Biostar TForce P965 Deluxe - 530FSB 1:1 4-4-3-4

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12-07-2006, 10:36 PM
Lithan

A few questions....

1. How can I monitor temps in windows with this board?
2. How do I set up clockgen to work with this board?
3. Does this board lock PCI or does it work on a divider? If divider, is it a divider of pci-e or System bus?
4. I can do whatever I want up to 415... then nothing 416-419 works, then 420 works, then nothing higher works. I've raised every single voltage and nothing lets me go higher in bios... system either locks up posting or reboots right after posting with higher than 420, or 416-419 set. I am using the latest mod bios. Do I have to use clockgen to get higher or do you think I've reached some sort of chipset or cpu limit? (Ram is fatbody and does 4-3-3 @ 840 @ 2.1v, so it's not the problem.)
12-08-2006, 10:10 AM
Lithan

Ok figured all that out... Now:

965pt with 814 rh mod bios with e6400 with big typhoon with 2x1024 fatbody d9

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4-3-3-9-a-a-a-a
Spread spectrum- D
Autodetect PCI- D
448, 1:1, All volts are default except vdimm @ 2.1v.
100% memtest stable

@ 450+
memtest errors at end of test 5, or crash, or lock at Post, or reboot at anytime between post and end of test 5.

Tried raising every voltage individually and combined... no gain.
Tried loosening timings... no gain.

Any suggestions?
12-09-2006, 10:59 AM
uclajd

OK, finally hooked up Vapo (stock, but up for Jin Mod next week). Looks like 480 is the best I can do with my E6600 (rev B1 step 5). I am certain that the CPU is the FSB wall, as RAM is DDR2-1000 and when run at lower multi on another board, it craps out about 435.

Best bench so far, 4325 (480, 1:1 4-4-4-15): Cinebench 1337, SuperPi 1M 11.969. Not stable. Stable (doing two clients of D2OL) ~4200.

Definitely an FSB wall on the CPU.

EDIT: What Clockgen you guys using for the 965PT? :confused: :confused: What is the clock generator on these boards?
12-09-2006, 02:03 PM
JWilson

When you use Clk-Gen with this board, select ICS 9PLRS509 for the clock generator..
12-09-2006, 03:37 PM
uclajd

That's the one I tried, pursuant to this thread, but it crashed every time at any speed. Maybe this only works for the Deluxe? :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWilson

When you use Clk-Gen with this board, select ICS 9PLRS509 for the clock generator..
12-09-2006, 05:33 PM
JWilson

This is crazy, but mine use to work last month and now it just freezes the system! Tried the new 1.0.5.0, but moving from 266 to 275, set the FSB to 445 according to the readout of Clk-Gen... I don't know what is going on...
12-09-2006, 08:42 PM
Arska

Someone posted a while back that you should flash the 0803 deluxe bios to avoid instability because you can't turn off C1E with the PT bios. Well, even the deluxe bios doesn't help me. After a few reboots and a few days of use C1E gets turned on in Win XP (CPU thermal control and C1E have always been disabled in bios), meaning I have to drop almost to default clocks to get XP to be stable. This only happens when XP is installed as dual core (requiring APIC to be enabled). The only way to fix this is to do a repair install but like above, C1E makes a return after some time.

Is there something I'm not doing right? Keeping this E6400 at 2,4 GHz unless I want to do a repair install once a week is embarrassing. :slapass:

About clockgen, use 1.0.5.0 and ICS 9PLRS509. Worked for me with the default 914 bios.

Edit: I tested it again, and now C1E stays off as it should be. It seems that on some reboots it gets turned on, and I notice it when before logon screen a reboot happens at my normal overclocking settings.
12-09-2006, 11:13 PM
Lithan

Well, strapped a fan on northy... kept it cool to the touch and tried all steps of North and mch volts up to maximum (+.4) No improvement... still can't take ram (fatbody d9) above 455 1:1 OR 2:3. 455 @ 1.8v but no 460 @ 2.2v

So It's not cpu or ram I figure. Gotta be a board issue. Any suggestions?
12-10-2006, 04:06 AM
BAR*B*Q

i was stuck at kinda same fsb. allthough cpu got higher on another board i hit this wall with another cpu.

now i stuck at 490 again with two different cpu's. i get a freeze while running 1M at 495 mhz with both of them. is that coinscidence :confused:
i just cant believe boards is at its end :)
12-10-2006, 09:15 AM
Lithan

Anyone know a better setting than auto for the last four timings, using fatbody D9 @ 4-3-3-9-?-?-?-? for 450-500mhz?
12-10-2006, 09:28 AM
JWilson

Start by checking them with Memset, set the BIOS like Memset displays, and go higher and lower on each one while trying for higher FSB...
12-10-2006, 03:07 PM
BAR*B*Q

this could get a little ot but i only noticed following with the biostar board.

when i stress large in-place fft's with dual prime above 400 mhz i get a crash (no reboot/freeze, real crash). now i tried orthos and it runs flawless.

core temps get a bit warmer with prime95 but could that be the reason ? now,
is orthos rather to weak for strees testing or prime too strong ? :rolleyes:

another thing is when im blend testing with prime i get an error after a few minutes while orthos keeps testing.
12-10-2006, 09:11 PM
uclajd

OK, after lots of fiddling, it seems that 487x9 is the absolute limit on stock Vapo, so long as I can't get Clockgen to work (must boot into Windows at this speed). Just short of 4400. :( 488 won't post or even give me the two amber lights (damn amber lights! :upset: :cussing: ).

