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Originally Posted by iddqd
Thanks Uncle for a sweet program. Didn't know if you were aware that on version 3.58 at least on mine that I have one core that will not retain the color setting on my task bar.
Each time I have to go into setings and redo. No big issue but wanted to let you know.
I thought I fixed that but I guess not. I'll have to have another look. Thanks for the bug report.
Hey uncle,Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
Sorry to pester you but I also noticed something odd. I tell windows 7 not to hide my icons ...yet one core seems to disappear :(. All of them are set on always show. If I delete RT, extract it again, things return to normal ... for a while :shrug:
Thanks for the feedback Wishmaker. The funny thing is that I haven't changed anything to do with the system tray icons in a long, long time. Last time I looked at this problem, it seemed to be a Windows 7 bug. If I set W7 to show all icons then it works 100% correctly but if I try to use W7 to only show some of the icons then it seems to be unable to remember my choices for what icons I want displayed and will hide one of the RealTemp icons. I don't think there is anything I can do to solve this W7 related issue. It's also impossible to organize the cores in W7 like RealTemp is able to do in Vista or XP. :(
I complained to Microsoft during W7 beta testing about some of the changes they made to their new and improved "Notification Area" but they must be saving some fixes for SP1 or SP2. W7 assumes that a program should only place one icon in this area so where it gets inserted isn't important and if a program tries to insert multiple icons; if W7 displays 3 out of 4 or 4 out of 5 then it considers that to be good enough. Try switching to "Always show all icons" in the Notification Area and see if that fixes RealTemp.
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3273/w7bug.png
There seems to be some sort of feature in W7 that when this box is not checked, icons can disappear randomly and their status changes from "Show icon and notifications" to "Only show notifications". If you don't check this box then every time this happens, you need to click on the little triangle and grab the icon it just hid and drag it back onto the system tray where it belongs. I prefer to check the box.
in w7 you can manually drag and rearrange systray icons just like you are able to with the taskbar icons. that may help but it's just a workaround.
Cheers for the replies guys. I will try your workarounds ;).
Hey,
By any chance is there a update in the works so real temp reads the 980x correctly?
I've tried a few different versions with no luck. Currently it only seems to read 3 cores. core 0,1,2.
The temps though are pretty much spot on for the 3 cores its reading. These are pretty cool running chips I gotta say... :cool:
Have you tried using RealTempGT? I believe that this is the version for the GulfTown chips.Quote:
Originally Posted by zillaoc
P.S. It should be in the same folder as RealTemp, if you have a near current version. Uncle distributes them in the same download.
/slaps head...Quote:
Originally Posted by Raptor-X
Works perfectly...
Here's a quick screenie after running prime/smallFFT's for a minute.
The chip/mobo/ram/video card are brand new, I'm letting the paste cure on the mobo n chip b4 clocking it.
p.s sorry for the wide pic...
http://vizmu.com/static/cool2.jpg
You cool it with frozen water? You live into an igloo? :D
Looking good. Glad it worked out for you. Enjoy.
The entire rig minus the hd's and pump is inside this thing. That is a old ss though. Its been modded a ton since...Quote:
Originally Posted by burebista
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...50#post2898350
:worship:
Hehe, I wasn't too far in my assumption. :D
Hey unclewebb,
thought I'd check back in here to see how you are doing :)
Sorry I haven't been giving any feedback lately, I remember when you made RealtempGT just for me back in Autumn 09 :D :up:
I have been using an old 3,30 Beta ever since, and it worked fine. Now I do have a few new chips, so I thought I'd update and see what has changed.
Does the attached screen look right to you? I kinow sensors 4 and 5 are kinda broken, but I think the rest is spot-on. Running fully-loaded on chilled water (14-17C water).
As always, thanks for the great program!
My best guess is that TJMax is not consistent across all of your cores. With the cores numbered from Core 0 to Core 5, I'd bump up TJMax on Core 3 by about 10C or 11C and I'd bump Core 4 by about 6C. That should make all 6 of them line up pretty good. They might even be more accurate too. :)
Prime95 Small FFTs is still the best program for equally loading each core. When you do that, most of the difference you see from one core to the next is error in how Intel sets TJMax.
