I just posted on the Abit forum. Lets see if anyone there can shine in on my problem. :)
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I just posted on the Abit forum. Lets see if anyone there can shine in on my problem. :)
hey for the vmod, i saw some post. i know it was mentioned before in the mess of pages. but what type of resistor do i need? 650kohm?
what type of solder did you guys use?
I hope you have really steady hands, have you seen the size of those resistors?
I just started with the board tonight, straight in at 3.6GHz 450x8. The droop is quite bad,
1.53v bios
Idle
1.46-1.49 uguru
1.50 actual
Load.
1.42-1.46 uguru
1.455 actual
And the vcore is solid as a rock, third digit flickers only 0.004/5. The droop doesn't seem to effect the stability. Just took this chip from an Asus Blitz and Formula (both faulty), they needed 1.49v and 1.47v to get 8hrs prime. Early days yet but this board looks like 1.45v will be enough.
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1...tlednd9.th.jpg
Ridiculous... It may have taken a service pack and a few patches to get XP where it needed to be, but for the last few years it's been outstanding. Stable, fast, great driver support, and the best thing MS ever did... And yes it smokes Mac's fantasy OS as well.
I've been through 18 months of Vista beta's and have run the final release for 3 months before I couldn't take that crap any longer. :mad: :mad:
There's a good reason that the government has instructed all agencies to stay clear of Vista, as well as Corporate America has done the same... This POS is no where ready for prime time!
If you are having good luck with it than fine, if you are running current hardware then you really have no idea what it can do until blow that BS OS off the machine and get back to reality... :)
Regards-
Is this a fluke?
I just enabled volume write back cache.
I thought it would only increase burst rate. :shocked:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6730/untitledkr2.png
Shot at 2007-08-20
Sorry I don't know what atto is, but here is hd tune.
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2529/untitledje5.png
Shot at 2007-08-21
Their is a newer raid driver released from Intel, not sure if your using it but see below.
Just a brief update to the original thread/post:-
1) Added more Air Cooler compatability.
2) Added more ram compatability.
3) Updates to the following drivers (See below)
DRIVERS
RAID/AHCI Software - Intel® Matrix Storage Manager v 7.6.0.1011 for 2000/XP/2003/64bit - 2nd August 07 *NEW*
Realtek 8110SC Gigabit Lan V6.73 Driver for Win9x/Me/2000/XP/2003 - 20th August 07 *NEW*
Realtek 8110SC Gigabit Lan V6.196 Driver for Vista 32bit / Vista 64bit - 20th August 07 *NEW*
Realtek High Audio Definition R173 Driver for 2000/XP/2003/64bit - 14th August 07 *NEW*
Realtek High Audio Definition R173 Driver for Vista 32bit/Vista 64bit - 14th August 07 *NEW*
My latest results with IP35-Pro [NO MODS]
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=232331
http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/250...4155861_rs.jpg
hmm lol wonder if those new realtek lan drivers would have fixed my lan dying out of suspend mode all the time. Ohwell i bought a cheapo pcie x1 rosewill, it actually works very well, cpu usage is only 2% while transfering large amounts of data over my network. Although thats at 100/mb, iam to ghetto for gigabit yet
The raid driver listed seems to be for everything but P35 chipsets and ich9r. I didnt see these guys listed in the list of applicable chipsets
Edit: nevermind I see the ich9r listed must of missed it, still dont see P35. Good links though.
No really lol, I was gonna be like :banana: :banana: :banana::banana: my raptors, I'm getting these! :am:
NO, it's not a fluke. I had to do the same (enable write back caching) to go from 153mb/s and 399 burst to this:
3x7200.10's Raid0
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i304/scwam/ghfh.jpg
Hey, guys. Wondering if you guys could tell me if these settings are too much or not enough besides CPU vid and mem voltage
Core Speed ~ 3150MHZ
EXT Clock ~ 350 MHZ
CPUcore+ ~1.31v
DDR2 ~ 2.2V
DDR2 VTT `~ 1.09v
CPU VTT 1.2V `~ 1,24v
MCH 1.25V ~ 1.33V'
ICHIO 1.5V ~ 1.51V
ICH 1.05V ~1.06
EDIT: These Readings are taken from UGuru
Everything is so scattered around in this thread and incomplete in allot of instances its kinda hard to make head or tales!
@ Ace-a-Rue hey man would you mind telling me what that Peg Force X1 is supposed to be set at for our cards, it should be set to disabled correct? Alo I notice I take a almost 500 Point hit in Burst speed on this board compared to my EVGA 680I A1 I was getting 1245 Burst now its like 762 Burst speed is that right to take that kind of hit on these boards?
Also too why do both of my Plextor drives come up as SCSI CDROM device in Device Manager? My Plextor 750 A works without issue but my 230A CDRW X52 does not work and it has a flag next to it in Device Manager I also cannot upgrade the Plextor Firmware either as it says device not installed:confused: Device Manager states Code 10 device cannot start,
Man what is it with all of these friggin Intel Boards since C2D hit they all have more problems than a dog has fleas!
hmmm....
abit not the panacea you thought it would be?
Oh and by the way the volt droop mod works perfectly. 1Kohm 22 turn pot and really steady hands = hardly any droop at all. Set 1.46 gets idle 1.455v to 1.452 at load. Previously 1.53v in bios = 1.455v
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1945/dscf1814oy4.jpg
Well I have gotten the JMicro CD-RW/DVD situation under wraps! I downloaded the latest JMicro drivers and noticed that it gives you the option for Raid SCSI Drivers and Normal IDE Drivers so just installed the IDE Drivers rebooted and couple of problems corrected was even able to update Plextor 230a Firmware and now after reboot it shows as Plextor 230A in Device Manager instead of just Generic CDROM:)
@ Ace-a -Rue hey can you rewind one page and take a look at what I posted and tell me what you think of my settings at current O.C? ....Thank Brother...:toast:
Here are my current clocks please advise if my Voltages are too high on some settings..... please I kinda need help!
Core Speed ~ 3240mhz X9 Multi
ExtClock: ~360
CPU CORE ~ 1.33V
DDR2 ~ 2.2V
DDR2 VTT ~1.09V
CPU VTT ~ 1.24V
MCH 1.25V ~1.33V
ICHIO 1.5V ~1.56V
ICH 1.05V ~ 1.09V
I am basing that opinion on their nForce4 Boards
My voltages are the following for 500 x 7:
vCPU - 1.45
CPUvtt - 1.35
vMCH - 1.72
vIO - 1.19
vICH - 1.65
NB + CPU in the fishbowl.
@chawks2 what seems to be emphasized on Voltage settings in Bios for Quad Core Overclocking?:)
Brother here are my voltages/settings for 470 x 8 with a dual core I think the dual cores are quite light on the voltage none the less here is one more comparison that may help someone.
