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ONLY P4C800 based on 875 have the PAT and at 200MHz sharp.............ALL the others come with a "phseudo-PAT" that gives you a bit BUT they just CAN'T touch the P4C800 on anything........The only board which can touch the P4C800 in performance and be over it, is the ABIT IC7 one.....FULL PAT at whatever frequency you chose.......Sad that they don't make a bios for it so as to support the adapter.....It would be a killer........:)
IMO P4P & P4C have the same performance. :)
Only difference is that 875 can handle 10/11 (110/111) DLP at high FSB.
If you look at new beetle & Cal930's P4P testing you will see they were able to use 11 DLP at 240 and 267 w/ P4P. (seeing their scores) [it is a deduction]
I dunno how they can. :/ I had not an answer from them.
But as i said before IMO DLP is the guilty.
http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~yok/M24GP/M24GP.html
Ciao
hipro5 is right, P4C can also handle higher FSB than P4P.
anyone got a new to mint stock ct-479 cooler sitting on the floor?
YGPMQuote:
Originally Posted by justthinking
Guys, help my out!
Now - you have got to help me. I simply just dont get it!!!
Whenever I set Dram as 333, Clockgen works like a charm - I can get 215 fsb before my memory hits 270 (and gets unstable). But whenever I set Dram to 266 (to get 1:1, right?), my system locks up at approx 202 fsb. WHY IS THAT?????
This is regardless of which timings i use.
Why can't I run 1:1 ??? Have i forgot something in my bios setup? Should I get another bios (flashed with p4p800se bios 1011)?
Dothan 770
P4P800-E dlx (with P4P800SE bios 1011)
2x512 GeiL Ultra PC 4200 3-4-4-8
Please tell me, if you need more specific information. Also, if you use another bios.
Please help - i'm getting desperate. I've been trying to figure this out for more than 14 hours now :(.
If you boot under 200fsb those settings multiply the ram up, eg 266fsb gives ddr400 when set to 333.If yo boot 200fsb or more you can set the ram to run ddr400 at 1/1 or if over 20ofsb then those numbers become dividers clocking the memory down, eg 250fsb gives you ddr400 when set to 320.
Edit: I just saw some of your other posts, You are booting below 200 to get full pat? I dont think that memorey can take full pat much over 200fsb.Try tighter timings or more vdimm.
got the pat working now. systool did the trick - clockgen was the one making my system freeze.
i can get fsb 213-215 - 2750-2800 mhz in 1:1, superpi at 26 secs. Vcore is 1,4v - think any higher will make temps go 50+ (im on stock cooling).
So - anyone knows of a waterblock, that will fit without modding ???
Ok you really confused me now!!! I'm going to go tweak this but your saying if I boot at 199, with mem set at 333 (I have DDR500) that raising it to the FSB I normally run at of 230, will net in excess of DDR400? I'm confused on what you are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
Anyhow going to go play with that setting some for shytes and giggles
I thought if you set mem to 400, you got 1:1 so as I increased FSB to 230, my Memory OC'd to 460... or am I missing something?
Yes if you set your mem to 400 it gives 1/1 but if you boot at 199 with mem at 333 you get a 4/5 ratio cpu/mem.Ill show screenshot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunin
Why not boot at 199 with memory set at auto? That way you will have 1:1 with tightest timings possible.
Does 199 and auto give you 1/1?And do you get full pat?Quote:
Originally Posted by malkekoen
Heres the screen at 199 and 333.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...43809409TdBZbb
Yes, 199 and auto gives me full pat and 1:1. This is the only way I can get 1:1. Both 266 and 333 gives Sisoft mem bandwidth gives approx 4900-5000 at 2-2-2-5.Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
Doing this also sets your DDR at nearly DDR500, so you might want to loosen those mem timings if you try this... (experience dictates you will see many bsod if you don't!)Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
Well...... i would't loosen timings that much. been playing around with it, and tight timings actully gives me a better superpi time than a high fsb. my best setting (so far with stock cooling) is fsb 215, Dram auto (1:1), vcore 1,4, timings 2-2-2-5, whick gives a cpu speed of just under 2800. I'm booting at 199 (not 200 because I have an ATI graphics card).
