Boot slownes is gone and browsing is fast again. Haven't tried with games yet but atm I'm a happy camper, thank you both TI66ER and c_fun.
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Boot slownes is gone and browsing is fast again. Haven't tried with games yet but atm I'm a happy camper, thank you both TI66ER and c_fun.
do you reckon they are gonna release the dts version of this driver soon c_fun?.
can any of you guys heavily OC'g your P5Bdlx try a suspend/resume? My E6600 based system won't successfully resume from suspend at anything over 2.9 ghz, even when I can stabley OC up to 3.4 ghz. :mad:
:confused:
For those who got fsb wall and curious bout it (im a noob) and dont have another cpu/mobo/mem to find out why this is happening, hope this helps
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Originally Posted by TaPaKaH
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Originally Posted by TI66ER
I think this is the DTS version...
anyone having problems with the 4:5 divider on their P5B dlx motherboards? :slapass:
I tried all the bios options even the 804 but somehow cant seem to find a answer to this.
My ram does over 500 2:3 but at 4:5 even at 500 its not stable :confused:
2grimreaper,
just run 1:1.
Running a higher mem freq doesnt give u more performance.
What does DTS contain?
I know its something about surround sound. I have 2.1 speakers, and the only thing i do is gaming ( so= no mediacentre/ cinema pc).
I havent enabled it, do i need to enable it?
-sound driver= I am using 4570. I amnot expiersing a --long--- slow boot, the only issue is 2 me= crackling. I will download 4580 when it is officially released by asus.
These days i ll sale my E6300, i am going to buy a E6600, i hope i ll get some g00d results :P
any news on pcie@1X problem ? :confused:
thats still there not fixed :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by metalazzo
Kakulukia
you also have the same issue? :stick:
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Originally Posted by c_fun
Moving through folders are great now, just like a Raptor should be, but boot time is still 12 blocks :/
No crackling either :D
what vcore and vdimm are you using?Quote:
Originally Posted by jimwhite
I have been using it for about a week as well. Now with this version I am in the process of overclocking, but I need some help.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimReaper
I have gone by the recommendations of FCG on the bios settings. I own a P5B-D, C2D 6400, Muskin DDR2 667. I have read through many pages on this forum, and have learned much, but not all I feel I should know about overclocking. My last over clock was on my last pc a AMD 3200+ XP with a Asus A7N8X and Geil DDR ram, so it has been a while.
I followed all the settings provided by FCG, except the FSB Term. Volt., NB VCore, and SB VCore, and the PCI Express Freq. Those are on auto, and 100 for PCIE Freq, as well as the ram is at the stock voltage of 1.9v. Those settings seem a little more dangerous to max out
I have been able to oc to 400x8=3.2GHz. This is only an hour of dual Prime95s stable. My temps are 45c idle, and 60c load. I have a Zalman CNPS9500 HSF. My CPU voltage 1.280. I am running the latest bios version from Asus 0804.
The question I ask is what should I do, bump up voltage, if so what settings, or should I drop the FSB from 400 down to 388 or 375?
might want to read up...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakulukia
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=120410
I have been struggling with this issue since day 1. Thats the only reason i plan to move up to a ASUS Stryker Extreme or atleast a 680i mobo, because these kind of :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up dividers are a real PITA. Hope ASUS gets their act together and fixes these.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimReaper
Karan
i must have a different P5B Dlx version than you guys complaining about the sound card...i have NO sound card problems and boot time is good....i am overclocking moderately.
I had the sound problem until the beta drivers and now they're fixed. Big thanks for that one :)
quick noob question, why is that cooler for the heat pipe only for passive or water cooling?
set the FSB to 401 ;) also bump up the Vcore just tiny bit more it should be fully stable in orthos :DQuote:
Originally Posted by AND_YOU_ARE
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Originally Posted by kidoman
:slapass: asus needs to work harder to fix them :fact:
OK, I tried the newer sound drivers. Yes, the boot time is definitely better, BUT there is still a feeling of slowness. Completely uninstall the drivers and disable in BIOS and you'll be very surprised at the difference between even these new drivers and none at all.
So, I installed an audigy SE that I got new for $16 and wow-much better. No speed problem, perfect response in Windows . Problem are gone for $16-$20. The sound is MUCH better. I did quite a long audio comparison and I can say the $20 Audigy SE completely blows away the onboard sound in low-end bass response and clarity in the highs. It is a VERY noticable difference. Don't even waste your time with the onboard sound on this mobo-it is absolute crap. Drivers can't fix something like that - it is what it is (CRAP.)
Amazing a $215 board has sound this bad. Amazing.
I have a similar feeling thats why i said it isnt 100% perfect, looks like they took care of the PnP or whatever conflict there was at boot time. or at least most of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
but still browsing folders is quicker when the HD audio is disbaled in bios, or when the drivers are not installed at all. and i understand what u mean about overall "feel" of slowness (like IE not jumping blazing fast, and seems like HDD working at it a little)
I think this is still an imperfect job. and i might try your solution and buy an Audigy. (or i might just disable the "click" for start navigation in windows sound system, but still there is that "feeling" something wont be 100%.
i dont have a sound card to test it yet.
hi,
i have a 7900 GTO and 1 have one question.
If i put my 7900GTO in the blue pci-e slot, it is pci-e x16. But if i put the same 7900GTO in de black pci-e slot i will get x4(single card). But in the manual it says 2x pci-e x16. How van i activate pci-e x16 on the black slot?
I have a 07xx bios, maybe it helps when i update tot 0804? Or is it just not possible?
I want this so i have more place for my pci cards.
And can someone that has the p5b dlx not in a case, make a photo of the other side of the board, aspecially by the cpu(which you normal place (with big coolers) a back plate)? thnx
you can't
black pcie is only a 4X one
Asus made en error in the manual
My only other concern is the temps I have been getting. I am running a Antec P180B with a Zalman CNPS9500 HSF. When I had the chip clocked at 3.2 it was at 45c idle and 60c load. Bumping up the vcore will only increase the temps. Am I still in a safe range? 60C is when running two prime95s, and 3DMark05 at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimReaper
Ok i will place my 7900GTO in the blue one then.Quote:
Originally Posted by metalazzo
But can someone make a photo of the backside of the p5b dlx?
And a spcially at the socket holes( i want to check if a cooler fits with backplate)? thnx
(i couldn't find one in google)
Let me tell you guys Vista feels much quicker than XP now, probably because of those drivers. I just installed them and got quicker boot times, but I haven't been in XP much because I'm enjoying the Vista experience...
They have some beta drivers for SoundMAx, but the Microsoft ones work just fine, no DTS but then, no DTS in XP anyway...
You're ok, I have a slightly more efficient Arctic 7 Freezer and I can push the voltage a bit more and stay under 60c...if you want to do a quick bench you can raise the voltage, but I wouldn't run at load temps above 70c for long.Quote:
My only other concern is the temps I have been getting. I am running a Antec P180B with a Zalman CNPS9500 HSF. When I had the chip clocked at 3.2 it was at 45c idle and 60c load. Bumping up the vcore will only increase the temps. Am I still in a safe range? 60C is when running two prime95s, and 3DMark05 at the same time.
