Real Temp - New temp program for Intel Core processors

Wishmaker: Thanks for posting that. Maybe that's the reason I didn't want to share version 3.38. :D

I was moving some code around so it looks like it's still a work in progress. If you want you can manually set TJMax to 105C.

At least it looks like it is showing the Intel Dynamic Acceleration feature of your CPU. Run a single thread of SuperPI and during the middle of it take a screen shot so I can see what your multiplier is reporting. This CPU can use a 13X multi when only a single core is active. The average is usually less than that due to background processes.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/968/t8300.png

By default, version 3.38 seems to be using the correct TJMax=105 for a T8300

Can you go into your Settings window and click on the Defaults button?

Do the numbers at the top beside the Set TJ Max button show 105? It's possible that it found 85 in your INI file and decided to use that but the Default button should set this to the correct 105. If it does then click on OK so it can save it and overwrite the 85 that's in your RealTemp.ini file.

New RT Beta for Gulftown :up:

http://www.abload.de/thumb/rtgtn6wo.jpg

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Originally Posted by jcool

New RT Beta for Gulftown :up:

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Shhh, it's a secret. if stasio or Monstru find out, they'll hunt you down. :D

I just sent you the beta 2 version. Beta 1 wasn't reading TJMax from all 6 cores so hopefully that's fixed now. When I get the Cool Down Test and Settings window fixed up, I'll post a download link.

First 3 core TJ Max 102.:rolleyes:
But nice,waiting for link.:clap:
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Core Temp show VID!

Due to popular demand... Q3QR on water, realtemp GT Beta 2:

http://database.he-computer.de/Bilde...town/RTGT2.jpg

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Originally Posted by stasio

Core Temp show VID!

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I think Core Temp is assuming that it is some sort of Core 2 processor so it tries to do a VID calculation on whatever data it finds. There's still no known way to read VID from Core i5/i7/i9 CPUs.

Thanks jcool. That looks better. Now it's reading TJMax = 102 from each core correctly. :up:

Jcool: thats sweet :D

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Originally Posted by unclewebb

Thanks jcool. That looks better. Now it's reading TJMax = 102 from each core correctly. :up:

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Uncle,as per your post:http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=240
TJMax = 105:confused:

I believe that jcool switched to a different CPU today when the mail man showed up. My MSR Tool isn't set up to read all 6 cores yet but hopefully it is adequate to read MSR 0x1A2. If anyone has a 6 core CPU, can you click on the link in stasio's post and run the MSR Tool program and post your results. If RealTemp is using 102C for these CPUs then we should see 66 hiding in that hexadecimal number.

Yeah, that is a Q3QR 3,07Ghz Xeon. The other ones were Q3QS (2,53Ghz Xeon) and Q2WV (2,4Ghz Xeon). All are Westmere-EP though, not Gulftown (meaning these are all Dual QPI DP chips, as opposed to Gulftown = i9 XE w/o 2nd QPI link)

Here's your MSR, it is indeed a 66 (evil CPU? :cool: )

66 hex = TJMax 102 :up:

I think the one you were testing the other day was a TJMax = 105.

Since I have zero documentation from Intel, I don't think I'll bother trying to identify these correctly. I'll use Intel Core i9 for all of 'em until about 5 or 6 months from now when I finally get to get in line like everyone else and have a look at the official documentation.

I'm just happy that I've been able to make it this far with the help of the XS community. The next beta is just about done. The new Settings window will cover more screen real estate than you can ever imagine. :rofl:

Hehehe, looking forward to that, nig monitors MUST have a purpose after all :)

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I think the one you were testing the other day was a TJMax = 105.

Since I have zero documentation from Intel, I don't think I'll bother trying to identify these correctly. I'll use Intel Core i9 for all of 'em until about 5 or 6 months from now when I finally get to get in line like everyone else and have a look at the official documentation.

I'm just happy that I've been able to make it this far with the help of the XS community. The next beta is just about done. The new Settings window will cover more screen real estate than you can ever imagine. :rofl:

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All of mine are Westmere-EP cores like I said ;)
Westmere-EP will be the DP Xeons, Gulftown will be the i9 (XE only?)

