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i will repost my previous question again
I got hang of the volt settings, but still dont understand quite well the CPU GTL reference and the NB GTL reference. would someone be so kind as to explain what is the difference between AUTO settings and x63, x67, etc.?
please guys cmon, could someone explain in plain words the difference between auto settings ang the gtl´s references.?
I just mounted Thermalright HR-05 IFX on both SB + NB
But i still get strange temps on NB. Like 45c idle - 50c load.
I´ve talked to 2 more ppl that has a NON-SE board with IFX cooler on and they also get around 50c load with a fan blowing on it.
Is the NON-SE version known for being hotter or?
I´ll try to remount my IFX cooler tomorrow and see what happends.
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Originally Posted by zoob
have u tried any other probbing application?
unfort. asus probe just doesnt cut it... when i switched my vga from pcie1 to pcie2 i got bsod all over when trying to run asus probe and asus suite... does this makes any sense? even if the irq steering from the chipset drivers got messed up somehow would make no sense again.. i mean this is probing we´re talkin about..reinstalling the apps no go too... so i forgot it and went for everest and also pc wizzard (from the guys of cpuz).
[QUOTE=Nuckin_Futs;2608979]If you're using the E6750, you dont need 40 strap to get 5:6. You can get 5:6 in Auto strap or 333 maunal (under v0903, manual strap under 901/902).
This can work and I did something like this in the past for another project. This is liek a natural convection stove pipe method. If the pipes to the barbs in and out are copper, one end will heat, creating high preasure, and if the other end is outside the case (near cool floor or hanging outside cold window) the cold air will create low preasure and in turn makes a natural convection of cold air moving in to NB barbs and sucked out hot end (area heated by NB chipset). You can also try just a funneled breather into one barb, in-line w/ case intake fan, and out-take pipe towards rear fan.
This actually can work and is better with a pump/fan as I did this for my Chevy 454 with a smog pump to pump air through block since I did not need smog unit. Th cooled air from outside cooled through ported heads.
Just something to play round with and try. As for dust, not that hard to check up on it and blow out with compressed air can.
Precisely.. thats what i thought. thks for the insight!
This Thread at FCG's site tells you what GTL is all about:
http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=87
and this from Anandtech also:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3156&p=6
On a side note my Q6600 scales FSB better with GTL CPU set at the highest level on Bios 0903
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Originally Posted by Ozan Baseski
Hi there,
maybe you have a faulty board? the pcie 1 on my first formula didnt work, had to rma.
Hey Zoob / Ninogui my Probe does that in XP also somtimes when testing. For me it meant it would fail Prime or OCCT at some stage soon. After uping FSBT voltage and /or MACH voltage it would be fine again and the rig running stable.
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Originally Posted by DMight
Hi
sometimes happened to me something close to that: when the board doesnt like the bios settings i´ve entered it starts up and before the first beep it shuts down... then starts up again after 4 seconds and shows off the f1 to enter bios screen. Never had to clr cmos though.. once or twice it did the process and on the second run it would shutdown by himself.. definitely, until i hit the main "on" switch to up again. This on bios 0903. Maybe you´ve entered different testing bios settings before shutting down for the night?
Sorry..Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
with that screen saver i was unable to look at your results. lololol
can u post them again with no screen saver?
no... just kiddin....
precisely, that happened to my before, alt at vga bios. the pcie 1 just stopped working after a few boots on a new built mobo, no OC´s !! switched to pcie 2 and all ok. then rma´d the board a got a new one, all ok for 2 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
only strange thing i still couldnt figure out, even using microsoft´s bootvis is that afterwards with a new board, no XP reinstall and the vga on pcie 1 the loading your settings startup XP screen stops for 8 seconds before final loading... no disk activity, so i wonder which service or application is delaying the whole thing that didnt before, just by switching pcie 2 to 1 on a new similar board.
Short Memtest and OCCT run:
http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=4...00strapi6i.png
http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=4...00strapln4.png
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Originally Posted by ninogui
No I can`t reach that, too. But I solved my problem with the 400strap with this settings:
Fine for 3hours, hope it will be more :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by eSp!s0
http://www.abload.de/thumb/450x81200ram400strapbep.png
BIOS 0903
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency :450
FSB Strap to North Bridge :333mhz
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-901
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 10
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 3
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 7
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: ENABLED
Ai Clock Twister : LIGHT
Transaction Booster : DISABLED (1)
CPU Voltage : 1.43750v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53v
DRAM Voltage : 2.12v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125v
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1.../Capture-8.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...Capture2-2.jpg
The memory is tuned as far as I could get it without increasing voltages too much, the AI clock twister was set to light, as on moderate or strong the board isnt very stable, transaction booster to DISABLED (1) with DRAM STATIC READ ENABLED is faster than AI CLOCK TWISTER (STRONG) and TRANSACTION BOOSTER DISABLED(2) with DRAM STATIC READ (ENABLED).
