Not sticky worthy, too lengthy and brand/model specific IMHO. I like your thinking though sky and bobdole, there IS some good info in here.
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Not sticky worthy, too lengthy and brand/model specific IMHO. I like your thinking though sky and bobdole, there IS some good info in here.
soulburner, zippyc
i hear you and you're right, of course.. wouldn't have minded my first sticky (but only for that reason ;) )..
oh on another note.. is anyone around able to verify the 128mb -> xt thingy? well i have a 9800/128 in a box right now, but i probably won't open it until tomorrow (if at all). i've heard of ppl flashing a 128mb xt-bios onto these and they've gotten some neat results. in case someone is wondering, there actually IS an xt-bios for 128mb cards. i got 6 of them around, just no webspace that will allow me hosting them.. mine only allows bitmaps and checks them - so renaming won't cut it - i tried "doesn't appear to be a valid bmp (png, jpg, whatever)" grrrr.
k. this is the list of 128mb xt-bios' i've got - i didn't test any of those:
ATI.9800XT.128MB.Samsung.E-die.bin
Gigabyte.9800XT.128MB.Samsung.bin
GigaCube.9800XT.128MB.Samsung.E-die.bin
Hercules.9800XT.128MB.Samsung.bin
HIS.9800XT.128MB.Samsung.bin
Sapphire.9800XT.128MB.Samsung.E-die.bin
these were taken from some japanese website - don't remember the url anymore and might (dunno about it) just be edited 256mb bios to fit onto the 128mb pro-cards. but i don't know that. if anyone wants to try those or host them (or both) drop me a line...
i will host them! -> got pm
sky,
I got those bios as well & they're relabeled 9800pro bios iirc.
You can find more here:
Clicky here for 9800XT 128MB Bios
Not much use except for a "128MB 9800XT" in your device manager imo.
My thread on 128MB 9800pro Bios here:
Original Powercolor 9800pro bios @ 412/730 = 20334Quote:
Originally posted by The Stilt
All these fakes are made by me. Genuine 9800XT bios wouldnt do anything that XT modded Pro bios wouldnt do...
Pick which one you like best...
One of the Samsung E-Die 128MB 9800XT Bios = 20314
Just selected the 4 Game Tests & let them run, no trying to get highest score possible...
:2cents:
edit:
I was a little bit rude in my thread, that's why the term "fakes" was used by "The Stilt"....
@ minnyboy: no changes in overclockability? driver features? :(
thanx for postin a link to those bios Minny,
ill be tryin em on my pro
Nah mate, not for me.Quote:
Originally posted by Goldlocke
@ minnyboy: no changes in overclockability? driver features? :(
Others have reported getting higher mem OC's but I didn't. iirc, the ram started artifacting on mine at 400 while my original Powercolor (as well as the GeCube 9800pro eXtreme bios I used) got through 405 (up to 410 for some tests) with "less" artifacts...
I'd suggest you either back up your original bios or d/load the version you have from OCfaq, put it on that floppy & then test out the different 128MB XT bios available to see if you gain any more mhz....That's if you wanna give it a shot.
I still think that it's worth a shot to see if you can agin anything but unfortunately for me, it didn't work out.
No Overdrive as well unless you have those 256MB Sapphire relabeled XT's with the 3pin fans.
BTW, I tested with the latest drivers available at the time (3.8's or 3.9's me thinks) as well as forcing the 3.1's to work with my VC.
mirror for R9800XT -> Pro biosfiles up!
I don't know if they are the same files as above...just check it out
click here!
card #2 arrived. core goes a little higher with stock hs, memory craps out somewhat earlier than card #1. doh. 423/389. anyway i'll start measuring voltages tomorrow and hook a biggo fan to it. if i can get hold of one, i'll use a p4 3.0 boxed cooler on it :D we'll see. so far the card does ok...
got a 9800p /128 to toy around with aswell :D (darn shop did send the wrong card, a 128mb pro, as replacement for #1, lol)
thing worth mentioning is the core temp is about 10°C lower with this card and same cats (4.2) than the last one.. fully loaded i'm at 58-59°C whereas my first card had 68-69°C... hmmm better contact to the hs?
so did you vmod it yet and if so, what results / improvements did you get? my 2nd card - so far unmodded - acts pretty much like my 1st. with the difference being temps are lower and with a 120mm fan blowing at the stock hs, i can clock higher ~428.Quote:
Originally posted by Hollywood
Will voltmod only vgpu tommorow or Tuesday.
i'd really like to see if you got the same issues with the xt-vgpu mod i encountered with card #1 or not.
Man...I've been totally burdened with Mid-terms and teaching lab classes all week. I'm gonna voltmod when I get some freetime on Sunday. Thanks for reminding me though, as I almost forgot!Quote:
Originally posted by sky
so did you vmod it yet and if so, what results / improvements did you get? my 2nd card - so far unmodded - acts pretty much like my 1st. with the difference being temps are lower and with a 120mm fan blowing at the stock hs, i can clock higher ~428.
i'd really like to see if you got the same issues with the xt-vgpu mod i encountered with card #1 or not.
-Holly
P.S. - Since the vdimm mod on my first one didn't really do crap....I think I'm just gonna do vgpu first and take it nice and slow...Don't need to cook another one. ;)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7652502
I just fried mine trying to get 24k on stock Bios. Bumped the volts from 1.98 to 2.1 and it sizzled. Didn't get a chance to flash it before I killed it!!! 510\405 with vgpu mod and Chilled water on a 80 watt TEC. Score could have been much better but I need a sata controler cause the on board craps out at 225 fsb. I got 2 so I will try agian next weekend.
so your 256mb pro let you vmod it? good to know :D, also sad to see/hear your card deceased. i've measured the voltages on my 2nd 256mb pro and well.. the vref is behaving just like the old one, so i guess that is either normal for these cards ;) or that's why they are being relabeled. vgpu was way lower on idle than my first card - it idles at ~1.720v going up under load to approx 1.77v but only on very few occasions below the 1.72v. aite.. and with this card i've seen improvement with increased cooling. running a 120mm fan at 7v to blow at the stock heatsink gave me a less artifacts at the same speed. increasing the fan speed to full throttle at 12v gave me even higher clocks without artifacts :D and this heatsink doesn't move around on the core like the old one did. also it seems to sit flat on the shim whereas my first card allowed you a pretty good view of the side of the core above the shim and below the heatsink... to bad the mem craps out ~20 mhz lower than the last one.Quote:
Originally posted by 2fast4u
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7652502
I just fried mine trying to get 24k on stock Bios. Bumped the volts from 1.98 to 2.1 and it sizzled. Didn't get a chance to flash it before I killed it!!! 510\405 with vgpu mod and Chilled water on a 80 watt TEC. Score could have been much better but I need a sata controler cause the on board craps out at 225 fsb. I got 2 so I will try agian next weekend.
2fast4you, did you use the vpgu-voltmod shown in the 9800xt thread on your card that died? if so, you don't happen to have any pics? thanks.
hollywood, looking forward to hearing of your experiences with the vgpu mod on your card!
just picked up a refurbished sapphire 9800pro/256 at newegg($229),but I had to get up early this sunday morning to look for it.
seems like newegg likes to post their refurbished items after midnight!(PST)
I've got a Sapphire 9800PRO with 128MB DDR, looked at the core and it says R360, memory is the Samsung GC2A rated for 350/700.
Ah hell, it'll still OC nice :D too bad there aren't any mods for them (modded XT BIOS for 128MB cards).
Back
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a94015...sung.E-die.bin ?Quote:
Originally posted by hallowen
just picked up a refurbished sapphire 9800pro/256 at newegg($229),but I had to get up early this sunday morning to look for it.
seems like newegg likes to post their refurbished items after midnight!(PST)
Could you test it PLZ gilles, I might be interested in your particular card if this mod works ;)
Grtz,
BD
yea, got one like that by accident - tested it and it oc'es like crap! not even xt-clocks with stock cooling and much airflow - 120mm delta afb @12v. ati tool started artifacting at 414 core - so the usable value would be a good deal below that - and that was artifacting without heating it up before! - mem didn't go far either .. ~380. so after testing i decided to keep my 256mb pro xt layout - given proper cooling it will go far :D. stock heatsink and good airflow (see above, 12v delta afb) it went to 430/385.
tried the hercules xt bios on it and it would lower clocks for me - only about 422 (pfff) ;)
oh.. here's a pic of that crappy 128mb - pretty close to your card regarding serial no... week 0406...
http://www.abi02.de/deepblue2k2/hard...0rear%2001.jpg
oh and your card having an r360 core on it seems to be a proof for a theory i've been hearing lately - that there's only r360 cores around and that the actual r350 core isn't being produced anymore. *rumour* not (yet) verified!.