Vcore is maxed to 1.8 set in bios, 1.7 actual. I'm sure I could go higher with a little more volts.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7...9111735og3.jpg

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3...3911361zq5.jpg

Can run both cores 100% doing D2OL and WCC @ 4220 all day and all night.

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6...4220hc1.th.jpg

Nice, but I would still like to get to 4.5 stable on my main folding/distro computing rig. Might have to do the x6800 upgrade soon...

Edit: Pic of NB cooler and added mobo heatsinks:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2...1006gs9.th.jpg
12-11-2006, 06:44 AM
GaS

Hi everyone! I also own this PT board, but I am having lots of problems..So, the board is 965PT with Deluxe RebelsHaven Bios Mod and VDimm mod, GoodRam Pro 2x512 and E6300 that works at 500 with no problem at all.

Well, I just figured out, why my system freezes at POST at 450FSB. Because of tRP set to 4. When I have 4-4-4-12, this happened. Then I tried all the combinations, and when I set to 4-4-5-12, it POST successfully.

BUT, there is another problem now. My system is freezing all the time now. I have set it back to 4-4-4-12, 5-5-5-15, and it just doesnt care. I dont know what the problem is. I can be doing nothing, and it would freeze in about 10min.

I also noticed, that if I set 4-4-4-12, then I turn off, power on again to reset bios (because the system wont POST), change the FSB back to 450, then it works. BUT if I set to 4-4-5-12, or 5-5-5-15 at 450 and shut down, then power on, the system WILL boot(because of tRP different than 4) to XP and u can actually do sth, but it will freeze as mentioned before edit. So thats my problem I guess.
12-11-2006, 10:53 AM
Lithan

Well I can get up to 465 with cas 5... I doubt my cpu can run above that... but 450-458 @ cas 4 is the limit, regardless of vdimm. Anyone got any ideas?

Figured it out. :P Had OV jumper on... which makes board feed 2.05-2.1vdimm no matter what bios is set to.
12-11-2006, 01:47 PM
GaS

C2 chipset? Because I think those PTs with C2 are a not as good as the C1..Do your system post from power off with 4-4-4-12 at 450 or more?
12-11-2006, 05:39 PM
Misko

first day with my new CPU 629B, cooling TT BTvx

Biostar 965PT, last off. bios

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=145862

:toast:
12-11-2006, 08:20 PM
Doom5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misko82

first day with my new CPU 629B, cooling TT BTvx

Biostar 965PT, last off. bios

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=145862

:toast:

I also have a 629B. What settings did you use to acheive that OC? Northy voltage and cooling? CPU voltage? Memory and voltage?

Thanks!
12-11-2006, 09:22 PM
Doom5

Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong for measuring the VDIMM? On my DMM, I put the red probe on the choke, and ground the black probe to my case, but I don't get any reading at all, either on the 2v setting or 20v setting.
12-12-2006, 12:38 AM
Misko

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doom5

I also have a 629B. What settings did you use to acheive that OC? Northy voltage and cooling? CPU voltage? Memory and voltage?

Thanks!

Max voltages for sb&vmch, CPU 1.7V, memory up to 3.05, but if u release timings u will not need high vdimm
12-12-2006, 02:44 AM
GaS

Wow, 550+ FSB!? What is the problem with my board anyway? My e6300 was tested on a P5B DLX with 510FSB, RAM also works at 500+ 4-4-4-12, but on this 965PT this three things dont work well. Is it chipset, or bad compatibility?
12-12-2006, 03:10 AM
Misko

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaS

Wow, 550+ FSB!? What is the problem with my board anyway? My e6300 was tested on a P5B DLX with 510FSB, RAM also works at 500+ 4-4-4-12, but on this 965PT this three things dont work well. Is it chipset, or bad compatibility?

This is my second CPU 6300, first hit fsbwall on ~510 also, if u have micron based ram, limit is 99% CPU.
12-12-2006, 05:39 AM
GaS

Yes, I have GoodRam Pro 2x512, thats D9 as far as I know. But my CPU is not the limit, it is stable at 450x7@1.23V, but anything higher cause instability, system doesnt POST..I think mobo is the problem. Also, if I raise the chipset voltage, it works worse than with default (1.25V). I can pass POST with 485 and 5-5-5-15 with 1.35 (1.47V real), but when it comes to xp booting, it cause ntoskrnl.exe error..F*****-up.
12-12-2006, 06:13 AM
Misko

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaS

Yes, I have GoodRam Pro 2x512, thats D9 as far as I know. But my CPU is not the limit, it is stable at 450x7@1.23V, but anything higher cause instability, system doesnt POST..I think mobo is the problem. Also, if I raise the chipset voltage, it works worse than with default (1.25V). I can pass POST with 485 and 5-5-5-15 with 1.35 (1.47V real), but when it comes to xp booting, it cause ntoskrnl.exe error..F*****-up.

With my friends I already try 5x6300, 4 of them had fsbwall at ~500, the only one with out fsbwall is the one I linked.
12-12-2006, 06:52 AM
wedfighter

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaS

Yes, I have GoodRam Pro 2x512, thats D9 as far as I know. But my CPU is not the limit, it is stable at 450x7@1.23V, but anything higher cause instability, system doesnt POST..I think mobo is the problem. Also, if I raise the chipset voltage, it works worse than with default (1.25V). I can pass POST with 485 and 5-5-5-15 with 1.35 (1.47V real), but when it comes to xp booting, it cause ntoskrnl.exe error..F*****-up.

what bios r u using now?
my system w/ stock bios always had a ntoskernel thing when oc too high
with latest 914rh bios mod from RH the problem fixed

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