When I couldn't get the stock cooler to mount properly, I actually hit 85c and the thermal protection throttle-back months ago. Probably took a month or two off my processor's life, but who knows?
here we go :Quote:
Originally Posted by barzi
http://metalazz0.free.fr/IMG_1761.jpg
http://metalazz0.free.fr/IMG_1763.jpg
pics are a bit heavy so I give only a link :)
i finally listened to some music through the onboard sound with the newer drivers provided here. it sounds horrible compared to my old sb live 5.1 card. when the volume is higher, the music sounds distorted.
what would be the best bios for me? the latest is 0804
my system would be a C2D 6600 and a pair of 2X1gb OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 Platinum Revision 2, and i will do a hard Overclock to the system, at least i want to reach 450 fsb with 1:1 memory
Vcore at 1.45 for 3.4ghz, 1.375 for 2.9.... and Vdimm at 2.15 (running Corsair DDR2-800 Cas4 Pro's)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
:cool:
What? I only bought this board so I could update to crossfire when games start feeling slow, am I going to be limited to 4x pcie when I do this? If so I may as well return it and get the p5b with one slot.Quote:
you can't
black pcie is only a 4X one
Asus made en error in the manual
Thank you very much :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by metalazzo
And is the 0804 bios stable? I use a 07xx now, i have no problems, but i want to overclock, is the 0804 better for that?
Should I try to reseat my HSF? The new design for intel boards and the Zalman heatsink make it difficult to make sure the heatsink is seated properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by sluzbenik
Might be related to some HDD slowness ?
I have enabled HDD in bios for AHCI fot the Intel chipset , also enabled ENHNCED
I have installed my winxp and used F6 to provide the InteL cipset driver (AHCI)
When Ii go to device Manager and ouble click on my HDD properties going into POLICIES TAB, i can see that both options are "greyed out" and there is a dot on the second one, while Enable Write caching on the disk doesnt have a chek mark.
Is this normal ? can this be a cause for HDD not performing to its best ability ?
also checking the Write cahce option once done makes it grey and you cant uncheck it.
did anyone have any experience with it and knows whether this behavior is normal, and what suppoed to be the best normal setting for it ?
0804 works fine and oc is goodQuote:
Originally Posted by barzi
except my pcie@1X problem, this is a "good card"
This is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by baker99
New Intel ICHR 8 Drivers
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...FullName=Windo
Ver:6.2.0.2002
are ichr drivers the chipset drivers?
Ughh installed the above drivers, slower boot, plus BSOD with something about cdfs driver mistakingly marking itself pageable, reverted to older drivers.
just had a look,most of the changes/fixes relate to windows vista.
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-s...easenotes.html
Anybody else try these drivers out?
Uh, yeah. I got a faster boot. The beta was floating around. It's like the driver in Vista now (in Vista the drivers seem better, if you boot up into Vista from XP, it hangs, but on second restart, no hang), no hang on searching for drives on restart. I think that's been discussed here maybe, it seems AHCI/RAID drivers were doing something to the boot sector that was causing the slight hang. It seems to be fixed...Which reminds me, I gotta go install it in Vista now too!
No problems here. Maybe you didn't F6 install in the first place if it's your boot drive?
Guys
I think we've been fooled.
there is no DTS in those drivers, I will expalin below.
I'll start form the end.
I think those drivers are exactly the same as teh 4530_32bit version that has no DTS (found on the ASUS website)
I told you guys i am not feelign its 100% perfect and i was right. this same feeling i had with the 4530 no DTS version when i tired it. it had small boot delay like now as comapred to the DTS version.
Now why do i thought we have DTS in this version,
Reason was that the soundmax pannel showed DTS TAB, but try to set things in it and u will see its reverts back to nothing, it doesnt keep the settings.
This is because there is no driver suport for this.
and now you ask so how come we have DTS TAB there with those Drivers ?
the ANSWER is simple, these are NOT stand alone drivers, they were supposed to be installed on TOP of the 4570 DTS version, this means the 4570 DTS version layed out the grounds for the sound max panel, but the 4580 just overun the core driver and left the leftovers unfunctional and not suported.
Basiclaly Asus wanted us to keep quite so they "made a so called advanced numebring onthe driver 4580" so we all be happy its "new" and basiclaly disabled DTS.
feels and looks like they wraped hte 4530_32bit version with a new numbering and overun the core 4570_DTS drivers.
a bunch of crap.