A TJ target number is written into each core so in theory Intel could use a unique TJ Max value for each core but they don't bother. They just write a consistent value into all 6 cores even though actual TJMax varies a little from one core to the next.
I'll try to get RealTemp GT updated someday in the near future with better CPU name recognition and some of the newer GPU code but other than that, it looks like it still works.
Unclewebb,Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
thank you for your suggestions, but too late - I already swapped the CPU for the other X5680 (it's a pair, waiting on the DP evga board) :D
This CPU is way better, but two sensors are also off the mark - different ones this time.
In this shot I am running prime SmallFFT, and your latest RealTemp version. Also, I set TJmax manually to 105C because Dave said that's what he got as a number from Intel.
So, what should I adjust here, if anything?
Thanks :)
http://database.he-computer.de/Bilder/temp/RT3.jpg
TJMax is written into each core by Intel so I'd trust that as a starting point. Hitting the Defaults button in the RealTemp Settings window should reset it to the default TJMax. RealTemp reads that value OK.
The slope error in these new sensors is much greater than the slope error in the 45nm Core i7 series. You would need to get your core temperature up to about 70C before slope error becomes a non issue. Most of the difference from core to core at that point is error in TJMax.
The easy thing to do is to run Small FFTs until the temps stabilize and then add on a few degrees to the center cores until the temps across all 6 cores are fairly well balanced. It will make things look nice if nothing else.
It's too bad that Intel has taken a step backward with these latest sensors. With 6 cores and 12 threads at 4.5GHz+, there probably won't be too many complaints. :)
Hello Uncle( Jeez that sounds strange!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
Running RealTemp GT 3.40 on my dual Westmere SR2 rig and defaults show a TMax of 101C.. I thought it was 105C..
Now how do I monitor all 12 cores as the app just shows 6 ?
Am I a clueless n00b?
Thanks for a great app.:up:
If I may... Try this http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...trail&page=105 until unclewebb answers you. It is meant for skulltrail, but it might work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Err.. I discussed that very issue with unclewebb some time ago. We got it to work by copying the realtemp folder, changing a setting in each folder's config file (something like "CPU=0" for one and "CPU=1" for the other IIRC).
So you basically start up two instances of RealtempGT, with one displaying CPU 0 and the other CPU 1.
What's up doc? :)
I'm using Real Temp GT3.40 with X5650, and the TJ Max is 96 by default. Do I have to change this? I hope not, I'm very happy with the low temp.
Monstru: The Atoms don't use the same high performance timers that other Intel CPUs use. Try adding MSRMulti=1 to the RealTemp.ini file and it might show you a multiplier using the old method and report your correct MHz.
The load meter probably doesn't work either. You can check off TM Load in the Settings window and it will try to use a load meter based on the task manager load meter. Same problem as above. No high performance timers in these CPUs.
I just checked the Intel docs and it says the D510 has a thermal spec of 100C so you would need to change that in the Settings window too. Your temps might be a little closer to reality but probably still a little out to lunch unless you've moved way up North. I'll blame that on crappy sensors.
Can you tell I'm not a netbook fan and I have absolutely no love for the Atom line of CPUs? :)
Sam_oslo: RealTemp is reading the 96 value from the CPU but there's no guarantee that it is 100% accurate. Intel calls the number within the CPU that RealTemp reads a TJ Target number and actual TJ Max may be higher. They've never said how much higher so actual TJMax might be 100 or 105 like many other Intel CPUs. By writing information into the TJ Target register, Intel is in complete control of what your CPU reports for temperatures. If they write a low ball TJ Target number in that register then all software will report that you have a cool running CPU.
My apologies to the 12 core Westmere guys. Send me some hardware and I'll get to work on a 12 core version of RealTemp GT.
Yes boss, but this is not a notebook, and this is a dual-core Atom with hyper-threading (hooray) :D