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02-15-2009, 07:41 PM
theseeker

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Originally Posted by NaeKuh

most likely.

as BA said, its the low point in your system.

You just need an air tap at the top and it should drain properly.

And u just need a female quick disconnect to start the drain at the pump side.

I think I have that one covered.

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Originally Posted by SiGfever

This is coming along very nicely, it is clean and well thought out. I do like the loop from the cpu to the vid card more each time I see it, it flows well.

I think that NaeKuh's advice about the QC for a drain would look fine if you used the stubby female out of a rotary 45. Or you could run the tube to the rear of the case and use a bulk-head fitting to put a QC on the back.

Or we have another scotch and think about it some more. :up:

Correct, another scotch! :ROTF: T
Thanks John!

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Originally Posted by BlueAqua

Wow Rocky.. I have to say that your radiator is HUGE. The size really looks fitting for the TJ07 and should prove to be a worthy asset in your water cooling system.

Great progress though, it looks like you've put a lot of work into getting it just right. It's more time consuming that most imagine. I just hope you don't have sleepless night figuring out where you're going to place your pump like I did.

BA, I just copy your ideas and it is very time consuming to say the least.

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Originally Posted by Hockeydude

Lol, I saw where you ended up putting it but could you place it on the midplate at the front, under the drives? Then have it run to the rad. Would there be room for that?

I am not sure I understand your question? It could be the scotch:eek:

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Originally Posted by Meatpuppet

Looking at the drain plug idea, I can't see how it would be an easy drain process. Given the construction of the D5 top, I would imagine you will have to rock your case back and forth a lot in order to drain your radiator. I know it isn't as sexy of an otpion, but a regular T fitting attached to the lower barb of the radiator would drain the system like a champ and since it is in the lower chamber would basically be out of sight. Just a thought.

I have become accustomed to rocking my case! Thanks for the input, but I am not a fan of Tee's.

Many thanks!
02-16-2009, 01:55 PM
theseeker

I have been leak testing for two hours and no leaks!:D This pump is pretty silent even on five. I wasn't quite sure what to expect and the water going into the Res sounds like a babbling brook. I am surprised that it took a little less than half a gallon of H20. Here are a few pics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01676.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01677.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01678.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01680.jpg

LMK if this looks right as I have no idea what I am doing.
02-16-2009, 02:10 PM
N19h7m4r3

Looks nice though :)
02-16-2009, 02:28 PM
Jokester_wild

did you mean the water running into the res is like a babbling brook ?

I like that idea though, I might have to steal it and try it. :up:
02-16-2009, 02:35 PM
theseeker

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Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3

Looks nice though :)

Thank you! BTW, you are going to love the airflow through the Feser!

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Originally Posted by Jokester_wild

did you mean the water running into the res is like a babbling brook ?

I like that idea though, I might have to steal it and try it. :up:

Yes the water going into the res. It is kind of feng shui like.
02-16-2009, 03:51 PM
SAE

Really great looking, your project. :up:
02-16-2009, 04:37 PM
shazza

I like the res setup, but I'm having a problem with the PCI-E cables. It may just be the pics, but they look a little scrunched. Is there any way to arrange them so they drape more? Hard to explain.

Coming along nicely. Glad your leak testing is not working!
02-16-2009, 04:48 PM
theseeker

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAE

Really great looking, your project. :up:

Danke!

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Originally Posted by shazza

I like the res setup, but I'm having a problem with the PCI-E cables. It may just be the pics, but they look a little scrunched. Is there any way to arrange them so they drape more? Hard to explain.

Coming along nicely. Glad your leak testing is not working!

Thanks Shazza! The PCI-E cables will look much better tomorrow. Unfortunately, they cannot droop due to the tight bend from the 8-pin & 6-pin connector. There is no slack but I think you will like my solution.

