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Originally Posted by 96redformula
I doubt it, 26th March the NDA is done, and reviews will be up.
Skymtl just posted over at HardwareCanucks to stay tuned after the PAX reveal tomorrow as we "won't be dissapointed". I assume that means the reviews will start coming out after the PAX event...
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9...nchristian.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by 96redformula
ketchup or mustard? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
I interpret the "won't be dissappointed" as the cards are really damn good, so we won't be dissappointed. :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by aver
There is a big hour-long announcement show tomorrow at 6PM, including some special guests. It will be streamed online but you will miss the effect not being there in person ( http://www.nvidia.com/object/paxeast.html )
The reason you will miss the effect is because they have a huge 3D projection wall powered by eight SLI computers and $75,000 3D projectors ( http://twitter.com/andrewfear )
According to my convo with NVIDIA, the live video stream has been cancelled due to the show only being broadcast in 3D. So, you won't be able to watch it over the internet as far as I know.
Sky, when exactly does the NDA expire and we'll be able to read your review?
It's going to be like a DoS attack on the review sites!!
But inside doesn't matter...Quote:
Originally Posted by DosDuoNo
I think the game developers never say the games are NVIDIA or ATI optimized, more likely they would deny that even if it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by trinibwoy
I remember when reading the following post of yours about GF100 possible launch date, l was a little worried that the Metro 2033 might be another TWIMTBG game. So why are you surprised that some people might got the same impression based on "random forum ramblings?"
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Originally Posted by trinibwoy
you are soooo RED it hurtsQuote:
Originally Posted by 96redformula
The tests were on 10.2's, and LOL @ saying that the 10.3's offer 20% more performance globally over them... he is indeed so red it hurts. I may be light green, but at least I'm not BRIGHTLY colored (red or green).Quote:
Originally Posted by E30M3
My card still shows scheduled shipment of tomorrow... (homer simpson drool). Shame I won't receive it until Monday if that's the case though, since they don't offer Saturday delivery service.
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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
how can a card that isnt officially out be shipped to you ??? i hope they did an error....
but it looks phisy
Well then you can call me brown and hoping nvidia can deliver, we need the competition!
@snowman :
it's something called pre-order... you order, they get and send the day they get em, hopefully for goldentiger that'll be tomorrow :p
Re-read the post. I said that they show scheduled ship date of tomorrow... delivery to them, then ship to me. No saturday delivery means it would arrive to me on Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n
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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
so .... putting it on a site for sale even beffore nvidia even declared the product out = fail .... re analyse my post ..... it sounds phishy
$5 you wont have it monday :PQuote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
Isn't there slides saying when nvidia will be shipping out etc and it's not yet :S?
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Originally Posted by Jamesrt2004
dunno about the slides but its official that there is no official release date as of yet ..... so like you said i doubt hes getting it monday
It's ingram micro distro links that do it automatically, not them directly... a lot of sites in the past have put pages up for them in advance for the last several launches ;). Not fishy at all. If I'm lucky they'll get it tomorrow, it will ship, and I'll have it Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n
Thanks to trinibwoy for these graphs of those numbers:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5575/480bench.png
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6420/480bench2.png
benchies at guru 26th
from what i just seen you guys are going to have to eat some humble pie and crow.
or just find stupid sit to rag on nv about
You could be the first to receive a fermi, I am sure you'll let us know and I doubt the card will sit in the box for more than a few seconds. Hope you receive it Monday are you close to the e-tailer to get it in 1 day?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
guru3D review has 35 pages of content right now
http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.ph...1&postcount=23
I smell a secret weapon driver or last min optimization (BIOS) that's going to make the RED guys :mad: and wake the beast :shocked: within Fermi.Quote:
Originally Posted by aver
There is a ton of hype around this card and they aren't going to keep it quiet tomorrow with 8 PC SLI? + 75K projector in 3D? However their claims of 2X faster than current cards could be synthetic tests etc. Hope that's not the case and we're all impressed.
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I think everybody will make a 30+ review. I know I will :)
Looks like we have a lot of reading ahead! Always exciting times when new generations of cards come out
Wishful thinking. It's just a damn release :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
Well, just going off those graphs trinibwoy made, its faster but not 2X fasterQuote:
There is a ton of hype around this card and they aren't going to keep it quiet tomorrow with 8 PC SLI? + 75K projector in 3D? However their claims of 2X faster than current cards could be synthetic tests etc. Hope that's not the case and we're all impressed.
