Teybers Evap

hey man now that i have seen the mounting just wondering when u were going to make mine out of the derlin i sent to u and let me know as i do have a couple more peices of it and can most likly get more cheap like the last stuff i got u please send me pm to let me know how much i would owe u for making them for me

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Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Impressive Teyber :clap:

I'm sick and tired of mounting and re-mounting evaps 10 times before the luck strikes in and it happens to sit perfectly aligned on top of the cpu and with the correct amount of pressure.

I tell ya, someday I'll hit the jackpot!

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My hands are just raw from screwing butterfly nuts all morning.

Here is what I do when mounting Evaps.

Mount everything up but not super tight. Super tight mountings can actually warp the MB and cause all kinds of other problems. When I am mounting a Evap I give the Evap a few twists and turns to snug everything up nice.

Leave the Phase off, turn on your computer and have a temp meter on the Evap and let it run until you get to 50c or so then shut off the computer.

The heat will cause everything to settle down and spread out and form good contact.

Then tighten down a little bit more and your good.

My thoughts are if you just mount the Evap then fire up the Phase and get everything cold before you ever turn on the computer you will freeze any bumps in the TIM and will result in bad contact.

Also when tighten down the 4 thumb screws snug them all up, not tight, then thighten down the thumb screws at opposite corners at the same time. try and do it so each thumb screw is tighten the same amount so you dont end up with more pressure on one screw vs another.

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Originally Posted by Buckeye

Here is what I do when mounting Evaps.

Mount everything up but not super tight. Super tight mountings can actually warp the MB and cause all kinds of other problems. When I am mounting a Evap I give the Evap a few twists and turns to snug everything up nice.

Leave the Phase off, turn on your computer and have a temp meter on the Evap and let it run until you get to 50c or so then shut off the computer.

The heat will cause everything to settle down and spread out and form good contact.

Then tighten down a little bit more and your good.

My thoughts are if you just mount the Evap then fire up the Phase and get everything cold before you ever turn on the computer you will freeze any bumps in the TIM and will result in bad contact.

Also when tighten down the 4 thumb screws snug them all up, not tight, then thighten down the thumb screws at opposite corners at the same time. try and do it so each thumb screw is tighten the same amount so you dont end up with more pressure on one screw vs another.

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intresting
sow you just fire up the motherboard but without turning on the phase.

Going to test this out sounds like a good plan.:up: thanks for the advice ^^

i know this is somewhat off topic, but what startup temp do you guys usually use for booting? i was told 80% of your total unloaded temp

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Originally Posted by nigelke

intresting
sow you just fire up the motherboard but without turning on the phase.

Going to test this out sounds like a good plan.:up: thanks for the advice ^^

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Short the start sw jumper.

I've always fireup when my unit hit -40c on SS and -80 on cascade

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Originally Posted by nigelke

intresting
sow you just fire up the motherboard but without turning on the phase.

Going to test this out sounds like a good plan.:up: thanks for the advice ^^

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Yes I do, my Phase does not have a controller so its np. I also have a temp probe and use a Fluke to watch temps, when it gets to 50c or so I shut off the Comp and let it sit for a minute.

All I do when I fire up the comp is just bring into the BIOS and let it sit while watching the temps.

the new gear came... so im going to try to make a stepper later today...

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Originally Posted by teyber

no coldwave was something that a european made a small run of and sold to runmc. runmc bead blasted them and sold them. they were an expensive maze evap that i believe was 50mm in diameter? i wish that was my brazing work lol... good going there ron...

cheers

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wrong :shakes: except it is 2" diameter

They were made in USA and I thought they worked as good as any I've seen. The evap teyber made is a similar design. I will have more made here in Dallas soon.

This is a coldwave :rolleyes:
http://www.under-the-ice.com/images/Wave2BG.jpg

Praz got one and made the best looking single stage in the world with it. I would like to add that it performs very well. Praz has put us all to shame. LOL :D

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Originally Posted by runmc

wrong :shakes: except it is 2" diameter

They were made in USA and I thought they worked as good as any I've seen. The evap teyber made is a similar design. I will have more made here in Dallas soon.

