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02-10-2008, 09:21 PM
Robilar

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphirex7

Hi
This thread at the EVGA forums on alternative NorthBridge cooling might be of interest
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=213483

So my rig has been running for 5 days so far (waiting for all of the parts to assemble) and I am running at stock speeds so far....Any advice on setting up a slight O'clock?

Thanks
SaphireX

Too much work, try an antec spotcool instead. Better temps (it has a 3 speed controller) and installs in 10 seconds).

http://www.overclock.net/3167191-post3.html
02-11-2008, 05:14 AM
radical

The Blue Screen & the DVD drive - 780i

Specs as follows:

eVGA 780i SLI 775 Rev. A1
Intel Kentsfield Q6600 L727A
2x OCZ PC2-6400 Vista Performance Platinum Dual Channel DDR2 800 @ 5-4-4-15(4GB)
eVGA 8800 GTS SSC 640Mb
3x WD Caviar SE16 500GB RAID-5
2x SH-S203B 20X SpeedPlus DVD Writer.

Currently running XP SP2 (and patches).

I did find out one thing for sure. The system seems pretty stable right now after getting all the patches and BIOS updates up to current. I still get a Blue screen every now and then, but there is a definite pattern - If I am accessing the DVD drive in explorer and eject a disk - that is when the OS will sometimes Blue screen. It never happens any other time. As long as I know this, I will avoid doing it, but it appears to be some kind of bug with the driver/controller/drives. :shrug:

And yes, I updated the DVD drive BIOS too, it was a couple of revs less than current. I have updated the board to P3 BIOS rev as well.

FYI
02-11-2008, 08:28 AM
radical

BSOD - 780i & DVD drives

The BSOD says something to the effect of "nvgts.sys" crashed.

rad
02-11-2008, 07:24 PM
GAR

This has been said more than a few times in this thread, the nvidia drivers seem to be the issue with the BSOD in XP, VISTA, has no BSOD problem........to fix this dont install the media shield drivers while installing the chipset drivers, something to do with raid and sata cd-rom drives.
02-11-2008, 09:40 PM
lopri

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

i wont believe you enless you show me an 8 hour prime shot, blend.

My mistake. Somehow I mistook vFSB as vSPP. Still, vFSB=1.3V and vSPP=1.4V. I will dig up a Prime shot. I normally don't run Blend, though. Always LargeFFT because I think it stresses the memory controller (not the memory) most.
02-11-2008, 09:50 PM
lopri

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

This has been said more than a few times in this thread, the nvidia drivers seem to be the issue with the BSOD in XP, VISTA, has no BSOD problem........to fix this dont install the media shield drivers while installing the chipset drivers, something to do with raid and sata cd-rom drives.

As a matter of fact, that was the biggest trouble I went through with 680i. Even without RAID, it wasn't uncommon that I get a file corrupt or BSOD. After the initial Prime (I am not aiming a high FSB overclock with this setup, rather a quiet gaming machine.. as much as possible) I setup a RAID0 with 2 x Raptors for OS/Apps, and RAID1 with 2 x 500GB for data. Plus 2 x DVD-RW's. All off of the 6 SATA ports rooted in MCP. I also have both ethernet ports hooked to gigabit switch. Between the LAN and RAID, I constantly move/copy variety of files and folders. Install/uninstall and defrag. So far the stability of storage subsystem is leaps and bounds better than that of 680i. (Granted I am running my rig outside a case with extra cooling on MCP)
02-11-2008, 09:53 PM
lopri

Quote:

Originally Posted by radical

The BSOD says something to the effect of "nvgts.sys" crashed.

rad

A quick Q for you: Did you install the RAID driver before/with the OS, or after the OS installation?
02-12-2008, 01:34 AM
malik22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robilar

Too much work, try an antec spotcool instead. Better temps (it has a 3 speed controller) and installs in 10 seconds).

http://www.overclock.net/3167191-post3.html

Robilar thx for the recommendation but they dont sell those in my country Since your have a Ultra extreme like me do you think this fan will fit?
http://www.pc-cooling.ch/product_inf...oducts_id=2743
its 60x38mm
02-12-2008, 05:36 AM
icon57

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncsa

Couldn't find one, so here's a Template for the key BIOS items which may help others to share their settings. Although it is an XFX BIOS it is running on an eVGA board so maybe some differences between the two.