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They are in PA, a couple states from me, and I ordered with 2-day air shipping, so I am assuming hypothetically if it ships tomorrow that it would arrive Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
They said, in the WSJ article, "twice as fast as nVidia's current generation" NOT twice as fast as any current card.Quote:
Originally Posted by zerazax
I preorderd one too! But GoldenTiger used faster shipping :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
And where does the comparison to a GTX 285 in the chart and my statement contradict what Nvidia said?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
Is that not "nVidia's current generation?"
And what context was their statement based on anyways? Sure, if they ran the Heaven benchmark and said "look, 2x faster than our current GTX285"?
I mean heck, those numbers are from Nvidia's own chart, which people were trumpeting earlier
I have no idea how the hell you guys can preorder something that you have absolutely no idea of. It's not a $10 spending either, it's frikking 550 dollars
Faith is a wonderful thing. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
i do like this kind of work, but think he can give us something like 4870x2 vs 5870. so we can see how it does vs doubling the old card (i suck at nvidia specs so i dont know what half of 480 would be stats wise)Quote:
Originally Posted by zerazax
Wise words I've heard: Forget what people claim their allegiances are too.. how they spend their money speaks louder than words! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RSC
I did that with the 8800 Ultra and it was $1,000.00 Canadian at the time. I was into overclocking and hwbot back then and it was excellent fun. It was a fairly long lived card as far as benchmarking was concerned, played games really well too.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
This, but I'm just after the best gaming card for personal enjoyment... I don't really care about benching nowadays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just learnin'
It's not like it isn't returnable if it turns out to be really pathetic... I'll know in advance and be able to refuse shipment if so, but it would have to be very bad for me to do so: I haven't had a good experience with the 5870, so I am pretty much settled on the GTX 480. I haven't spent a dime yet ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by zerazax
I had an 8800 Ultra as well back in my day, although I'm not sure I could justify paying that much for a small improvement again (granted, I was one of the frontrunners of 2560x1600 so every bit helped), but the level of dominance of the G80 over the market was definitely the exception and not the ruleQuote:
Originally Posted by Just learnin'
Now that we're back in competition and roughly yearly releases (and a slowdown in PC graphic demands it seems), getting a good enough card for my money has been a wiser decision.
well the G80s were an excellent generation. For example I'M sure the guys who preordered GTX 280 thought this was the worst decision ever in their lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just learnin'
Yeah I saw a few people who pre-ordered 3 GTX280s... only to have to endure the $100+ price drop per card + the abomination known as the 7xx series chipsets :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
we are getting closer to the 90 page mark and still no fermi in sight
Day before launch & Sn0wm@n keeps complaining...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n
Are you this pessimistic about everything, reviewers have cards, nda lifts tomorrow, we have the supposed final specs of the cards, we've seen box art as well as physical pictures of the cards.
Out of the 90 pages you've probably made 90 comments of the same nature...
No, he just desperately wants Fermi to be a gigantic flop. Why, is he an AMD shareholder? No. Then why? He doesn't know. He just feels that way.
Maybe because my comment was related to marketing and saaya's was related to software engineering? One is fluff, the other is material.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinz68
There is no guarantee that you will get a good experience from the 480 either. As Carfax has repeatedly reminded us, the drivers for this architecture are relatively immature at this point. So while there should be a speed increase with future drivers (I'd guess at least 6% :)) there is the flip side that until the good drivers come out we will have to deal with the bugs that haven't been found yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
Yeah that's tricky. There's no 1/2 Fermi equivalent in the GT200 generation to compare to easily. Best you can do is break down the theoreticals but since the architectures are pretty different that won't tell you much either. Average performance advantage over the GTX 285 was ~45% in Nvidia's benchmarks. That's fine for a refresh but kinda low for a new generation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
I think the 8800 Ultra was the most overpriced Graphic Card ever. Even more than GTX 280 for $650 was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just learnin'
The Ultra was mainly higher clocked 8800 GTX for which I paid 600 CAD also not cheap but great card for the time. It's hard to believe that somebody was happy to pay 1000 CAD for the 8800 Ultra and I believe very few people did even buy that card.
I paid 700 CAD for the HD 5970, also overpriced but mainly due to the vendors price gouging and AMD not supplying enough of the cards to retail. The MSRP for the the HD 5970 is (or was) 599 USD.