Please post your settings too.
And by the way - i have had more than 40 bsods getting this far :)...
My DDR500 would run at 460 at 2,3,3,5Quote:
Originally Posted by malkekoen
with uping to 500, I had to go the spec'd 3,4,4,8 to start with... now I'm playing with max FSB for stability with these new timings!
I killed some TCC5 on this mb that did 6-3-3-2 at 255fsb on 2.85V, The spd thingy might fix it ut I dont have another mb setup right now to fix them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunin
Hi, Here is my CT-479 mod :rolleyes:
http://misokgb.szm.sk/ct-479/1.jpg
;)
LOL I did something very similar, but I just ended up removing the big plastic socket and bending the pins some 70degrees and the result is the same
Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
Sorry to challenge this, but I've easily manage to enable full-PAT - or at least something that ctiaw says it is - on P4P800SE - with the normal P4P8X bios trick with setting the FSB at 133 and memory at 266 before each flash. I've competed then head-to-head with a IC7 at 285MHz 1:1 (it won't even boot with other memory divisors) and had a bit better results with the Asus in unbuffered memory benchmarks. I might agree that it is not PAT, but there is definitely something that works better.
Beleave me.....There is NO WAY to beat ABIT IC7 with even the ASUS P4C800E-Deluxe(full PAT-Turbo).....Try to play with the IC7 at:Quote:
Originally Posted by caligula
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and at 1:1 with 2 x BH-x ram modules and you'll remember me.....;)
My PM 730 watercool and no Mods!:sofa:
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/854...kord2ke.th.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayk-Freak
wow
highest 730 I've seen on conventional cooling - well done :clap:
Impressive indeed, you using a RAMDISK or any software tweaks to get those numbers, ur nearly a secod faster than me for the same settings :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayk-Freak
not badQuote:
Originally Posted by Mayk-Freak
My watercooled (but water -12), full of mods (CT, mobo)
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/7...23s484b2zg.jpg
I'm quite happy with my rig by now... however I can't get over the feeling that a better memory and gpu would make me even more happy...
Would the 2gb xms 4000pt be a good choice or do we have some better 2gb mem's out there?
I'm also considering the xfx 7800gs 'xt' and upgrade my other agp rig with my present x800xl...
btw... does any mobo support the 479ct and pci-e? ahaahh... the p4gd1 or the p4gpl-x... but how about the multiplier and vcore then...?
locked multi in the bios
no pic / x lock
1.7v for cpu in the bios
Very nice, but my P4GD1 with no mods and PM730 watercooled:poke::Quote:
Originally Posted by yotomeczek
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2...pisupi18ni.jpg
:YIPPIE:
Quite high voltages youre having guys. :O
I can get my 740@2900 with air and 1.6v at bios. And cause it's P4C800-E Deluxe, real voltages are something like 1.55v. :/ Can't get any higher without mods, but i think this is enough. :)
But mine witnh 2x256 - Yours 2x512 ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayk-Freak
and I have no mods :buddies:Quote:
Originally Posted by yotomeczek
ok - your's better :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayk-Freak
Hallo guys. I have Dothan and now i will looking for mobo.
There are only 2 mb P4c800-Deluxe vs P4P800 SE. Only P4P 800 SE is possible buy in shops. P4C800-deluxe have a better chipset ( maybe a little faster?) but im not sure if works this mobo with Ocz booster.
Which mobo its better?
Thx
P4C is better and the OCZ booster works:DQuote:
Originally Posted by ex.treme
HeheQuote:
Originally Posted by Mayk-Freak
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/3...23s219y0fq.jpg
Still WC (water -2) :banana:
Hi Everyone,
I used a lot of information in this long thread for my system, which is not a common combination here. Pentium-M 705 (Banias 1.5G@400M FSB) + CT-479 + P4P800-VM. So, although it may not be interesting to the Dothan users here, I thought it is worthwhile to add my experience.
