"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

No.. it can not. http://rapidshare.com/files/15144936...-1406.rar.html Get this one.

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Originally Posted by SuporterPoli

I just asked because i think we got to a point that we shouldnt spread rumors about methods of updating the bios that arent true.
I mean if 50%(random number) from the people in this thread would have problems with the Asus update utility then fine, but just saying dont use it because in the past there maybe were problems is not ok.
I also used the Windows utility from my socketA Epox board and that was also each time ok.

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The biggest reasons of not using Windows to update a BIOS is not the Asus program, but Windows itself. Just bring up task manager and look at all the applications, processes, and services running. I have 51 and my brother-in-law has 90 my dad has over 120! There are too many possible programs to interfere or some other process to fail and crash the system plus any virus, adware, trojans, and malware in general. Not to mention if you are having issues with your BIOS to begin with, then the added stress of Windows will increase the chances of a crash than a very light load of dos or internal bios flash programs. Personally, I'd have to say I've had about 95% of BIOS flash failure being caused by using windows vs dos/internal BIOS flash programs.

I'd like to say I've been using 1406 for a couple of days now with no issues. I usually have 2-3 crashes a day from playing Civ 4 marathon games with 1102 and not 1 crash since the update keeping my 3.6GHz OC (450x8).

-=Mark=-

i have a Q6600 bought this September, but i think the third core of my CPU was not made so well as the others cores. Above 3.1Ghz i'm getting always 1 error in prime95 on the third core.

Is possible Intel to cut in quality (a looooot) to reduce the cost comparing 1year ago?

it's frustrating because i think core1,2 and 4, they all could easily work with low a vcore, much lower then Core3....

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Originally Posted by MarkJohnson

The biggest reasons of not using Windows to update a BIOS is not the Asus program, but Windows itself. Just bring up task manager and look at all the applications, processes, and services running. I have 51 and my brother-in-law has 90 my dad has over 120! There are too many possible programs to interfere or some other process to fail and crash the system plus any virus, adware, trojans, and malware in general. Not to mention if you are having issues with your BIOS to begin with, then the added stress of Windows will increase the chances of a crash than a very light load of dos or internal bios flash programs. Personally, I'd have to say I've had about 95% of BIOS flash failure being caused by using windows vs dos/internal BIOS flash programs.

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I could not have said it better. :clap:

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Originally Posted by MarkJohnson

The biggest reasons of not using Windows to update a BIOS is not the Asus program, but Windows itself. Just bring up task manager and look at all the applications, processes, and services running. I have 51 and my brother-in-law has 90 my dad has over 120! There are too many possible programs to interfere or some other process to fail and crash the system plus any virus, adware, trojans, and malware in general. Not to mention if you are having issues with your BIOS to begin with, then the added stress of Windows will increase the chances of a crash than a very light load of dos or internal bios flash programs. Personally, I'd have to say I've had about 95% of BIOS flash failure being caused by using windows vs dos/internal BIOS flash programs.

I'd like to say I've been using 1406 for a couple of days now with no issues. I usually have 2-3 crashes a day from playing Civ 4 marathon games with 1102 and not 1 crash since the update keeping my 3.6GHz OC (450x8).

-=Mark=-

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Anyone who flashes a BIOS through windows with more than .. lets say 25-30 processes.. deserves to be punished! :D
I am on Server 2003 which uses more than XP I'm told even though it's quicker ! :D , and I'm running 20 processes right now when I CTRL ALT DEL.
It's amazing that some 'knuckleheads' would not go 'bare-bones' when they flash a BIOS through windows. I know a guy that tried to flash his bios with a virus scanner on! well , what hope is there? :)
I run on a cut down Server 2003 .. and even then I cut out alot of stuff in the windows services.
If people don't know how\what to stop in their services .. well they woudn't be upgrading their BIOS anyway... Windows is full of BLOAT we all know that.
I've flashed many a BIOS through windows 'BARE BONES' and never had a problem.
NOOB hat on, is it possible to flash a BIOS through windows in SAFE MODE?

