ATI HD 3800 Review Thread

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11-21-2007, 04:40 PM
mascaras

Quote:

Originally Posted by malik22

Do two 3870 in crossfire outperform two 8800gts 640 in sli?

yes

in my opinion Dual card solotion >> Crossfire best performance

:up:
11-21-2007, 07:46 PM
RaKLeZ

Has anybody tested 2x38x0 cf on the p35?

How big is the performance impact comparing to normal PCI-E lines (8/8 or 16/16)?...

I know that anandtech doesn`t recommend CF on the P35 due to performance loss (x16/x4 and immature drivers) but the tests were done with 2900XTs... and what`s the situation with 38x0s and current drivers? Has something changed?

any info?
11-21-2007, 11:35 PM
pphx459

Hmm.. 7.11 drivers are out, but no mention of crysis or cod4??

edit: just found this on techspot..
AMD has released an update to their Catalyst software suite, bringing the package up to version 7.11. This latest update focuses on stability rather than performance enhancements, according to AMD, fixing bugs in BioShock, Call of Juarez, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, Hellgate: London, and a handful of other titles.

The new drivers are available for Windows Vista 32-bit, Windows Vista 64-bit, Windows XP 32-bit, Windows XP 64-bit, Linux 32-bit and Linux 64-bit. AMD does advise, however, that Crysis players should stick to the Crysis Hotfix drivers released a few days ago.
11-22-2007, 03:27 AM
Unbornchild

Yes, was posted yesterday.
But can't be posted enough. :)
11-22-2007, 05:34 AM
Lugburz

Quote:

Originally Posted by mascaras

hi m8 , i also ordered two of them :D

(vamos ter que esperar mais uns dias os morcoes agarraram as poucas que xegaram :D)

:up:

Porra! :confused:
I have 2 DuOrb cooler for them already ;)
11-22-2007, 07:36 AM
mascaras

Quote:

ATI Set to Launch Offensive with ATI Radeon HD 3000 Pricing.
ATI Radeon HD 3000 Has Enough Pricing Flexibility – Sources

ATI, graphics product group of Advanced Micro Devices, may lower the pricing of its ATI Radeon HD 3000-series graphics processing units (GPUs) in weeks after the introduction in an attempt to recapture the lost market share from the No. 1 discrete GPU supplier Nvidia Corp. The decision will allow add-in board manufacturers to decrease the prices to end-users.

“Two weeks after the launch, the ATI RV670 drops the price,” a source familiar with the matter told X-bit labs.

The ATI Radeon HD 3850 with 256MB of GDDR3 memory begins at $179 manufactured suggested retail price (MSRP) and the ATI Radeon HD 3870 with 512MB GDDR4 memory from $219 MSRP, available from AMD’s selected graphics products partners. Unfortunately, not all suppliers of graphics cards could get the new boards on time from AMD.

Price reduction of the already not very expensive ATI Radeon HD 3800-series boards is likely to help AMD to capture attention of many end-users seeking for a new high-performance graphics cards for Christmas. Since the new lineup of graphics solutions support both DirectX 10.1 and high-definition video playback, the features demanded by end-users this year, the novelties truly have chances to become popular this holiday season.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/d...0_Pricing.html

:up:
11-22-2007, 07:47 AM
SKYMTL

Looks like the 55nm manufacturing process is turning out quite nicely for them
11-22-2007, 07:53 AM
Unbornchild

Quote:

to capture attention of many end-users seeking for a new high-performance graphics cards for Christmas.

Well certainly. I'm still hesitating: shall i wait for the X2 version, or buy 2 x 3870 and be happy now. BUT it is not even available at Komplett!!!:mad: Yeah, they had a few at launch date, but now they say availability January! :(
To not even mention the shops in my town, not one has the 3780 in stock...
Lowering the price is nice, but p[lease AMD/ATI: deliver the card asap! :(
11-22-2007, 08:02 AM
TheSamurai

they're hitting newegg here and there... but they're gone faster then they came!!!
11-22-2007, 08:14 AM
jimmyz

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSamurai

they're hitting newegg here and there... but they're gone faster then they came!!!

new egg isn't getting any in it is the morons who put them in their cart hoping to talk mommy into buying them , then after 72 hours when the cards aren,t paid for the egg returns them to stock. that is why all the new stuff sells out so quick ...they never even leave the warehouse.
IMO they should not remove them from stock until order is submitted.
11-22-2007, 08:18 AM
Lightman

Great news from ATI/AMD!