You might ask why Banias when the latest and greatest is Dothan (or Core Duo actually). Because I found a $50 deal at mwave several weeks ago. Then, I needed a MB to build a Media Center PC, and there came P4P800-VM(newegg refurb) and CT-479 (zipzoomfly). I also bought a MATX Athenatech case with 180W power supply. I started with setting the FSB at 533 MHz on CT-479. Used the default heatsink of CT-479 with Arctic Silver 5. When the system first posted, it reported FSB as 400 MHz on the screen and in the BIOS. There was no indication that the FSB was 533 MHz. I tried the u-wire trick to set the FID to 533 but the post screen and BIOS did not indicate any success. So I removed the u-wire and left the 533 MHZ setting on the CT-479 adapter, and continued with installing the OS. After Windows XP installation was completed, to my surprise, I was greeted with a 2GHz Pentium-M running at 533 MHz FSB. Apparently, BIOS was only reporting the processor specs not the actual applied frequency. That was good news, I was happy but not for long. The stability tests using Prime95 were failing after several minutes and it was not a CPU heating problem or related to memory. I had to increase the vcore but BIOS VID change had no effect and the software I used, namely EIST and RMClock was also not effective in increasing the voltage (though they can decrease the voltage). So, for the second time, I used u-wire, this time for VID mod. The default voltage of this Banias is 1.484v, using P1, p2, p3 pins high. The best option seemed as setting p3 low to achieve 1.612v. After booting with the new VID (1.612v) I saw in CPUZ that the actual voltage was 1.58v and everything was stable in this case. Also, the CPU temperature under load was not exceeding 56C.
I tested to go higher than 2 GHz (using Clockgen) but it was not stable beyond 2.1GHz. I have settled at 2GHz with a safety limit and in the final configuration I used 166MHz DDR frequency (single channel) which was slightly faster than 133MHz (1:1). And finally, the SuperPI 1M is 49.5 seconds. By using RMClock I was also able to activate Speedstep, it worked perfectly by scaling the system between 800MHz(6x133)@1v and 2GHz(15x133)@1.58v depending on the workload.
Please let me know if I can supply any further information or I am not aware of something that can increase my overclock. I will eventually use dual channel when I can buy the other stick.
Cheers and thanks to everyone for all the information I found here.:toast:
Summary:
Pentium-M 705 (Banias 1.5G@400M FSB)
overclocked to 2.0G@533M FSB using jumpers on CT-479
u-wire VID mod P3 high->low, 1.484v->1.612v (motherboard supply 1.58v)
P4P800-VM 1017 BIOS
CT-479 adapter set at 533MHz
Activate Speedstep using RMClock
single channel 512MB @DDR333
SuperPI-1M : 49.5 seconds
the ct-479 jumpers don't actually set fsb :stick:
(only 1.5v VCCA)
cant work out why it would do that....
I disagree..:stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
For both my Celeron M (350 and 360) setting jumpers on CT479 to 133 made them boot at 133xMP. I can see no other explanation than the jumpers making this happen (Auto for FSB)..
maybe just 400fsb chips then as my 730,750 or 760 didn't change to 100fsb when I set 400fsb jumpers... (and I know for a fact no one elses did..)Quote:
Originally Posted by TL1000S
Same.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
I have the same experience with my P4P800-VM--with jumpers set to 533 on the CT-479, it shows my 1.6 P-M during the boot, but in Windows it's shown running at 2.13. It just an issue with the BIOS showing the rated CPU speed, not the actual.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
I did not set 133 FSB (actually it is not available) in the P4P800-VM BIOS, and the CPU is running at 133 FSB, although its spec is 400FSB. This was only possible with the jumpers on CT-479 since I did not use any software for FSB overclocking either.
I attached a picture of CPUZ window, FYI.
