hehe:)
I assumed what Maxxxxxxxx said was true with the BS i've read so far over there. :p:
When I get back to work I'm blocking THG's IP for whole building
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I assumed what Maxxxxxxxx said was true with the BS i've read so far over there. :p:
When I get back to work I'm blocking THG's IP for whole building
:rofl:
What do they mean "working out" the rankings??? Should be automatic.Quote:
At long last, both platforms are running in a stable manner, so the crew can concentrate on the data records and working out the current rankings.
Wrong! they had a high RPM cooler eariler when the crashes happened.Quote:
However, the reason for the system crashes in the last few days are now very clear. The boxed cooler we used briefly was only designed for the Pentium 820
http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~smanning/9.mht
Look, 3500RPM and a cool 65C.
They must mean later when they put the wrong HSF on. i.e. the last three crashes.
Saaya can you intern at TOMS please? Their bablefish german to english translations sux too.
nvm
*sigh* what a thread ...
LOL! no man, check out the pics! its a totally different heatsink!Quote:
Originally Posted by trance565
the heatsink and the fan dont come seperated, the fan is already mounted on the heatsink when it arrives :)
look, a btx heatsink is made out of round alu platters on a copper stick pretty much, and that copper stick then sits on the cpu. then you mount a tunnel on top of it and the air gets ducted through the alu platters from left to right.
an atx heatsink is a copper stick with an alu stick around it and many alu fins, and a fan on top blowing air from the top to the bottom of the heatsink. totally different thing.
and a btx heatsink is impossible to mount onto an atx mainboard!
here, this is another pic of the btx heatsink where you can clearly see that its 100% not the same thing thg used, and that its impossible to mount on an atx mainboard:
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/image...View_small.jpg
the heatsink they used is in no way a btx heatsink. btx heatsinks dont have any fans directly attacked to them
but its the same heatsink all sites used for their 840 reviews :eh:Quote:
However, the reason for the system crashes in the last few days are now very clear. The boxed cooler we used briefly was only designed for the Pentium 820
so whats the 840 boxed heatsink then? :confused:
what do you need translated? just post it here and i will translate it :)
OMG! you guys! check out the latest update! :eek:
OMG!!!!!!!!!!1
HHhaHAhhaHAhahahHahahAhAhAh :rofl:Quote:
Friday, June 10, 2005: Both systems have been running without any problems so far, AMD since June 7, 8 pm, Intel since June 8, 3 pm.
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050603/index.html
wait wait wait... let me get this straight. they changed the intel mainboards, right? since its a new mainboard the tool that records the temps and stuff made a new file where it saved those infos? and the online stats didnt get updated because the sever was reading from the old file? but then why did the intel stats increase and get updated if the results were actually written to a different file?Quote:
We also like to thank those readers who discovered a questionable error message in our Intel statistics showing "network not connected" whereas it did not show up on the AMD platform. Unfortunately, our stat tool was still connected to a logfile of the previous motherboard. The new one was sending network data to a file with a different name - sorry for that. So don't worry, we didn't loose any data and everything is alright now. By short inspection we didn't find any irregularities in this file by the way. All important data logs such as temperature, fan speed and memory usage have been displayed correctly.
i dont get it, can somebody please explain this to me?
and didnt the stats show the amd system as offline as well? :confused:
Well to be fair it's honest. Amd's ran since june 7th without them touching it, therefore without any problems. :P
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Originally Posted by Zebo
That sounds like a challenge to me. Now if only I had a spare xp120
well the intel system crashed 3 times, how can they say everything was running fine? its not normal that systems crash... lol :D
and it turns out the cards they used are gt and not ultras? :stick: geez this is getting worse and worse... horrable journalism at its best there...