CNCode:OC GURU:
CPU OPERATING SPEED................ - USER DEFINE
EXTERNAL CLOCK..................... - 470MHz
MULTIPLIER FACTOR.................. - x 8
# ESTIMATED NEW CPU CLOCK.......... - 3760MHz
DRAM SPEED (CPU:DRAM) 1:1.20....... - DDR2-1128
PCI EXPRESS CLOCK.................. - 100MHz
VOLTAGE CONTROL:
CPU CORE VOLTAGE................... - 1.5800V
DDR2 VOLTAGE....................... - 2.150V
CPU VTT 1.2V VOLTAGE............... - 1.20V
MCH 1.25V VOLTAGE.................. - 1.37V
ICH 1.05V VOLTAGE.................. - 1.12V
ICHIO 1.5V VOLTAGE................. - 1.50V
DDR2 REFERENCE VOLTAGE............. - 0%
CPU GTLREF 0+2..................... - 67%
CPU GTLREF 1+4..................... - 67%
ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES:
DRAM TIMING SELECTABLE............. - MANUAL
CAS LATENCY TIME (TCL)............. - 5
RAS# TO CAS# DELAY (TRCD).......... - 5
RAS# PRECHARGE (TRP)............... - 5
PRECHARGE DELAY (TRAS)............. - 15
REFRESH CYCLE TIME (TRFC).......... - 30
WRITE RECOVERY TIME (TWR).......... - 3
WRITE TO READ DELAY (TWTR)......... - 3
ACT TO ACT TIME (TRRD)............. - 3
READ TO PRECHARGE (TRTP)........... - 3
COMMAND RATE....................... - 2T
PCIE COMPLIANCE MODE............... - V1.0A
PEG FORCE X1....................... - DISABLED
INIT DISPLAY FIRST................. - PCIEX
ADVANCED BIOS FEATURES / CPU FEATURES:
THERMAL CONTROL.................... - DISABLED
LIMIT CPUID MAXVAL................. - DISABLED
C1E FUNCTION....................... - DISABLED
EXECUTE DISABLE BIT................ - ENABLED
VIRTUALISATION TECHNOLOGY.......... - ENABLED
EIST FUNCTION...................... - DISABLED
Thanks Craig! Anyone with Q6600 G0 care to be helpful and chime in?
After I submitted the thread I realized you were looking for quad core volts. Sorry, no G0 stepping...YET! :pimp:
hi guys!
anybody knows the pll (setfsb) for this motherboard?
thanks...
that's the 64 million dollar question and i do not have an answer for you.
have you run hdtune with a before and after?..post the both the benches in here so we can see them...did you disable any performance items in the bios like "IDE Bus Master" in the 'onchip sata device' menu?
No I did not disable any features except the PATA/eSATA controller because I don't need it.
Before volume-write back cache: 128kb strip raid 0
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3356/untitledqq0.png
With volume-write back cache: 128kb strip raid 0
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4...titled2hx1.png
now...i did not enable anything in my intel raid setup after windows was installed and i got great speed as you saw back a couple of pages.
is that vista or XP?
i can't boot into my intel raid setup since i have my system on my bench...thos drives are still in the case...i just changed out my Q6600 B3 to Q6600 "G0"...
Congrats on the chip. I hope it's good to you. :yepp:
I am pretty sure that I used the correct driver... but at one point during the install... when you hit the 's' key to pick the one to install.. it had 3 options. The first was to install a ARCH (don't know what it is called) driver that is for the Intel. At the end of it said - (ICH9H Desktop). The third option was to install the Intel SATA driver that was also for ICH9H, but it did not say it was for desktop.
I picked the third one because it was the only one that had SATA.:p: :mad:
i hit 4.0 Ghz...i couldn't run everest stability test for very long...probably needed more voltage but i was hesitant from pouring it on.
i am sitting at almost 3.8 Ghz with a actual vcore of 1.42v...AMAZING!...i could go to 3.7 Ghz on the B3 but it needed about 1.58v to 1.59v.
Nice dude. :up:
I am pretty sure that I used the correct driver... but at one point during the install... when you hit the 's' key to pick the one to install.. it had 3 options. The first was to install a ARCH raid (the other type of raid.. don't know what it is called) driver that is for the Intel. At the end of that option said - (ICH9H Desktop). The third option was to install the Intel SATA driver that was also for ICH9H, but it did not say it was for desktop.
I picked the third one because it was the only one that had SATA.:p: :mad:
i think you should have selected the AHCI driver.
this is the driver i used to install my raid setup:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Filt...eng&page_nbr=2
are you still there?
this is the one you should select after selecting "S":
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iaStor_ICH8R = "Intel(R) 82801HR/HH/HO SATA RAID Controller (Desktop ICH8R)"
Again, use the abit cd to create a floppy with raid drivers. It works.
sounds like you are a college student?
