AI, tried to disabled it? reinstalled drivers?
It could be the game just not playing right with the card thats all. It might just be one of those glitches that will be fixed in decembers driver release. Submit it as a bug report to ATI and see what they say.
I had the same thing in quake 4. I had black squares on the walls. Even @ stock speeds. So i have send my card back. I hope i get my new card this week. I will not use the OC tool for a wile first i'm gonna test how the games run @ stock if i have not got any problems.
Those XL core realy hate voltages. almost no XL is able to run XT voltages. And can not run @ 700 core because of that. I realy hope the progrma is'n killing te cards. I preffer a hardmod for now. Or a XT 256 bios. I don't trust that program annymore. So its max CCC clocks for me then. Just waiting for a new version of ATi tool. And Hardmods.
I guess problem is when you set voltages, then restart pc few times, and set voltage from low to higher, that just card didnt like, would be better if we could have bios with preset voltages and not this manual crap.
Have GPU 600 / MEM 1400 .. on gpu 1.150V and 1.95V mem and no artifacts in FEAR after 20 minutes of playing, not bad.
so what you guys are seeing in my screenshots is NOT from a bad card? I don't have to worry anymore? Thing is no one else is mentioning this which is why I have been stressing. I too was thinking my card may have been damaged in someway. If it doesn't look like card damage or a bad overclock then that is great news. Perhaps it is just a driver glitch. I may use driver cleaner and put a differnet driver set in just to see how it does. I 'll let you know what I come up with. Thanks guys.
cantankerous : yeah, try different driver for sure and throw a report here, i could test CoD2 too, but tomorrow, dont have game yet.
Well bad news. I did a proper uninstall of official 5.11 drivers and put back in the Omega based 5.10a and the exact same thing.
Is there a special part of the card that processess effects like those shown above that perhaps may be bad or does the main gpu process that just like everything else?
Going to try 5.9 on the shipped CD. If that doesn't help it I dunno cause no one else is mentioning this.
cantankerous : i can only imagine that memory on card is damaged, and stored texture shows this mess when in damaged memory chip. What about FEAR or other benchmarks? 3D Mark 2001SE first test, no problems there with explosions?
No, FEAR I don't have installed right now however Quake 4, and all 3dmarks show up just fine. I will admit I don't know too much about how vid cards work but I was wondering if maybe one of the 16 pipes was damaged or perhaps one of the 8 vertex shaders? If that is even possible.
It is weird cause all backgrounds and characters look fantastic, it is just effects that look screwed up.
Going through the options on the card such as soften shadows and the such can get rid of this anomoly, but only briefly. For the time being it is fine but when I go to change another option or start the game back up they come back again so I have no clue. If I disable soften shadows altogether it seems that this problem doesn't come back as often as when I leave it enabled to world only or everything. I tried 5.9 on shipped CD, 5.10a omega and 5.11 official and they all exhibit the same thing. Very, very strange to say the least. I am picking up two new 74GB raptors tomorrow and am going to format from fresh to see what I come up with. Either way card is 100% stable from crashes and 100% free of artifacts except for this nonsence in COD2.
Is it likely a game bug or damaged memory? Now I'm sad as I thought this card was the cats meow until this. I don't want to wait a whole new month for another CAT release just to see if this gets fixed up, or better yet, a longer wait for a patch to COD2 itself.
Anyone noticed anything similar in perhaps another game where backgrounds are mint but overlaying effects are fubared?
cantankerous : well .. i got new problems .. i installed SP2 and when i run for example 3D Mark 03 .. i got 13500marks with 600/1400 .. when i run mother nature, it drops when looking a far after looking into water up to 22fps! even X800GTO2 got more then 30fps, im sure i didnt changed anything else lol, or was it with sapphire? im confused :(
Never got so many problems like with this card :( first sapphire then this :(
looks like we are both having issues. Here is my new one to add to the list. From day 1 I was able to run the CCC Overdrive automated clock checker and after 4 seperate runs each run came back as clocks stable at 574/550. After the problems I was having I decided to run it one last time to see what it would come up with. Now it tells me my card is only stable at 574/540! Something is up with this card and the memory it seems. Never overclocked higher than max overdrive settings and voltage was never set higher than 1.150 from stock 1.100 and even then it was for about 10 mins max. This sucks.
Same problem, go ( in COD2 ) options/graphic and disable soften smoke edges. Than it will be ok. Seems to be game bug ...Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous