bought 3 whats? p4p800se?Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
:EDIT: nm guess you mean dothans.. yeah you are sick :D lol
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bought 3 whats? p4p800se?Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
:EDIT: nm guess you mean dothans.. yeah you are sick :D lol
3 Dothans yes :banana:
But I'm having problems with the 1009003 bios. Normally I flash in windows because I don't have a working floppydrive right now. The asus update thingy keeps telling me that the date in the bios is later than the current one :confused: and that I have to flash from DOS. I don't know what this exactly means but I changed the date in windows a few times, I'm not sure if this is what they really mean.
Does someone have an idea? It flashes the 004 bios just fine.
basically the windows version will not let u flash to an older bios.
u would have to boot from a floppy disk into dos,
Alternativ ... maybe a bootable image of cd,
not sure if that will work tho.
I'll do some hexediting then. Changing the bios version with a hexeditor shouldn't be too hard. I'll try winflash first.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...3/P1060004.jpg
Do you like my foot?
One of them has been opened and there is a chance it's dead, I got it for free :woot:
oh YES IT LETS you do that! you just need to check the option to allow it in preferences or options or whatever the section of it is there :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ibby
Thank you, I'll take a look at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bcn
The cpu I mentioned above works btw. I'm not going to tell you the price because I still need to sell 4 of 'em.
omg what kind of deal did you get on those? I assume you bought them all together........Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
1 is just from a normal store, 206 euro plus shipping. The price on the other 4 was better, I actually only paid for 3 and the 4th I got 4 free because the box was opened. I'm still hitting a wall at 2,6-2,7ghz though. I guess it is not too bad. Well I have 3 more cpu's to test, hope I can find one that does 2.8ghz+
:woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by bcn
maybe i didnt look hard enough :slapass: :nono: :slap:
Am I luck?
750 2720mhz @ 1.36v air cooled and 247 fsb 2-2-2-5 @ 3.3v
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9...segs8zq.th.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7...27209na.th.jpg
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8671254
Yes, You Have Luck!
Strange,Quote:
Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal
PM733 is an ULV 1.1 Ghz :confused:
Really good one :clap:
Quote:
Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal
hey how much did it cost you that 733? :)
Wow my second Dothan loves high fsb's, it just needed an hour of burning in. With this thing I can boot into windows at 235mhz fsb and can set it to minimum 260mhz in windows, I have to test if it can do higher. Very odd that it now can boot at 235mhz fsb while it couldn't do that with my first Dothan :confused:
My first Dothan could do 245mhz fsb in windows :confused:
hey guys Cpuz's screen was bugged take a look of 01's screen and u c the rite 750
I have to say that it's a very good result. The Dothans I've tested both crapped out at about 2.6ghz. I still have 3 more to go :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal
Do you also have the "problem" that a certain speed is prime stable and only 1 or 2mhz higher fsb crashes the system in a second? With crashing I mean rebooting or freezing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
if i hit the 250 my sistem go to crash 4 sure and i go to windows all the time running with 190x14
i´ll try some prime with 2700 @ 1.36v
and good luck with yours Dothans
hey has anyone then tried LV and ULV dothans? would they works in a board? i mean they would get higher voltage which is better :) but would they boot and all?
I heard the system doesn't boot :(
That seems to be the typical behavior of DothansQuote:
Originally Posted by alexio
I've got the same thing with the two one i had
:( From Asus Q&A :Quote:
Originally Posted by bcn
5. Does CT-479 support Intel Pentium M "Low" & "Ultra Low" CPU ?
No, currently It DOES NOT support Intel Pentium M "Low"& "Ultra Low" CPU.
Maybe in a next bios , but does not seems to me that Asus is putting some efford to release a new bios for Dothans . :rolleyes:
Ok cool ;)
I'm now running prime at 9*280mhz, no mods (yet), not bad at all :)
Really nice :toast: .Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
What Vcore are you using ? Is it a 730 ?
It's a 740, I have 5 of them, this is the second one I test. This is without thermal paste so the temp will drop a little maybe increasing overclocking when I use paste.
Vcore is 1.35v real. Max I can do is about 2600mhz on this vcore and I don't think anything more really helps.
I somehow have a feeling that this cpu's like burning in. Atleast I somehow broke the maximum fsb lock after a while. Now lets see if my Dothan and chipset like 300+ fsb.
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
If you find another one that does (280x9) , let me know . Would you sell one of those :D . Hard to find chips that accept more than 250 fsb
I would love to but I don't like to ship all the way from europe to Brazil. If I can't sell them in The Netherlands I will let you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by toledo
I forgot to say , i`m in the US untill end of august (maybe september)for business . :D .Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
Let me know if you would like to do that , anyway .....thanks .
I can do 9*295mhz now :toast:
I'm now running checkdisk because data got corrupted. Finding the max of a Dothan means you get a lot of crashes because 24/7 stable is very close to a speed that crashes the system.
Next try will be 9*300mhz. At 8* multiplier I can't even boot and the system freezes if I try this in EIST; at 7* multiplier I can not achieve a high fsb.
I heard that the lowest multi that really works is 9 ,anything below this just does not work well , i don`t know if it is true .Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
9x295 :slobber:
On my P4P800SE only MP 9+ work.Quote:
Originally Posted by toledo
Those high Fsb are motherboard depndend I can reach 305 with clockgen not 1:1 of course :p
So true...Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
I've concluded that the "fiddling" with MP and FSB is pointless other than to get the few last tenths in SuperPi.. and a few more points in 3DMark01..etc..
At some stage it just "hits the wall" as I've stated in other post(s). For me..with my P4P800 SE and Dothan 730..on good aircooling.. this is 2550Mhz.. It will bench SuperPi at 2660..but no 3D-benches will finish at 2580+..
I've also concluded that VCore over 1.50 is worthless (Bios 1009.004 alllows 1.60..., Bios 1008 gives 1.55)..
As of writing I'm "priming" the chip at 2550@1.50VCore.. for 24++ hours..
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Originally Posted by toledo
yes it is true
how about to the uk :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
Maybe I'll do that ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ibby
I've tested 2 Dothan 740's from the same box now and they do EXACTLY the same.
9*295 = 2,65ghz
10*265 = 2,65ghz
11*241 = 2,65ghz
This is one ANY memory divider and they both don't like more than 1,425v. Could this be a mobo related problem :confused:
IMHO, unofficially LV ones should work (but I read some single maybe not so reliable report that does not boot) & should OC nicely (if won´t be there same 180MHz Fsb "barrier" as for C_M is), since would be overvolted by default. While you can not put ULV ones in, since are NOT Fc-Pga package (Fc-Bga instead = no pins!)Quote:
Originally Posted by toledo
I have not seen any result with a 770 chip so far .
Does anyone know anything about this chip ?
all at the same speeds :nono: surly not all of these cpus max out at the same region ....Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
:slapass:
At 1,425v they did. I found out I need 1,5v for 2,7ghz (13*208) on my second cpu. I can't provide screenies now because I'm running in diagnostic mode because windows is screwed. In diagnostic mode it will not recognize a usb stick. I can't use more than 1,5v because my temp rises to 70 dregrees C* ( I need to put some thermal paste on :) ).
I will make a 9*300 Prime95 screenshot if it can do it
ummmmm - I get around 70C load at 800MHz 0.7V cooled by a ramsink (a little tiny 1.5x0.5cm copper one).Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
how do you get the temps so high?
what kind of cooling is that? at like 1.7V 2.66GHz full load mine will never go above 25C ('cept summer - ambient now 18C).
Stock cooler without thermal paste ;)
I don't know if I can trust the temsensor even a little bit.
770m is a bad-ass chip. They can run super high fsb at any ghz or multi, unlike the 780es.....or at least the one I have. A 770 with really high fsb and tight timings on p4c can match the 780's perfromance on ln2. My 770 is the current single card WR holder for x850xtpe in 3dmark 03, 3dmark 01, aquamark3, and #2 single card behind macci in 3dmark 05. Had all these runs been on my solid container, they would be much higher no doubt....Quote:
Originally Posted by toledo
#2 single x850xtpe 05'
WR single x850xtpe 3dmark 03
WR single x850xtpe 3dmark 01
WR aquamark3 single 850xtpe
Also close to 19sec with it for sp1m......with some tweaks I recently learned, that sp1m is mid to high 19's:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/.../102678739.jpg
and here is a quick 8m...with higher clocks and better tweaking, it's prolly closer to 4 min easy:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/.../102245743.jpg
I saw your 01 score some time ago - you're not just the world record - you're like 4k above 2nd place...Quote:
Originally Posted by k|ngp|n
acutally my bad......I used 760m for 03 and 05 runs :)
01, am3, and pi were on the 770m. Thought for sure I re-ran them with the 2.13ghz chip, but I guess not.
Very nice :slobber: .Quote:
Originally Posted by k|ngp|n
How far this chips (PM770) go on air ?
It did around 2.8ghz for benching with the ct-479 aluminum cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by toledo
So , for a air cooler maybe a 760 chip is a better choice , right ?Quote:
Originally Posted by k|ngp|n
Quote:
Originally Posted by k|ngp|n
Just ordered a 770 and it is nice to hear good things about the 770,2.8 with ct-479 cooler soundz good
my best shoot
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8...n250fsb5fv.jpg
My 4th Dothan is really funny. Prime is running all the time while explorer.exe and system services keep crashing :D
Ik can do 2,8ghz now but at that speed explorer.exe keeps crashing, this is with the 13* multiplier. With the 11* multiplier I have a hard time doing more than 2,65ghz and with the 12* multiplier 2,7ghz is just about stable.
I must say the Dothan is the weirdest cpu i have ever OC'd.
Jep agree, 223*12=prime stable for more then 9 hours but sometimes it just freezes or crashes :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
I think prime is the weirdest progam i have ever run . :D . I don`t like it , i`ve seen machines prime stable for days crashing with almost no load in windows .
I found out something strange.
Disabling PAT gives me much better overclocking results at ALL multipliers below 13*. With PAT disabled I can get to the same speed with the 9*, 10*, 11* and 12* multiplier as I can with the 13*. This is really strange because it affects both the 11* and the 12*. At the 12* multiplier I could get nothing stable above 12*225mhz but now I can. Weird thing is that with PAT enabled it CAN do above 225mhz and goes up to 241mhz stable. It IS a motherboard issue I think because i have this problem with ALL cpu's.
I disable PAT by booting at 201mzh instead of 200mhz which I usually use for better performance. Ik think I'm just going to buy a P4C800-E Deluxe and see if that has the same problem.
For anyone having problem with their Dothans at a P4P800 SE, you should try disabling PAT because this helps at ANY multiplier.
Priming at 9*320 now :banana:
hmmm
I also use P4P800 and P4P800SE and I can bench about 9x 320 MHz (air)
but without disabled PAT ;)
http://www.directupload.net/images/0...p/xFyx5YG5.jpg
CB
It is a memory/chipset/Bios problem, not CPU ...Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
Hmmz strange problem, just fixed my vcore. So I put 1.6 on it. Can get
225*12
235*11
235*10
238*9
anyone knows what the hell is going on? ( it's nog my mem, got divider on it ). Or is this just my max? Temps are a bit high so water is going on it tomorrow or tonight, maybe then I will get higher.
( posted this in another topic 2 )
I was about to post my problem, which is very similars to yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor_Sniper
I am running an p4p800se any I seem to be stuckc 215+ FSB. No matter what multiplier I used.
I figure if I can do 215*12, and could easily to 225*11 or 225*9. But I can't.
I've bump up vCore from 1.5 to 1.6, and still nothing.
I can cold boot into windows at 210 day and night. I use clockgen to OC from there.
So does this mean the mobo is having issues? I know RAM is fine.. it is doing 280 right now.
Any insight or suggestions would greatly be appreciated.
SAD
SAD, No, I suspect either the chip itself (almost definately) or the adapters (very slim chance).
2860mhz (10*286) 1.55v, 1.47v real under load, stock aircooling.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../naamloos4.jpg
:banana:
I hope I can get it to run spi 1m at 3ghz :woot:
Hmm.. need to get another chip then :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lithan
Is the Intel m 730 still the chip of choice right now? I have some nice Geil ram, I am trying to push over 300, but w/ my FSB crapping out at 215.. I can only push these babies to 280'ish.
SAD
It's probably the chip. You are sure that PAT is fully disabled?
Manged to get my 730 there on waterQuote:
Originally Posted by alexio
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7...erpi9xv.th.jpg
I can see yours takes a little higher vcore, that makes it harder for me already.
I need a more stable OS than windows xp. My Dothan causes system services to crash while it is happily running prime95 small FFT's, this is NOT my motherboard or memory and I'm 100% sure about that. I'm going to try win2k pro but I will use server 2003 in some time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuAsDu
Im suspecting it's a common problem with them though. I've had two and seen at least five others with the same problem.
That max with 1.6v set. rem that it droops to 1.51v under load too :(Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
That was with winXP and no tweaks at all, it even has anti-virus running and Firewall . I have the screen shot of full screen to prove it too !
I think with win2003 and tweaks I could maybe pull a 24sec at 3GHz, but I leave that to the serious benchers :)
Stock air, Windows XP pro, 1,6v in bios for a little more stability over 1,55v.
PAT: DISABLED, I have to fix this problem first. I'll try some 13* mp 1:1 2-2-2-5 2,9ghz runs today.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../naamloos8.jpg
25 secs on stock air, now how's that :banana: :banana: :banana:
actually it's 26 :) But nice!
the original superpi would show 25sec ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor_Sniper
but very nice clock for inbox :)
i managed to get 25.240 sec at about the same clocks with p4p800dlx..
i got lower number mby because i had 1 gig ram..
I need win2k or server 2003 and PAT enabled but PAT is killing my overclock somehow.
