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08-19-2007, 01:05 PM
Movieman

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Gentlemen: Please play nice together..Please?
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The only thing I've seen so far that I beleive is what I saw with my own eyes when running Cinebench10.
Penryn shows app 9% improvement over C2D archeticture at the same clocks.
Look in the Cinebench 10 thread and you'll see what I mean.
Now thats not saying that Penryn is a 9% improvement overall, just in that benchmark. It does say that it's a fair assumption at this point that penryn will be better and in the 5-15% range..

Oh,Zytek_Fan, loved that 'Fanboy Cannon" pic!:up:
Cracked me up!:rofl:
08-19-2007, 01:08 PM
Brother Esau

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

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Gentlemen: Please play nice together..Please?
Takes off mod hat:

The only thing I've seen so far that I beleive is what I saw with my own eyes when running Cinebench10.
Penryn shows app 9% improvement over C2D archeticture at the same clocks.
Look in the Cinebench 10 thread and you'll see what I mean.
Now thats not saying that Penryn is a 9% improvement overall, just in that benchmark. It does say that it's a fair assumption at this point that penryn will be better and in the 5-15% range..

Oh,Zytek_Fan, loved that 'Fanboy Cannon" pic!:up:
Cracked me up!:rofl:

Pay attention guys that a true Gentleman in action!
08-19-2007, 01:12 PM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by informal

Zytek_Fan ,never mind Donnie,he does it all the time,nothing new there.Although you made a good proposition about continuing the serious discussion about Penryn,we can't have that since now the main theme is not the Penryn but it sure is Hans,Kyle and others,who no doubt about it, are all amd paid pumpers(sarcasm) and they all work against intel in some grand scheme(sarcasm).
And we have some new MPU design geniuses here(Shintai) who are ready to give some lessons to poor Hans about modern x86 processors.

Yes, you are so full of it. Nothing's stopping you from your Penryn comments either. Sure, we know it will be something negative. Again, folks in Kyle's own forums disagreed with him big time. Many were banned as well. His comments like;

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle

But, if you look at the amount of difference between the AMD and Intel CPUs, you will see that it isn’t enough to amount to anything. The only game that we saw any real-world difference in was Oblivion, and even that was tiny. A little overclocking would clear that difference up. Overall, the performance difference isn’t enough to amount to any gameplay experience differences in these games.

LOL, a "little overclocking" is all you can get with the AMD processor used for this review. Overclock the very overclockable C2D if you like and then the blowout gets worse. Just like a bunch of misinformed folks here. You can set up Games to bottleneck the Video card and Handicap Penryn the same way. Funny Kyle didn't do this when A64 ruled the roost.

Penryn doesn't hit the market in a Void. If folks cheated for AthlonFX when Conroe clearly kicked the crap out of, if Phenom and Penryn are neck and neck, most folks already know what most Webmasters getting paid more money by AMD will say. NO, not OFF topic and very frickin' relevant.
08-19-2007, 01:14 PM
billdavis

wow what a bunch of dorks
08-19-2007, 01:18 PM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan

Again Intel PR FTW!

You know, some AMD PR besides spec rate might not be so bad;) Aren't tired of the AMD says yada, yada, blah, blah, and etc........... news?
08-19-2007, 01:21 PM
Movieman

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:(
Need I say more?
Takes mod hat off..
08-19-2007, 01:50 PM
coffeetime

Movieman scares me

he would have no qualms about throwing your ass in a cage and throwing peanut shells at you, as you howl in a demented rage :eek:
08-19-2007, 02:34 PM
nn_step

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Originally Posted by coffeetime

Movieman scares me

he would have no qualms about throwing your ass in a cage and throwing peanut shells at you, as you howl in a demented rage :eek:

you'll come to like Movieman, esp after you Run WCG and you'll see why he is a good man
08-19-2007, 05:29 PM
coffeetime

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Originally Posted by nn_step

you'll come to like Movieman, esp after you Run WCG and you'll see why he is a good man

Was just some light ribbing heh :p: Have always found his posts to be well-reasoned, insightful, educational, offensive in any way. Overall seems like a cool guy, same with most of the long time members here.

