AMD Turion 64 2800+ First Look!!

i'll bite too, though i'd like the 3700+ :D
(unless you think it will be in stores within 2 weeks, then i won't)

also, FF and tristan, i'm working on a revE oc database over at [H], would you mind telling me the 2nd line of the opn along with your max stable oc and the voltage it took to get there? thanks :toast:

AMN3200BKX5BU

AMN3400BKX5BU

AMN3700BKX5BU

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

i'll bite too, though i'd like the 3700+ :D
(unless you think it will be in stores within 2 weeks, then i won't)

also, FF and tristan, i'm working on a revE oc database over at [H], would you mind telling me the 2nd line of the opn along with your max stable oc and the voltage it took to get there? thanks :toast:

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Your guess is as good as mine as to when resellers will have them. ??????

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Originally Posted by fr0stedflakes

Sign me up for that 3400+ if the price is still between $250-275. I want another shot at these new CPUs....

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So the story continues... :toast:
Make sure you start a fresh new thread when you get it, i'm waiting!
Turion seems to be for low power only.

vandi, fantastic news. can't believe you are going to help us out again. you are indeed the man. as for me though, i am going to wait till i get rid of one of the two cpus i have right now. (although i really do think these are the s754 san diegos we were looking for in the turion. gosh that 3700 looks damn appealing. 12x mult drool.)

ozzi,
TMSMT34BQX5LD
CABSE 0507 GPAW
right now max is at 289@9 (2601) @ 1.65 volts (sounds like really high voltage and is but only primes at around 40c)

Just got the new price list and ALL of the Turions are GONE! None left. Yet I still don't see any resellers selling them? They probably all went to Notebooks. Same thing will probably happen to these:

AMN3200BKX5BU
AMN3400BKX5BU
AMN3700BKX5BU

Nobody knows they can buy them unless they ask. Hell, I didn't even know about these until tristancarton showed the press release. These will probably go to notebooks as well and will go unnoticed by resellers. :( I'm poor right now so I can't be the first to find out.

All of these are in full stock:
AMN2800BIX5AR
AMN3000BIX5AR
AMN3200BIX5AR
AMN3400BIX5AR
AMA2800BEX5AR
AMA3000BEX5AR
AMA3200BEX5AR
AMA3400BEX5AR
AMA3700BEX5AR

thanks tristan.

vandi, i'll fire off an email to the suggestion department of newegg, and perhaps something to monarch too, though monarch never carried the mobiles, just DTR.

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

thanks tristan.

vandi, i'll fire off an email to the suggestion department of newegg, and perhaps something to monarch too, though monarch never carried the mobiles, just DTR.

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Good Luck. :cool:

You guys asked me to tell you when I saw Newark.That's why I want to go into manufacturing, producing things to make people happy. :) :banana: :banana: Hopefully you can get through to someone who will actually investigate the issue and not give you a stupid answer like the Venice/San Diego responses that I've seen. Once again, Good Luck and I hope they listen to you. :toast:

yeah, i know what you mean. i'm somewhat hesitant about things like that too, though from what i heard from FF and Tristan, you did a very good job :toast:

as a side note, both emails (to newegg and AMD tech support) went out about 5 min ago. hopefully i'll get a response by tomorrow.. wednesday at the latest.

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

yeah, i know what you mean. i'm somewhat hesitant about things like that too, though from what i heard from FF and Tristan, you did a very good job :toast:

as a side note, both emails (to newegg and AMD tech support) went out about 5 min ago. hopefully i'll get a response by tomorrow.. wednesday at the latest.

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I'm curious what AMD tech support tells you...

honestly, me too. last time i asked them something, the email got bumped up a higher priority so that i could be told that "discussion mobile processor support in a desktop is not a supported action" (or something like that)
hahaha, i laughed when i saw that :D

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

honestly, me too. last time i asked them something, the email got bumped up a higher priority so that i could be told that "discussion mobile processor support in a desktop is not a supported action" (or something like that)
hahaha, i laughed when i saw that :D

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LOL

I am glad Mobo makers ignored AMD and went ahead to support Turion unofficially. 25W Rocks! Makes me want to take off the IHS off of my 89W Opterons.

well, both companies got the emails, i got auto-replies thanking me for contacting them. haha, i doubt they really are happy that i'm asking crazy questions though :banana:

figured i would post this as well. seems gamepc has put up a review of the turion. i wouldn't say it is shining though. imo, it gets pretty smashed by the pentium-m. seems if you are going low power mobile you may want to stay with intel and desktop stay with amd. damn can't wait till intel kills their p4 line and goes all pentium-m architecture.

http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_cont...urion64&page=1

oh yeah and they have the exact same problems as we were seeing in the overclocking field.

About the benchmarks, remember that the price difference between a MT-34 ($268) and a 770 ($660 store price, because Intel lists prices including chipset and wlan) is BIG. It should be compared to a 740 ($250), but the Turion doesn't look so much better even then anyway.

About power consumption, I'm guessing that the nVidia chipset uses at least 15 W more, plus that the mobo power regulators are designed to work with hot running 3700+ in mind, probably lower efficency at 25 W. I'd say the Turion is just as low power as the PM, but it's kinda hard to find a low power mobo for it.

BAH! i went to check newegg just a minute ago.
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ubmit=Property

see the 3700+? it wasn't there yesterday. my heart skipped a beat.













then i saw BEX.. and DTR :(
went to look at the picture to check, and sure enough, it's the DTR. :slapass:

Hi :),

What s the behaviour of the turion with 3x512 Mo ram ? 1T ? big fsb ? please tell me :slobber:

if you look back in the thread, the guys seem to be having troubles with ram, and could not get 3 sticks to work properly. perhaps this will be sorted out with a bios update, but for now... :(

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Originally Posted by tristancarton

other note:
-played around with three sticks again at 2T timings under ddr400 speeds. (with all settings on auto) can't get past post. (whereas my 62w 3400 claw can do 2-2-2-5 2T ddr432 all day with three sticks)

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There is no way to improve this :confused:

i think it is a bios problem at the moment. we will see if the support can be improved. i really hope so

Anything yet ozzimark?

as of 2 seconds ago, nope :(

well, here's what i got from amd. i'm not too pleased :slap:

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Hello Mark,

Thank you for contacting AMD's Technical Service Center.

Unfortunately, this office can only provide you with technical
specifications for AMD desktop processors only. For information
regarding your mobile AMD processor, please contact your laptop
manufacturer or get in contact with your local sales office
representative provided on the following link:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_3559_710^762,00.html
, for further assistance with this matter. I apologize for any
inconvenience this may have caused you.

Regards,
Liza
Customer Support Analyst
AMD TSC

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hopefully the newegg email will come back soon

im not getting another 754 cpu anymore since my mobo is dead :(
so sorry no sub zero tests

aww, that sucks man. :(
what'd you do to it?


and an update, i've got a 3700+ on the way

thanks vandi! :D