Building a Sossaman rig?

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10-09-2008, 05:38 AM
tiro_uspsss

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Originally Posted by gongo

hmm, it's dual rank... at least for my x6dlp, almost all of the approved mem <=2gb is single rank.
i'm using 2x2gb single rank elpida on my system.

the ICs on this ram is elpida too.. the DIMM is single-sided (ICs only on one side)

:up:
10-09-2008, 05:44 AM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

sure! np! - uno momento.. I will edit this post with the details! :up:

ok, heres the details.... hey, hang on a min.. are u suspecting that this slow-witted, triple-back-plate-buying ozzie bought the wrong stuff?!!? :p: :rofl:

details:

Kingston KVR400D2S8R3/512I
(512MB SS DIMM, PC2-3200, CL3, REG & ECC)

the 'I' at the end of the model code apparently denotes that it is 'Intel Verified/Certified' - according to the Kingston website.. There is (iirc) some stuff, almost exactly the same code number, but without the 'I' at the end blahblahblah (u get the pic ;) )

anything else I need to add? :)

That memory should work fine..
10-09-2008, 05:50 AM
tiro_uspsss

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Originally Posted by Movieman

That memory should work fine..

:up:
10-09-2008, 01:52 PM
Jaco

I have partnumber KVR400D2D8R3/1G .
No 'I' mentioned ...
Also Elpida chips here , AGBG-6E-E
10-09-2008, 02:51 PM
jcool

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Originally Posted by [XC] Jaco

I have partnumber KVR400D2D8R3/1G .
No 'I' mentioned ...
Also Elpida chips here , AGBG-6E-E

Same here..

Though I only got 1 stick, as my distributor was out of stock :shakes:
Cost only 16€ though :up:
10-09-2008, 02:59 PM
Jaco

16€ ??
I've paid 29€ ... :shakes: (also bought 1 stick for now)
10-09-2008, 03:33 PM
jcool

Yeah well.. w/o taxes ;)
But still :D
10-10-2008, 06:46 AM
tiro_uspsss

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Originally Posted by gongo

the x6dlp is using the ics932s208 for clock generation. looks like we can toggle bit 5 in byte 6 to bump the fsb from a pokey 166mhz to a suicidal 333mhz... or we can hardwire the fs_a and fs_b pins to get the clocks we want. bleh.

:confused2: @ that fsb, we'd need a multi of x6~x7 to keep it sane! :nuts:
10-10-2008, 06:52 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

the x6dlp is using the ics932s208 for clock generation. looks like we can toggle bit 5 in byte 6 to bump the fsb from a pokey 166mhz to a suicidal 333mhz... or we can hardwire the fs_a and fs_b pins to get the clocks we want. bleh.

Keep this in mind:
The max FSB ever seen on a yonah chip was 245 and that was on one of those AOpen975 boards. I think they got to 2950mhz.
Now 12x233 would be nice..2796. BUT I think that with this board short of volt mods 12x200 is the most we can hope for.
10-10-2008, 11:41 AM
rcofell

Well, I would imagine raising the fsb would also raise the ram clocks, but I guess that wouldn't be a bad thing :)
Do you happen to know where the FS_A and FS_B pins lead to, somewhere on the chipset I assume?

How sure are you that it's a clockgen just for the pci-e?
I just bring this up because on the s771 board I just received it has at least three clock chips, although two are real clock generators, while the other is a buffer for the I/O slots.
10-10-2008, 01:44 PM
rcofell

Okay, the only reason I bring up it being a buffer is it needs a clock source, which I presume comes from the main pll (which has its SRC output at the desired 100MHz). As a buffer all it's doing is taking the input clock and outputting it at either the same freq or freq/2, just buffered of course so that it has the drive strength/fanout capabilities and what not.

But yeah, I guess I didn't think about it going straight to the BSEL pins, I'm relatively new to this Intel stuff :)
To make sure they're directly connected you could just check with a multimeter in continuity mode.
Though haven't the BSEL mods been tried in the past without success? Just curious what could potentially keep it from taking effect.
10-11-2008, 01:31 AM
pcaddict

very nice gongo
10-12-2008, 07:43 AM
just a noob

could anybody tell me what the best graphics card i could put into one of these would be, ive only got the pci-x slot, and the pcie 8 or whatever it is
10-12-2008, 07:51 AM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by just a noob

could anybody tell me what the best graphics card i could put into one of these would be, ive only got the pci-x slot, and the pcie 8 or whatever it is

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161079
or:
Take an xacto knife, heat blade and cut out the back of the pci-e x8 slot and slam a regular vid card in there.
Will work fine with an X8 signal
10-12-2008, 08:10 AM
Martijn