As for the model names, I don't think they are decided upon yet :rofl:

I'm not really sure how to interpret the data in the i7 Turbo log, as I'm not sure what thread it's gathering data from. So I'll let you look at it and maybe you can see what is going on, or where something doesn't seem right with my testing.

http://www.mediafire.com/?zntbwzfjtiq - No Affinity
http://www.mediafire.com/?zvgec24mtjt - Set affinity

I also noted the times it took to do the superpi runs (I did the load testing with 32M). After 3 loops of 32M:

1m 39.150s - No Affinity
1m 46.164s - Set Affinity

However, I also did a quick 1M run without logging the multi with i7 turbo, and the results aren't different beyond margin of variation (I ran each twice):

0m 14.110s 1M - Affinity set
0m 14.109s 1M - No affinity

If you decide to enable i7 turbo to log data from all threads (and let me know what part of the log is the info I should be looking at ;)) I can make a pretty graph in Excel showing the multi over time for each thread.

randomizer: I think that's what rge was finding as well that letting the CPU manage what core to run a task on gave the best performance. Locking tasks to cores like the good old days seems to be less efficient.

Your log file data shows me that I need to update the logging feature so it can log each thread individually. That's the only way I'd be able to see exactly what's going on during a benchmark. Then I think it would be very obvious when one thread starts running with the highest multiplier during a Super PI bench. I'll put that on the things to do list as well.

Let me know when you're done and I'll get some more data :up:

@unclewebb, post #3817: Could the reason that a single task runs faster if not locked to 1 core is that it gets to use multiple lots of L1 and L2 (?) caches (the non-shared levels)?
Just an idea.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/u1iihp

There are two versions of RealTemp in this download. If you have a new 6 core Gulftown CPU then try running RealTempGT.exe

It's officially called beta 3 but everything is hooked up now and I've done some testing so hopefully it is ready for prime time. If anyone has 10 minutes to spare, post a CPU Cool Down Test of these new 32nm sensors. I don't think they are quite as good as the excellent Core i7-900 series sensors but I'll have to wait for some retail processor testing about 6 months from now before passing final judgment. :)

If you see any bugs let me know.

When run on a Gainestown Dual Quad system, RealTemp GT should show the first 3 cores of each CPU. I'm using the numbering scheme 0 1 2 4 5 6 partially for this reason and partially because internally in the new 6 core CPUs, they are arranged in two groups of 3.

This program works fine on a Dual Core CPU but will only show 3 of your 4 cores if you have a single Quad. It's not designed for these so use the regular version of RealTemp.exe instead.

Fungus: I found a fix for the icons disappearing when you kill explorer.exe
This new code is in RealTempGT.exe and hopefully by tomorrow I can add that code into the regular version of RealTemp
Thanks again for bringing that problem to my attention.

As requested, here's a cooldown test on the Gulftown. RT GT Beta 3, ~30C water, load Vcore ~1,35V DMM.
Seems the sensors are working just fine. :up:

Alternative download: http://lakesidepc.com/RealTempGTBeta3.zip

Everything looks good jcool. Thanks for the data.

These new sensors don't look as good as the Core i7-900 series but at least they're not all getting stuck like the 45nm Core 2 Quads and Duos do. Oh, I forgot. The old sensors don't get stuck, they simply become saturated at lower temperatures and might "bottom out".

loonym: I checked out the lakesidepc.com site. It looks like a work in progress. At least you got some decent software on that site. :D

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/...alTempBeta.zip

This version includes a new right mouse button menu and a fix for the disappearing system tray icons when explorer is killed or crashes.

Core 2 idle MHz accuracy improved, especially for Core 2 mobile chips that can access the deeper sleep states like C3.

RealTemp GT updated and first official release.

A little more info added to the GPU button for Nvidia owners. If anyone has an SLI setup and would like to see individual info for each of their GPUs in this box and is willing to help a little with testing, let me know.

The RivaTuner plugin has been updated to support the new socket 1156 CPUs as well as Gulftown 6 core and Gainestown Dual Quad computers. I don't have access to any of these systems so if you have one, post some screen shots so I can see if the RivaTuner plugin is working as intended.

A Dual Quad Gainestown system might result in 37 individual RivaTuner graphs so be prepared to turn your monitor sideways before taking a screen shot. :rofl:

Thanks unclewebb, will try on my Dual Gainestown later ;)