There are a few boards that don't report any speed at all, not only boards for "dothans".. and those that do often reports "rated" speed (as P4P800-VM).Quote:
Originally Posted by hmsrolst
Regarding "dothan FSB133-samples" (7n0) it may seem as a proof that setting the jumpers to "FSB100" and the "chips" still running at FSB133 ("Auto") indicates the jumpers have no function. :confused:
hi,
I did not post for a long time!
just to report that my dothan 730 can handle now @2600 (before 2.46)with vcore set to 1.55v thxs to my winbond BH5 (corsair xms3500C2 rev.1.1, 2 sticks of 256Mo)) sync. on. My corsair 3200XL don't like sync. on (compeled to use ratio 5:4)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TL1000S
This is what I understand: Since the jumpers are on the socket adapter its only function can be modifying the FID of the CPU. Changing the FSB frequency according to the modified FID depends on the mainboard and BIOS. In some cases BIOS do not change the FSB regardless of what CT-479 sets the FID with the jumpers (especially if the FSB is underclocked), and, in my case, the FID reported by CT-479 is respected by BIOS (FSB is overclocked).
Following from my previous post, I used clockgen to increase the FSB to 166MHz (above 175 is not possible even with lower CPU multipliers), and kept memory frequency at 166 MHz. Memory ratio is 1:1 and CPU multiplier is 12x at 166 FSB compared to 4:5 and 15x at 133 FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage
Running the processor at 2GHz and memory at 166MHz in both cases, 166FSB is 7% faster than 133FSB.
SuperPI at 166 FSB: 46.1 sec
SuperPi at 133 FSB: 49.5 sec.
But clockgen has a conflict with Speedfan. When I try to start both of them from Startup in Start menu, Clockgen do not work. I tried starting one after the other in both ways and I am using the latest version of Speedfan which was supposed the fix this conflict but the conflict still happens. Does anyone know how to fix this problem? I have removed Speedfan from Startup for now.
I need u-wire mod on p4gpl-x with ct479.
VCORE 1.6V is more than i need.
Please look on these pictures, if i'm right. i want vcore 1.462V. http://www.volny.cz/eagletime/oc/u_wire.jpg
http://www.volny.cz/eagletime/oc/vcore_table.jpg
thank you for answer.
I have a strange problem with my p4gpl-x boards....
one is Ok you may adjust Vcore with no problems, it was bought 2 months ago.
the other one.... well, all is the same, but no option of Vcore, eventhough I have flashed the same bios 0401 on both, even copied the bios from the one I can change to the one that I can´t.... no way.....
it really bugs me, because I have a 730 which does 2.4 with 1.5V.
the PCs are completely the same configuration: P4GPL-X, 2GB of kingston hyperX, X850XT ViVo 256mb, 300GB and 160gb HDDs, and then the one OK has EATX PSU 580W and the other has ATX PSU 550W
I do not think it is the issue of the PSU... but....
Oh and guys... how do I install windos on that mobo with sata drive.... I just do not remember, it copies files and then again and again from the beginning, it seems it just does not see the drive when it has to boot.... and I do not remember how did I manage with the other machine 2 months ago. help please.
Oh then another issue... how do I lock PCI and PCIE frequencies????.... it just does not seem to work at alll...
hi,
just replace mycorsair xl(512x2) by 2 sticks of OCZ GE 512x2
Now, i can run in synchronous mode with my 730@2.60 (vcore 1.55, vddr 2.85):)
looks correct but then again, I'm not certain...Quote:
Originally Posted by Krimi 2000
@bcn: windows installs fine on a SATA drive for me without any need for anything extra.
do uwire mod for vcore...
You need to create a floppy with the sata drivers. Then load the windows disk and press F6 to install the drivers from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by bcn
but you don't....Quote:
Originally Posted by bnice7
lawrywild thanks, but is there somebody who knows it 100%?Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
tbh, I would bet on it that it would work.
so I guess you just got to try it
thanx for answers
1. as there is only ICH6 SATA from intel, so no drivers on floppy nor on CD guys.
2. I have found that it is no use of formating whem installing windows, cause it just formats and then it does not see the drive after restart....
3. created 100Gb (caus windows sees only up to 127Gb before SP2) NFTS partition with partition magic and then it was recognized by windows install after it restartedduring install. guys what is the differece then, it should format the partition in the same manner.... besides when it tells you should use SATA drives only after SP2 (in the manual).
well, after SP2 install I have resozed partition up to full 300GB with partition manager again from DOS.
but I cannot find out how to get that Vcore option working on that board!
actually just realised that the uwire mod to 1.468v wouldn't work
however, a mod to 1.404v would be fine, just VID2 to VSS
where is that on a pin-map? :) is there any picture and table vof voltages?
