RD600 first look and general questions

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12-12-2006, 08:45 PM
MrDeeds

Bingo, could you show us your 9x multi fsb max.
12-12-2006, 08:47 PM
dinos22

if bingo13 can run orthos or dual 32M at lower speeds it isn't software related.......it's just stability issue there that's it

i've had some Venices run at 2.8Ghz even if 1M superPI could not finish and it ran application stable for months lol so i don't see a major issue with that anyways heheheh :D
12-12-2006, 08:51 PM
Raja@ASUS

I;ve experienced what Bingo has too at times. There is a need for a new test to be compiled by someone for Conroe I think. IN the modern age people demand evidence in some form or another so tests have to be run. Maybe not so much on XS, but globally and amongst more casual people you have to provide some means of evidence supporting your results..

Back on topic, I think 500fsb is plenty for most, not everyone perhaps, but it's certainly enough for the bigger market where the profits come from..

regards
Raja
12-12-2006, 09:39 PM
mnemonik23

Bingo/Tony, so what about SATA/RAID? Any issues/errors?
12-12-2006, 09:43 PM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnemonik23

Bingo/Tony, so what about SATA/RAID? Any issues/errors?

i think bingo already said somewhere it works and works well.
12-12-2006, 09:52 PM
mnemonik23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revv23

i think bingo already said somewhere it works and works well.

did he? I did not see the responce yet :confused:

Last time bingo wrote that he used hdd image 7 times and I wanted to find out if that because of RAID got corrupted after locks/reboot as a result of experiments with OC, OR there are SATA/RAID errors/lockups while running HDD untils (like with current 680i mobos).
12-12-2006, 11:06 PM
Kin Hell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trice

Ive been without my desktop since October......I have a 628B 660 sitting here as well as 2 GB of RAM, and all I need is a MB!! I just want to run 3.6 and RAID 0!

LOL M8y...same here. Another month or 2 is kinda sucking for me too, ....but sh1t happens eh! :D
My Amiga is keeping me in touch! ;)

Also Special Thanks to Tony & the others bringing us this info. Nice one lads & keep it coming! :)
12-12-2006, 11:35 PM
Trice

Yeah I can wait I guess, final is on Friday then nothing for awhile. My lappy (in sig) isnt too bad so far. Glad I got the bigger screen.

Anyway, thanks for all the info guys!
12-13-2006, 12:35 AM
virtualrain

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

if bingo13 can run orthos or dual 32M at lower speeds it isn't software related.......it's just stability issue there that's it

QFT. Orthos and Super PI are just doing math... if the system can't do math error free... it's not stable! It really doesn't get any simpler! There is a reason that Prime95 and Orthos are used for stability testing... From the Wikipedia article...

Quote:

On an absolutely stable system, Prime95 would run indefinitely. If an error occurs (the tray icon will become yellow from the default red, indicating that the test has halted), there is a chance that the system is unstable. There is an ongoing debate about terms "stable" and "Prime-stable", as Prime95 often fails before the system becomes unstable or crashes in any other application. This is because Prime 95 is designed to subject the CPU to an incredibly intense workload, and to halt when it encounters even one minor error, whereas most normal applications do not stress the CPU anywhere near as much, and will continue to operate unless they encounter a fatal error.
12-13-2006, 01:06 AM
erwinz

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeeds

Bingo, could you show us your 9x multi fsb max.

I'm also interested in this.. :)

is 9 x 450fsb stable?? or you can do 9x500fsb with just xtreme cooling.. :)

@ALL

let not judge an early product jsut yet.. :) look at DFI Infinity 975x.. at first many problems.. now the OC is fying.. :)
12-13-2006, 04:03 AM
775911

Prime is not a perfect test for stability Ive found, since Ive had rigs it was stable with under load but actually unstable doing normal things. The russian one that tests the gpu and psu as well is far harder, thats the true test imo
12-13-2006, 04:20 AM
Aerou

Quote:

Originally Posted by 775911

Prime is not a perfect test for stability Ive found, since Ive had rigs it was stable with under load but actually unstable doing normal things. The russian one that tests the gpu and psu as well is far harder, thats the true test imo

which one?
12-13-2006, 04:39 AM
Poodle

Not to go further off topic... but doesn't TAT stress the C2D harder than Prime?
12-13-2006, 04:47 AM
Nosfer@tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeeds

Bingo, could you show us your 9x multi fsb max.