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Originally Posted by Movieman

Take an xacto knife, heat blade and cut out the back of the pci-e x8 slot and slam a regular vid card in there.
Will work fine with an X8 signal

That is exactly what I was planning as well. Many motherboards with an extra PCIe 16x slot are made that way as well, with the only difference there being the physical x16 slot available. The only thing I am worried about is the amount of current the x8 slot can deliver. I wouldn't want to throw a mid-end GPU in there (IE 4650/9500GT) since it uses nearly all the power a x16 slot supply. That would be way over the specs of a x8 slot. I'd only use low-end cards and high-end cards with an extra power connector.
10-12-2008, 08:15 AM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by Martijn

That is exactly what I was planning as well. Many motherboards with an extra PCIe 16x slot are made that way as well, with the only difference there being the physical x16 slot available. The only thing I am worried about is the amount of current the x8 slot can deliver. I wouldn't want to throw a mid-end GPU in there (IE 4650/9500GT) since it uses nearly all the power a x16 slot supply. That would be way over the specs of a x8 slot. I'd only use low-end cards and high-end cards with an extra power connector.

maybe..But consider this;
On the supermicro X6xxx series they have 2X16 slots and the second carries a x4 signal but works fine with a vid card so I'm assuming that this x8 slot will also.
The funny thing is that in the bios there is the choice for pci-e or onboard vid.
That was a pleasant surprise that I didn't expect to see.
10-12-2008, 08:17 AM
Martijn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

maybe..But consider this;
On the supermicro X6xxx series they have 2X16 slots and the second carries a x4 signal but works fine with a vid card so I'm assuming that this x8 slot will also.
The funny thing is that in the bios there is the choice for pci-e or onboard vid.
That was a pleasant surprise that I didn't expect to see.

Yes I know, but because it's a physical x16 slot it can deliver the current of a x16 slot, yet it only has the usable lanes of a x4 slot. That is what I am worried about. Data is not an issue here, it's the amount of current that can go through a x8 slot rather then a x16 slot :)
10-12-2008, 11:13 AM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by gongo

my 8600gt is working perfectly fine with the 8x bus. it doesn't have a power connector, it draws all it's power from the pcie slot. i too was worried about this initially, but even after a couple hours of gears of war and lost planet, it's still fine. being that i don't game too much (this weekend was an exception since i was basically stress testing it) the 8600 is fine for me. maybe next year i'll put a 9-series in there. i'm not worried about the data end of things since many boards running in sli actually set both gpus to 8x anyway.

A Sammy with a 8600GT.. Don't tell Naekuh or he'll have damp shorts and you game with this?
Very nice, this will make this an even more interesting setup.
Oh,forgot.I couldn't find all the docs on this. I must have had them on a drive I pulled from the network..
10-12-2008, 11:16 AM
Martijn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

A Sammy with a 8600GT.. Don't tell Naekuh or he'll have damp shorts and you game with this?
Very nice, this will make this an even more interesting setup.
Oh,forgot.I couldn't find all the docs on this. I must have had them on a drive I pulled from the network..

Wait until I throw my GTX280 in there :rofl:
10-12-2008, 11:25 AM
Jaco

I am going to use the onboard video.
This is the only board I have with integrated video, so I'll try that.
Sossaman is not really a gaming platform is it?
10-12-2008, 11:27 AM
Martijn

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Originally Posted by [XC] Jaco

I am going to use the onboard video.
This is the only board I have with integrated video, so I'll try that.
Sossaman is not really a gaming platform is it?

I am sure I'd get the Sammy WR with a GTX280? :rofl:
10-12-2008, 01:11 PM
just a noob

would i see any bottlenecks if i threw a gtx 280/9800gx2 in there? p.s. posting from a psp is a real pita
10-12-2008, 01:22 PM
Martijn

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Originally Posted by just a noob

would i see any bottlenecks if i threw a gtx 280/9800gx2 in there? p.s. posting from a psp is a real pita

I'll let you know when I get the board :ROTF:

The x8 slot might limit the bandwith of the 280 though. I'm not really sure how much bandwith modern GPUs consume.
10-12-2008, 01:44 PM
D_A

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Originally Posted by Martijn

I'm not really sure how much bandwith modern GPUs consume.

Ummm ... a tad. :rolleyes:

Good luck finding a working 280 though. :shakes: <- disappointment
10-12-2008, 01:47 PM
Martijn

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Originally Posted by D_A

Ummm ... a tad. :rolleyes:

Good luck finding a working 280 though. :shakes: <- disappointment

* Looks through the window in his case...

OH WAIT, IT'S A 280 :shocked::shocked:

Problem solved :D

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