I also know anyone not autistic knows that if you go out of your way to push the wrong buttons, don't expect to get room service :D

*looks up what the heck WCG is*
08-19-2007, 05:35 PM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by coffeetime

Was just some light ribbing heh :p: Have always found his posts to be well-reasoned, insightful, educational, offensive in any way. Overall seems like a cool guy, same with most of the long time members here.

I also know anyone not autistic knows that if you go out of your way to push the wrong buttons, don't expect to get room service :D

*looks up what the heck WCG is*

I think you meant "inoffensive":rofl:
Loved the "room service" line..VERY good!:up:
WCG= World community grid..Medical research.
We make our machines work in the hope that we can help eliminate some very nasty diseases such as aids and right now they also are doing work similar to what F@H does..Protein folding..Find out why some go wrong and screw you up..
How's that for a plain description?
Also some of the smartest, experienced people you will find and all have one thing in common..We want to help..No ego crap and we work as friends..
08-21-2007, 09:42 AM
Thesavage

Dont know if this has been posted but,
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=3069
looks to be about 6% overall.
08-22-2007, 11:20 AM
red

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Inte...form/5185.html
3GHz laptops!
And 25W 2.53GHz chips.
08-22-2007, 07:18 PM
Donnie27

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...815102710.html

Picks self up from the floor from laughing for hard.

Quote:

The pricing of the upcoming Xeon E54XX processors will look as follows:

Xeon X5460 (3.16 GHz) - $1172;
Xeon E5450 (3.00 GHz) - $851;
Xeon E5440 (2.83 GHz) - $690;
Xeon E5430 (2.66 GHz) - $455;
Xeon E5420 (2.50 GHz) - $316;
Xeon E5410 (2.33 GHz) - $256;
Xeon E5405 (2.16 GHz) - $209.

If we compare these prices with the recently reported pricing of the upcoming AMD Barcelona processors, we can see that AMD estimates the IPC of their upcoming solutions much more optimistically. The direct competitor to the upcoming Opteron 2350 with 1.9GHz clock speed will be the new Xeon E5420 working at 2.5GHz, and Xeon X5460 working at 3.16GHz will compete with Opteron 2358 running at 2.4GHz speed.

Please, somebody explain to me why someone say something that Dumb and still be respected? The estimates presented as facts based on what? 3.16 compared to a 2.4GHz Barkie? What, did they take AMD's word for it?

So, Xeon X5460 (3.16 GHz) will cost $1172 and 2,4GHz Barkie will have similar price. Same goes for the Opteron 2350 with 1.9GHz going for a Xeon E5420 (2.50 GHz) like price $316. Sorry, I don't have that much trust in AMD.
08-23-2007, 12:16 AM
Shintai

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donnie27

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...815102710.html

Picks self up from the floor from laughing for hard.

Please, somebody explain to me why someone say something that Dumb and still be respected? The estimates presented as facts based on what? 3.16 compared to a 2.4GHz Barkie? What, did they take AMD's word for it?

So, Xeon X5460 (3.16 GHz) will cost $1172 and 2,4GHz Barkie will have similar price. Same goes for the Opteron 2350 with 1.9GHz going for a Xeon E5420 (2.50 GHz) like price $316. Sorry, I don't have that much trust in AMD.

Just compare prices today on Opterons vs Xeons. Huuuge performance delta in the same pricerange.
08-23-2007, 09:14 AM
Donnie27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

Just compare prices today on Opterons vs Xeons. Huuuge performance delta in the same pricerange.

Yup, kind of sucks uh?
08-23-2007, 10:49 AM
Zytek_Fan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

Just compare prices today on Opterons vs Xeons. Huuuge performance delta in the same pricerange.

Sorry AMD, but Xeon Harpertown > Opteron Barcelona at this moment.
08-28-2007, 07:27 PM
Ace-a-Rue

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

I think you meant "inoffensive":rofl:
Loved the "room service" line..VERY good!:up:
WCG= World community grid..Medical research.
We make our machines work in the hope that we can help eliminate some very nasty diseases such as aids and right now they also are doing work similar to what F@H does..Protein folding..Find out why some go wrong and screw you up..
How's that for a plain description?
Also some of the smartest, experienced people you will find and all have one thing in common..We want to help..No ego crap and we work as friends..

you are so much better than me...mean it...i try to be level headed but my emotions, at times, just run amock...must be the german in me...OR...was that irish...LOL:rofl: :ROTF:

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