If you want to use Xfire you will have 1x16 and 1x8 PCIE.
i would try higher Vdimm up to 2.4v and higher Vcore up to 1.55v to come out of a hibernation state.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimwhite
also...try switching to S3 to see if that is any different.
hi, im getting an unknown pci device in the device manager.. anyone knows whats the problem??
Can you post a picture of the Device Manager?i think that if you install the AISuite it goes away.
I have this same issue with my disks, enabled it and then it goes greyed out all of a sudden and you cannot change it ever again after that(maybe if you uninstall disc again and do a redetection?). Guess this could explain worse performance in windows but it would not explain slower boot on P5B Deluxe compared to much older boards with older cpu's that have faster boot:)Quote:
Originally Posted by c_fun
Unknown Device Driver is solved by installing Asus AISuite. I think this sucks personally, and perfer to live with the unknown device.
Nop this looks to be fine, and probably enabled by default via the AHCI driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappie
O compared with a friend, i think its a result of using AHCI. I think if you will switch to IDE then that option will have its function we we got used to it.
I think it's predefined and implemeted in the AHCI driver as it configures and handles hte HDD.
any news on pcie 1x problem.. Mine wont go away and it hits in at 380FSB upto 450FSB I have tried
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Originally Posted by hot_fifty
have you tried a hard reset? meaning unplug pc, leave for 30 seconds plug in and boot.
i fixed mine by upping my pcie value to 101mhz
I have tried that.. Sometimes it work after unplugging power, but then after reboot - it comes again.. :banana::banana::banana::banana:
In order to restore 16X you'll need to perform a complete reset.
Then bring up your Vcore a little along with other voltages to stabilize your oc before you boot back into windows.
Even ram timings and voltage can make a difference
You may think its stable but it may not be and any one of the factors listed could trigger the 1X pci bus width errors.
I have heard the 0614 bios may not be plagued with this but can’t confirm that.
I have also duplicated this error at stock speeds and by raising Vcore slightly the system stabilized.
I hope Asus gets this fixed soon.:mad:
Hi all,
Could anyone tell me how safe is to use 24/7 my C2D E6600 at 3.6 Ghz and 1.575V set in BIOS on this motherboard? The temps on the CPU under load go sometimes up to 60-62C (52-55 idle), but no higher. The MoBo temps in the same time do not go over 42C as it is well cooled. I mean, how long is my CPU going to last under such voltage and temps? :)
did you use AS5? yeah if you could reset the heatsink and apply some more as5. also bump up you Vcore just a bit. it should be fully stable at 3.2 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by AND_YOU_ARE
ReDeemer
1.575 is too much unless you have water cooling :eek:
I really hope they still have a team working hard for a new bios for this board... There are just too many quirks and problems with mobo this at the moment.
OK, but which then is the maximum CPU Vcore set in BIOS that could be safely used 24/7 under my TT Big Typhoon?Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimReaper
Quote:
Originally Posted by ReDeemer
If you really want to be technical about it the Intel data sheets show maximum ratings for the core 2 processor as follows. .
1.3625 is the maximum during normal operation.
1.55 is the absolute maximum voltage
The maximum temperature is 61.4C @ 65 watts for the E6600 series processor.
These values are guidelines @ stock rated speeds.
There aren’t very many people here at stock rated speeds so the best advice would be to watch your temps and if you’re worried about your voltages follow the guidelines set by Intel.
"i would try higher Vdimm up to 2.4v and higher Vcore up to 1.55v to come out of a hibernation state.
also...try switching to S3 to see if that is any different."
coming out of hibernation is not a problem - that works great.... it's resuming from S3 that doesn't work!
:D
To solve the 1X PCIe issue, everytime i restart the computer, i go into the bios and adjust the PCIe MHz, from 100 to 110 or vice verca. and it always seems to work.
So far I haven’t needed to reset and haven’t experienced the 1X error in awhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
Changing the pci express frequency makes perfect sense.