I used the guide from the 9800xt thread. Voltage seemed to fluctuate alot under load. I will get some pics up tonight. I was running the 9800 pro stock bios. I had my pump too close to the floppy and it seems to have screwed it up as I can't get anything to boot from it so I can't flash. I think these cards have real potential with xtreme cooling and xtreme volts, I just went a little too far!!Quote:
Originally posted by sky
2fast4you, did you use the vpgu-voltmod shown in the 9800xt thread on your card that died? if so, you don't happen to have any pics? thanks.
I'll check it on wednesdayQuote:
Originally posted by Belgian_Dude
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a94015...sung.E-die.bin ?
Could you test it PLZ gilles, I might be interested in your particular card if this mod works ;)
Grtz,
BD
oh btw.. in case someone wants to try.. don't try running the vidmem on your 9800pro at cl3 - i edited the ati25hynix xt bios from cl2 to cl3 and flashed - *bad idea* - screen all mumbojumbo garbled and stuff and i had to preform an almost-blind flash back to the real cl2 ati xt bios ;)... wanted to see if higher latencies might go make for higher memclocks and what the difference in performance at same clocks between cl2 and cl3 on vidmem was... turned out it's a no-go ;)
k. did you measure your vref? where was it at? on both my cards it was somewhere around 1.505v at idle (no matter what clocks) and swinging between 1.46-1.56v. in mother nature (3d2k3) it was basically swinging between 1.5 and 1.56v whereas all the other tests & all of 3d2k1 was between 1.46 and 1.52v vref.Quote:
Originally posted by 2fast4u
I used the guide from the 9800xt thread. Voltage seemed to fluctuate alot under load. I will get some pics up tonight. I was running the 9800 pro stock bios. I had my pump too close to the floppy and it seems to have screwed it up as I can't get anything to boot from it so I can't flash. I think these cards have real potential with xtreme cooling and xtreme volts, I just went a little too far!!
just wanted to check if this is kinda normal / typical for these cards and if you encountered any other strange behaviours regarding voltages.
tia
Just for a little clarification...Quote:
Originally posted by sky
oh btw.. in case someone wants to try.. don't try running the vidmem on your 9800pro at cl3 - i edited the ati25hynix xt bios from cl2 to cl3 and flashed - *bad idea* - screen all mumbojumbo garbled and stuff and i had to preform an almost-blind flash back to the real cl2 ati xt bios ;)... wanted to see if higher latencies might go make for higher memclocks and what the difference in performance at same clocks between cl2 and cl3 on vidmem was... turned out it's a no-go ;)
k. did you measure your vref? where was it at? on both my cards it was somewhere around 1.505v at idle (no matter what clocks) and swinging between 1.46-1.56v. in mother nature (3d2k3) it was basically swinging between 1.5 and 1.56v whereas all the other tests & all of 3d2k1 was between 1.46 and 1.52v vref.
just wanted to check if this is kinda normal / typical for these cards and if you encountered any other strange behaviours regarding voltages.
tia
What exactly does Vref do??? Boost the overall voltage to the cards subsystems???
Interesting ctgilles, but the PCB is still Pro....
GOOD NEWS!! IT'S STILL ALIVE!!!Quote:
Originally posted by 2fast4u
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7652502
I just fried mine trying to get 24k on stock Bios. Bumped the volts from 1.98 to 2.1 and it sizzled. Didn't get a chance to flash it before I killed it!!! 510\405 with vgpu mod and Chilled water on a 80 watt TEC. Score could have been much better but I need a sata controler cause the on board craps out at 225 fsb. I got 2 so I will try agian next weekend.
I took the TEC off and the volt mod and decided to try and revive it. It worked! The only thing is that the vgpu is now at 1.4 volts. It won't be much of a clocker at that voltage.
Sounds like you could have killed some caps or power circuitry of some sort...