Ace. I'm about to change computers and download HDtune and see what it shows. I learned about disabling the cach-write back via the Matrix Storage manager from someone on overclockers. I was getting crappy throughput until I changed that setting. Honestly, I don't think the burst speed will reduce that much from what I posted earlier through hdtach. I'll post it on this same post #1765 within an hour or so.
here it is. I was refering to this thread about the write-back cache enabled (after installing matrix raid manager) here:http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=512211&page=10
3 x new 7200.10's in raid (ip35)
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i304/scwam/htune.jpg
this board with a "G0" is AWESOME!...doing everest at 3.8Ghz@475 FSB...with my B3, the most i got was 3.7 with about 1.59v actual vcore...now, look 3.8 with 1.44V (actual) dropping down to about 1.39v - 1.40
^ Looks like you won with that G0 Ace, I hope my L725A903 can do as well :up:
Could you please take a ss showing the voltages shown in uguru as shown below
Currently @ 3.20GHz using 1.2825Vcore
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1...re32ghzsd0.jpg
Thats really good dude, I think I may have to try a G0 soon.
What is the max fsb with the G0 stepping. The highest I can get with my 3220 B3 is 490fsb max.
meh went to radioshack because fry was to far. Just bought a cheapo iron. a .015 dia tip spare, standard rosin core solder, its kinda of thick. I need get to frys they have so much more. Might pic up a hakko, iam sure its a better solder iron.
and the resistor! radioshack has always been crap, but man they had nothing hardly..no except a 20kohm variable resistor...its gonna be a hunt!:ROTF:
So is this board limited to 1.64 vcore?
Heres some screen shots of my Areca 1231 ML Raid Controller with 1GB Cache on both EVGA 680i A1 and Abit IP35 Pro talk about a kick in the nuts on Burst speed dropping down to X4 Signal:eek: Very nice Board though:D
Had a go at the vmod last night, and embarrassed to say I failed. Note: I have done quite a bit of reading up beforehand.
Did a bit of a test run on an old sound card, soldering wires to various ic's and that went okay. However on my motherboard I just can't get the solder to stick.
Any of you guys who have successfully got it together, got any tips?
Much appreciated.
RLM.
ps. I have posted in the Xtreme mods/motherboards section, but I don't know how many of you read over there.
By the way nice chip Ace-a-rue. Well envious.
I need about .1 more voltage on my GO. What is the stepping?
RLM
your avg read is still above normal bro.
burst is really good imo even now lol. Raid 0 is ruff on drives! crazy man
awesome Ocing ACE, R u Ocing through uguru?
on the Pro board, i think it is going to be around 500 FSB with a quad core cpu...i think i tried 500 earlier but it was not very stable unless i increased almost all the voltages (except Vcore) right up close to the upper limits; like ICHIO 1.5 and MCH...ram, i don't like to go over 2.4 since i hurt one of my memory sticks many months ago...i try to be more protective with the Vdimm.
i am working the 8X multi and i might be able to squeeze a little more out of it like 480-485 maybe with only a small bump in vcore...i am going to give it a try.:)
on your Pro board results is/was very similar burst speed that i got on asus 975X chipset board which had two 8X Pcie slots...i don't think it is a whole lot to do with the 4X slot as it has to do with Intel's way of doing business with its chipset transfer speed.
to tell you the truth...who'd want to find out!?...if you are talking about actual vcore, that would be a suicide run in my opinion...i had my B3 up to a bios setting of 1.63-1.64...actual was 1.58 to 1.59...never wanted to go over 1.6v unless i had a phase system...on air its dicey to go over actual 1.6v for vcore.
While I have connected my external USB/e-SATA Seagate Freeagent Pro with an e-SATA cable and is being recognized as a SATA II and I changed it to AHCI my performance is not more than 21 MB/s average the same as USB2.
I don't think this is the supposed transfer.
Could anyone please clarify if he knows anything.
Thanks.
its the rohs compliant thing. There isnt any lead in the solder, so once its set into place, its hard to remelt and get it nice again without it globbing up. What kind of solder did you buy at radioshack? The 60/40 will be your best bet, at least in my experience.(modding xboxes). Just coat the iron before hand with it and you should be ok. You could also try to suck up the old stuff with a copper wick if you need to.