I'll try that next time.:toast:
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Originally Posted by ReDeemer
No one can determine that for your setup. You have to figure that out on your own. Every CPU, motherboard, ram,etc is different.
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Originally Posted by ReDeemer
I run 1.5 24/7... i wouldnt worry too much with 1.575 either. No one has ever killed a conroe with volts. Some dont clock well anymore, but thats from really high voltage (closer to 1.7)
Personally if i were you i would go down to 1.5 if you can, but your temps are not so bad.
Im running 1.51V here at 3.535ghz
50C load.
I want it to die so I can get a B or C revision chip, instead of this A :p
me too :D want my chip to die so i can jump onto kentsfield or a e6700 revision B
running 24/7 1.6625 vcore (droop is like 0.07 volts) at max 67 celsius orthos (only during orthos, even when encoding with cce it only hits 59).
I worry only because many ppl say voltages over 1.45-1.50 aren't good for Conroe even under good air cooling and can kill the CPU in a matter of short time if used 24/7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
Actually, I could use it at 3.4 Ghz - the CPU needs only 1.438V at that speed, but the best performance is achieved at FSB400, 1:1... That's why I was wondering if I should have gone down a little with OC and Vcore to avoid any risc.
If you want them to die i can think of a number of ways thats a whole lot quicker :D
U don't need to install AIsuite. Just insert asus install cd and it will find the driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyire
Quote:
Originally Posted by ReDeemer
Find me one conroe that has died at 1.5-1.7v from voltage, just try.
I couldn’t agree with you more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
Intel designed this processor to shut down at about 85C.
The last thing they want to do is warranty their product.
:D
:toast:
Well, I don't have any evidence of it so far :) the chip has been used only for several months. it's only theoretical and I just wanted to be sure about whether I'm right or wrong. Anyway, thanx for easing me of my worry. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
Awesome, thanks for this info.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
Would be great to add a P4B-E guide as well. I know the BIOS setting are going to be the same but mods and a few other details may be specific to this board vs P5B-DX's
Been running solid on my system since the day it came out.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimReaper
Is this verifiable? I sent an email to Asus support asking for help with a few of my problems with my P5B, no surprise I never got an email back. I thought my A7N8X would have had the worst sound quality, but the P5B has proven me wrong--I would gladly go back to putting up with nvidia's control panel, at least it didn't ever BSOD my system. ASUS implementation of onboard sound is a TRAVESTY.Quote:
Originally Posted by c_fun
Part of why I payed for a premium motherboard such as the P5B was exactly because I don't want to deal with these problems. Asus really is cementing itself in my opinion as a disingenuous and incompetent company.
lol you never know when you rma it you might end up with a old stock week 24 :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Concorde Rules
So have u found a way to do it, i mean killing ur chip? what volts?? mine l626A stuck @470 so ..... i really2x want to get at least l628b :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Concorde Rules
I just checked the Asus site for their bios files to DL, and they only have the 0804 bios there. I'm about to build a new rig with this board, but I wanna have the 0711...anyone know where I can get a link to this bios, or kind enough to upload it to me? Thx.
**EDIT**: Nevermind, I DL'd it off opendrivers.com. Not bad, just beware the pop ups.
here ya go-
http://rapidshare.com/files/3290699/P5BD0711.zip
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...uxe%20Wifi-AP/Quote:
Originally Posted by phi|os
nice links, thx guys!
A month ago i downloaded the newest release candidate of Vista. I tried to install but couldnt finish.
It was stopping after searching for source CD/DVD (where the windows vista dvd is).
therefore it couldnt copy files.
I had to install a driver for the dvd writer>>>> which is on the jmicron controller.
I tried to install every driver which i got from asus.com (jmicron driver, intel driver, intel f6 driver, jmicron f6 driver )>> p5b dlx, but no go.
I also tried by changing ide to raid and ahci, still, no go.