Enjoy :)
Thanks for the thoughts. I've tried the 2nd PCIE slot and I get the same problem. I've taken out the video card the ram and the cpu, reseated them all. If I don't have RAM in the board I get error beeps from the ext. speaker. If I don't have video card the system POSTs to the point of CHECKCPU, which I believe is a BIOS CMOS check. With everything re-seated, I get no error beep, just gets to the point of initializing video and then stops...with the video card in either slot. When I had everything taken out of the motherboard I set the clr_cmos switch to DISABLED and removed the 3v CMOS battery, let it sit for a few minutes, then put the battery back in and re-installed everything. It does not appear to have cleared the BIOS.
So...either the BIOS is fubar and is therefore not seeing the video card? Or, this motherboard killed my video card? WTF? Currently on hold with ASUS, they suggested earlier that I remove the 3v battery and gave me the steps to do so. The guy never suggested that the video card might be bad.
To back up my previous post about performance with 0903:
http://www.cyberimpressions.net/imag...erestBench.jpg
Simply outstanding.
Transaction Booster to Disabled, Relax set to 0, DRAM Static Read to Enabled, Clock Twister to Strong.
Is that stable? what are your other timings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade5399
It's 100% stable. Been running this way for a few days now. 3 hours OCCT RAM stable. 30 minutes of 3dmark06 looping stable. 1 hour Orthos Blend stable. 2 hours OCCT "Blend" (slider in the middle) stable. Been playing games, folding, benching, etc for the last 3 days with no BSODs or reboots or lost WUs. As far as the RAM sub timings, I will have to get Memset going or do a reboot and look at them. I have left those on Auto for now as I was trying to get the main parts stable first. This is with 4x1GB sticks at DDR2 1215. Parts list in the sig.
They should be called hot air pipes. Water pipes are something totally different.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninogui
:rofl: :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by ninogui
Well, I'm glad you guys are having such good luck with 0903...it was brilliantly stable for me at first and then it killed my motherboard.
I just got off the phone with ASUS tech support and RMA, they're calling it a bad flash. The guy I spoke to said that every time you flash the BIOS there is a 25% chance that something will go wrong even if it's a good flash.
The RMA process is 10 days AFTER they receive the board. This blows.
Oh, and I tried a brand new video card in the PCIE slots as well and got the same problem, so it wasn't a dead video card.
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Originally Posted by DMight
yeah, could be.!! do you have any chance of getting hold of another video card.? that would clear things up, for your sake and asus too.
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Originally Posted by DMight
thats really unfortunate... so that you dont think you´re alone, my previous and faithfull abit nf7-s paired with a amd barton 2500 that gave me such happiness for so many years died beacause of a bad flash from asus bios update in windows (ill never use it again! just low level bios upt)
but what they say is frightening... we should get asus boards with 25% chance of not paying them lolol to equal things up.
Did you try reflashing it ?Quote:
Originally Posted by DMight
EDIT; oops how could reflash without getting to the bios. dohhhhhhhhhhhhh!
<---- idiot :P
So those of you with at least 475x8, can you post your settings?
Oh, how I wish this board were an ABIT NF7-S. That's what I'm typing on right now...this board has been rock solid for me for years with my Barton 2700. Maximus Formula is my first upgrade from this system...what a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninogui
Well, I've paid my one-way shipping and the board is on it's way to ASUS RMA. I'd love it if they could shed some light on what happened, but I suppose I should just be happy if they send back a working board. Such strange behavior, 8 hours OCCT blend stable and then these random shut downs and the eventual crash INSIDE THE BIOS. I could here the little voice in my head, "This means no Christmas". Well, now I get to put it out of my mind for a week or two...since it's various problems have been kind of all consuming. My family will be thankful for the respite.
Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that m8. Maybe you want to tell them to upgrade you to the extreme? What are they gonna say when they see that you reseated the NB?
the watercooling thread has some sick pic's in it including this one from member
Scooby
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...T0137acopy.jpg
my goodness !!!!