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Originally Posted by dannyuk32

Anyone who flashes a BIOS through windows with more than .. lets say 25-30 processes.. deserves to be punished! :D

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Actually if you're in Vista ... it's not as easy to kill all relevant processes. Trust me, I've tried it - and it resulted in crashes & freezes. Kill the wrong process and it's a blood bath. I have no experience with Server 2003 so I can't comment on it - but killing processes (Not closing applications, mind you), is not everybody's game. Why bother when you can flash through BIOS?

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Originally Posted by dannyuk32

NOOB hat on, is it possible to flash a BIOS through windows in SAFE MODE?

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Actually, yes. If the Application is supporter (i.e., it does not require any dynamic link library resources which are not active during safe mode), then the application will run & do it's job.

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Originally Posted by dannyuk32

Anyone who flashes a BIOS through windows with more than 25-30 processes deserves to be punished! :D

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anyone with 25+ processes running aint no tweaker ;)

16 processes here... WXP32 on a laptop :D

I can imagine some people not even rebooting when they try flash through windows , also. :D :( (amazing) ...
All's said and done I agree through Windows is not ideal , especially though that JUNK .. Vista .
But you could argue the disadvantages of a Floppy also ...... e.g corrupt data .

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Originally Posted by LUCI5R

Actually, yes. If the Application is supporter (i.e., it does not require any dynamic link library resources which are not active during safe mode), then the application will run & do it's job.

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Thanks LUCI5R . If it's legit I don't know why it is not recommended by the manufacturers.

I got me a new toy,

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8136/newtoyrv7.jpg,,,,




http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7299/magicee5.jpg

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Originally Posted by MonsterDK

I have 4gb of Corsair Dominator 1066 pc2-8500C5 ram for my P5Q-Deluxe. 0803 bios. Looking at the ram Voltage it states 2.1v. Can anyone please suggest what voltage I should be looking at setting in the BIOS taking overvolting into consideration.

Or should I set it to Auto and leave it?

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I have these same sticks and use 2.02v as someone earlier in the thread found out that the board overvolts by 0.08

I tried stock 2.1v too, earlier, but have not had any problems with the 2.02v

{I just Auto most ram timings}

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Originally Posted by dannyuk32

I can imagine some people not even rebooting when they try flash through windows , also. :D :( (amazing) ...
All's said and done I agree through Windows is not ideal , especially though that JUNK .. Vista .
But you could argue the disadvantages of a Floppy also ...... e.g corrupt data .

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most ppl use a USB drive/flash drive. (FAT32)
any FAT32 drive will do tho. ive even heard of ppl using their camera or MP3 players to host the bios file...

EZFLASH is just too easy :yepp: :up:

Highest I have ever clocked,:up:

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/2...esteverkw3.jpg


And higher,,


http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8...erstillml3.jpg

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Originally Posted by truehighroller

Highest I have ever clocked,:up:
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And higher,,

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Can you share your bios settings please ?

i'd like to figure out how to obtain 500+ fsb stable.

Thanks

Well i flashed my board with the Asus Update on Vista and everything was ok. It is a matter of common sense to not have spyware and trojans and disable the antivirus software when doing an update.
As for the others that do it via usb driver, well you have to admit that with the Asus Update you get the latest bios available for your board, and there is also a point here because if you give the example with the guy that was updating the bios with antivirus software running i also can give an theoretical example of someone that downloaded the wrong bin file. So Asus Update pretty much solves the what bios file do i need question.
All i can say about the guys that update their bioses with Ezflash and other dos programs: CHICKEN :) . Lol,/joke.

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Originally Posted by Makymaco

Can you share your bios settings please ?

i'd like to figure out how to obtain 500+ fsb stable.

Thanks

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I will post what I settle on but I did get it to 4.5Ghz last night. I love my new EO stepping..

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Originally Posted by SuporterPoli

All i can say about the guys that update their bioses with Ezflash and other dos programs: CHICKEN :) . Lol,/joke.

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Do you call bikers that drive without a helmet on CHICKEN as well? :) :ROTF: :rofl:

@true ... Whoaa! Awesome clocks there kid! :up:

@Danny ... as ThugsRook pointed out, I don't think many people use Floppy anymore - you don't need to really. Using EZFlash you can use the BIOS stored on your hard drive, or better yet, USB Stick, which I think is what most people use these day, including myself.
Also - I think with the Safe Mode, it's just that generally nothing except Diagnostics/Troubleshoot is ever 'recommended' to be done in Safe Mode, therefore no one ever recommends flashing BIOS through the Safe Mode.

You also have to remember, Safe Mode is not universal across PC's. Safe Mode literally depends on the kind & amount of hardware installed & functioning in your system. Everyone's Safe Mode is not going to act & behave in the same fashion. There is a critical Drivers issue that goes hand-in-hand with Safe Mode.

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Originally Posted by SuporterPoli

Well i flashed my board with the Asus Update on Vista and everything was ok. It is a matter of common sense to not have spyware and trojans and disable the antivirus software when doing an update.
As for the others that do it via usb driver, well you have to admit that with the Asus Update you get the latest bios available for your board, and there is also a point here because if you give the example with the guy that was updating the bios with antivirus software running i also can give an theoretical example of someone that downloaded the wrong bin file. So Asus Update pretty much solves the what bios file do i need question.
All i can say about the guys that update their bioses with Ezflash and other dos programs: CHICKEN :) . Lol,/joke.

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BTW, the EZ-Flash in the 1402 and 1406 BIOS can access your NTFS Windows Drive. So you don't need any kind of external storage device to just flash BIOS's....though I suppose you need to flash BIOSs anymore, since this last one seems to be the final and it's good.

Thank you, Thank you,. I never did hear back from my guy. I am going to call him today like what was it??

finally 3.2ghz.... but with 1.4vcore :(

http://fotos.sapo.pt/u9eo2TOcigiHgBYzWnsK/x435

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Originally Posted by truehighroller

Highest I have ever clocked :up:

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glad to see youre finally having some fun :up:

About time huh lol.

Having some fun with the E8600... and the 9800GT Akimbo

http://users.telenet.be/OAP/P5QDlx/pi1mb.JPG

Once over 1.5Vcore I need to disable LLC to keep her stable... so Real vcore is around 1.51, not a great CPU but fun nevertheless

http://users.telenet.be/OAP/P5QDlx/9800GTAM3.JPG

new an old test whit ASUS P5Q Deluxe.

new Aquamark. E8600 Q820A606 lappe/watercooling/3870x2 watercooling 945/2088
http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=780419

old 3D-mark06. E8600 Q820A606 lappe/watercooling/4870 840/4056 air
http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=760887

new 3D-mark03. E8600 Q820A606 lappe/watercooling/3870x2 watercooling 945/2088
http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=779453

old 3D-mark01.E8600 Q820A606 lappe/watercooling/4870 860/4050 air
http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=777340

3D-mark05. come`s in test now

old superpi. E8600 Q820A606 lappe/watercooling 5.1GHZ=9.16
http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=766897

after there has been water on 3870x2,I have lost on the cpu,max now is 4.8GHZ to 24/7

here is a new 06 ASUS P5Q Deluxe bios 1406

dang, I just had a failed boot on 1406. It started up saying no boot device found. Then I hit ctl+alt+del. On startup I hit del to enter bios and after it finishes all the posts screens and gets ready to go into the BIOS it resets itself and says press F2 to enter bios or F1 to load defaults and continue. I hit F2 to go into the BIOS and the whole thing was reset like I cleared CMOS.

I hope this was just a glitch.
-=Mark=-