I'm glad I've got 2xHD3870 for 133 pounds each but looks like shortly they will be even cheaper! :)
11-22-2007, 08:20 AM
mascaras

i think next week lot of them in shops :up:

regards
11-22-2007, 08:27 AM
Yakyb

will next weeks version be shipped with the latest bios (not that it matters just quite interested)
11-22-2007, 09:03 AM
DangeR!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yakyb

will next weeks version be shipped with the latest bios (not that it matters just quite interested)

More than likely. I think I read some where that all new cards will be shipped with the new BIOS update. Considering all the cards are sold every were, the new stock must be the new cards + BIOS update.
11-22-2007, 09:58 AM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyz

new egg isn't getting any in it is the morons who put them in their cart hoping to talk mommy into buying them , then after 72 hours when the cards aren,t paid for the egg returns them to stock. that is why all the new stuff sells out so quick ...they never even leave the warehouse.
IMO they should not remove them from stock until order is submitted.

That isn't how it works...
I had two in my cart last night and by the time I found my CC they were gone, after hitting checkout...
11-22-2007, 10:14 AM
Lugburz

Quote:

Originally Posted by mascaras

i think next week lot of them in shops :up:

regards

I hope so m8! This 8500GT is really killing me :shrug:

Saw today 2x3850CF at default seemed ok but didn´t saw any tests with them made...
11-22-2007, 11:00 AM
RAW-Raptor22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugburz

I hope so m8! This 8500GT is really killing me :shrug:

Saw today 2x3850CF at default seemed ok but didn´t saw any tests with them made...

This 8500GT that im using (grandma's pc in idaho...) got 670/1789/520.... the gddr2 sucks ass though... 7357 3dmark05, beats 7900GS and x800XT-PE... :rofl:

And only 16 shaders....
11-22-2007, 02:26 PM
zerazax

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEC911

That isn't how it works...
I had two in my cart last night and by the time I found my CC they were gone, after hitting checkout...

Yep they're selling like hotcakes... I think Visiontek's 3870 was put up and gone within a few hours...

They're getting new shipments in this Friday and next Monday and will continue to do so, will be interesting to see how many more come in...
11-22-2007, 07:51 PM
justin_c

Diamond xDNA coming soon?

Friday, according to this post: http://forum.ncix.com/forums/index.p...oduct_id=26983
11-22-2007, 08:37 PM
malik22

Quote:

Originally Posted by mascaras

yes

in my opinion Dual card solotion >> Crossfire best performance

:up:

Better performance then than two gt also? im talkin in game not in benchmarks
and does crossfire scale well at lower resolution then 1600 1200?
11-22-2007, 08:50 PM
ChaosMinionX

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin_c

Friday, according to this post: http://forum.ncix.com/forums/index.p...oduct_id=26983

Well on the back of my Diamond box it has xDna in big rough looking letters, so I would imagine its not very far off indeed :)
11-22-2007, 10:20 PM
zerazax

Is it indeed a driver or a plug-in card?

Either way, very interesting to see. Suddenly, with powerful cards that are affordable enough to be CF'd, having a broad base of CF-able motherboards has made these cards very tempting
11-23-2007, 12:36 AM
Aivas47a

Quote:

Originally Posted by mascaras

yes

in my opinion Dual card solotion >> Crossfire best performance

:up:

How does 3870 CF compare to single 8800GTX? I have X38 and would like to support the red for a change. Advice appreciated! :D
11-23-2007, 01:09 AM
Yakyb

hmm interesting my HIS 3850 arrived yesterday so i immediately had alook at the box to read the features and on the back

read
full directx10.1 with shader model 4 support

with tape over the

'.1 with shader model 4 support'
so it only read

'full directx 10'

is there an issue with this? or is it just done because the .1 isnt out yet
11-23-2007, 04:05 AM
hstuehmeyer2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yakyb

hmm interesting my HIS 3850 arrived yesterday so i immediately had alook at the box to read the features and on the back

read
full directx10.1 with shader model 4 support

with tape over the

'.1 with shader model 4 support'
so it only read

'full directx 10'

is there an issue with this? or is it just done because the .1 isnt out yet

i heard that they did that not to confuse people?

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