Actually 5870 is %40 above 4870 too, but it can just be counted as a refresh :D
is it just me, or is this page 66?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n
new rumor: the gtx480 consumes enough power to pop all the breakers in your house and produces enough heat to then set your house on fire.
5870 is more like 50% above 4870. 40% above 4890.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/h...ting_qualitaet
New rumour: Nvidia buys the number 66, changes it to 90, just to screw with you. They do hate babies and all....Quote:
Originally Posted by 570091D
Oh, and GTX480 is actually 28" long, they just scale everything to it in all the pictures and videos.
oops sorry. I meant 4890Quote:
Originally Posted by Solus Corvus
I also had the HD 4870 X2 and believe me it can hardly be called just a refresh.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Actually it is the first time I hear that the HD 5*** cards are just a refresh of the HD 4*** cards. So I don't get it what is the big smiley for.
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Sorry I posted before I did noticed your oops edit
35+ pages in review, good lord there's gotta be some juicy stuff in there. CANNOT WAIT!
A refresh can make nVidia silent for half a year? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
34 of them with pictures of the test setup :rofl::ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by -Sweeper_
last page is 2 sec from unigine and hair demo to satisfy all nvidia zealots with 3x lead :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by jmke
You know, its not about being a fanboy...but personal preference. One faces many questions...but the answers doesn't have to be rational, although it may seem absurd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yvese
Besides, there are many things numbers doesn't tell us about a product: such as personal experience. NVIDIA is more expensive than ATI at the same performance...but they give you more (cuda, physx, 3d, etc). Is that more worth it? That depends exclusively on you.
What I can tell you is that there are some things that just don't work well with ATI, like 120hz, screen flickering like using dual screens and such things. Yea, its unlikely, but 1+1 = 2...and internet is fully plagued of those errors...and they piss people off, seriously. I can imagine how has one to feel when he buys a 120hz TFT screen not to work on his newly come DX11 card :rofl::rofl::rofl:
Well, basically GTX480 is a doubled GTX285 (I don't know about rops) except the bandwith. 240 vs 480SP and 675 vs 700mhz core.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
its hard to say that a 480 is a doubled 285. if you oversimplify to that point there really isnt much difference in any gpu. try comparing g70 to g80 on an alu or flops basis and you will realize that its a pretty abstract number.
It's not just him, we're on page 67 now... people saying page 90 have a low post-per-page count in their user options :p:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sushi Warrior
Yup, page 67 now, but it was 66 at the time of your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by 570091D
That is a good point, but I have more faith in nVidia to deliver a well-working driver on a new card than I do in ATI from my own experiences, especially considering the 5870 didn't work well for me the 480 sure can't be any worse (I'd hope!) :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Solus Corvus
It's already 26.03.2010 here, someone send me a review and i can post it :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
No. Clearly you don't know anything about GPU architectures.Quote:
Originally Posted by prava
:rofl:
Apparrently Anandtech didn't want to chance maxing out there 850W psu on Fermi :).
http://anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus...oc.aspx?i=3780
I'm waiting for any kind of "leaked benchmark" posts any time now.
dont make any posts in this thread unless it's a full review from now on, you're just going to disappoint me
In quite a few games 5870 is pretty much a double of 4870, so not sure where this 40% nonsense is coming from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solus Corvus
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...-GPUs-1920.png
I think they're just taking the average across the board numberQuote:
Originally Posted by SimBy
But yes, in newer games, the newer cards have pulled ahead... look at the 5850 vs GTX 285 in that graph for instance
nonsense? you pick one game and from one review site and that's what determines performance? the fact that a 4890 is 50% faster than a 4870 looks fishy to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by SimBy
still no awesome news?? no leaked actual benches from someone who definately has the card?? the leaked benches we have seen thus far i dont 100% trust
They said they wanted extra overhead in case TWO fermi's possibly overclocked came close to max'ing their 850w... I don't get the funny?Quote:
Originally Posted by 96redformula
I get it. It's funny :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
and BTW your not green you are NEONgreen :D
I'm a MIX of colors and I do hope for nvidias sake they got a winner on their hands.
Even though I could afford to buy one I most likely will not and that's only because of Jen-Hsun Huang.
I'm not neon green or otherwise, I have a slight preference toward nV cards because of personal experience... I am not a fanboy who wishes, like many on these boards lately, that one or the other company falls on its face and dies :p:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toysoldier
I still don't get what's funny about thinking two high-TDP cards might, under high load, overdo it on an 850w power supply with a high-end rig... guess you have to be dark red to get it? Me calling you a fanboy makes about as much sense as you calling me one, so let's go with it ;)!
Because a high TDP, dual card is the 5970, which does not need a 850W power supply.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
5970 is a single card with dual-GPU's that are cut back and lowered clocks to fit inside a 300w power envelope. A single Fermi is supposed to be 250w TDP roughly. So again, if you put say two 5970's in a rig and were worried, why would it be "funny" to say "LOL ATI, THEY HAD TO USE A BIGGER PSU FOR TWO 300w CARDS LULZ"? Again, they are talking about TWO high-TDP cards: what on earth can that say that is "funny"? I guess if you were an ATI-fanboy you might think it's funny because it takes a lot of power, I guess?Quote:
Originally Posted by cegras
I don't find it "funny" per say, but you must admit it's a little bit ridiculous how much power fermi presumably takes. :poke:Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
I guess, I don't really find it any more ridiculous than a 5970 though :shrug:. I think I'm going to have to chalk this one up to "I don't get it" :p:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly Fox
its fermi humor ..... its suposed to be funny
I guess the idea is that the 5970 gets a pass since it's 2 gpu's on one card. Or somethin. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
I'm still as perplexed as you though as to what's laugh out loud funny here though. :rofl:
I think he meant its funny because they needed to use a 850W+ PSU for a dual card setup while the 5890 can easily do it. :shrug:Remember 5890 is a dual card regardless you wouldn't go comparing 4 GPUs vs 2. Small misunderstanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
Back on topic, when does the NDA end? 12 pm EST? :rolleyes:
I see what you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by kazuyakun
NDA is supposedly over at 7pm EST, which is when nVidia's PAX East show ends.
...which equals 2PM UK time....
7pm EST at GMT -0500. Isn't UK +0100? That would be 1am UK time then, Saturday morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biker
goldentiger, maybe we shouldn't feed the trolls....
It's actually 4 hours, so it will be 11PM (today) in the UK, because it's already Friday here. :)
True true... I just feel sorry for the starving critters, they used to be so plump and big! :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by 570091D
They're bottom feeders, they'll eat anything & throw feces anyways. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 570091D
http://www.provantage.com/pny-techno...b~7PNY90P3.htm
$485.80 GTX 480 Fermi listing. Think I'm going to cancel my $513 order that had 2-day shipping ($22) and see what hits stores tomorrow...
yup.
My bad.
It is midnight Friday...
Too sleepy for calculations :D
EST = UK time - 5 hours...
I'm gonna stick with it. My total with shipping was $522. Maybe not the greatest, but when it comes right down to it, a better deal would be, what, ~$30 cheaper? I'd like to feel secure that I have one with my name on it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
Highly recommend them, they got me my HD5850 for $250 shipped shortly after release :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
Still, *1.2 FREAKING Kilo-Watts*, "just in case", "just to be safe"... That's indeed very funny. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by 96redformula
To power a Quad SLI 480 setup, you'll need this:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/me...15A9A006_1.jpg
That's because it is a beast and deserves your respect! Respect the Fermi, I'm hoping to see Guru3D review in 5 minutes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly Fox
Yeah, I probably jumped the gun canceling mine (sent them an email)... I just shouldn't have splurged on the 2-day mainly :p:.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElSel10
Provantage is a good company, they will come through on the order if they show it "in-stock", they usually specify how many they do have in stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
Edit: I just noticed it says "special order", for them that usually means they will order it from you, but it ships from the manufacturer or has a waiting time for it to come in stock...
Lol, I dont know how many times I've thought, "I wish I DID splurg on the faster shipping!" :rofl: Screw patience :up: Airshipping all the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
no reviews till nda expires at 7pm est....
Haha, too true... I can think of many times I have thought I SHOULD have gone for faster shipping, and only one where I vaguely regretted doing so (overnight for $20 more over ground, and even then I didn't really think it was bad per say).Quote:
Originally Posted by Chickenfeed
EDIT: I feel like a tool doing so, but I'm emailing them asking them to disregard my last email and hoping for the best... :p: . I'd rather not have to camp out newegg tomorrow hoping I get an order in etc. etc. Guess I'll find out in the morning if it gets cancelled on me or not :(.
NDA up yet? Need benchmarks, numbers, fan noises .... anything.
looks weak and fake imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by zerazax
Hey guys, thanks for that Provantage web! Never heard before, and is a relief to have a world shipping web site in the hand, au revior importers and that 30% extra product charge!