and the ocz ddr2 memory was actually cl5.0? but didnt they say they were running 4-4-4 timings? so they tweaked the intel system but didnt tweak the amd system? :stick:
and now they say they also changed the memory because it didnt work on one of the mobos! LOL
uhmmm in case you didnt notice guys, you were running the fan at 4300rpm for the last days :stick:Quote:
However, the reason for the system crashes in the last few days are now very clear. The boxed cooler we used briefly was only designed for the Pentium 820 - also dual core but clocked at 2.8 GHz - not for the top-of-the-line Pentium 840 EE (3.2 GHz) model. The two boxed coolers, which are nearly identical in appearance, differ in that a large copper core is used in the model for the 830/840/840EE processors. Added to that is the much higher fan speed: 3500 RPM instead of the 2000 RPM on the "smaller" model.
wow, you guys figured that out all by yourselves? :slap:Quote:
Dual core is not always dual core: other specs apply at higher clock speeds.
they are seriously trying to get away with it it seems! :eek:
LIARS !! What a bunch of *ยค*%**&** !!Quote:
Friday, June 10, 2005: Both systems have been running without any problems so far,AMD since June 7,
AMD has been running from day 1 without any problems !!
I never tought that Intel would need help from THG idiots.. Well, live and learn.. ;)
edit: added "would need help from"
well they must be so incapable of building a working system that 3 reboots in 2 days is normal for them, probably even more stable than their average systems! :lol:
[THG reviewer] what? there are systems that dont crash for months? like never? woaaa :eek: [/THG reviewer]
btw, are they running their new bigger faster better 840 boxed heatsink now or are they still running the 820 boxed heatsink?
I documented 12 eariler in this thread. Not that that means anything, toms HW is totally incompetant to be running any sort of review site. Maybe they just dropped off a box of HW in some third world country to people who have never seen hardware before and said "get to it"... Outsourceing is the big thing nowadays.Quote:
well the intel system crashed 3 times
So they will be deactivating hyperthreading on the Intel system :up:
Not saying if it is fair, but curios at what the results will be ... :rolleyes:
I quess they learned their lesson, they are hardware experts now.. :bsod:Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
I wonder that are they going to replace parts for Intel until AMD crashes for some reason, and then make a story that AMD has failed ?
They probably do that, even if AMD crashes becouse of Windows error or something similar..
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Originally Posted by Ref
No it's not fair, wtf is that all about. :confused:
I can show the results here: Look at the 840 when more than two tasks applied. Dismal. 4800 destorys it.. Like I said eariler the *only* p4d worth anything at all is the EE due to Hyperthreading.
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...4-x2-4800.html
If they disable Intel XE hyperthreading, then according to this, Intel is going to be in trouble....
http://koti.welho.com/pnystro2/somep...ltitasking.PNG
Oh ya I forgot it's the XE now not EE.:)
Everyone is spelling extreme: xtreme now. :roll eyes:
This is how I feel about that
[url]http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=xtreme_bull:banana::banana::banana::banana :[url]
Yeah it is not fair, but we will see how AMD handles more processes in comparison to PEE.
PEE840 w/o GT = PD840
so instead of having 2 theoretical cores running with a 400mhz fsb like the single cores, they gonna have 2 actual cores running 800 fsb?
Saaya I have kept some screenshots (on work computer ) of when I posted about the big jump in AMD figures except for the drop in AMD FPS on farcry (around 10am CET I think).Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
could anoyne sum up for anyone who sees this thread, what exactly has happened? since the lying Tom Pabst has attempted to cover up the truth, only this thread and others like it on other forums serve as accurate records of the history behind the 'stress test'. could someone please sum up the problems that each system ran into? what we know so far:
the Intel setup chewed 5 Asus P5ND2-SLI Deluxe's...
Read the thread:)
Notice the AMD is on a Gigabyte board. What they needed to do is use boards from the same manufactor that retail in the same price catagory.
it is Pretty much useless to compare with such a variance in Platform hardware.
same board, same memory, same power supply same heatsink same Video one AMD proc one Intel.