I presume more ppl have installed vista on p5b-d
rtm (x86 & x64) installed (on matrix raid) without needing any extra drivers for installation
I forgat to tell that it is a S-ATA dvd writer (samsung).
That stupid installation screwed my whole raid, i lost all of my files (games== redownload== lot of time).
I quess i ll have to try with an IDE drive.
But i can tell u, it can read the cd, till some point (hardware search)
what do you guys think is the best p5b bios?
p5b dlx the 804?Quote:
Originally Posted by ingenue007
with my dlx(804) and e6300 its gone to 3.1ghz(450fsb) straight up.
but good damn pcie 1x is still an issue... :banana::banana::banana::banana: ASUS
Quote:
Originally Posted by ingenue007
0804
Just started messing around with this P5B Deluxe I got from pablo, so far I'm quite impressed with it. The pic below is not 100% stable but I can 32mb SuperPi. However, I do can 485x7 Othos all day long. I will post bios settings later. All on Air and no vmods. All OCs done in BIOS.
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4...0fsboq8.th.jpg
Stuck at 3800 with 6600 L630A(380) 1.6125v set 1.58v real with tunic tower 120. i guess 4Ghz will have to wait till i get my 775 wc block since load temps are around 60c allready.
still belive its the board holding me back , behaves exactly the sam way as p5w dh did at fsb limit which was around 375-380 now with p5b dlx its around 425-430.
Is 0804 the best one for high fsb ?
i have 804 and i run my fsb at 477. i can run it at 480 but it's flakey. i can't boot at 483...i think it's my ram.
(what u mean with flakey?)Quote:
Originally Posted by ingenue007
Many people cant go over 480 with p5b-d.
It is a limit, dunno its the board or the cpu.
Update on slow boot, important development!!!!!!!
Okay, I found this out on pure luck, I had this old disk lying around, an ATA harddisk and it never worked proper on my previous board, something to do with jumpers etc. So I thought, why not try and see if it works on my P5B, so I disconnected my Nec IDE burner and attached that Hitachi IDE disk, upon reboot I could see in light blue that my Hitachi was detected on Jmicron, detection was very fast which led me to believe nothing was wrong with the disk in the first place.
Now onto the kicker of the story, with this simple ATA133 IDE drive attached to my comp my boot into windows was sped up threefold. Where I had 5 bars before, I was now on 1,5 and it would go to desktop:) Then I tested booting without any device connected to that Jmicron IDE and mysteriously I was back at 5 bars again. So whatever the problem is, it goes away completely with a simple crappy ATA133 IDE attached to Jmicron.
Note to readers : I am running windows XP from SATA port 1, and windows is installed with AHCI drivers via F6 install, onboard audio is disabled, abundant LAN port is also disabled, and floppy drive is also disabled in bios. So if anyone here has any clue as to why this is happening lemme know. I do know this however, if I now decide to switch to RAID0 with two drives running on SATA1 and 2 mixed with this weird fix of mine when running 1 IDE drive connected to Jmicron then this could only spell 0,5 bars into windows, just has to be. Cuz right now, I am merely booting from an old 36Gb single raptor.
This message primarily to C_fun, Kakulukia, and others who want to see this slow boot fixed. Again more light is shed on the matter, test it for yourselves and post your results here.
2cappie,
i am running raid0 (@intel).
The slow boot is caused by the intel or jmicron controller, i believe that it isnt the sound (i use it).
Somehow i dont have a slow boot, only a 3 seconds black screen,
is that what u mean with slow boot? And i am pretty sure that that is caused by my raid array.
New Bios 0903 no Changelog available until now
Well all I can say is, 3x faster is quite alot, and with the faster bootup I mean when windows first starts loading and shows the splash screen, how long it takes there.
i fail orthos blend at 478-480. at 477 i can run it a long time. i have a "b" cpu too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakulukia
what has you changed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappie
somebody tried 0903 bios?