Well put about the leak testing!:rofl: I have to admit that I was a bit scared when I turned the pump on. Since this was my first big tubing attempt, no push in fittings, no clamps and no compression fittings, I am quite satisfied.
02-16-2009, 05:36 PM
theseeker

Five hours and no leaks! Yes, I am happy!
02-16-2009, 05:45 PM
Hockeydude

Very nice, glad to hear that. I want to see a finished product!!!:D
02-16-2009, 05:51 PM
theseeker

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Originally Posted by Hockeydude

Very nice, glad to hear that. I want to see a finished product!!!:D

Many thanks! And believe me, I want to see the finished product too!:D
02-16-2009, 06:12 PM
shazza

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Originally Posted by theseeker

Danke!

Thanks Shazza! The PCI-E cables will look much better tomorrow. Unfortunately, they cannot droop due to the tight bend from the 8-pin & 6-pin connector. There is no slack but I think you will like my solution.

Well put about the leak testing!:rofl: I have to admit that I was a bit scared when I turned the pump on. Since this was my first big tubing attempt, no push in fittings, no clamps and no compression fittings, I am quite satisfied.

Good Deal ... I figured you had something up your sleeve for the PCI-E cables (sorry, it's been a long day).

You are much more patient than I am, putting everything together methodically. I can't resist throwing it all together to see if it works, then I have to go back and redo it (once, twice, many more times).
02-16-2009, 06:44 PM
theseeker

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Originally Posted by shazza

Good Deal ... I figured you had something up your sleeve for the PCI-E cables (sorry, it's been a long day).

You are much more patient than I am, putting everything together methodically. I can't resist throwing it all together to see if it works, then I have to go back and redo it (once, twice, many more times).

Shazza, I was trained as a French chef, not an Italian Chef, no offense to the Italian community. The French teach patience and methodology. At the time I wanted to kill them all. However, in retrospect, the French were correct.

When it comes to food, scotch and computers, you might as well take your time and enjoy the outcome. Just my 2 cents!
Thanks for your input!
02-16-2009, 06:47 PM
shazza

ahhhh ... trained as a French chef. Should you and your wife ever visit Phoenix, we'll have to share a meal. My husband is an excellent cook as well (sorry ... chef). I, on the other hand, cannot even figure out how to turn the stove on.
02-16-2009, 07:16 PM
SiGfever

Looking good Rocky, at five hours you have it made. When the tubing fits that tight it is tough for it to leak under such little pressure.

Looking forward to see what you do with the vid wires. :up:
02-17-2009, 01:37 AM
N19h7m4r3

Seeker I must say I love my Feser!

My 4870x2 was idling at 28 with an ambient of 13. Not to shabby.

My cpu was around 26 and at 100% load was around 38.

Great rad, although sadly my system is dead.

I flashed to the latest bios to get more overclocking head room and now I've a dead mobo :(
02-17-2009, 07:02 AM
theseeker

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Originally Posted by SiGfever

Looking good Rocky, at five hours you have it made. When the tubing fits that tight it is tough for it to leak under such little pressure.

Looking forward to see what you do with the vid wires. :up:

Thanks John, I really like the tight tubing fit. I am working a couple of different angles on the video wires but I don't have a lot of flexibility.

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Originally Posted by shazza

ahhhh ... trained as a French chef. Should you and your wife ever visit Phoenix, we'll have to share a meal. My husband is an excellent cook as well (sorry ... chef). I, on the other hand, cannot even figure out how to turn the stove on.

Thanks for the invite Shazza!

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Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3

Seeker I must say I love my Feser!

My 4870x2 was idling at 28 with an ambient of 13. Not to shabby.

My cpu was around 26 and at 100% load was around 38.

Great rad, although sadly my system is dead.

I flashed to the latest bios to get more overclocking head room and now I've a dead mobo :(

Sorry to hear of your misfortune. That has happened to me too. Very nice temps though.
02-17-2009, 07:40 AM
PradaG

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Originally Posted by theseeker

When it comes to food, scotch and computers, you might as well take your time and enjoy the outcome.

very well put :)....there are so many levels of enjoyment re: those too...:yepp: (depending how complicated you like things;))
02-17-2009, 02:22 PM
Snyxxx

Wonderful work. I have been watching this work log with great interest and it prompted me to try my own version of this.

One question though.

If you were to rotate the radiator 180° where the tubing connections were near the PSU end, and keep the pump where you have it, would this allow you to have shorter tube routes when it enters/deprts the basement?

It seems that the exit from the res would have a much shorter run length to get back to the pump. Also, the run from the pump to the radiator would almost be the same length (or at least hidden down there). Just curious if this is possible.
02-17-2009, 03:16 PM
theseeker

Quote:

Originally Posted by PradaG

very well put :)....there are so many levels of enjoyment re: those too...:yepp: (depending how complicated you like things;))

Thanks, glad you appreciate my view.

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Originally Posted by Snyxxx

Wonderful work. I have been watching this work log with great interest and it prompted me to try my own version of this.

One question though.

If you were to rotate the radiator 180° where the tubing connections were near the PSU end, and keep the pump where you have it, would this allow you to have shorter tube routes when it enters/deprts the basement?

It seems that the exit from the res would have a much shorter run length to get back to the pump. Also, the run from the pump to the radiator would almost be the same length (or at least hidden down there). Just curious if this is possible.

Snyxx,
Thanks for the compliment. A very good question! I actually toyed with that very set up. It is possible but difficult. My PSU is very big too and the distance between the Rad and the PSU is small. With my PSU I would have had to use two 90's out of the Rad. I tried a 45 but the tubing would be touching the PSU, potentially more heat.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/DSC01656.jpg

Then you would have a hole at the end of the midplate and the tubing would run under the CPU tubing. So yes, it would work, but I didn't like the look. Now if you use the 120.3 like BA did in his build, you have many more possibilities. HTH
02-17-2009, 03:48 PM
hiiyah777

So how far away do you think you are from finishing?
02-17-2009, 04:14 PM
Lu(ky

Very nice theseeker :up: Now help me do mine but with red or black tubbing... ;)
02-17-2009, 04:18 PM
theseeker

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Originally Posted by hiiyah777

So how far away do you think you are from finishing?

It is very hard to say. I am currently working on my whiz-bang HDD mounting scheme. Getting four HDD's, the Aquaero and the Blu-Ray mounted in a stealth fashion is a bit of a pain. I am hoping it will boot Sunday. Who knows:shrug:
02-17-2009, 04:48 PM
Snyxxx

Quote:

Originally Posted by theseeker

With my PSU I would have had to use two 90's out of the Rad. I tried a 45 but the tubing would be touching the PSU, potentially more heat.

Yes, I figured you probably did look at it knowing how detailed you are.

I am a lot less 90° elbow averse these days after using the Bitspower versions. I will probably investigate this as well and may indeed end up with the same results as you.

I thought about the PA120.3, but then I would also want an PA 120.2 as well.
I will be going two DDCs in series and would like the extra room in front of the PSU like you have.
02-17-2009, 09:30 PM
anubis_is_evil

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Originally Posted by theseeker

Thanks, glad you appreciate my view.
Snyxx,
Thanks for the compliment. A very good question! I actually toyed with that very set up. It is possible but difficult. My PSU is very big too and the distance between the Rad and the PSU is small. With my PSU I would have had to use two 90's out of the Rad. I tried a 45 but the tubing would be touching the PSU, potentially more heat.

facing the same problem on my LLV2000...but i guess this will help(i have'nt tried it yet)
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/bisish90igad.html
it does have smaller wide, wanna use the koolance rotary 90 before, but the koolance are to wide that can causing the tube touching the PSU or probably the 90 it self, from other 90' that i've seen, i guess that 90 from BP is the only one that have shorter design..

keep on update seek :up:

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