Official HD4870X2 (R700) Review Thread

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08-27-2008, 01:49 AM
Shakti

With vsync always on absolutely no MS here, (my second ati card after the 850 xt, had voodoo1, voodoo2, voodoo3, matrox millenium, geforce 3, geforce 5900, GTX 8800) all on air idle fanspeed 1200 , idle temp gpu1 50, gpu2 70, in action temp is 65 and 86 and fanspeed between 2000 and 2800, tower is silverstone tj-07, MB is Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro, C2D @ 3200, 4 GB RAM, Vista x64, XP and XP x64.
08-27-2008, 02:43 AM
Buck47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milos-stancene

What would be better ATI HD 4870X2 or GTX260 SLI ???
Thanx!

Perkam answered that one:

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Originally Posted by perkam

PCGH did a MS test and found that MS only occurs when the average FPS drops below 40FPS, which doesn't happen even at 2560 resolution with 4xAA 16xAF in most games.

Crysis is the only game where drivers are lacking at the moment. Beyond that, there is little comparison between GTX 280. The X2 is faster than GTX 280 SLI in games at high resolutions and high AA.
Perkam
08-27-2008, 07:46 AM
Milos-stancene

The X2 is faster than GTX 280 SLI in games at high resolutions and high AA.
Perkam
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08-27-2008, 07:51 AM
Cooper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milos-stancene

The X2 is faster than GTX 280 SLI in games at high resolutions and high AA.
Perkam
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check the first post. This IS a review thread :D
08-27-2008, 08:24 AM
Milos-stancene

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooper

check the first post. This IS a review thread :D

Yes,thanx!
But there is not with SLI comparation!!! :down:
08-27-2008, 08:27 AM
Tonucci

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milos-stancene

The X2 is faster than GTX 280 SLI in games at high resolutions and high AA.
Perkam
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I was reading some reviews to verify that statement and it looks like it happens in SOME games.
08-27-2008, 08:42 AM
Unbornchild

Baffling? :clap:
You buy one card, or the other. If one performs better than the other in all games, it's easy choice. If it also in most -or many- games performs the same or better than TWO of the other in SLI but costs half (1 card vs 2) the choice is even easier.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milos-stancene

Yes,thanx!
But there is not with SLI comparation!!! :down:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3372&p=4 :rolleyes:
08-27-2008, 09:15 AM
Atal

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

The X2 is faster than GTX 280 SLI in games at high resolutions and high AA.

Perkam

and 2 months ago guys were drooling and praising the 260's and 280's :rofl:
08-27-2008, 11:16 AM
perkam

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Originally Posted by Atal

and 2 months ago guys were drooling and praising the 260's and 280's :rofl:

It's a bug called impartiality. I can't get it off of me :D

Check TechReport, Legitreviews, Anandtech and many more for 4870X2 Pwning GTX 280 SLI.

Perkam
08-27-2008, 03:57 PM
Elfear

Has anyone seen any review sites post up info about PCI-E 1.1 possibly bottlenecking the 4870 x2? I've seen reports comparing Crossfire/SLI on P45/X38/X48 platforms but nothing comparing the different platforms with one 4870 x2.
08-27-2008, 09:04 PM
emuexport

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shakti

With vsync always on absolutely no MS here, (my second ati card after the 850 xt, had voodoo1, voodoo2, voodoo3, matrox millenium, geforce 3, geforce 5900, GTX 8800) all on air idle fanspeed 1200 , idle temp gpu1 50, gpu2 70, in action temp is 65 and 86 and fanspeed between 2000 and 2800, tower is silverstone tj-07, MB is Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro, C2D @ 3200, 4 GB RAM, Vista x64, XP and XP x64.

Shakti,

Looks like your GPU2 is sticking in 3D mode clocks, check the clocks. I think its a driver issue. I get the same after a restart etc and one GPU is @750 clock and the other is at 507. By running a 3D app it resets it on mine and all is back to normal.

Might not be but just thought I'd point it out. if anyone knows of a more permanent fix let me know. (I was using official 8.8s now on 8.8betas but havent checked again)

emu
08-28-2008, 05:33 AM
Cooperdale

Quote:

Originally Posted by emuexport

Shakti,

Looks like your GPU2 is sticking in 3D mode clocks, check the clocks. I think its a driver issue. I get the same after a restart etc and one GPU is @750 clock and the other is at 507. By running a 3D app it resets it on mine and all is back to normal.

Might not be but just thought I'd point it out. if anyone knows of a more permanent fix let me know. (I was using official 8.8s now on 8.8betas but havent checked again)

emu

The same here, but to see the primary gpu @ 750 I have to look at the first page in Gpu-z. CCC and the second page of Gpu-z (the one with the sensors) both report 500, as if the gpu was in 2d mode as the secondary one. But only the latter is actually in 2d mode.
08-28-2008, 03:04 PM
safan80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooperdale

The same here, but to see the primary gpu @ 750 I have to look at the first page in Gpu-z. CCC and the second page of Gpu-z (the one with the sensors) both report 500, as if the gpu was in 2d mode as the secondary one. But only the latter is actually in 2d mode.