How do you turn off pat in bios? I set performace mode on standard but pat is on ...
Boot at 201mhz fsb or higher instead of 200mhz. CPU-Z shows it wrong. You have to take a look at what everest says. Enabling or disabling PAT with 865 tweaker doesn't work.
*This is with the 865PE chipset. I think PAT keeps enabled with the 875 chipset above 200mhz fsb. I don't know how to turn if off really. I think it is best to set it at "standard" and then use everest to read if it's on of off.
tweaker works... If I say pat disabled it's not shown in everest and if I say enabled it says pat enabled...
Now I'm stuck @:
223*12
240*11
242*10
260*9
Anyone knows how 2 get higher?
This is exactly where I was hitting a wall with PAT enabled.
I would flash a P4P800-SE bios in it if I were you so you are 100% sure that PAT is disabled above 200mhz fsb. You can always flash back if it doesn't work any better.
Hmmz will try that, do I have 2 disable bootblock in order 2 flash?Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
I don't know, I think you just have to flash all blocks. There is a guy around here who was running with a P4P bios at a P4C motherboard. His board is for sale right know.
Ask him, he knows.
Hmm, I now can get
223*12
240*11
265*10
265*9
270 superpi isnt stable and gives me erros, if I clock back ( clockgen ) every speed gives me errors :S
Razor u must close and open spi again.
Just want to point that the new Intel price cuts put the 740 at the same price of the 730, the typical move the slowly phase out the slowest chip of the family.
Seems like right now in Europe the price for both the cpus is adjusted at 199-203euros.
I've got the CT sitting in my desk, trying to find a solution for the MCX478 mounting (and yep, no dothan yet, prob only in september-october).
Yeah its 200$ usd for 730 and 202$ for 740 at Ewiz.
Just because of crappy mem it isn't very good, but new is on the way:
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8379/22227fm.jpg
This is the best I've got so far.
Seems like I have a wall at 2,72ghz with stock cooler :(
1.6v was no different?Quote:
Originally Posted by NiCKE^
mine did 2640 with 1.5v and 2703 with 1.6v
Doesn't really matter how much volt I give it, it won't go over 2,72ghz superpi 1m without freezing. Maybe a better cooling solution?
I could prime for 9h till it froze with 2,7ghz and 1.46v I believe.
How hot are your dothans? And with what cooling? Mine is 35 idle and 47 stress @ 1.6 vcore with water. @ 1.5 vcore it's 31 idle and 41 stress. I think if I could mount it tighter my temps would be better.
you have 15mhz better chip than mine :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NiCKE^
but.. with water, i gained 45mhz.. 2748mhz, to be exact.
with 5C water, i could bench at 2.9ghz
with ~11c water and 200w peltier, i could bench at 3ghz, but 3006 would crash :)
so if better means colder, then it would help you..
of course - even better aircooling will increase overall stability at 2.7ghz..
I got the stock air so I got pretty high temps like 60C full load at 1.45v and 49C idle.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=35475
is my record :P
Mine is capping out around 2.7 alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by caater
Dothan 730 @ 2846MHz, 258x11 (1.66v real) aircooled
KingstonHX 2x512MB BH-5 @ 258MHz 2-5-2-2 (3.4v real)
P4C800 vdroop, vcore, vdimm
http://www.nordiccrew.com/crusader/s...46_25,140s.gif
Quote:
Originally Posted by nCrusader
thats some major tweaks to get it so low at only 2846mhz :toast:
Any one that wants a higher overclock: You should try to run without the jumper. I'm going to try this myself soon, I got this tip from some one else.
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
Looking at the CT-479, that would be the same as the 400mhz Jumper position since there does'nt seem to be any connection to 2 of the jumpers.
This would make sense as all the jumpers would do is pull down to ground for LOW state, and HIGH state is just NC>
Just take of the jumpers and youre oc would be better ;)
1 gig of ram will usually do the trick :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jericho
More likely the fact that you're running 1:1 2-2-2.. Many of us are running 5:4 2-2-2 or 1:1 2-4-4 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by caater
Quote:
Originally Posted by Waus-mod
My OC stayed exactly the same after removing the jumpers... :(
I'm looking for some good 2x256 for benching only... Anyone knows some? Want 2 spend around 120euro on it.
it is better to post that somewhere else razor... but i think you have to look around in the memmory forum you will know what mem is good for u.
How much is 120euros in usd? Cause I got 2x512 mushy 3500 black (no heatspreaders) that do DDR500 @ 3.1V, DDR560 @ 3.5V. They are currently jst sitting in a box of kingston value doimg nothin'Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor_Sniper
120us$ is 100€ , are you selling those memories with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by wwwww
my mistake sorry :fact: