This goes for all dual core cpu's under windows XP, it could be done for AMD and INTEL, no matter what the model number, as long as your in windows xp your probably gonna need this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Complete
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This goes for all dual core cpu's under windows XP, it could be done for AMD and INTEL, no matter what the model number, as long as your in windows xp your probably gonna need this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Complete
seems like AMD has quietly released new 1.3.2 dual core drivers...
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._13118,00.html
also AMD has released a new program called the AMD Dual-Core Optimizer....which according to them helps improve PC gaming video performance
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...1_9706,00.html
Hi Titus, the new 1.3.2 duel core drivers are the ones I downloaded, but I cannot install them! It keeps saying 'C:\boot.ini could not be opened'!! I have no way of changing the path to my I boot ini! VERY annoying, not all of us have our main drive or boot partition on 'C'!!!
Copy your boot.ini to C:\ and then after the install replace the "old" by the new one made on C:\ ?Quote:
Originally Posted by chris watton
Tried that?
It only adds /usepmtimer if you ask me...
Thanks for that, just tried it, but still didn't seem to want to know! If all it does is add /usepmtimer , could I not do that myself?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChkDsk
Thank you
Chris
Edited to add - - - yes, that did work, did it wrong in the first instance! Cheers!
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also AMD has released a new program called the AMD Dual-Core Optimizer....which according to them helps improve PC gaming video performance
This looks like AMD's version of the Hotfix.
I'm am kind of leary of the 1.32 drivers. The description states the system can adjust the cpu speed and voltages. This seems like "Cool-n-Quiet" drivers even though it doesn't exactly say that. There are indeed "Cool-n-Quiet" drivers listed there also for Windows ME/2000. The description is exactly the same. Seems these are not the drivers to be used if overclocking if wanting the speed and voltage to stay set to what you overclocked it to.
Oops, misread your post. Nice to see it worked :)Quote:
Originally Posted by chris watton
Cheers! :)
On my system installing the Optimizer causes a BSOD (Driver_IRQL_....) everytime it comes out of S3 standby. This is over the top of a stable system already running the 1.3.2 driver and the hotfix.
The instructions on the first page have been edited to include the Optimizer but it also still includes the hotfix - is this right as some have said they do the same thing? Can anybody confirm what they do and if they are mutually exclusive?
the AMD Dual Core Optimizer is only listed on the FX utilities page on AMD's website and not on the dual core utilities page...does it work on non-FX X2 CPU's as well?
and like b00sfuk asked, do you need both the Optimizer and the MS hotfix installed....since the Optimizer apparently is a better version of the hotfix then it stands to reason that the MS hotfix would no longer be necessary
You know what, i tried it with and without the MS HOTFIX, and i found that with the MS hotfix i get better performance, for example, i got 4 more frames CSS stress test, and 3 more frames for FEAR avg........i have both the AMD and MS hotfix, and is working real good together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
I have both running but I just installed the 'AMD optimizer' on after the your hotfix 'Gar' PC is running fine do u think it makes a differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by GAR
i.e. is it worth deinstalling them all and then reinstalling them as u surgest 'post 1'
Zeus
If you had the hotfix installed before you did the optimizer, then your fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus...
I see u have changed 'first post' to reflex this - good - yesterday it had the optimzer to do firstQuote:
Originally Posted by GAR
BTW great work with this tread 'GAR' and if u dont mined me asking if u 'edit' the fiirst post could u please also post in thread as well so that subscribers get the notification of the change - hopr u don't mine me asking
Zeus
Thanks Zeus.....yeah just so everyone knows, the first post has been updated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus...
Was having issues with performance in CS: SQuote:
Originally Posted by GAR
did this and all is well.
Great work man thanks :woot: :clap:
Hey GAR, nice guide.:)
I had a Venice, but I sold it and I'm getting an X2. I have WinXP Pro, but only service pack 1. Would you recommend just installing the dual-core optimizer and doing the /usepmtimer registry edit? thanks
Thanks guys......Yes for sure install the AMD optimizer, and make sure your registry has /uspmtimer and you should be fine, i suggest moving to SP2.... ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Celcius
-GaR-
Great updated thread!!!!
Why AMD hasn't put this out in huge notices everywhere just kills me......
People are still confused----is this for me if I don't use CnQ----is this for me if I've disabled CnQ....is this for me if I've already used the hotfix....is this for me if I have a regular X2 and not an FX.....
Bottom line----if you are a gamer and use ANY kind of AMD Dual Core.......
Dual Opty
X2
Dual FX
What GAR describes is definitely for you. REGARDLESS of whether you use CnQ or don't use CnQ----enabled or disabled in BIOS----makes no difference---although you are probably a daring sort if you overclock AND use CnQ
Try it----you'll like it!
Hi All.
Good info, can't get it to work for me.
system specs:
MSI K8n Neo4 Platinum
x2 3800+
Windows XP sp2
multi-boot
Installed in order as listed out in first page, or at least tried to.
C boot, amdcpusetup v1.3.2 won't install, said need end user license before I can proceed, found v1.2.2 and same thing with that one.
D boot, amdcpusetup v1.3.2 won't install, this one said uninstall previous drivers, didn't know I had those drivers, uninstalled drivers and then installed new ones, same message, said need to uninstall old ones first, current driver version 5.1.2600. Ok I have some kind of driver installed so installed hotfix and that installed fine, did reg fix, reboot and my boot ini was already modified with usepmtimer for both winxp (does this mean it loads drivers like raid drivers?) Installed AMD Dual-Core Optimizer and on boot up I get bsod, bsod doesn't go away I try safe mode but that doesn't work so I delete switch on boot ini and go to last good boot and all works.
In games lag is very much reduced but still there minutely all the time instead of before like after 15-20 I used to get major slowdowns/lag, I change priority to single core and all is fine.
So the questions is cpu driver loaded prior to win desktop? How do I get around end user license and uninstall drivers? Any reason why after install of optimizer I get blue screen?
Thanks for any advice.
I hadn't been able to install AMD CPU driver 1.3.1 and 1.3.2. It just hangs at "installing the driver....." screen forever. I've backed down to 1.2.2 for now, but anyone experiencing similar problem? Any solution?
What I'm wondering is that is SP2 really needed for optimal performance having a dual core cpu? I did a SP1 vs SP2 test not that long ago on my single core A64 SD3700+ cpu. It turns out I get slightly better performance with SP1, altough it got better when I installed an AMD64 driver from AMDs homepage on SP2 (not the dual core driver), it added a bit better benchmark scores and running games felt smoother. However it didn't quite match the performance with SP1 and having no whatsoever cpu drivers installed. I've been comparing drivers, tweaks and such for years and I usually test both old games I've played a lot like from around 2000 and newer ones. So I'm good at noticing differences only by playing the games and look closely at how it runs (benchmark programs doesn't really reveal that good in which way it runs, only how fast it runs. You can have huge fps rates but still suffer from stuttering for example which is very disturbing). Without the cpu patch in SP2 UT1 for example looked like it had more minor acceleration and slowdowns without the cpu patch, it got better with the cpu patch but with SP1 it runs pretty much all the time with the same smooth and fast speed, other than running with face turned down towards the floor speeds it up a lot of course and small corridors (vsync off when testing of course).
I'm wondering if some1 with a dual core cpu actually have tried comparing SP1 without any hotfix and cpu drivers vs SP2 with these patches and both benchmarked and ran couple of games to see if there's any difference. I've read through this whole thread and found only 1 person that stated he runs SP1 and hasn't got these problems. Does these problems really appear on SP1 at all I wonder?
I'm prolly switching to an Opteron 165 soon (as soon as I find some1 willing to sell me one :rolleyes:) so I will prolly do similiar tests then in case no1 else have tried this.
Benchmarks and games I'd try would be at least following: 3Dmark01, 03, 05, Aquamark V3, FEAR benchmark utility, Quake 4 with dual core patch, Unreal Tournament 1, Quake 3, Halo, Call of Duty 2 and possibly UT2k4. I see many complained about CoD2 in this thread, on my single core 3700+ I can play this game from start to end without a single stutter (must be one of the smoothest gameplay I've experienced among newer games) so I should notice stutterings fairly easily if I experience those probs when switching to dual core. :)
well been running SP1 slipstreamed for a while with my FX60 no issues .... added a 4th Raptor found my XPProSP1 CD got damaged . had to install XPproSP2 ... Did the Hot fix as per PG 1 ( prior to last edit ) works flawless ( C&Q always disabled ) ... been running perfect @ 2.97 . spotted the optimiser last week installed it in the search for more performance ......immediatly after - every bench Locks up even stock and just over all runs slower Seems ( I did not and still have not installed any AMD proccessor drivers )
uninstalled the optimiser still locking up ... did a clean driver install for the Video and all is well ..... i'm gonna stick to just the Hot Fix
But i hafta say THX this thread is just plain great and very informative :toast:
Someone with Quake 4, run it with the "Multiple CPU/Core" setting set to "Yes" in game options and see if the cutscenes freezes on you. I have this problem with it using the Hotfix, the Dual Core Optimizer, and the AMD Drivers 1.32. If I change the "Multiple CPU/Core" setting to "No" in the game menu, this does not happen. Right at the beginning of the game after the dude turns around with the crater in his face and the ships start to fly by, as the big ship is flying by it just freezes. Also during the game when a cutscene happens it freezes. Dunno what the deal is with that game running these options.
OK, I seem to have found my problem. In the Quake cfg I had the setting "seta image_useCache" set to "1". My system with Quake 4 doesn't like that setting resulting in my problems posted above. Setting it to "0" fixed that cutscene freezing problem.
I can't get hotfix installed on my Chinese Windows XP as it popsup a window showing system language which is not English doesnt match for installation. I tried to get the Chinese version on Microsoft site last year but it told me I had to telephone their tech support in China to get these stuffs. Is there any international version of this hotfix? Many thanks.
classic leon