Here, I annotated the pics for you
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1141497281
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1141497281
I know, i was thinking about it and my my idea was bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
1.404 is better than nothing. ;)
but is possible give 1.436V. Vid 2 and Vid 1 to VSS, but with two u-wire.
yup or 3 u-wires for 1.452 ;)
does that 1 on the table means connect to VSS???
to change from 1 to 0, you need to connect the relevant VID to VSS
Respect! How did you made the water so cold?:wiggle:Quote:
Originally Posted by yotomeczek
Anti-freeze and the radiator out in the snow? (Thinking on a setup like that myself.. It's -26 C here.. and "a couple of meters" of snow outside my window).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayk-Freak
:cool:
heheheh :D
Hi guys, I've just come in to contact with a Dothan 735 i'd like to play about with and need a smidge of help with all this. I had a read of the first page but it all seems a little over my head as this is all a bit more complicated to the overclocking i've done before.
From what I understand I need the grab the old CT-479 to use it on a 478 platform but need to get a compatible ASUS motherboard and BIOS to be able to get it up and running but some boards lack certain features like voltage control, but that can apparently be changed through CPUMSR though only up to about 1.38v, however if I want more i'd need to do the wire trick to enable up to 1.58v or something along those lines.
Any pointers or recommendations would be supoib.
Cheers :D
I'm looking for Afudos version v1.16b. This link http://www.akiba-pc.com/Afudos_116b.zip seems to be dead.
Anywhere else that I could get it from ?
I uploaded it to my webspace
http://home.comcast.net/~siki3d/AFUDOS.zip
I used the same method described here ... it worked like a charm ! :hehe:
30 degrees in idle - 42 degrees full load and a plus of 30MHz for benching :D (no vmods of any kind :banana: )
25.312 s in SPi
for better contact with the core, I bended the clip & kept it in its original orientation(had to drill 2 holes)
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1...ting8fw.th.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?i...sc002109xe.jpg
I have a little problem here.
Dothan 760 (533) + P4P800SE (new ) +Ct 479.. set 133 fsb, 2x256 BH5- 5-2-2-2, try 7-3-3-2.5, bios 1009.
I have little time to testing, but cannot get Prime stable. I set up with eist + setfsb (new clockgen SuX) 10x200 run Prime.. but fails after 5 min.
Above 175 fsb fail Prime too. Its some cheat how get stable? :-)
Is some setting in bios how i make wrong?
thx
@ex.treme
Lower the multiplyer to 8, then try running prime !
if not give it more volts
1.6v atleast.
Are you remembering to lock AGP/PCI? Have you tried priming at stock settings? If you fail that, you might try testing your RAM with memtest to make sure it's not defective.Quote:
Originally Posted by ex.treme
I have feeling that nothing to do with v core. Its default as frequency = Pm 760 = 2 ghz.
I dont know how find if ist agp/pci lock?
At bios i setup agp/pci 66/33
Although a 760 runs default at 2GHz, I was suggesting you see if it will prime at 15x133 rather than 10x200.Quote:
Originally Posted by ex.treme
The BIOS setting you have is correct for locking AGP/PCI, although supposedly it doesn't work at exactly 200MHz with Radeon cards (but that wouldn't explain the problem at 175 MHz FSB).
So i must set 201 to activate agp/pci lock?
I have Radeon 9600, with 175x15 i dont know exactly, was a minute and default v core.
I have not time testing. Tomorow i try another setups'.
thx
2625 (175x15) is pretty high with default voltage. Try 201x10 or 133x15.Quote:
Originally Posted by ex.treme
I think you're fairly lucky to get 2.0Ghz stable - though having said that for a Pentium M your vcore is quite high. I have a P-M (banias) 1.3GHz that will happily work at 10 x 180 and will last a very short while at 9 x 200... I've had 4 1.3GHz Banias Pentium Ms pass through my hands as well as 4 x various speed Banias Celeron Ms (1.2 - 1.5 GHz) and all of them but 1 chip have topped out at ~ 1.8GHz (the other did 2.0GHz OK for ~ 2 hours in prime 95)... The Dothan based Celeron chips I've used are better but bizarely enough - because of the RAM/FSB ratios available I can actually get a higher FSB clock on my i855 board than on various CT479/i865 combos I've tried. Next step - unless a Yonah board shows up *soon* - would be to order a P4GPL-X mobo ASAP before *everywhere* runs out of them...Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage
What RAM ratio / speed are you selecting in the BIOS? Like the CPU speed actual vs default speed display issues in the BIOS the Asus boards I've used show 266/333/400 as RAM speeds but these are actually ratios... Unless you can boot @ 400Mhz FSB you won't get the RAM @ 1:1 and that will limit your overclock a lot unless you have some *good* DDR...Quote:
Originally Posted by ex.treme
fsb 133-ddr 266
I look, that pci/agp lock dont working. At bios is setup 33/66. But at 200 fsb with set fsb or clockgen is is 100/50 . How i can fixed it?
Have you tried setting all of these in the BIOS--201x10, 33/66 and DRAM FREQ to AUTO?Quote:
Originally Posted by ex.treme
No, at win -my fault. At bios is working ok. 201x10 stable.
One question- blue scren with "MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION" is cpu or Win need reinstall? At prime load 60`C.
why are your guys temp so low? are you ducting in cold air and do you guys keep the cpu at 2.8ghz or around?
i have mine at 1.73ghz now but plan on overclocking when it gets a bit colder here./
Alot of the people with the big clock speeds and low temperatures are using water and exotic cooling.Quote:
Originally Posted by elyrly
PS, I'd also like to add that I've ordered a 730 chip and adapter for use with a P4C800-E Deluxe, and will be mounting a Zalman 7000AlCu cooler to it. Hopefully I'll post up my overclock results in a couple of days.
Thanks for this thread everyone, it's been quite a good read. :)
I've installed the 730 and adapter with stock heatsink and old Arctic silver 2. Then booted into Windows with fsb @ 201 in bios.
Pack date 03/31/2005, Batch 7510A695, JSL86G Philippines
Everything seems to be working fine 32sec for 1M SuperPi. The temperature is 52C idle, 54C load using SysTool stress test.
I'm reluctant to try the chip any faster because I'm not sure how hot these chips are supposed to run. Surely not 100C
Since there is only a 2C between idle and load, is there any point using a Zalman 7000AlCu on this chip? Is there anything to be gained?
From my experience with a number of these chips (730, 750, 760), running at the speeds you are with a Zalman 7000 results in load temps in the 40-45 range. (Of course, ambient is a factor also.) You shouldn't have a problem taking the 730 to higher speeds. At some point, you'll find its limits, but I'd be really surprised if it overheated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidone
Are you sure this is CPU temp?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidone
I've had "a few" Dothan chips and they show quite a difference between idle and load.. ecpecially with original cooler.
All my i865/i875 boards (5) shows pretty much same temps.. only 2 P4GPL-X show a bit on the "high side".. but the boards shows about 15-20 degrees difference between idle and full laod (20-30min prime -small FFT's - at least)
52c idle seems way to high. even my P4GPL-X with u-wire (1.55-1.6 Vcore) shows about 42-45 idle.. at worst (with Zalman CSP7000AlCu). Here full load temp is about 20 degrees higher... but I use eist to reduce VCore to 1.5 as my 740M do not respond any higher.. This keep load temp below 60.
My 710M idles at 25, full load at 33-35 (VCore 1.375).. in a P4C800-E dlx.
I had the same value temp when using stock cooler. but when i switch to 7000Cu: idle is now at 38°C, full load 45°C(725@2400)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidone
My temp was 61 at Prime 95 with stock cooler. I change fan ( put 92 mm TT )
and temps are 56 at Load.
Well you were correct about the overheating not being a problem, this chip won't go beyond 209fsb and the temperature isn't noticably higher. I booted at 201 and then used systool to go to 212 when a reboot occured. I then tried 210 and got BSOD. No errors at 209 so far. Also tried booting at 205 but still get reboot at 212.Quote:
Originally Posted by hmsrolst
I'd have liked some more, but anthing over 200 is fine.
