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Originally Posted by ben805
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Originally Posted by newegg
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Posted by NCIX FORUM ADMIN:
Oh boy... :cussing: :shoot: :poke: :cord: :lsfight:Quote:
A very quick update. Venice may be weeks away yet. It really depends on how many Winchesters are still out in the market. So if you really want them sooner, get all your friends, family (Aunt Edna and the like) to buy up the current Winchesters in the market.
Maybe I will buy a cheap Winchester now, and then upgrade to Venice or Dual-Core when they come out :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
What about you guys? It sounds like Venice is about a month away.
Here is the answer from Monarch, when I ask them about the VENICE :slobber:
Thank you for your request. We are working on getting these added as soon as
they are available, or even a bit early for Pre-Order. Please let me know if you
have further questions. Thank your time and patience. We appreciate your
business.
Dabney
Monarch Computer
Purchasing Department
:( :slobber: :mad: :slap:
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Originally Posted by Tibu
Its true, amd is waiting for their excess stock of winnies to dry up before they start dispersing Venice :stick: But then most of us already have a winny and I dont need another. I guess we all have no choice but to wait or buy a 3000+ winny and be done with it :mad:
Pure speculation:
I think the "leaked?" (i doubt this is really what would be called a leak tho) information of how the venice did in terms of oc is doing alot of damage to the current winchester sales. AMD, and retailers didn't expect this, so they are (I really don't care who) pushing it as far back as they can to get people to become impatient so they go out and buy the winchester. If I'm right, and I hope that I'm wrong, I don't think venice will come out until late spring if anytime before summer.
In other words, I'm just repeating what the reps from Newegg and specially Monarch are saying.
Man, and I was finally gonna upgrade outa my machine after 3 years, and was getting ready to OC for the first time too. Patience...Patience...damn MTV and my short attention span, what was I saying?
conrad.maranan, Thank you!
Unfortunately, I can confirm that the Official Street Release time frame is Mid-May for Venice Core A64s. This is when the chips will be available in large quantities. (Retail and OEM but OEM will come sooner) It appears that AMD's wholesalers still have plenty of Winchesters and Newcastle still in stock. From the responses that I got it appears that AMD is indeed waiting to get rid of the existing supply of Athlon 64s before releasing Venice. However, as you may already know, plans might and sometimes do change. I wouldn't be surprised to see AMD let a few trickle into the Market if they found out how hot these chips are.
I was told that if I needed them real badly that I should contact my AMD Sales Representative. This means that if I were to get some I would not be able to get 30+. I would probably only be able to get about 5 or so. Of course, this is no were near enough to feed the masses. Although I have bought things directly from AMD in the past (4-way stuff), it was under special circumstances. I don't know if you guys know the way the Market works but resellers (Newegg, Monarch, etc.) usually never buy chips directly from AMD. We are usually always directed to go through AMD's certified distributors. So don't blame Monarch or NewEgg.
Good luck guys! :)
You'd be able to charge a pretty premium on those 5 or so Venices tho.
So I guess the Monarch guy had to really bug his supplier to promise a few Venice next week?
I'd better be up really early Monday morning, heh.
Vandi423, hook me up ;) I cant wait to get my hands on a 4000+ san diego :D
ah its a paperlauch, figures. nowdays everyone paperlauches. ah well I am not impatient and from what I hear the speed binned 3000+ venice do, its not much of an upgrade from my 2.6 winny anyway
where are there benches of 3000+ venice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
I think thats just NCIX speaking, they can't send back the Winchester units to AMD..and they know once they start selling Venice nobody will buy Winchesters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tibu
Very nice results! I wonder what 1mb cache will get if only 512k can get 37k :slobber:
doesn't look like monarch is in a hurry to have a pre-sale for Venice. I contacted Dabney from purchasing at monarch yesterday. We exchanged emails back and forth. her last email was she'll try to convince her purchasing manager to have a pre-order for Venice. She told me she'll get back to me, but that was the last time i heard from her. I guess they still have alot of winnie left to get rid off. She also told me the Venice will be available next week, but i'll take it with a grain of salt. i'm dying to get a Venice. I also went so far as emailing AMD directly and calling their sales dept. to try to buy a Venice. That didn't go anywhere
dng29: :welcome: to XS!
damn the adding 99 of the same item to your basket doesnt work at Monarch. I added a 1000 and they let me. :( But with regards to Newegg, why would htey limit the quantity someone can buy if they are trying to get rid of stock?? DOnt understand.
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...ory_Code=AMD64
That one makes me think...
yeah, but there are no mentions of SSE3. Seems like a pre-order, but can't be to sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qkjhfhaiguihfma
It doesn't mention anything, but would AMD really ship out an order of Winny's on 4/15?
Actually, down below it describes it as a Winny. I think this may be Venice tho.
Their last shipment maybe? :confused: :confused:
well their ditributer may have winny stock that needs to be exhausted as well so I guess we'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qkjhfhaiguihfma
I sent Monarch a E-Mail yesterdya, I will let you guys know when I get a response.
I agree. We've seen 3200+s, 3500+, 3800+s, but no 3000+. I wonder if they'll overclock any worse than the higher rated CPUs...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackass
The way i see it, is that this is a perfect strategy for both AMD and monarch or any etailers. The more the delay, the more us customers want the chip. They know for sure that these Venices will sell like hot cakes, so they're not going to worry about not selling any. They're worried about selling winnies if these venices get out. Unless, dell jumps in and buy up all winnies to make amd desktop pcs to sell to the avg. joes, we got to wait and wait. I know i'm dreaming here, but dell is seriously contemplating going AMD :). I bet monarch is planning on how to take advantage of this situation with pricing the Venice. although Dabney from monarch told me the price should be the same, hrmm. oh well, i'm hoping to see something on monarch monday.