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interesting way of putting a reply :D
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interesting way of putting a reply :D
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/o...40325/6511.png
show me which of those is BH-5... i know your not comparing the results from tests on the intel bed to the tests on the A64 bed, because we all know that the A64 has much better memory performance.
and that article isnt a good comparison anyways as the VX was tested on the NF4 DFI and everything else was done on an NF3 MSI...
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Originally Posted by Revv23
So are any of the above BH-5?Quote:
OCZ is usually very open about chip sources, but in this case, they would only comment that the memory chips were made to their specifications and went through extensive binning at OCZ. Forums are claiming that the blank is a new Winbond memory chip.
Performance of the OCZ EL PC4000 VX Gold was compared to all of the memory recently tested on the AMD Athlon 64 platform. While we did not test on an Intel platform, the performance results can also be generally compared to previous benchmark results on the Intel 875 memory test bed. More results are available in recent DDR memory reviews at: <br>
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<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2312" target="_blank">Corsair 4400C25: Taking Samsung TCCD to New Heights</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2235" target="_blank">PQI & G. Skill: New Choices in 2-2-2 Memory</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2226" target="_blank">Athlon 64 Memory: Rewriting the Rules</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2215" target="_blank">OCZ 3700 Gold Rev. 3: DDR500 Value for Athlon 64 & Intel 478</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2174" target="_blank">Geil PC3200 Ultra X: High Speed & Record Bandwidth</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2145" target="_blank">= F-A-S-T= DDR Memory: 2-2-2 Roars on the Scene</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2130" target="_blank">Buffalo FireStix: Red Hot Name for a New High-End Memory</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2098" target="_blank">New DDR Highs: Shikatronics, OCZ, and the Fastest Memory Yet</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=2082" target="_blank">The Return of 2-2-2: Corsair 3200XL & Samsung PC4000</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=2057" target="_blank">OCZ 3700EB: Making Hay with Athlon 64</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=2019" target="_blank">OCZ 3500EB: The Importance of Balanced Memory Timings</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=2015" target="_blank">Mushkin PC3200 2-2-2 Special: Last of a Legend</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=2007" target="_blank">PMI DDR533: A New Name in High-Performance Memory</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1998" target="_blank">Samsung PC3700: DDR466 Memory for the Masses</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1990" target="_blank">Kingmax Hardcore Memory: Tiny BGA Reaches For Top Speed</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1972" target="_blank">New Memory Highs: Corsair and OCZ Introduce DDR550</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1940" target="_blank">OCZ PC3700 Gold Rev. 2: The Universal Soldier</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1902" target="_blank">OCZ 4200EL: Tops in Memory Performance</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1887" target="_blank">Mushkin PC4000 High Performance: DDR500 PLUS</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1867" target="_blank">Corsair TwinX1024-4000 PRO: Improving DDR500 Performance</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1853" target="_blank">Mushkin & Adata: 2 for the Fast-Timings Lane</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1849" target="_blank">Searching for the Memory Holy Grail – Part 2</a><br>
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According to anandtech It is the Fastest Memory for the A64. And that does include BH-5 according to them as this VX isn't the VX that OCZ had with the PC3200VX Dimms, This is a later Custom Batch and It is the cream of the crop of that custom batch of their newest VX chips. They only used the DFI NF4 motherboard as It was the only one then that could without any mods go to 4.0vdc, Now It has company and It's a Sapphire Gruper..... So I wonder how long It will be before the fish(Navy parlance for Torpedoes) are in the water and running hot and true?Quote:
<img width="500" height="337" src="http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/ocz%20vx_03020540325/6533.png" align="left" hspace="2" vspace="0">Some of you may recall in the last days of BH5 memory last year that BH5 actually performed faster than the new Samsung TCCD at the exact same memory timings. This is a pattern that we have seen before, but OCZ 4000 VX Gold blows the hinges off the door of this concept. What can you say about a memory that outperforms the fastest memory that you have previously tested, except "wow"? What replaces "wow" when you realize that OCZ VX running at DDR533 outperforms the previous best running at DDR610? There are no superlatives that really do justice to this kind of performance. We are absolutely blown away with the performance of the OCZ DDR500 VX.
Across the board from DDR400 to DDR538, VX manages to perform with stability in all our benchmarks at 2-2-2-6 timings. In addition, it is faster at the same timings than any memory that we have tested so far. This is why DDR533 outperforms the top TCCD memory - even those specially binned for highest-speed performance. We would also add that we did try slower timings to see where we could go, but this memory is very interesting in its performance curves. It can do, at 2-2-2 at high voltage, essentially the same as the highest OC at lower timings at any voltage. This is another way of saying that there is absolutely no reason to run VX at any timings other than 2-2-2 - unless you simply don't have the voltage to reach 2-2-2 performance.
In the end, OCZ VX Gold is the best performing memory that we have tested on the Athlon 64 platform. At the same speed and same timings, it significantly outperforms any other memory that we have tested on A64. VX does not run at the fastest memory speeds that we have found in our benchmarks - quite a few memories based on Samsung TCCD or Hynix memory chips reach significantly higher speeds than the DDR538 of OCZ VX Gold. However, at DDR534 2-2-2-6 timings, no memory that we have tested outperforms VX. VX is so fast that 533 actually outperforms memory that have achieved DDR600 or more in our memory tests.
Here's another review of PC4000VX ram and again they use a DFI NF4.
http://www.insanetek.com/index.php?p...goldpc4000vx_1
Oh and I did find a review of some BH-5 ram, Of course It's OCZ PC3500 Platinum and heres the review below:
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=1914
And yeah It's on an Intel system, But Super Pi there is slower than on VX ram on the A64.
Interesting RAM. I'm keeping an eye on it
This thread is getting :off: !
Sorry, Ram debate for this chipset is all. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Nanobot
Now, does anyone know, will the gruper have active mosfet cooling stock? And will it (thusly) be able to push 4v 24/7 without extreme heat and stability issues?
Also,
was even more :off: hehe...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanobot
Back to topic.
Mailed Sapphire Germany when/if this board hits the retail channels and got this answer:
We showed it as a demo system, but if it will be available for the end-user market it should come in about 2 or 3 month. Decision is not finally made.
So stay aware to our and ATI’s press releases…
Best regards
Your Sapphire Team Germany
oh... talk about raining on the party... well, let's just hope for the best then. dang, them boards look(ed) promising
why do you post a link to a story on a website a and then a link from a website b who quotes website a and links to it? :Stick: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by zoom314
bh5 performs the same or beats ch5 ,theres no way its faster than bh5.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom314
bh5 production has started again some weeks ago and the new bh5 will be available soon.
zoom314, anandtech didnt compare the vx to bh5...
and please stop using iframe! :P
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Originally Posted by zoom314
sorry for going OT one last time, but not once did they compare BH-5 to VX on the same platform, A64 always makes more memory bandwidth, you cant compare intel+BH-5 to A64 + VX and make claims that one is faster then the other, you just can't. Whatever anandtech says is just unbacked specualtion, and frankly im dissapointed in the website for it.
The board was not even working so i just can't see how one could call it a demo system, more of a concept if you ask. All this teasing just to learn that it may not make it to market :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Caper
Anyway, 2 or 3 months is too much for me so it'll prolly be DFI.
The boards were working. They were not concepts. They were disassembled for some reason at the show.
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Originally Posted by LowRun
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Originally Posted by zoom314
BH-5 still faster sometimes but here's 10x 266mhz 2-2-2-6 BH-5 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...694#post768694 to compare
Anandtech 10x267mhz 2-2-2-6 DFI NF4 vs BH-5@ 10x266mhz 2-2-2-6 DFI NF4 SLI-D
Sandra unbuffered = 3470/3629 vs 3581/3775
Sandra buffered = 7554/7461 vs 7557/7475
SuperPi 2M = 71s vs 72s
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...erpi-2m_tn.jpg
note Anandtech cpu = FX-53 1MB cache vs my 3500+ Newcastle 512k cache hence difference in superpi time and fact 10mhz difference 2670mhz vs 2660mhz
sorry Grayskull for going off topic... heh
Ahh, ok, it's worth mentionning, thanks for the clarification Grayskull.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
If its already working, why would it still take 2 to 3 months to come out? By then news about "NF5" will probably be leaked.
Well, given that the decision to make it to market has not been taken yet, 2 to 3 months seems correct. Hope they'll take the right decision, maybe time for a "Will you buy the Gruper if it performs" poll thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
I actually don't mind if it takes a couple months for this board to come out, if they make sure it is released with a good BIOS and no bugs to speak of. The problem I have with delays is when they don't seem to fix anything while we wait.
yep, I'm with you. As long as the has few bugs and is stable with all these options I can wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnbns
jjcom
Me too, BTW: Nice Cat avatar. Is the cat still alive or?Quote:
Originally Posted by jjcom
My nephew had His Black cat Sargent die recently at age 17(It was a 17 year old cat). :(
i just heard that the waterblocks from DD will cost around 40$, just like their current blocks
lets hope DD or some shops will offer the board with one or two blocks bundled so the price gets lower. maybe 199$ for the board with 2 blocks? :D that would surely be nice
Cat's still alive and his older brother is as well :D He's...9 years or so old. He's a blue gray...or whatever...same type of cat as Kazoo's, but mine's a guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom314
jjcom
oh man if it ever did cost $199 for the board AND two blocks i think....well i dunno what i'd do, but i'd be happy :DQuote:
Originally Posted by saaya