The temperatures are showing between 51C and 55C now (EDIT: but only when GPU is pushing heat into the case)Quote:
Originally Posted by TL1000S
Yes I sure, I setup using my old P4 2.8 first, which showed more normal cpu temperature variation on the same sensor.
Maybe the arctic silver 2 is past it's best, I've had it for years. Or perhaps the heatsink mounting could be better.
Thanks for that. After reading the horror stories about chipping the core, I was hoping to avoid using the 7000AlCu. I've read the german links about mounting the 7000, and have flipped the center bracket, and now have some 30mm bolts. I just need convicing that it's actually neccessary to use it.Quote:
Originally Posted by pvhk
If the temperatures drop by say 8C is there an effect on the max overclock?
you wouldn't chip your cpu, i have a 7000cu on it now and it works fine,
Hi! I think my P4C800E-Deluxe has gone fubar on me so I'm looking for a replacement.. Not sure if I wanna exchange my graphics card just yet, so I'm thinking another agp board.. Looks like the P4C series have dissapeared from the shops, so I'm thinking about a P4P800 SE.
Is this an okey board from your experience? I have my 740 at some place over 2,8 GHz 24/7 on my P4C, can I achieve this on a P4P800 SE also?
And lastly: Is the the P4P800 SE also called P4P800 GD? Looks like they are listed as the same?
I really don't want to make a bad purchase :)
Ok, this is my final coment on this chip and thread unless someone has questions.
Mounting the 7000AlCu was much easier than expected. Temperatures dropped by 11 or 12C, and fsb achieved was 2 higher. Raising the voltage gave no fsb gains at all, only higher temperatures. I would have suspected problems with other components, but they run fine at 225fsb with an old P4 2.8GHz.
Best SuperPI 1M of 29 seconds.
I'm going to leave the fsb @ 208 x 12, turn down the voltage and fan speed and go play some games.
Once again, nice thread and thanks for the help.:)
Hi, I have just got myself a 7000AlCu and from what I have managed to find out, fitting it is simply a case of mounting the clips upside down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidone
Is there anything else I need to know about or do, before attempting this.
Any help would be appreciated, cheers.
JudgeC
Just be careful and take it easy. Do a prelimenary mount, enter BIOS and check temps, fasten mount a bit, check temps and so on...Quote:
Originally Posted by JudgeC
That way, you dont crush the core for no reason :toast:
I've got a Dothan 770 on a P4P800 SE with the zalman 7000( all copper)
Yes, turn the clips upside down and use some screws from an old fan mounted on a heatsink. You know the type, where they just thread into the heatsink itself like on an old AMD socket A or an old P3.
Here's a great page to save, translated from the orginal German:
http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools
I get 28C at idle and 38C at 100% load at 2587mhz so far. Mods needed to go higher. Remember, do NOT crank down those screws or you WILL crack the core. This is a time for good light and patience.
Tighten one side a little then the other until it is snug and the HS doesn't move. Patience and the end result is worth the time.
I should add: The screw placement, will save you some time, one side will be in the outer hole and the other will be in the inner hole to line up properly. The picture just shows one side I beleive. Good Luck!
Sounds like good advice, I don't want to crush this new 750.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrw
I am hoping that when I get the Zalman on it, I can get it to 2700Mhz or a little higher. I can't quite get there on the stock cooler, although I was careful not to put too much voltage through it.
My old 740 hits a wall at 2540Mhz (On stock cooler), so its got to be an improvement over that.
Cheers
JudgeC
Some very useful information, Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
I see that is not important Zalman or other Cu coolers. I have stock cooler with 760 and does 2600@1.475v. I was trying some Cu heatsink for Piv and got only 30-50 mhz over.
Only thing i was changed is fan with 92mmTT. Since is trully "Incredibly quiet desktop" .
Mind if I ask what your idle and load temps are?
I benched my 730 @ 1.6vcore with 7700Cu.Quote:
Originally Posted by ex.treme
You need to feed it more juice to see a significant increase :)