Thanks Bfox, a couple of things for me to think about there.Quote:
its the rohs compliant thing. There isnt any lead in the solder, so once its set into place, its hard to remelt and get it nice again without it globbing up. What kind of solder did you buy at radioshack? The 60/40 will be your best bet, at least in my experience.(modding xboxes). Just coat the iron before hand with it and you should be ok. You could also try to suck up the old stuff with a copper wick if you need to.
No radioshack here, and the ROHS doesn't seem to of caught on here:D . It's got the lead in. I've tried two kinds. One is 60/40 tin/lead containing non corrosive flux. The other is tin-lead-silver alloy.
I wasn't coating the solder iron beforehand, instead coating the wire. Maybe that's where I'm going wrong.
Will look into the copper wick for cleaning up.
Thanks again man:up: Up for getting this right.
RLM
here is 480 FSB after 10+ minutes of everest stressing...i think 485 FSB (8X) is going to be more challenging with the vcore having to scale much higher....right now bios set to 1.5150 with an idle vcore of 1.475v...that is measured from the board...under load it drops about another 0.04v, maybe 0.05v...i'll check after posting this picture.
EDIT:...checked the actual load vcore from the board and it is 1.43v...actually, like 1.428v
@ 3.60GHz WITHOUT the Vdroop mod connected ;)
Q6600 L725A903 G0 - VID 1.2625 3.10Ghz prime stable @ 1.220Vcore real (default) idle taken by DMM
I was surprised how much more Vcore is needed once you go above 3.20GHz
3.20GHz needs 1.2825Vcore set in bios = 1.23V windoz idle 1.21V load (actual DMM reading)
3.60GHz needs 1.4525Vcore set in bios = 1.41V windoz idle 1.34V load (actual DMM reading)
Reported CPU-Z, Uguru and DMM Vcore readings variations are no more than .02V difference :clap: :up:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4...e360ghzfe2.jpg
Should be even better when I connect the mod :up:
mmm seems my last post to ya got lost in the ether ... there's a Radio Shack down from Siam but I will have some local with the gear to help out, ping me tomorrow ... :)
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Thanks Bfox, a couple of things for me to think about there.
No radioshack here, and the ROHS doesn't seem to of caught on here:D . It's got the lead in. I've tried two kinds. One is 60/40 tin/lead containing non corrosive flux. The other is tin-lead-silver alloy.
I wasn't coating the solder iron beforehand, instead coating the wire. Maybe that's where I'm going wrong.
Will look into the copper wick for cleaning up.
Thanks again man:up: Up for getting this right.
RLM
Very nice alpha0ne ... my board suffers a huge vDroop so Vcore is up high to allow for the load drop ... the Mod is really needed ... seems I may have got RLM's first board after he sent it back .. TiT :D
your Vdroop under load appears to be higher than mine...could possibly be not a great "G0" or it could be the board and PSU not doing its optimum thing.
i am at 3.84Ghz with bios set to 1.5150...in windows, idling, i read direct from the board at 1.4750v...so only a 0.04v Vdrop...NOW...under load, that drops down to 1.43v or about 1.428v...lets make it 1.43v..the total difference in Vdrop+Vdroop = 0.085v total drop in Vcore...yours is 0.1125v...YIKES...that is not the best.
how do you say you have 1.45 set in the bios when your Uguru says 1.45v...can't be!
Hey NCSA, nice one man:up:
Finding stuff here is real fun'n'games. I'm out in Bang Na, and ended up right over the other side of town at NPA out past Don Meung.Quote:
there's a Radio Shack down from Siam
I really want to do this myself, but I think I'll take up the offer and atleast watch and learn. I'll give you a call tomorrow morning.
Cheers again man.
RLM
heh ACE, r u doing all your OCing from Uguru?
@Ace-aRue should I need to know something using the 1066 strap with this Quad Core?