Code:

eVGA/XFX 780i BIOS Settings Advance Chipset Features System Clocks ** Frequency Setting ** CPU Multiplier - x9 PCIe x16_3, MHz - 120 SSP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHZ - 250.0 ** HT Multiplier ** nforce SPP --> nForce MCP 4 x nforce SPP <-- nForce MCP 4 x ** Spread Spectrun Setting ** x CPU Spread Spectrun - Disabled x HT Spread Spectrun - Disabled x PCIe Spread Spectrun(MCP) - Disabled x SATA Spread Spectrun - Disabled FSB & Memory Config FSB - Memory Clock Mode - Unlinked x FSB - Memory Ratio - Auto FSB (QDR), MHz - 1700 MEM (DDR), MHz - 907 Memory Timing Setting Memory Timing Setting - Expert tCL (CAS Latency) - 4 tRCD - 3 tRO - 3 tRAS - 8 Command Per Clock (CMD) - 2T ** Advance Memory Settings ** tRRD - Auto(4) (4) tRC - Auto(26) (26) tWR - Auto(6) (6) tWTR - Auto(10) (9) tREF - Auto (7.8uS) CPU Configuration Limit CPUID MaxVal - Disabled Intel SpeedStep - Disabled PPM Mode - Native Mode CPU Thermal Control - Disabled C1E Enhanced Halt State - Disabled Excute Disable Bit - Disabled Virtualization Technology - Disabled CPU Core 0 - Enabled CPU Core 1 - Enabled CPU Core 2 - Enabled CPU Core 3 - Enabled System Voltages CPU Core - 1.60000 (1.52v) CPU FSB - Auto (1.4v) Memory - 2.200v ( 2.200v) nForce SPP - Auto (1.40v) nForce MCP - Auto (1.500v) GTLVREF Lane 0 - Auto (+00mv) GTLVREF Lane 1 - Auto (+95mv) GTLVREF Lane 2 - Auto (+00mv) GTLVREF Lane 3 - Auto (+00mv) HPET Function - Disabled Intergrated Peripherials RAID Config IEEE1394 controller - Disabled HD Audio - Disabled IDE HDD Block Mode - Enabled Onboard FDC Controller - Enabled Onboard Serial Port 1 - Disabled PnP/PCI Configurations Init Display First - PCIEx Reset Configuration - Disabled Resources Controlled By - Auto(ESCD) PCI/VGA Palette Snoop - Disabled PCI Latency Timer(CLK) - 32 ** PCI Express relative items ** Maximum Payload Size - 4096

GeIL EVO 4Gb DDR 907 C4-3-3-8 2T BIOS Settings
CPUz Validation - http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=307927

thanks, with those settings (except ram timings) i was able to hit 4MHz's
02-12-2008, 11:40 AM
Skrips

OK, I am SERIOUSLY considering running an EVGA solution, since my second RMA on my Abit 680i is not working, STIL. I am so sick and tired of getting blocked by bad hardware / incompatibilities, im just done with 680i

HOWEVER, I also have a spare BFG8800GTX sitting around that I COULD OC with NVtune and dump it on the new board along with my OC 2s....so I am setup already for SLI. However, I need to know the following:

Whats a good PSU that has 6 independant 6 pin rails for Tri-SLI?

I think I am going to pull the trigger on the new board and a new PSU here soon, say in a few hours. I have a few more things I am oging to try to get my current hardware configuration up and running, but I am not hoping for the best. Worst case, I get my new board and get everything up and running by this weekend for testing.

TYIA for the PSU suggestion. And oh, BTW, I want something in the 1200 watt range just to be safe!

--Skrips
02-12-2008, 11:52 AM
fadetoblack

i got the tagan bz1100w psu, and it is awesome. if you look on nvidias site it is also certified for tri sli, although im using dual sli. it has 4x6pin and 2x8pins so you dont need any adapters to power the third card. cables are also modular

edit: the 8pins are actually 6+2 so you can use them as 6 pins
02-12-2008, 12:08 PM
Skrips

Quote:

Originally Posted by fadetoblack

i got the tagan bz1100w psu, and it is awesome. if you look on nvidias site it is also certified for tri sli, although im using dual sli. it has 4x6pin and 2x8pins so you dont need any adapters to power the third card. cables are also modular

edit: the 8pins are actually 6+2 so you can use them as 6 pins

Ahhh, IC now. I was wondering about that when I was browsing Nvidia's website and saw no "Tri-SLI" certified PSus. That explains it. In my current setup I have a Coolermaster SLi rated 850W PSU, and I love it. Might go with the upgraded Coolermaster and see how that works, or I might not. Thanks for the heads up!

As for the BFG 8800GTX and my 2 BFG 8800GTX OC2s....I SHOULD be able to run tri-sli with those three cards, assuming I use NVtune to OC the regular 8800GTX to the OC2 card specs, correct?

--Skrips
02-12-2008, 02:04 PM
lopri

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

i wont believe you enless you show me an 8 hour prime shot, blend.

With regard to this..

Well I realized that Everest didn't show the vSPP in Windows. (Vista 64-bit) What apps can I use?

Edit: OK this is the best I could do for now. Also note that I'm running 2 vid cards..

