You might be a little too drunk...nobody is raging or "emo" :rolleyes: or even worked up :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Plywood99
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Oese
Talking about BD is at least 50% relevant, PD is like "BD+" :yepp:
Vishera is to Zambezi as Deneb is to Agena (minus process shrink and a whole lot of cache :p:)
I think, it will be in Q3Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
FAB8 is the new one (third AMD fab?)
GloFo has 8 fabs now, 3-300mm and 5-200mm fabs that used to be Charter, and there was talk of a 9th fab.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
I wouldn't call them AMD fabs, I think AMD only owns around 10-15% of GloFo now.
GLOBALFOUNDRIES Fabs , An aerial view of Fab 8
A future built on silicon
Trinity with PD cores
http://hothardware.com/News/AMD-Fusi...olt-In-Action/
25% increase in TDP range on desktop products, 15% CPU gain + 30% GPU gain?
omg where did you read the 25% increase in tdp......Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
lower tdp. they mean increase in power efficiency.Quote:
Originally Posted by undone
FMA is supported in BDver1 CPUs(FMA4),so CPU world made a mistake. FMA3 is a new ISA extension supported by Piledriver which is now compatible with intel's haswell FMA3.
edit: I see CPU world corrected the FMA mistake,nice.
I think this statement is from here:Quote:
— Mobile (35W): +25% for the CPU and +50% for the GPU vs a mobile Llano (35-45W);
http://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/39091/5/
25% increase in PCmark Vantage(Productivity), 50% increase with GPU in 3dMark Vantage(Performance)
Hardware.fr got this directly from AMD, they got a reporter at CES.
For Desktop vs Desktop parts(PD vs Llano), AMD states 15% faster CPU side and 30% faster GPU side.
Before it was reported that trinity will have 65w, 100w, and 125w parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by undone
One would have to imagine the 15% CPU gain and 30% GPU gain are seen only with the extra 25w headroom given. I'm sure there will be a significant increase with GPU at 100w too, but we will see.
EDIT:
I see that from CES, news states 100w TDP on desktop...if true then I welcome x86 improvements PD brings over STARS with open arms ;D
"The GPU portion will be based on AMD's Southern Islands architecture..."
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/...ultrathins.ars
could be?
No. Fab 8 was a joint venture between Global Foundries and IBM along with other JDA (joint development alliance) companies like Toshiba, Samsung, and Renesas.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
And contrary to what the article says, Fab 8 is nowhere near producing chips that will see the consumer market. It's going to be another 6 months before everything becomes fully operational, and a full year before they begin actual revenue production. Only some time after that will they reach high volume production in 2013.
To be honest, I have absolutely no idea where Charlie gets these so called "facts" that he put in his articles. I have a feeling he was wearing his pink bunny suit while typing it up and forgot that Journalists must maintain some sort of professionalism and accuracy.
And yes... this is an actual photo of Charlie in the previously mentioned suit. It was punishment for publicly challenging executives @ Intel while having his facts wrong. :) He lost the bet.
http://www.theinquirer.net/img/8492/chax.jpg
Here are my facts btw...
http://www.globalfoundries.com/manuf..._overview.aspx
What do you think about these?:
http://apps.corel.com/lp/amd/index.html
http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1294863829.html
Corel support AMD and his APU/FX processor.
Or, Red Hat in this document: http://www.redhat.com/f/pdf/RHEL_6_2...s_benefits.pdf
Red Hat says that RHEL 6.2 supports Bulldozer and Piledriver. Is it true?
"Gcc, glibc, gdb, oprofile — include optimizations to support new chip set capabilities — Intel Westmere & Ivy Bridge, AMD Bulldozer & Piledriver"
What I'm wondering about is the Pcmark benchmark, I have seeking many results about this bench but I can't reach a reasonable conclusion that what this bench is testing, single core or multithread? What I can sure is the result has no relationship with GPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by undone
EDIT: could these two pics describe something? I thought the A8 comparison in second pic is the source of '15% increase' statement.
http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...ge/chart15.jpg
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/11-11-21/110c.jpg
looks like pcmark doesn't utilize more than 4 threads, and very bias to single core performance.
Nope, VLIW4.Quote:
Originally Posted by cesariuth
AMD Describes Piledriver Architecture Peculiarities to Software Developers
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...evelopers.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/news/...y_features.jpg
Vishera(FX) is indeed a ten core cpu.Quote:
Interestingly, but the maximum amount of cores inside Vishera (next-gen FX-class desktop-chip), Sepang (1-die Opteron chip for 1-2 socket servers) and Terramar (2-die Opteron MCM for 2-4 socket servers) microprocessors is considered to be ten, not eight in case of Vishera as noted earlier. Moreover, it looks like the silicon behind all three of the products seems to be very same.
Based on new, old and very old data compiled by Xbit-Labs.Quote:
Originally Posted by undone
Think, we will be smarter after AMD Analyst day next month :)
I think Vishera will stay 8 core...I thought the newer slides all said 8 core, only the very first around bulldozer release said anything about 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartidiot89
10 will be maybe only for servers (so Teramar/Sepang)
Correct, I should've made my sarcasm more obvious :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Komodo was a 10-core part including the Northbridge (PCI-E hub if you'd like) integrated, with Tri-channel memory. Sepang would be the server variant, while Terramer would be a 20-core one. Now without Komodo, I am not too sure Sepang and Terramer are still on the list to come to servers so 16-core might still be the highest AMD has to offer. According to the new plans, or shall we say leaks... Vishera will be an AM3+ compatible 8-core Piledriver CPU. Of course I am basing this all on leaks, all I know for sure is that Vishera is very real... ;)
Like Flank3r said, all of this will probably be clear after Analyst Day which will be held the 2nd of february :D Until then it's hardly worth speculating in anything AMD-related as all their official roadmaps released last Analyst Day are useless today due to all changes.