I have the same problem at boot up. the easiest way to fix it and make both gpus run at 500 is to run a 3d app and then exit it.
08-28-2008, 03:54 PM
Shakti

Yes, one @ 507 and the other @ 750 came with the new 8.8 driver, the driver on cd (by the way, a selfburned cd, lol) was beta and did not show this behavior. So i hope with the next release this will be corrected. I have 86 degrees on gpu2 idle with this driver...
08-28-2008, 03:57 PM
Cooperdale

It also happens with another beta, 8.854. These are very good drivers, rumored to be the base for Catalyst 8.9, but still have this problem.
09-03-2008, 09:53 AM
Final8ty

CPU Scaling With The Radeon HD 4870 X2

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=770&p=0

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Today we are testing at a range of CPU’s with the new Radeon HD 4870 X2 graphics card, to try and determine what kind of processing power is required to push this new dual-GPU monster to the limit. In total there are 40 CPU configurations tested, including processors from the Intel Core 2 Quad and Core 2 Duo series, along with a number of AMD Phenom X4 and Athlon64 X2 processors…
09-03-2008, 10:05 AM
zlojack

Interesting review, for sure.

I've got some issues with the conclusions, but overall, good information to have.
09-05-2008, 01:43 PM
Milos-stancene

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unbornchild

Baffling? :clap:
You buy one card, or the other. If one performs better than the other in all games, it's easy choice. If it also in most -or many- games performs the same or better than TWO of the other in SLI but costs half (1 card vs 2) the choice is even easier.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3372&p=4 :rolleyes:

Thank you :clap::up:
09-07-2008, 09:09 AM
Xcel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Final8ty

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=770&p=0

I love the test idea but it's ridiculous they didn't test at 2560*1600. Hey they have the most powerful graphics card atm, which gets so much fps it doesn't matter if you get 100 or 200 fps at 1920*1200. Why no love for 2560 :hitself:
09-07-2008, 09:17 AM
ether.real

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xcel

I love the test idea but it's ridiculous they didn't test at 2560*1600. Hey they have the most powerful graphics card atm, which gets so much fps it doesn't matter if you get 100 or 200 fps at 1920*1200. Why no love for 2560 :hitself:

Because not even all reviewers have 30" monitors at their disposal.
09-07-2008, 12:55 PM
y2kbos

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

It's a bug called impartiality. I can't get it off of me :D

Check TechReport, Legitreviews, Anandtech and many more for 4870X2 Pwning GTX 280 SLI.

Perkam

Sometimes they are ahead, sometimes they are not.The race is long.
09-10-2008, 10:49 PM
dinos22

has anyone read the follow up review over at Driverheaven with Skulltrail and tripple SLI GTX280 vs 4870X2 Xfire

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews....d=609&pageid=1

seems like ATI setup gets beaten in some tests and smashed in others here

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Test System

2x ATI Reference Radeon HD 4870 X2 - 2gb
3x XFX GeForce GTX 280 XXX - 1gb
Dell 3007WFP 30 inch monitor
Skulltrail D5400XS motherboard - 1140 bios
8GB of Crucial FB DDR2 @ 800mhz (4x2GB)
2x Intel QX9775 Engineering Samples (@ 4.4 Ghz – 11x400, 1.475 volts)
2x Corsair Nautilus Watercoolers with modded underside 220mm fans
Corsair 1000w PSU
LG 16x DVD Burner
4x WD Raptor Hard Drives (OS/Games on RAID 0 Drives)
1x Samsung Spinpoint
AS5 Thermal Compound
Windows Vista Ultimate 64Bit + SP1
Forceware Release 179.83
Catalyst 8.8.4 beta for X2
DirectX 9.0c/DirectX 10
Call Of Duty 4 (DX9)
Grid (DX9)
Assassins Creed (DX10)
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 (DX9)
Lost Planet Colonies (DX10)
Half-Life 2: Ep2 (DX9)
World In Conflict (DX10)
Crysis (DX10)
Oblivion (DX9)

'

very confusing reading all these different reviews and everyone's got something different to say lol
09-18-2008, 10:14 PM
Shalamay

Hello all, I have a quick and dumb question for you as I know just about nothing about ATI stuff. I just installed my 4870x2 on vista 64 with cat 8.9. Do I need to do anything to make it work in crossfire (I don't even know how to check to see if its in crossfire)? I scored 18,652 on 3dmark06 with a E8500 at 3.8, does that seem ok. Sorry for the noob questions and thank you for any help.

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