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4943/spp1gf9.th.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9825/spp2eb4.th.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2619/spp3zh0.th.jpg
02-12-2008, 03:14 PM
fadetoblack

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skrips

As for the BFG 8800GTX and my 2 BFG 8800GTX OC2s....I SHOULD be able to run tri-sli with those three cards, assuming I use NVtune to OC the regular 8800GTX to the OC2 card specs, correct?

--Skrips

hmm.. i think that would work, but im not sure at all. you might wanna ask that on the slizone forums or something.
02-12-2008, 03:36 PM
Skrips

Quote:

Originally Posted by fadetoblack

hmm.. i think that would work, but im not sure at all. you might wanna ask that on the slizone forums or something.

Well, though I haven't played around with the NVtune tools, as far as I know you can clock the boards however you want to. And, since the 8800GTX cards and the 8800GTX OC2s are basically ideantical except for the factory overclocking, I would assume that overclocking the vanila 8800GTX to OC2 specs would in fact make it an OC2...

Then again, I might be wrong :up:
02-12-2008, 03:42 PM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopri

With regard to this..

Well I realized that Everest didn't show the vSPP in Windows. (Vista 64-bit) What apps can I use?

Edit: OK this is the best I could do for now. Also note that I'm running 2 vid cards..

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4943/spp1gf9.th.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9825/spp2eb4.th.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2619/spp3zh0.th.jpg

Look at your screen shots, you are using only 18% of your memory which is what your OS is using, run blend to it stressed your NB, then post some screen shots.....also you are running only a dual core cpu.
02-12-2008, 03:55 PM
lopri

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

Look at your screen shots, you are using only 18% of your memory which is what your OS is using, run blend to it stressed your NB, then post some screen shots.....also you are running only a dual core cpu.

That's kinda off from your original claim. I never said that I was running a quad and neither did you. All I remember is that you said it takes 1.5V for SPP to run 4GB of RAM and I said that's not the case.

Although I'm not around here too often, folks who know me that I prefer LargeFFT for various reasons. I also have ran 12 hour Memtest with 8GB of RAM but unfortunately there is no way for me to show you the vSPP in a screenshot.

I don't have any reason to lie about this nor time. You can move on thinking I'm mistaken.
02-12-2008, 04:25 PM
GAR

Anyway, when you are trying to prove me wrong, dont show me a cpu stability test and tell me your ram is stable........i have tested more than 5 780i's and they all performed equal.
02-12-2008, 04:46 PM
lopri

You're being funny now. I am sure that you know the difference between LargeFFT and Blend? If you ask people who work in the industry (like OCZ Tony), they will tell you that LargeFFT is a good barometer for memory controller stability. For pure memory testing, we have another industry standard called Memtest.

There are other reasons as well, but one big reason I don't like Blend is that I can't use the system while it's running. But I guess I will have to run it sometime later just to prove you wrong. Or should I be concerned that I don't have a quad-core?

And five 780i boards? Do you work for EVGA?
02-12-2008, 07:00 PM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopri

You're being funny now. I am sure that you know the difference between LargeFFT and Blend? If you ask people who work in the industry (like OCZ Tony), they will tell you that LargeFFT is a good barometer for memory controller stability. For pure memory testing, we have another industry standard called Memtest.

There are other reasons as well, but one big reason I don't like Blend is that I can't use the system while it's running. But I guess I will have to run it sometime later just to prove you wrong. Or should I be concerned that I don't have a quad-core?

And five 780i boards? Do you work for EVGA?

i know large is for memory, thats why im telling you your screen shots do not validate your point because it is small fft's
02-12-2008, 07:55 PM
ncsa

Glad it help out .. although I do hope you got a wee bit more than that ;)

4GHz is a good place to be, keep on going up :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by icon57

thanks, with those settings (except ram timings) i was able to hit 4MHz's
02-12-2008, 08:09 PM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

Anyway, when you are trying to prove me wrong, dont show me a cpu stability test and tell me your ram is stable........i have tested more than 5 780i's and they all performed equal.

Did your 5 boards have exact same max FSB headroom ?
02-12-2008, 08:13 PM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

Did your 5 boards have exact same max FSB headroom ?

Yeah, all of them died around 470-480......this is with my G0 Q6600........and all of them acted exactly like each other.....it was like they were all clones.
02-12-2008, 08:16 PM
eva2000

Did you try that Q6600 GO on P35/X38 to see what it's max FSB is ?

My Q6600 L725A903 G0 does 501FSB on Asus Blitz Formula just wondering if I'd be too limited on eVGA 780i ?
02-12-2008, 09:10 PM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

Did you try that Q6600 GO on P35/X38 to see what it's max FSB is ?

My Q6600 L725A903 G0 does 501FSB on Asus Blitz Formula just wondering if I'd be too limited on eVGA 780i ?

My Q6600 booted into windows at 500fsb with my x38, but was not stable....i dont think the 780i is going to beat your blitz

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