Feser's New Lineup

Factotum: Well, i'm 95% shure that one of drawbacks will still be there (higher price). But if they manage to pull off with best performance, they can also charge a bit higher price. Problem with their previous rads was that they charged premium anyway without real top performance to justify it except backing with pushy advertising.

At the end imho swiftech seems to have made smarter business decision. I'm guessing that they get same profit from each unit sold from their cheap MCR rads as TFC will from admiral (taking into account higher manufacturing price of admiral), but swiftech wins in much larger sold volumes. 95% performance of top for half of it's price imho works better then 110% of previous top for 1.5x the price (of course, these numbers are guesstimated speculation of mine).

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Originally Posted by Boogerlad

That dev doesn't seem very smart... higher flow rate means better performance if heatdump is controlled.

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incorrect for rads

@churchy:
I think the Feser will not hear us

Taking too long >_<

Im ready for a 2nd rad in my loop ... come on with it!

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Originally Posted by Factotum

incorrect for rads

@churchy:
I think the Feser will not hear us

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that link is about liquid flow rate, we're talking fan/air here, also he proves himself wrong later in the thread.

The material, these radiators are made of, is aluminum and stainless-steel.
http://hw-lab.com/feser-admiral-radi...acts-only.html

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Originally Posted by rheydt

The material, these radiators are made of, is aluminum and stainless-steel.
http://hw-lab.com/feser-admiral-radi...acts-only.html

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Thanks for posting the link..:up:

my pleasure, important is, at least now we are finally clear about the material, which admiral rads are made of.

We already knew, link was posted a week and few days ago by churchy http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=342

sorry, i didn´t see that post!

WOW

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Originally Posted by Dazmode

ADMIRAL RADIATOR GIVE AWAY CONTEST
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Get your chance to WIN brand new FREE Admiral Radiator by posting your watercooling build pictures with description.
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When and how contest ends?

Winner will be randomly selected from all entries.

Contest will end as soon as we get Admirals in our stock. You will be one of the first people worldwide to get this product!

Estimated date: Mid-December (as of Nov 3rd update).

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Source

I mean, will they have the rads by that time for sure?
Skinnee, are you in? ;)

i read somewhere that these radiators will be very expensive ... :) can you confirm it?

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Originally Posted by KURTZ

i read somewhere that these radiators will be very expensive ... :) can you confirm it?

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No, I cant. There is no exact information of prices for these rads

I dont like the port hole placement on these rads, too close together

i doubt the performance of this rad with stainess steel with aluminum fins, coz there is no good method to connect steel with aluminum, a typical pc radiator has following tubes and fins: tube wall thickness 0,1 mm, copper thickness 0,045 mm

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Originally Posted by rheydt

i doubt the performance of this rad with stainess steel with aluminum fins, coz there is no good method to connect steel with aluminum, a typical pc radiator has following tubes and fins: tube wall thickness 0,1 mm, copper thickness 0,045 mm

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steel is a lot more durable then copper.
Which would allow you to use less thickness of steel.

Also, most rads minus a select few are made from brass chambers.

Also the type of steel used would be very important.

But specific heat of different metals:

Nickel steel 0.456 0.109
Brass 0.377 0.090
Beryllium Copper 0.42 0.10

Nickle steel isnt bad.

this is what i found in wikipedia: List of thermal conductivities
Stainless steel 12.11 ~ 45.0; Copper 401; Aluminium 237 (pure), 120—180 (alloys)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity

*yawn* I guess those rads will hit the shops next year...not before end of january

You can look at this little appetizer for some entertainment:

Watercool HTF4 Series - Prototype Parts:

http://www.abload.de/img/htf4_teileu69i.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/proto_radib6pb.jpg


No more Info yet, just the pics for some speculations :)

^^ That rad looks better than the admiral, imo. Thanks for the find bundy

that deserves it's own thread. Please don't hijack a thread.

I bet those Watercool rads and Feser rads have the same manufacturer.;)

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Originally Posted by Boogerlad

that deserves it's own thread. Please don't hijack a thread.

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:up: :yepp:

look posting above, so it fits :D

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Originally Posted by SpuTnicK

I bet those Watercool rads and Feser rads have the same manufacturer.;)

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I bet they don't. ;)

okay,

I'm going to take a stab at these from the sneak peeks shown. I haven't had time to read this whole thread and see if anyone had made a deduction.
These are quite simply tubes with fins on them. Manufacturing is pretty simple. Get a very thick walled metal tube, run it through a skiver in a tight, circular fashion. I've seen it being manufactured before so it's no biggie. You'll always see this sort of tube having a spiral pattern instead of having individual 'rings' because it's the most efficient method of manufacture.

I fact, I'd reckon it's easier to manufacture than standard PC rads.

Performance wise, I don't know.

cant see the Watercool HTF4 Series pics :(