This is a coldwave :rolleyes:

Praz got one and made the best looking single stage in the world with it. I would like to add that it performs very well. Praz has put us all to shame. LOL :D

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Ha Praz from DFI? Would never have guessed he played with Phase Change too...

Beautiful looking unit, looks like gold platted ;)

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Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Ha Praz from DFI? Would never have guessed he played with Phase Change too...

Beautiful looking unit, looks like gold platted ;)

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LOL -yes Praz from DFI - he's a HVAC guy for a living :yepp: and he's a perfectionist.

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Originally Posted by runmc

wrong :shakes: except it is 2" diameter

They were made in USA and I thought they worked as good as any I've seen. The evap teyber made is a similar design. I will have more made here in Dallas soon.

This is a coldwave :rolleyes:
http://www.under-the-ice.com/images/Wave2BG.jpg

Praz got one and made the best looking single stage in the world with it. I would like to add that it performs very well. Praz has put us all to shame. LOL :D

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weird! my bad! i remember there was someone who made a almost identical evap in europe, made like 15 and never sold any... i just assumed he sold them to you? :shrug: i stand corrected

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Originally Posted by teyber

i remember there was someone who made a almost identical evap in europe

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Maybe so - but mine were made in the good old USA by next generation :D

I can't wait to see your stepper. Home made are much more rewarding. :up:

Teyber I love your new hold downs leave them as is and dont change a thing!!!

They are the best I have used to date...wow they are sooooo sturdy!

Runmc that praz evap is absolutely beautiful, I know its not your unit but have you got any other pics

thanks sdump!

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a..._backplate.jpg

been hard at work... been trying to draw everything in autocad and use dolphin cam but having some problems switching over... having to re-draw all my parts in dolphin cad which, not surprisingly, isn't nearly as good as the multi-thousand dollar autocad...

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Originally Posted by lowfat

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My hands are just raw from screwing butterfly nuts all morning.

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This is what I'm talking about. Guess it's easier to built a rocket and land on the moon then to make a perfect contact between the evap and the cpu:

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5416/img0042l.th.jpg...http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3...g0041zt.th.jpg


Tried everything. No pressure, a little pressure, a lot of pressure etc :shakes:

There is NO way to get this this to work; the evap's head just gets hidden inside the foam and the contact is lost :shakes:

I need a new mount. Sorry Teyber this rant has nothing to do with your thread besides the fact that I need to test your mounts. :up:

Jor3lBR to be so hard on yourself :)

Just use a layer or two of blue shop towel around that area, have a foam ring that goes around the evap inclosure to seal it all tight.

I have that problem also from time to time, mostly with a new piece of foam. It does get squashed down pretty thin after I reuse it time and time again.

You contact does not look that bad tho. Just be sure to not over tighten your hold down screws as that can warp the MB abd cause strange issues.

Plus I do not use o-rings at all so I dont have that extra space needed for that. Its all good tho., if your mount needs the o-ring then I see no harm.

You use a layer of frost king on top of the eraser ?
I do not use that as it just adds extra heigth to the insulation area, just stack up the eraser to the top of the CPU IHS. Any extra pressure from the evap enclosure will squash that down.

Teyber what the latest here.

been doing a lot of mill-related work(as in on the mill) but i got your pm will drop what i have and will get a mount for you...

cheers :)

ooo so waiting on those.

Teyber can you PM me with an ETA I am in dire need of those hold downs...

frustrating mistakes cost me a lot of money in aluminum and a lot of time tonight...
some holes were straight up off?(very frustrating) so i had to re-do about 2 hours of cad work... then redo about an hour of cam work..

but i should have 3 hold downs at the end of the night. just have to cut out the backplates and its ready (tomorrow, i have to go to bed now...)
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/DSCN3722.jpg

Is there a reason why the aluminum is so thick?

Eric,