Yes that is what we need.

people ALWAYS post those dammed 7 and 8 x multi :(

AND SO WHAT?

Give us the max fsb for a E6600, most of us have that :D:toast:
12-13-2006, 05:30 AM
mnemonik23

bump for SATA/RAID
12-13-2006, 06:58 AM
Gambit_2K

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poodle

Not to go further off topic... but doesn't TAT stress the C2D harder than Prime?

It does temperaturewise but TAT can't fail so it won't show you any errors (atleast not for me).

Btw Tony, Bingo or DFI Rep :) It there any truth to the rumor that Oscar Wu worked so hard ont the bios mainly because support will be really limited?
12-13-2006, 07:06 AM
shimmishim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aerosupra

which one?

my guess is OCCT v0.91 unless it's been updated since last year.

i haven't used that in forever :)
12-13-2006, 07:12 AM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by raju

Hi Bingo,

Was the issue on Orthos blend or large and small fft tests?

Trouble with application stable is sometimes providing evidence en masse in a write up. There appears to be no real software the hammers every section of the motherboard simultaneously and provides a report at the end, that's the only reason I use it.

bf2 fails at stock too sometimes..

the other question is that if orthos blend passes at stock, why does it fail at overclock?..

I've had 3d marks pass and games fail too, orthos pass and games fail, you name it. Perhaps this spells the need of someone to step forwards with some new testing software that generates an evidence of pass, and can fulfil a real stern test of Conroe/chipset/ram/gpu all neatly in one package..

regards
Raja

The Orthos test was set to blend. I can get it to pass when overclocking but then my apps are not always stable with settings that Orthos likes. I cannot get it to pass for more than a few minutes at DDR2-866 3-3-3-6 1T with some very aggressive sub-timings but 4-4-3 is fine. However, I let the system loop 3D06 all night without an issue while looping a three minute AVI file in the background at the 3-3-3 settings. I still think Orthos needs an update as each new chipset or processor release just brings up further problems (questions) with it.
12-13-2006, 07:14 AM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnemonik23

Bingo/Tony, so what about SATA/RAID? Any issues/errors?

I am not having any issues so far with the SB600 RAID while overclocking, the Promise setup is a little different. I plan on spending the evening doing an entire series of RAID tests with three Raptors before I start writing our Preview Article for this week. This board is going to need a couple of reviews to cover everything. ;)
12-13-2006, 07:18 AM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

if bingo13 can run orthos or dual 32M at lower speeds it isn't software related.......it's just stability issue there that's it

i've had some Venices run at 2.8Ghz even if 1M superPI could not finish and it ran application stable for months lol so i don't see a major issue with that anyways heheheh :D

Lower speeds is not the issue, looser timings will cure Orthos but places me into some issues with applications at the same speed. I will post an Orthos shot shortly and tell me if you notice something weird. :D I just think Orthos needs an update. I have had issues with it since Conroe launched and it gets worse with each new chipset. Conroe on Bearlake is even worse. ;)
12-13-2006, 07:19 AM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeeds

Bingo, could you show us your 9x multi fsb max.

I will, but all it will prove is that my E6600 will not do more than 3.65 on air. :p:
12-13-2006, 07:29 AM
mnemonik23

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

I am not having any issues so far with the SB600 RAID while overclocking, the Promise setup is a little different. I plan on spending the evening doing an entire series of RAID tests with three Raptors before I start writing our Preview Article for this week. This board is going to need a couple of reviews to cover everything. ;)

Thank you! I'm looking forward for your review and I hope it will be completed before 15th :rolleyes:
12-13-2006, 07:55 AM
Gascogne

Is it Bingo and Tony who has the board?

If possible I would like to see some 4x1Gb ram tests. :)
12-13-2006, 08:41 AM
XeRo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gascogne

Is it Bingo and Tony who has the board?

If possible I would like to see some 4x1Gb ram tests. :)

I believe RGone also has a board.
12-13-2006, 08:59 AM
Gambit_2K

Asus working on a RD600 board

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,5262.html

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